Jack, I have the index book. I don't see any in Athens. How about providing the details from 1850, such as ages and place of birth? Also, if you know of some unusual spelling variants. . . . Peggy On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Scott, John (IT) <[email protected]>wrote: > If anyone has access to the 1855 state census for Athens I would be > interested in seeing info on John, Elizabeth and Nicholas Schermerhorn - > they are present in 1850 at Athens as a group of siblings. probably in > the brick yards as the Schermerhorns were brick makers going far back at > the Rev War. > > I am wondering if this is the Elizabeth who married Harlan Weed over in > Hudson. > > Jack > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If anyone has access to the 1855 state census for Athens I would be interested in seeing info on John, Elizabeth and Nicholas Schermerhorn - they are present in 1850 at Athens as a group of siblings. probably in the brick yards as the Schermerhorns were brick makers going far back at the Rev War. I am wondering if this is the Elizabeth who married Harlan Weed over in Hudson. Jack

Thank you Sylvia for your dedication - what a vastly superior site over some of our sister counties. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:07 PM To: Greene County List Subject: [NYGREENE] New material on the Greene Co website Finally I have uploaded new material to the website. Took forever, it seems, to get things formatted. However, there is quite a bit of information for folks to look at. Enjoy! Sylvia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Finally I have uploaded new material to the website. Took forever, it seems, to get things formatted. However, there is quite a bit of information for folks to look at. Enjoy! Sylvia

Sylvia Hasenkopf wrote: > Finally I have uploaded new material to the website. Took forever, it seems, to get things formatted. However, there is quite a bit of information for folks to look at. Enjoy! > > Sylvia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 1/2/2009 1:10 PM > > Dear Sylvia, thanks for the update notice, but, could you please attach the url for the website with your signature?..pretty please? i have too many to remember.. Happy New Year, Lynda

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Thanx Sylvia !! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Gravestones for the Zion Lutheran Church and the TrinityEpiscopal Church @ Athens, NY members John, the vast majority of cemeteries in Greene County are non-denominational. I can only think of three cemeteries in the county that are attached to a church, in fact. In addition, the greene co website has about 90% of all cemeteries in Greene County online. Check it out: www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, John (IT)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: [NYGREENE] Gravestones for the Zion Lutheran Church and the TrinityEpiscopal Church @ Athens, NY members > > Are their yards for these churches - are their gravestones recorded > somewhere ????are they accessible ... > > jack > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, the vast majority of cemeteries in Greene County are non-denominational. I can only think of three cemeteries in the county that are attached to a church, in fact. In addition, the greene co website has about 90% of all cemeteries in Greene County online. Check it out: www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, John (IT)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: [NYGREENE] Gravestones for the Zion Lutheran Church and the TrinityEpiscopal Church @ Athens, NY members > > Are their yards for these churches - are their gravestones recorded > somewhere ????are they accessible ... > > jack > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are their yards for these churches - are their gravestones recorded somewhere ????are they accessible ... jack

Can anyone help me find any information on my Great Grandparents? My Grandmother, Elizabeth Hallock was born in Coxsackie 2/29/1896 which I confirmed with the city clerk (Bambi). I am looking for Luther and Elizabeth (Betty) Hallock (Maiden name Matice) Luther is shown the the birth record book as being born in 1861 and Betty in 1871. No name was listed for their daughter. I can only find a Luther and Ida in the census records so any help is appreciated. Bill Smyth La Habra, CA 90631 Phone: 562-266-1990 Fax: 562-266-1991

Excellent Sylvia - oy ! John and Hannah ??? That's a new one. Are the Schermerhorn girl marriages available ???? To answer your question - John Roberts and Margaret Magdalena Schermerhorn are in the 1855 thru 1870 NY state and federal census and in all cases John Robberts is born in French speaking Canada. He was probably a son of the many boatman plowing the waves of the Hudson with a Schermerhorn at the helm. Henry and Polly van Valkenburgh - could he have been John Henry Schermerhorn ? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - Roberts/Schermerhorn John, here's what's in the Zion Lutheran Church records 1790 - `850 - males only: Jacob Schermerhorn and Catharina, parents, Maria, child, b. 2.24, bap. 3.8.1790, sponsors: Caspar V. Husen and Maria, his wife William Schermerhorn and Mary Van Hoesen, Margaret, b. 10.17. bap. 11.9.1794, sponsors: Jacob G. Van Hoesen, and Elis. his wife John Schermerhorn and Hendrikje, parents, John, child, b. 2.3, bap. 6.7.1801, sponsors: Johannes Out and Elisabeth Henry Shermehorn and Maria, parents, Hilletje, child, b. 10.13., bap. 10.24.1802, sponsors: Parents John Schermerhorn and Hannah, parents, Jane, child, b. 12.18.1803, sponsors; Parents Henry Schermerhorn and Catherine, parents, Hetty, child, b. 12.5.1804, bap. 1.13.1805, sponsors: parents Henry Schermerhorn and mary, parents, John, child, b. 9.16.1805, bap. 2.10.1806, sponsors: Parents That's it in baptisms until 1850 Marriages Athens Zion Lutheran: 12.9.1794 - Henry Schermerhorn and Polly Van Valkenburg That's it. To my experience the Schermerhorns were not Lutherans. Originally Reformed Dutch. How do you know that John was born in French speaking Canada? Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, John (IT)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - Roberts/Schermerhorn > > Dear Sylvia - thank you for the extraction. The date and place are > indeed a real victory to me. > > I would be interested in any other Schermerhorns or Roberts b.m.d. at > the Zion Lutheran Kirk from 1790 - 1850 if any of these records might > exist. If not too much trouble. > > I don't think that John Schermerhorn or his wife probably Maria are > buried in Athens. > > In April 15,1812 Magadalene was baptized by the minister at the Trinity > Episcopal Church in Athens - the birth year of Magdalene Roberts is 1812 > and her birthplace is Athens. > > The only John Schermerhorn seems to be the one who married Henrietta Van > Hosen and had John and Maria in 1799/1800 at Athens but seems to have > had no more. I cant tell how long he associated with the Episcopal > Church ( if that is him and it seems to be him). The minister of the > Episcopal Church preached the sermon at the death of Mr. Schermerhord of > Athens at Hudson in 1816 - was this John ? We might never know unless it > was in a newspaper. > > John Roberts was born in French speaking Canada in 1810 - that a John > Roberts in 1820 is living 3 houses from John Schermerhorn @ Athens - > probably father of Magdalena that is interesting to me. I would ASSUME > that John Roberts was probably catholic and converted to marry > Magdalene. > > With kind regards, > > Jack Scott > Hanover,Pa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 11:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - > Roberts/Schermerhorn > > Hello John, yes indeed, in the Zion Lutheran Church in Athens records, > the > marriage is listed: > John Robberts and Magdalene Schermerhorn, married 3.17.1836, witnesses: > Peter Loving and Eliza Polley > > I do not see that this couple, or ineed any Roberts family member had > children baptised in this church. > > However, in the Coxsackie Reformed Church I see a James Roberts and > Dorty > Hoogteling who baptize a son John , b. 6.6.1808, in 1808. > > They also baptized: > Edward, b. 10.15.1803, in 1803 > Richard, b. 9.1.1805, on 11.1.1805, > Catherine, b. 4.16.1811, bap in 1811, > Peter, b. 7.7.1813, on 8.28.1813, > James, b. 3.28.1816, on 6.22.1816, > Storm Teunis, b. 1.1.1819, bap. 6.19.1819 > Jane, b. 6.25.1821, bap. 10.28.1821 > > This couple was married in the Coxsackie, RDC 5.11.1803. Both were from > Coxsackie. > > I see a John Robert and Phebe Bronk getting married 10.2.1830 in the > Coxsackie RDC. He was from Coxsackie, she from New Baltimore. > > The 1855 census shows: > In New Baltimore: > James Roberts, farmer, aged 48, 48 yrs in New Baltimore, b. Greene Co, > wife > Gertrude, aged 43, b. Albany Co, 24 yrs in New Baltimore, children: > John, > farmer 20, Abram, farmer 19, Adaline 13, Mary 11, Reuben 9, Augustus 7 > > In New Baltimore: > James Robert Jr (this may mean he was the younger of two James Roberts > in > the area, not necessarily father and son James), carpenter, aged 39, b. > Greene County, 39 yrs in New Baltimore, Sarah J, wife, aged 34, b. > Albany > Co, 15 yrs in New Baltimore, children: Susan Mary 14, Storm T. 10, James > H. > 6, Wingfield 4, Theresa 1, Dorothy, mother, aged 76, b. Greene Co, 76 > yrs in > New Baltimore > > In Coxsackie: > John Roberts, carpenter, aged 46, b. Greene Co, 46 yrs in Coxsackie, > Phoebe, wife, aged 42, b. Greene Co, 42 yrs in Coxsackie, children: > Elizabeth 16, Peter, carpenter 18, Sarah J. 13, Mary C 10, Benjamin 8, > Willard 6, James H. 4 > > There are other Roberts listed as well: > Tunis aged 36 and family in New Baltimore > Richard, aged 22, and Phebe A. aged 23, living with Benjamin > Houghtaling, > aged 29 > Peter, aged 43 and family in New Baltimore > Peter J. aged 24 living with John W. Wolf aged 39 > Isaiah, aged 53 and family in New Baltimore > Ezekiel, aged 39 and family in Cairo > Eliza, a widow, aged 65 and family in Cairo > Edward, aged 51 and family in New Baltimore > Edward, aged 28, and mother Sarah, aged 57 and brother Elisha, aged 18 > in > Coxsackie > > The 1850 census shows a number of Roberts families living side by side: > 685 759 Roberts Elias 71 farmer $1,500 NY > Roberts Sarah 58 NY > Roberts Elias 12 NY > Roberts Edward 24 laborer NY > Roberts Ellen 24 NY > Roberts Judson 3 NY > Roberts Elizabeth 3 NY > 686 760 Roberts Dolly 72 female laborer NY > Roberts Tunis 30 laborer NY > Roberts Jane 22 NY > Roberts Samuel P. 2 NY > Roberts Mary L. 2 m NY > 687 761 Roberts Edward 42 shoemaker $600 NY > Roberts Phebe 41 NY > Roberts Dolly M. 17 NY > Roberts Sara J. 12 NY > Roberts Jacob 9 NY > Roberts Margaret E. 8 NY > Roberts Charles 2 NY > Gadwin ? Peter 64 cooper NY > Houghtaling H. P. 26 shoemaker NY > 688 762 Roberts Isaih 44 farmer NY > Roberts Maria 37 NY > Roberts Henry 14 laborer NY > Roberts Elizabeth A. 13 NY > 689 763 Roberts James 39 carpenter $1,200 NY page 34 8/16/1850 > Roberts Sarah 38 NY > Roberts Susan M. 8 NY > Roberts Storham 4 NY > Roberts James H. 2 NY > Youmans Caroline 16 NY > 690 764 Roberts Peter 36 farmer $1,200 NY > Roberts Susan 33 NY > Roberts Mary J. 7 NY > Roberts Henryetta 5 NY > Roberts Elizabeth A. 2 NY > 716 791 Roberts John 42 farmer NY > Roberts Phebe 37 NY > Roberts Harriet 19 NY > Roberts Peter 13 NY > Roberts Elizabeth A. 10 NY > Roberts Sarah J. 7 NY > Roberts Mary C. 5 NY > Roberts Benjamin 2 NY > 649 720 Roberts James 42 laborer $200 NY > Roberts Gitty A. 40 NY > Roberts Adaline 8 NY > Roberts Mary 7 NY > Roberts Reuben 5 NY > Roberts Silvenus 2 female NY > > The Greene Co website shows a number of Roberts in the New > Baltimore/Coxsackie area www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > See > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/roberts_family_cemetery.htm > Therre are 187 "hits" meaning pages where the Roberts name shows up on > the > website. > > Good luck! > > Sylvia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott, John (IT)" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:16 AM > Subject: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - Roberts/Schermerhorn > > >> >> Greene Countyites .... a good new year to you. >> >> A researcher who has some access the records compiled by Kelly has >> indicated that in 1836 there was a marriage at this church of John >> Roberts and Magdalena Schemerhorn. >> >> Can anyone offer the specific record ?? I am very interested in this >> record - this appears to be my gr-gr-gr grandparents. >> >> Also, in Athens in the 1820 census there appears John Roberts with a >> son old enough to be the John Roberts father. I am now making a >> tentative link from father to son. >> >> There is a birth in Athens mentioned in the Trinity Episcopal Church > of >> Magdalena Schermerhorn Apr 15 ,1812 - I think this is my "Margaret >> Magdalena Schermerhorn b. Athens, NY ca. 1812 as daughter of John >> Schermerhorn and Maria/Mary as stated on her death certificate. >> >> Any helps with b.m.d in Athens of the Roberts family and the >> Schermerhorns still present is of interest. >> >> It appears to me that Magdalena Schermerhorn lived or was present in >> Athens from 1812 to 1836 and probably till 1850 - she may have gone > over >> to Hudson. >> >> The only other John Schermerhorn known to me in this time frame was > abt >> 1800 when two children were born to him and Hetty Van Hosen - namely >> John and Maria. >> >> Jack >> Hanover,Pa >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.thedailymail.net/articles/2008/12/28/news/news1.txt "Catskill Village" hits shelves this spring Book offers an in-depth pictorial history of the village By Colin DeVries CATSKILL -- The much anticipated follow-up to the popular bicentennial chronicle, "Village: A Bicentennial Celebration of the Village of Catskill," will be hitting bookstore shelves everywhere this spring. "Catskill Village," a profound pictorial history of a critical Hudson River community, provides readers with a visual of a rustic Catskill community decades before the turn of the 20th century. The 127-plus-page pictorial account is part of The Images of America series by Arcadia Publishing and will join other locally relevant books in the series, such as "Around Greene County and the Catskills," co-authored by the late Greene County Historian Raymond Beecher, and "Catskill Hotels" by Irwin Richman. "Catskill Village" is the product of Richard Philp, town and village historian of Catskill, and was done in response to the wild popularity of the 2006 account, "Village: A Bicentennial Celebration of the Village of Catskill (1806-2006)." According to Philp, $10,000 worth of "Village" books were sold in just three days during the summer of 2006 from a card table set up outside of the Heart of Catskill Association office on Main Street. After that kind of success the market for Catskill history was evident. And Philp got a contract. About a year ago, Philp says, he got the contract to put together "Catskill Village," and now the final product is ready for publication -- well, almost ready. Once Philp finishes putting red pen to paper on the galley proofs the book will be ready for production. It will be released just in time for the 400th anniversary celebration of Henry Hudson's voyage up the river that bears his name. To put together the pictorial chronicle, Philp said he scanned about 800 historic photographs of the village of Catskill from private collections of current Catskill residents. Among those collections: the Patrick Walsh collection, the Art Hamm collection, the Robert Carl collection, Philp's own personal collection, and others. A total of 204 photos have been used for the book, accompanied by 20,000 of Philp's words. The book is categorized by neighborhoods, celebrations, working shots, accommodations, disastrous mishaps, and others. The oldest photo included in the book is the well-known 1846 portrait of Thomas Cole. Most of the photos, Philp says, are from 1890 and 1920, all in their original black and white brilliance. "It's an enormous relief to having this thing finally finished," said Philp. "A book like this has not been done since ... 'Dear Old Greene County' ... This is a big deal, this book." "Dear Old Greene County," by F. A. Gallt, was published in 1915 and is one of the most thorough accounts of Greene County municipalities to date. "Catskill Village" will be available at Barnes and Noble, Borders, Brentano's Books, and online at www.arcadiapublishing.com in the spring. It will also be available at various shops in Catskill. Philp says a book like this provides a golden opportunity for Catskill to show others around the country, and the world, just how wonderfully rich the riverfront community of Catskill really is. Philp's next goal is [to] find financial backing to bring back the successful publication, "Village: A Bicentennial Celebration of the Village of Catskill."

Barbara, your story was priceless. Yes it is easy to get lost on those roads. I grew up outside of Kingston but we were always traveling all over Greene County and I too can get lost up there when we go back to do research. Have a Happy New Years. Carolg -------------- Original message -------------- From: Barbara de Mare <[email protected]> > Unfortunately, I did not save the recent thread on Haines Falls and a Park, the > name of which I don't recall. While inextricably lost in Green County on > Christmas Day, I ended up in Haines Falls and saw a sign to the Park--I > recognized the name when I saw it. I don't think I missed any of the Catskill > Park sections of Green County. It was so bad I just looked for the humor while > eating my potato chips for Christmas dinner, being way to late to make dinner at > Mom's after over three hours roaming the mountain roads of the county. The good > part was seeing all the places I red about on this site. > > If anyone is interested in the whole story, read my blog. > > > Barbara > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Attorney, historian, genealogist, grandmother > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > > (201) 567-9440 office > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

John, here's what's in the Zion Lutheran Church records 1790 - `850 - males only: Jacob Schermerhorn and Catharina, parents, Maria, child, b. 2.24, bap. 3.8.1790, sponsors: Caspar V. Husen and Maria, his wife William Schermerhorn and Mary Van Hoesen, Margaret, b. 10.17. bap. 11.9.1794, sponsors: Jacob G. Van Hoesen, and Elis. his wife John Schermerhorn and Hendrikje, parents, John, child, b. 2.3, bap. 6.7.1801, sponsors: Johannes Out and Elisabeth Henry Shermehorn and Maria, parents, Hilletje, child, b. 10.13., bap. 10.24.1802, sponsors: Parents John Schermerhorn and Hannah, parents, Jane, child, b. 12.18.1803, sponsors; Parents Henry Schermerhorn and Catherine, parents, Hetty, child, b. 12.5.1804, bap. 1.13.1805, sponsors: parents Henry Schermerhorn and mary, parents, John, child, b. 9.16.1805, bap. 2.10.1806, sponsors: Parents That's it in baptisms until 1850 Marriages Athens Zion Lutheran: 12.9.1794 - Henry Schermerhorn and Polly Van Valkenburg That's it. To my experience the Schermerhorns were not Lutherans. Originally Reformed Dutch. How do you know that John was born in French speaking Canada? Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, John (IT)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - Roberts/Schermerhorn > > Dear Sylvia - thank you for the extraction. The date and place are > indeed a real victory to me. > > I would be interested in any other Schermerhorns or Roberts b.m.d. at > the Zion Lutheran Kirk from 1790 - 1850 if any of these records might > exist. If not too much trouble. > > I don't think that John Schermerhorn or his wife probably Maria are > buried in Athens. > > In April 15,1812 Magadalene was baptized by the minister at the Trinity > Episcopal Church in Athens - the birth year of Magdalene Roberts is 1812 > and her birthplace is Athens. > > The only John Schermerhorn seems to be the one who married Henrietta Van > Hosen and had John and Maria in 1799/1800 at Athens but seems to have > had no more. I cant tell how long he associated with the Episcopal > Church ( if that is him and it seems to be him). The minister of the > Episcopal Church preached the sermon at the death of Mr. Schermerhord of > Athens at Hudson in 1816 - was this John ? We might never know unless it > was in a newspaper. > > John Roberts was born in French speaking Canada in 1810 - that a John > Roberts in 1820 is living 3 houses from John Schermerhorn @ Athens - > probably father of Magdalena that is interesting to me. I would ASSUME > that John Roberts was probably catholic and converted to marry > Magdalene. > > With kind regards, > > Jack Scott > Hanover,Pa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 11:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - > Roberts/Schermerhorn > > Hello John, yes indeed, in the Zion Lutheran Church in Athens records, > the > marriage is listed: > John Robberts and Magdalene Schermerhorn, married 3.17.1836, witnesses: > Peter Loving and Eliza Polley > > I do not see that this couple, or ineed any Roberts family member had > children baptised in this church. > > However, in the Coxsackie Reformed Church I see a James Roberts and > Dorty > Hoogteling who baptize a son John , b. 6.6.1808, in 1808. > > They also baptized: > Edward, b. 10.15.1803, in 1803 > Richard, b. 9.1.1805, on 11.1.1805, > Catherine, b. 4.16.1811, bap in 1811, > Peter, b. 7.7.1813, on 8.28.1813, > James, b. 3.28.1816, on 6.22.1816, > Storm Teunis, b. 1.1.1819, bap. 6.19.1819 > Jane, b. 6.25.1821, bap. 10.28.1821 > > This couple was married in the Coxsackie, RDC 5.11.1803. Both were from > Coxsackie. > > I see a John Robert and Phebe Bronk getting married 10.2.1830 in the > Coxsackie RDC. He was from Coxsackie, she from New Baltimore. > > The 1855 census shows: > In New Baltimore: > James Roberts, farmer, aged 48, 48 yrs in New Baltimore, b. Greene Co, > wife > Gertrude, aged 43, b. Albany Co, 24 yrs in New Baltimore, children: > John, > farmer 20, Abram, farmer 19, Adaline 13, Mary 11, Reuben 9, Augustus 7 > > In New Baltimore: > James Robert Jr (this may mean he was the younger of two James Roberts > in > the area, not necessarily father and son James), carpenter, aged 39, b. > Greene County, 39 yrs in New Baltimore, Sarah J, wife, aged 34, b. > Albany > Co, 15 yrs in New Baltimore, children: Susan Mary 14, Storm T. 10, James > H. > 6, Wingfield 4, Theresa 1, Dorothy, mother, aged 76, b. Greene Co, 76 > yrs in > New Baltimore > > In Coxsackie: > John Roberts, carpenter, aged 46, b. Greene Co, 46 yrs in Coxsackie, > Phoebe, wife, aged 42, b. Greene Co, 42 yrs in Coxsackie, children: > Elizabeth 16, Peter, carpenter 18, Sarah J. 13, Mary C 10, Benjamin 8, > Willard 6, James H. 4 > > There are other Roberts listed as well: > Tunis aged 36 and family in New Baltimore > Richard, aged 22, and Phebe A. aged 23, living with Benjamin > Houghtaling, > aged 29 > Peter, aged 43 and family in New Baltimore > Peter J. aged 24 living with John W. Wolf aged 39 > Isaiah, aged 53 and family in New Baltimore > Ezekiel, aged 39 and family in Cairo > Eliza, a widow, aged 65 and family in Cairo > Edward, aged 51 and family in New Baltimore > Edward, aged 28, and mother Sarah, aged 57 and brother Elisha, aged 18 > in > Coxsackie > > The 1850 census shows a number of Roberts families living side by side: > 685 759 Roberts Elias 71 farmer $1,500 NY > Roberts Sarah 58 NY > Roberts Elias 12 NY > Roberts Edward 24 laborer NY > Roberts Ellen 24 NY > Roberts Judson 3 NY > Roberts Elizabeth 3 NY > 686 760 Roberts Dolly 72 female laborer NY > Roberts Tunis 30 laborer NY > Roberts Jane 22 NY > Roberts Samuel P. 2 NY > Roberts Mary L. 2 m NY > 687 761 Roberts Edward 42 shoemaker $600 NY > Roberts Phebe 41 NY > Roberts Dolly M. 17 NY > Roberts Sara J. 12 NY > Roberts Jacob 9 NY > Roberts Margaret E. 8 NY > Roberts Charles 2 NY > Gadwin ? Peter 64 cooper NY > Houghtaling H. P. 26 shoemaker NY > 688 762 Roberts Isaih 44 farmer NY > Roberts Maria 37 NY > Roberts Henry 14 laborer NY > Roberts Elizabeth A. 13 NY > 689 763 Roberts James 39 carpenter $1,200 NY page 34 8/16/1850 > Roberts Sarah 38 NY > Roberts Susan M. 8 NY > Roberts Storham 4 NY > Roberts James H. 2 NY > Youmans Caroline 16 NY > 690 764 Roberts Peter 36 farmer $1,200 NY > Roberts Susan 33 NY > Roberts Mary J. 7 NY > Roberts Henryetta 5 NY > Roberts Elizabeth A. 2 NY > 716 791 Roberts John 42 farmer NY > Roberts Phebe 37 NY > Roberts Harriet 19 NY > Roberts Peter 13 NY > Roberts Elizabeth A. 10 NY > Roberts Sarah J. 7 NY > Roberts Mary C. 5 NY > Roberts Benjamin 2 NY > 649 720 Roberts James 42 laborer $200 NY > Roberts Gitty A. 40 NY > Roberts Adaline 8 NY > Roberts Mary 7 NY > Roberts Reuben 5 NY > Roberts Silvenus 2 female NY > > The Greene Co website shows a number of Roberts in the New > Baltimore/Coxsackie area www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 > > See > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/roberts_family_cemetery.htm > Therre are 187 "hits" meaning pages where the Roberts name shows up on > the > website. > > Good luck! > > Sylvia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott, John (IT)" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:16 AM > Subject: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - Roberts/Schermerhorn > > >> >> Greene Countyites .... a good new year to you. >> >> A researcher who has some access the records compiled by Kelly has >> indicated that in 1836 there was a marriage at this church of John >> Roberts and Magdalena Schemerhorn. >> >> Can anyone offer the specific record ?? I am very interested in this >> record - this appears to be my gr-gr-gr grandparents. >> >> Also, in Athens in the 1820 census there appears John Roberts with a >> son old enough to be the John Roberts father. I am now making a >> tentative link from father to son. >> >> There is a birth in Athens mentioned in the Trinity Episcopal Church > of >> Magdalena Schermerhorn Apr 15 ,1812 - I think this is my "Margaret >> Magdalena Schermerhorn b. Athens, NY ca. 1812 as daughter of John >> Schermerhorn and Maria/Mary as stated on her death certificate. >> >> Any helps with b.m.d in Athens of the Roberts family and the >> Schermerhorns still present is of interest. >> >> It appears to me that Magdalena Schermerhorn lived or was present in >> Athens from 1812 to 1836 and probably till 1850 - she may have gone > over >> to Hudson. >> >> The only other John Schermerhorn known to me in this time frame was > abt >> 1800 when two children were born to him and Hetty Van Hosen - namely >> John and Maria. >> >> Jack >> Hanover,Pa >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Sylvia - thank you for the extraction. The date and place are indeed a real victory to me. I would be interested in any other Schermerhorns or Roberts b.m.d. at the Zion Lutheran Kirk from 1790 - 1850 if any of these records might exist. If not too much trouble. I don't think that John Schermerhorn or his wife probably Maria are buried in Athens. In April 15,1812 Magadalene was baptized by the minister at the Trinity Episcopal Church in Athens - the birth year of Magdalene Roberts is 1812 and her birthplace is Athens. The only John Schermerhorn seems to be the one who married Henrietta Van Hosen and had John and Maria in 1799/1800 at Athens but seems to have had no more. I cant tell how long he associated with the Episcopal Church ( if that is him and it seems to be him). The minister of the Episcopal Church preached the sermon at the death of Mr. Schermerhord of Athens at Hudson in 1816 - was this John ? We might never know unless it was in a newspaper. John Roberts was born in French speaking Canada in 1810 - that a John Roberts in 1820 is living 3 houses from John Schermerhorn @ Athens - probably father of Magdalena that is interesting to me. I would ASSUME that John Roberts was probably catholic and converted to marry Magdalene. With kind regards, Jack Scott Hanover,Pa -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 11:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - Roberts/Schermerhorn Hello John, yes indeed, in the Zion Lutheran Church in Athens records, the marriage is listed: John Robberts and Magdalene Schermerhorn, married 3.17.1836, witnesses: Peter Loving and Eliza Polley I do not see that this couple, or ineed any Roberts family member had children baptised in this church. However, in the Coxsackie Reformed Church I see a James Roberts and Dorty Hoogteling who baptize a son John , b. 6.6.1808, in 1808. They also baptized: Edward, b. 10.15.1803, in 1803 Richard, b. 9.1.1805, on 11.1.1805, Catherine, b. 4.16.1811, bap in 1811, Peter, b. 7.7.1813, on 8.28.1813, James, b. 3.28.1816, on 6.22.1816, Storm Teunis, b. 1.1.1819, bap. 6.19.1819 Jane, b. 6.25.1821, bap. 10.28.1821 This couple was married in the Coxsackie, RDC 5.11.1803. Both were from Coxsackie. I see a John Robert and Phebe Bronk getting married 10.2.1830 in the Coxsackie RDC. He was from Coxsackie, she from New Baltimore. The 1855 census shows: In New Baltimore: James Roberts, farmer, aged 48, 48 yrs in New Baltimore, b. Greene Co, wife Gertrude, aged 43, b. Albany Co, 24 yrs in New Baltimore, children: John, farmer 20, Abram, farmer 19, Adaline 13, Mary 11, Reuben 9, Augustus 7 In New Baltimore: James Robert Jr (this may mean he was the younger of two James Roberts in the area, not necessarily father and son James), carpenter, aged 39, b. Greene County, 39 yrs in New Baltimore, Sarah J, wife, aged 34, b. Albany Co, 15 yrs in New Baltimore, children: Susan Mary 14, Storm T. 10, James H. 6, Wingfield 4, Theresa 1, Dorothy, mother, aged 76, b. Greene Co, 76 yrs in New Baltimore In Coxsackie: John Roberts, carpenter, aged 46, b. Greene Co, 46 yrs in Coxsackie, Phoebe, wife, aged 42, b. Greene Co, 42 yrs in Coxsackie, children: Elizabeth 16, Peter, carpenter 18, Sarah J. 13, Mary C 10, Benjamin 8, Willard 6, James H. 4 There are other Roberts listed as well: Tunis aged 36 and family in New Baltimore Richard, aged 22, and Phebe A. aged 23, living with Benjamin Houghtaling, aged 29 Peter, aged 43 and family in New Baltimore Peter J. aged 24 living with John W. Wolf aged 39 Isaiah, aged 53 and family in New Baltimore Ezekiel, aged 39 and family in Cairo Eliza, a widow, aged 65 and family in Cairo Edward, aged 51 and family in New Baltimore Edward, aged 28, and mother Sarah, aged 57 and brother Elisha, aged 18 in Coxsackie The 1850 census shows a number of Roberts families living side by side: 685 759 Roberts Elias 71 farmer $1,500 NY Roberts Sarah 58 NY Roberts Elias 12 NY Roberts Edward 24 laborer NY Roberts Ellen 24 NY Roberts Judson 3 NY Roberts Elizabeth 3 NY 686 760 Roberts Dolly 72 female laborer NY Roberts Tunis 30 laborer NY Roberts Jane 22 NY Roberts Samuel P. 2 NY Roberts Mary L. 2 m NY 687 761 Roberts Edward 42 shoemaker $600 NY Roberts Phebe 41 NY Roberts Dolly M. 17 NY Roberts Sara J. 12 NY Roberts Jacob 9 NY Roberts Margaret E. 8 NY Roberts Charles 2 NY Gadwin ? Peter 64 cooper NY Houghtaling H. P. 26 shoemaker NY 688 762 Roberts Isaih 44 farmer NY Roberts Maria 37 NY Roberts Henry 14 laborer NY Roberts Elizabeth A. 13 NY 689 763 Roberts James 39 carpenter $1,200 NY page 34 8/16/1850 Roberts Sarah 38 NY Roberts Susan M. 8 NY Roberts Storham 4 NY Roberts James H. 2 NY Youmans Caroline 16 NY 690 764 Roberts Peter 36 farmer $1,200 NY Roberts Susan 33 NY Roberts Mary J. 7 NY Roberts Henryetta 5 NY Roberts Elizabeth A. 2 NY 716 791 Roberts John 42 farmer NY Roberts Phebe 37 NY Roberts Harriet 19 NY Roberts Peter 13 NY Roberts Elizabeth A. 10 NY Roberts Sarah J. 7 NY Roberts Mary C. 5 NY Roberts Benjamin 2 NY 649 720 Roberts James 42 laborer $200 NY Roberts Gitty A. 40 NY Roberts Adaline 8 NY Roberts Mary 7 NY Roberts Reuben 5 NY Roberts Silvenus 2 female NY The Greene Co website shows a number of Roberts in the New Baltimore/Coxsackie area www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 See http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/roberts_family_cemetery.htm Therre are 187 "hits" meaning pages where the Roberts name shows up on the website. Good luck! Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, John (IT)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - Roberts/Schermerhorn > > Greene Countyites .... a good new year to you. > > A researcher who has some access the records compiled by Kelly has > indicated that in 1836 there was a marriage at this church of John > Roberts and Magdalena Schemerhorn. > > Can anyone offer the specific record ?? I am very interested in this > record - this appears to be my gr-gr-gr grandparents. > > Also, in Athens in the 1820 census there appears John Roberts with a > son old enough to be the John Roberts father. I am now making a > tentative link from father to son. > > There is a birth in Athens mentioned in the Trinity Episcopal Church of > Magdalena Schermerhorn Apr 15 ,1812 - I think this is my "Margaret > Magdalena Schermerhorn b. Athens, NY ca. 1812 as daughter of John > Schermerhorn and Maria/Mary as stated on her death certificate. > > Any helps with b.m.d in Athens of the Roberts family and the > Schermerhorns still present is of interest. > > It appears to me that Magdalena Schermerhorn lived or was present in > Athens from 1812 to 1836 and probably till 1850 - she may have gone over > to Hudson. > > The only other John Schermerhorn known to me in this time frame was abt > 1800 when two children were born to him and Hetty Van Hosen - namely > John and Maria. > > Jack > Hanover,Pa > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello John, yes indeed, in the Zion Lutheran Church in Athens records, the marriage is listed: John Robberts and Magdalene Schermerhorn, married 3.17.1836, witnesses: Peter Loving and Eliza Polley I do not see that this couple, or ineed any Roberts family member had children baptised in this church. However, in the Coxsackie Reformed Church I see a James Roberts and Dorty Hoogteling who baptize a son John , b. 6.6.1808, in 1808. They also baptized: Edward, b. 10.15.1803, in 1803 Richard, b. 9.1.1805, on 11.1.1805, Catherine, b. 4.16.1811, bap in 1811, Peter, b. 7.7.1813, on 8.28.1813, James, b. 3.28.1816, on 6.22.1816, Storm Teunis, b. 1.1.1819, bap. 6.19.1819 Jane, b. 6.25.1821, bap. 10.28.1821 This couple was married in the Coxsackie, RDC 5.11.1803. Both were from Coxsackie. I see a John Robert and Phebe Bronk getting married 10.2.1830 in the Coxsackie RDC. He was from Coxsackie, she from New Baltimore. The 1855 census shows: In New Baltimore: James Roberts, farmer, aged 48, 48 yrs in New Baltimore, b. Greene Co, wife Gertrude, aged 43, b. Albany Co, 24 yrs in New Baltimore, children: John, farmer 20, Abram, farmer 19, Adaline 13, Mary 11, Reuben 9, Augustus 7 In New Baltimore: James Robert Jr (this may mean he was the younger of two James Roberts in the area, not necessarily father and son James), carpenter, aged 39, b. Greene County, 39 yrs in New Baltimore, Sarah J, wife, aged 34, b. Albany Co, 15 yrs in New Baltimore, children: Susan Mary 14, Storm T. 10, James H. 6, Wingfield 4, Theresa 1, Dorothy, mother, aged 76, b. Greene Co, 76 yrs in New Baltimore In Coxsackie: John Roberts, carpenter, aged 46, b. Greene Co, 46 yrs in Coxsackie, Phoebe, wife, aged 42, b. Greene Co, 42 yrs in Coxsackie, children: Elizabeth 16, Peter, carpenter 18, Sarah J. 13, Mary C 10, Benjamin 8, Willard 6, James H. 4 There are other Roberts listed as well: Tunis aged 36 and family in New Baltimore Richard, aged 22, and Phebe A. aged 23, living with Benjamin Houghtaling, aged 29 Peter, aged 43 and family in New Baltimore Peter J. aged 24 living with John W. Wolf aged 39 Isaiah, aged 53 and family in New Baltimore Ezekiel, aged 39 and family in Cairo Eliza, a widow, aged 65 and family in Cairo Edward, aged 51 and family in New Baltimore Edward, aged 28, and mother Sarah, aged 57 and brother Elisha, aged 18 in Coxsackie The 1850 census shows a number of Roberts families living side by side: 685 759 Roberts Elias 71 farmer $1,500 NY Roberts Sarah 58 NY Roberts Elias 12 NY Roberts Edward 24 laborer NY Roberts Ellen 24 NY Roberts Judson 3 NY Roberts Elizabeth 3 NY 686 760 Roberts Dolly 72 female laborer NY Roberts Tunis 30 laborer NY Roberts Jane 22 NY Roberts Samuel P. 2 NY Roberts Mary L. 2 m NY 687 761 Roberts Edward 42 shoemaker $600 NY Roberts Phebe 41 NY Roberts Dolly M. 17 NY Roberts Sara J. 12 NY Roberts Jacob 9 NY Roberts Margaret E. 8 NY Roberts Charles 2 NY Gadwin ? Peter 64 cooper NY Houghtaling H. P. 26 shoemaker NY 688 762 Roberts Isaih 44 farmer NY Roberts Maria 37 NY Roberts Henry 14 laborer NY Roberts Elizabeth A. 13 NY 689 763 Roberts James 39 carpenter $1,200 NY page 34 8/16/1850 Roberts Sarah 38 NY Roberts Susan M. 8 NY Roberts Storham 4 NY Roberts James H. 2 NY Youmans Caroline 16 NY 690 764 Roberts Peter 36 farmer $1,200 NY Roberts Susan 33 NY Roberts Mary J. 7 NY Roberts Henryetta 5 NY Roberts Elizabeth A. 2 NY 716 791 Roberts John 42 farmer NY Roberts Phebe 37 NY Roberts Harriet 19 NY Roberts Peter 13 NY Roberts Elizabeth A. 10 NY Roberts Sarah J. 7 NY Roberts Mary C. 5 NY Roberts Benjamin 2 NY 649 720 Roberts James 42 laborer $200 NY Roberts Gitty A. 40 NY Roberts Adaline 8 NY Roberts Mary 7 NY Roberts Reuben 5 NY Roberts Silvenus 2 female NY The Greene Co website shows a number of Roberts in the New Baltimore/Coxsackie area www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2 See http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/roberts_family_cemetery.htm Therre are 187 "hits" meaning pages where the Roberts name shows up on the website. Good luck! Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, John (IT)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: [NYGREENE] Athens Zion Lutheran Church - Roberts/Schermerhorn > > Greene Countyites .... a good new year to you. > > A researcher who has some access the records compiled by Kelly has > indicated that in 1836 there was a marriage at this church of John > Roberts and Magdalena Schemerhorn. > > Can anyone offer the specific record ?? I am very interested in this > record - this appears to be my gr-gr-gr grandparents. > > Also, in Athens in the 1820 census there appears John Roberts with a > son old enough to be the John Roberts father. I am now making a > tentative link from father to son. > > There is a birth in Athens mentioned in the Trinity Episcopal Church of > Magdalena Schermerhorn Apr 15 ,1812 - I think this is my "Margaret > Magdalena Schermerhorn b. Athens, NY ca. 1812 as daughter of John > Schermerhorn and Maria/Mary as stated on her death certificate. > > Any helps with b.m.d in Athens of the Roberts family and the > Schermerhorns still present is of interest. > > It appears to me that Magdalena Schermerhorn lived or was present in > Athens from 1812 to 1836 and probably till 1850 - she may have gone over > to Hudson. > > The only other John Schermerhorn known to me in this time frame was abt > 1800 when two children were born to him and Hetty Van Hosen - namely > John and Maria. > > Jack > Hanover,Pa > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greene Countyites .... a good new year to you. A researcher who has some access the records compiled by Kelly has indicated that in 1836 there was a marriage at this church of John Roberts and Magdalena Schemerhorn. Can anyone offer the specific record ?? I am very interested in this record - this appears to be my gr-gr-gr grandparents. Also, in Athens in the 1820 census there appears John Roberts with a son old enough to be the John Roberts father. I am now making a tentative link from father to son. There is a birth in Athens mentioned in the Trinity Episcopal Church of Magdalena Schermerhorn Apr 15 ,1812 - I think this is my "Margaret Magdalena Schermerhorn b. Athens, NY ca. 1812 as daughter of John Schermerhorn and Maria/Mary as stated on her death certificate. Any helps with b.m.d in Athens of the Roberts family and the Schermerhorns still present is of interest. It appears to me that Magdalena Schermerhorn lived or was present in Athens from 1812 to 1836 and probably till 1850 - she may have gone over to Hudson. The only other John Schermerhorn known to me in this time frame was abt 1800 when two children were born to him and Hetty Van Hosen - namely John and Maria. Jack Hanover,Pa

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