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    1. Re: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain
    2. Sylvia, This came from the same source as the rest I sent you (David Decker from Rootsweb World Connect) ? William DECKER Birth: b.1783 in Livingston Manor, Columbia Co., NY Death: 28Dec1867 in Grand Gorge, Delaware Co., NY Father: Leneert DECKER b: 18 Oct 1752 in Livingston Manor, Columbia Co., NY Mother: Elizabeth RANDELL b: 10 Sep 1752 in New York City, NY Marriage 1 Hepsibeth BREWSTER b: 01 Sep 1778 Leneert DECKER Birth:18 Oct 1752 in Livingston Manor, Columbia Co., NY Death: 14 Sep 1798 in Prob. Columbia Co., NY Father: Cornelis DECKER b: c. 1721 Mother: Jannetjen CONYN Marriage 1 Elizabeth RANDELL b: 10 Sep 1752 in New York City, NY Married: 02 Jul 1780 Cornelis DECKER Birth: c. 1721 Father: Jan DECKER b: c. 28 Sep 1679 in Kingston, Ulster Co., NY Mother: Tysje BOGAART b: c. 1685 Marriage 1 Jannetjen CONYN Children Leneert DECKER b: 18 Oct 1752 in Livingston Manor, Columbia Co., NY Jan DECKER Birth: c. 28 Sep 1679 in Kingston, Ulster Co., NY Father: Jacob Jans DECKER b: b. 1657 in Albany, Albany Co., NY Mother: Belytie Bastiaansse CORTREGHT b: b. 1659 in Leerdan, Holland Marriage 1 Tysje BOGAART b: c. 1685 Children Cornelis DECKER b: c. 1721 Jacob Jans DECKER Birth: b. 1657 in Albany, Albany Co., NY Marriage 1 Belytie Bastiaansse CORTREGHT b: b. 1659 in Leerdan, Holland Married: 08 Dec 1678 Children Jan DECKER b: c. 28 Sep 1679 in Kingston, Ulster Co., NY ~Ken~ -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia Hasenkopf <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 9:36 am Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain You are most welcome Lorna! I pretty well have figured out most of the Deckers up the mountain except for Tunis Decker, William Decker, married Hepzebah Brewster and a couple others. Sylvia

    01/14/2009 03:11:13
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain
    2. Sylvia Hasenkopf
    3. You are most welcome Lorna! I pretty well have figured out most of the Deckers up the mountain except for Tunis Decker, William Decker, married Hepzebah Brewster and a couple others. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorna" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain > > Thank u Sylvia, you have just given me the parents of ''Gitty'' Gertrude > Decker( 7 Dec 1809- 4 Nov 1882). She married James Judson and both were > ''deaf mutes'' according to the census and their gravestones. I couldnt > find > her father , thank u so much ! > Lorna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <[email protected]> > To: "Greene County List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:25 PM > Subject: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain > > >>I have now determined that Cornelius, John and Isaac had two other >>brothers >> who also came over to Greene Co. It appears that 5 brothers - John (b. >> 1768 >> and married Maria Brandow), Isaac (b. 1781 and married Elizabeth Deyo), >> Cornelius (b. 1778 and married Elizabeth Fowler), Derick (b. 1765 and >> married Elizabeth Sesson) and Laurens (b. 1761 and married Cornelia >> Brisee) >> came to Greene Co - Prattsville/Lexington area abt 1800. I see Gysbert >> and >> wife Catlyntje being sponsors for Laurens' son Andrew in 1800 in the >> Prattsville RDC. I have the baptisms for all these sons. There is one >> other >> son of this family, Nicholas, b. 1772 that I do not see here in Greene >> Co. >> >> There is also the family of Leendert (Leonard) Decker and Elizabeth >> Randall. >> This couple was married in the Linlithgo RDC in Columbia Co on July 2 >> 1780 >> and removed to Greene county in the early 1800's. They had 5 children >> that >> I >> have found: Elisabeth, b. 1788, Jannetje, b. 1781, William b. 1783, John, >> b. >> 1786 (never married) and Nancy b. 1791 (never married). Leendert is the >> son >> of Cornelius Decker and Jannetje Conine, bap. 11.11.1752 in Germantown >> RDC. >> >> I believe these are all the old Decker families from up the mountain. Can >> anyone elaborate on any of the children of Derick and Laurens? What I >> have >> to date is: >> Derick: married Elizabeth Sesson >> John, b. 1786 married Christine McFall >> Catalyntje, b. 1788 >> Sybil, b. 1789 >> Christina b. 1797 >> Rebecca b. 1801 >> James, b. 1803 >> Dolly, b. 1805 >> Dolly b. 1808 >> Polly, b. 1810 >> James Lawrence, b. 1813 >> >> Laurens: married Cornelia Brisee >> Catalyntje, b. 1785 >> Cornelius, b. 1786 married Cornelia Laraway >> Geisbert, b. 1788 >> Peter, b. 1790 married Cornelia Swart >> Andrew, b. 1800 married ?? >> Christina, b. 1801 >> Anna, b. 1803 >> Harriet, b. 1804 >> Gitty, b. 1809 married James Judson >> Possibly a John L. b. 1795 but can't find a baptism married Margaret >> (Peggy) ? >> >> For the other three brothers: >> John: married Maria Brandow >> Mary, b. 1800 >> Gilbert, b. 1802 >> Catalina, b. 1803 >> Isaac, b. 1810 >> >> Isaac: married Elizabeth Deyoe >> Solama, b. 1809 >> James Gilbert, b. 1811 married Caroline S. Huggans >> >> Cornelius: married Elizabeth Fowler >> Louise, b. 1802 married Lucas D. Schermerhorn >> Isaac C., b. 1804, married Polly Lament >> Abner H., b. 1810, married Maria Lasher >> Lucinda, b. 1818, married Corydon Kipp >> >> Anyone know who Giilbert Decker(b. 1808 and married to Christina >> Scheffer) >> parent's were? >> >> >> Thanks all >> Sylvia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/14/2009 02:36:23
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain
    2. lorna
    3. Thank u Sylvia, you have just given me the parents of ''Gitty'' Gertrude Decker( 7 Dec 1809- 4 Nov 1882). She married James Judson and both were ''deaf mutes'' according to the census and their gravestones. I couldnt find her father , thank u so much ! Lorna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <[email protected]> To: "Greene County List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain >I have now determined that Cornelius, John and Isaac had two other brothers > who also came over to Greene Co. It appears that 5 brothers - John (b. > 1768 > and married Maria Brandow), Isaac (b. 1781 and married Elizabeth Deyo), > Cornelius (b. 1778 and married Elizabeth Fowler), Derick (b. 1765 and > married Elizabeth Sesson) and Laurens (b. 1761 and married Cornelia > Brisee) > came to Greene Co - Prattsville/Lexington area abt 1800. I see Gysbert and > wife Catlyntje being sponsors for Laurens' son Andrew in 1800 in the > Prattsville RDC. I have the baptisms for all these sons. There is one > other > son of this family, Nicholas, b. 1772 that I do not see here in Greene Co. > > There is also the family of Leendert (Leonard) Decker and Elizabeth > Randall. > This couple was married in the Linlithgo RDC in Columbia Co on July 2 1780 > and removed to Greene county in the early 1800's. They had 5 children that > I > have found: Elisabeth, b. 1788, Jannetje, b. 1781, William b. 1783, John, > b. > 1786 (never married) and Nancy b. 1791 (never married). Leendert is the > son > of Cornelius Decker and Jannetje Conine, bap. 11.11.1752 in Germantown > RDC. > > I believe these are all the old Decker families from up the mountain. Can > anyone elaborate on any of the children of Derick and Laurens? What I > have > to date is: > Derick: married Elizabeth Sesson > John, b. 1786 married Christine McFall > Catalyntje, b. 1788 > Sybil, b. 1789 > Christina b. 1797 > Rebecca b. 1801 > James, b. 1803 > Dolly, b. 1805 > Dolly b. 1808 > Polly, b. 1810 > James Lawrence, b. 1813 > > Laurens: married Cornelia Brisee > Catalyntje, b. 1785 > Cornelius, b. 1786 married Cornelia Laraway > Geisbert, b. 1788 > Peter, b. 1790 married Cornelia Swart > Andrew, b. 1800 married ?? > Christina, b. 1801 > Anna, b. 1803 > Harriet, b. 1804 > Gitty, b. 1809 married James Judson > Possibly a John L. b. 1795 but can't find a baptism married Margaret > (Peggy) ? > > For the other three brothers: > John: married Maria Brandow > Mary, b. 1800 > Gilbert, b. 1802 > Catalina, b. 1803 > Isaac, b. 1810 > > Isaac: married Elizabeth Deyoe > Solama, b. 1809 > James Gilbert, b. 1811 married Caroline S. Huggans > > Cornelius: married Elizabeth Fowler > Louise, b. 1802 married Lucas D. Schermerhorn > Isaac C., b. 1804, married Polly Lament > Abner H., b. 1810, married Maria Lasher > Lucinda, b. 1818, married Corydon Kipp > > Anyone know who Giilbert Decker(b. 1808 and married to Christina Scheffer) > parent's were? > > > Thanks all > Sylvia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/14/2009 02:22:52
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Annie Rebecca Greene b.1852
    2. R. Mark Brown
    3. Doubt if it will be of any help but I am related to Silas Greene and wife Belinda Brown Greene of Jewett. Silas was born abt 1798. Mark On Jan 13, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Jackie Towner wrote: > I have that Charlotte Howard md Sylvestor Green (Feb 1828-1901)Their > children: Rebecca ca 1853' md ____Vedder; Burdet ca 1855, md Carrie > Whitaker; Charles M ca 1857; Albert J ca 1859; Elizabeth ca 1865. I > have an > Anna Howard, dau. of Sanford Howard and Elizabeth Brewer who > supposedly md a > Vedder also and had son, Horace > Jackie > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I am looking for information on Annie Rebecca Greene b.1852, dau. of >> Sylvester Greene and Charlotte Howard. I have found information >> that she was >> married to an "unknown Veeder", and mother of Howard V. Veeder >> 1871-1963 >> according to the 1880 census. Howard was married to Dora (Doris) >> Benjamin >> 1888-1981.? Anna Howard, Charlotte's sister, was also married to an >> "unknown" Veeder, and had a son Horace. I'm not sure if these >> "unknowns" >> were the same person or not. Both Howard girls were daughters of >> Sanford >> Howard and Elizabeth Brewer. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown [email protected]

    01/13/2009 04:41:34
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Annie Rebecca Greene b.1852
    2. Jackie Towner
    3. I have that Charlotte Howard md Sylvestor Green (Feb 1828-1901)Their children: Rebecca ca 1853' md ____Vedder; Burdet ca 1855, md Carrie Whitaker; Charles M ca 1857; Albert J ca 1859; Elizabeth ca 1865. I have an Anna Howard, dau. of Sanford Howard and Elizabeth Brewer who supposedly md a Vedder also and had son, Horace Jackie On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am looking for information on Annie Rebecca Greene b.1852, dau. of > Sylvester Greene and Charlotte Howard. I have found information that she was > married to an "unknown Veeder", and mother of Howard V. Veeder 1871-1963 > according to the 1880 census. Howard was married to Dora (Doris) Benjamin > 1888-1981.? Anna Howard, Charlotte's sister, was also married to an > "unknown" Veeder, and had a son Horace. I'm not sure if these "unknowns" > were the same person or not. Both Howard girls were daughters of Sanford > Howard and Elizabeth Brewer. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/13/2009 02:26:27
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Genealogy question
    2. ~ Ron W. ~
    3. Frank, if you use Family Tree Maker software, it has the capability to track an AKA name for each individual in the tree. Very handy for ancient/erroneous/soundex spellings..... like Walderne, Waldron, Waldren, Waldrom, Waldrum, etc. ~ Ron W ~ Today is a gift ----- Original Message ----- From: "PD" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Genealogy question > Hi Frank, > > I have the same situation with a few surnames. Might not be the best > way, but I started adopting one "official" spelling for a surname, in > order > to have them sort together in my database index. I list other spellings > (found for any individual) as a/k/a, or in fields I created called "Name > variant 1" "Name variant 2" etc. etc. (For each variant, I show the > source. > Could be a dozen or more versions just in the Old Dutch Church of Kingston > baptism & marriage registers.) > > I'll be interested to read what others do. > > Cheers, Peggy > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Frank Hotaling > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Tracing back my genealogy of Hotaling I have found it to be spelled >> numerous ways on census records, church records, court records and other >> records so it is an impossibility to know what the correct spelling is. >> >> When I enter all the variations in my data base it becomes an >> impossibility >> to identify correct individuals, since my ancestors used the same given >> names over and over and with variations on the spelling of the surname >> mistakes are easy for me to make. >> >> I have made a quick count of the spelling of the surname variations and I >> have over 30 and some of them are not even close to some of the others. >> They range from simple differences to major changes. >> >> >> How is someone who does not know how or what to do (me) suppose to do? >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions anyone can offer me. >> >> Frank Hotaling [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/13/2009 08:41:57
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place
    2. Virginia Sanok
    3. Cheers to You Sylvia. We are hoping and praying to go up this year. Two years in a row now we have wanted to go back and family things prevented us from going. Dan and I keep talking about it and are determined to make it this year. This will surely be one place we will go to see if we do come up. ________________________________ From: Sylvia Hasenkopf <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:16:58 PM Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place Virginia, according to the New Baltimore Town Historian, Clesson Bush, the Garrett Place is located at the end of Dugway Lane, in New Baltimore and is still a working farm. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Sanok" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place > > Does anyone know where this is located or where it was at one time? I have > tried to find any information > on the web and have come up empty handed. > Looking for Garrett Homestead > > John Garret > was of German descent, and came into New Baltimore a short time before the > Revolutionary war. He made his purchase and settlement a short distance > west of > the Kalkberg, a part of which is now known as the Garrett homestead. > Thanks, > Virginia Sanok > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2009 07:41:09
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place
    2. Virginia Sanok
    3. Sylvia, It would be wonderful if you can scan and send. I have gone to the cemetery with Dan but did not know that that was the burial site of the entire Garrett family. Gives me a new window to things. Virginia ________________________________ From: Sylvia Hasenkopf <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:18:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place Virginia, I have an article in the Heritage of New Baltimore Book that outlines the Garrett family, and also has a family bible inscription. Have you seen this? If not, I can scan and send it to you. It appears that the entire Garrett family is buried, according to this book, beside the Congregational Christian Church in Medway (this is on the Greene Co website). Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Sanok" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place > > Does anyone know where this is located or where it was at one time? I have > tried to find any information > on the web and have come up empty handed. > Looking for Garrett Homestead > > John Garret > was of German descent, and came into New Baltimore a short time before the > Revolutionary war. He made his purchase and settlement a short distance > west of > the Kalkberg, a part of which is now known as the Garrett homestead. > Thanks, > Virginia Sanok > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2009 07:37:47
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Genealogy question
    2. Sometimes it helps to break things up into time periods. In the 1600's and 1700's?I see alot of Hoogteeling's and Hooghtaling's (The Dutch version). In the 1800's it's been "Americanized" into Hotaling or Houghtaling. I tend to standardize the spelling also, but keep the original spelling in my notes just in case. -----Original Message----- From: PD <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 2:07 pm Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] Genealogy question Hi Frank, I have the same situation with a few surnames. Might not be the best way, but I started adopting one "official" spelling for a surname, in order to have them sort together in my database index. I list other spellings (found for any individual) as a/k/a, or in fields I created called "Name variant 1" "Name variant 2" etc. etc. (For each variant, I show the source. Could be a dozen or more versions just in the Old Dutch Church of Kingston baptism & marriage registers.) I'll be interested to read what others do. Cheers, Peggy On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Frank Hotaling <[email protected]>wrote: > Tracing back my genealogy of Hotaling I have found it to be spelled > numerous ways on census records, church records, court records and other > records so it is an impossibility to know what the correct spelling is. > > When I enter all the variations in my data base it becomes an impossibility > to identify correct individuals, since my ancestors used the same given > names over and over and with variations on the spelling of the surname > mistakes are easy for me to make. > > I have made a quick count of the spelling of the surname variations and I > have over 30 and some of them are not even close to some of the others. > They range from simple differences to major changes. > > > How is someone who does not know how or what to do (me) suppose to do? > > I would appreciate any suggestions anyone can offer me. > > Frank Hotaling [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2009 07:27:16
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place
    2. Sylvia Hasenkopf
    3. Virginia, I have an article in the Heritage of New Baltimore Book that outlines the Garrett family, and also has a family bible inscription. Have you seen this? If not, I can scan and send it to you. It appears that the entire Garrett family is buried, according to this book, beside the Congregational Christian Church in Medway (this is on the Greene Co website). Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Sanok" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place > > Does anyone know where this is located or where it was at one time? I have > tried to find any information > on the web and have come up empty handed. > Looking for Garrett Homestead > > John Garret > was of German descent, and came into New Baltimore a short time before the > Revolutionary war. He made his purchase and settlement a short distance > west of > the Kalkberg, a part of which is now known as the Garrett homestead. > Thanks, > Virginia Sanok > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2009 07:18:01
    1. [NYGREENE] new searchable database
    2. Elizabeth Lovaglio
    3. The German Genealogy Group www.GermanGenealogyGroup.com has added another free, searchable database. United States Circuit Court for the Southern District Court This database includes an index of 2,397 naturalizations covering the years 1846-1876 and 1906-1911.

    01/13/2009 07:15:07
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Genealogy question
    2. PD
    3. Hi Frank, I have the same situation with a few surnames. Might not be the best way, but I started adopting one "official" spelling for a surname, in order to have them sort together in my database index. I list other spellings (found for any individual) as a/k/a, or in fields I created called "Name variant 1" "Name variant 2" etc. etc. (For each variant, I show the source. Could be a dozen or more versions just in the Old Dutch Church of Kingston baptism & marriage registers.) I'll be interested to read what others do. Cheers, Peggy On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Frank Hotaling <[email protected]>wrote: > Tracing back my genealogy of Hotaling I have found it to be spelled > numerous ways on census records, church records, court records and other > records so it is an impossibility to know what the correct spelling is. > > When I enter all the variations in my data base it becomes an impossibility > to identify correct individuals, since my ancestors used the same given > names over and over and with variations on the spelling of the surname > mistakes are easy for me to make. > > I have made a quick count of the spelling of the surname variations and I > have over 30 and some of them are not even close to some of the others. > They range from simple differences to major changes. > > > How is someone who does not know how or what to do (me) suppose to do? > > I would appreciate any suggestions anyone can offer me. > > Frank Hotaling [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/13/2009 07:07:16
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Jones
    2. Seward, I found this: Benjamin A. JONES was born 29 Apr 1809, and died 26 Sep 1899. He married Catherine PECK 15 Apr 1842, daughter of Charles PECK and Sarah GOSLEE. She was born 13 Oct 1818, and died 28 Apr 1889.? ??? ?Child of Benjamin A. JONES and Catherine PECK is: ????? Sarah A. JONES was born 10 Jul 1847, and died 2 Apr 1922. ? 2. Sarah A. JONES was born 10 Jul 1847, and died 2 Apr 1922. She married Brainard O. PECK 27 Sep 1870, son of Charles B. PECK and Stata (Statira) COE. He was born 4 Nov 1848, and died 20 Sep 1928.? ??? ?Child of Sarah A. JONES and Brainard O. PECK is: ????? Bertha PECK was born 21 Jun 1880. ? 3. Bertha PECK was born 21 Jun 1880. She married William L. MATTOCKS 25 Sep 1907.? ??? ?Children of Bertha PECK and William L. MATTOCKS are:? ????????? Hellen Jeannette MATTOCKS was born 4 Nov 1911. ????????? Grace Elizabeth MATTOCKS was born 4 Aug 1910, and died 16 Apr 1911. ? 4. Hellen Jeannette MATTOCKS? was born 4 Nov 1911. She married Cameron Whitney SHAW 22 Oct 1927.? ??? ?Child of Hellen Jeannette MATTOCKS and Cameron Whitney SHAW is:? ? William Fredrick SHAW was born 14 Mar 1929. ? Ken -----Original Message----- From: Seward Osborne <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 1:46 pm Subject: [NYGREENE] Jones Does anyone know of any relatives of Benjamin Jones [1809-1899] and his wife Catherine Peck [1818-1889] of Hunter, Lexington and Jewett Centre. Also any of their children, especially Milo Alfred Jones [Civil War veteran, 1843-1902] and Sarah A Jones. [1847-1922], who married Brainard O. Peck [1848-1928]. When I was a young lad, there was a bright yellow house in Jewett Centre, up the hill and across from the old Baldwin place. It was an antique shop for awhile and I believe the owners may have been related. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Seward R. Osborne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2009 06:23:16
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place
    2. Sylvia Hasenkopf
    3. Virginia, according to the New Baltimore Town Historian, Clesson Bush, the Garrett Place is located at the end of Dugway Lane, in New Baltimore and is still a working farm. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Sanok" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place > > Does anyone know where this is located or where it was at one time? I have > tried to find any information > on the web and have come up empty handed. > Looking for Garrett Homestead > > John Garret > was of German descent, and came into New Baltimore a short time before the > Revolutionary war. He made his purchase and settlement a short distance > west of > the Kalkberg, a part of which is now known as the Garrett homestead. > Thanks, > Virginia Sanok > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2009 06:16:58
    1. [NYGREENE] Genealogy question
    2. Frank Hotaling
    3. Tracing back my genealogy of Hotaling I have found it to be spelled numerous ways on census records, church records, court records and other records so it is an impossibility to know what the correct spelling is. When I enter all the variations in my data base it becomes an impossibility to identify correct individuals, since my ancestors used the same given names over and over and with variations on the spelling of the surname mistakes are easy for me to make. I have made a quick count of the spelling of the surname variations and I have over 30 and some of them are not even close to some of the others. They range from simple differences to major changes. How is someone who does not know how or what to do (me) suppose to do? I would appreciate any suggestions anyone can offer me. Frank Hotaling [email protected]

    01/13/2009 03:44:00
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain
    2. Sylvia Hasenkopf
    3. Thanks Jim! Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Groat" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain > > Hi Sylvia, > > Just stumbled across these Deckers in my draft of a new Shufelt book and > I > thought you might be interested: > ------------------------------ > 212. Eva ROSSMAN, the daughter of Jacob Rossman and Elisabetha Zufelt > (52), > was born September 12, 1787, and baptized at St. Thomas Lutheran Church, > Churchtown, Columbia County, New York, October 21, 1787, with "Henry > Zufeld > and Maria" serving as sponsors. The baptismal record list the parents as > "Jacob Rosmann and Elisabeth." The sponsors at the baptism were most > likely > Henry A. Zufelt (57) and Maria Roth, the mother's brother and > sister-in-law. > Eva probably married William Decker and had: > > Jacob DECKER, the son of William Decker and Eva Rossman (212), was born > April 24, 1810, and baptized at the Reformed Church of West Copake, with > "Jacob Rosman and Elizebeth Shoevelt" sponsoring. The record of baptism > lists the parents names as "William Deckker and Eve Rosman." > > Tabita DECKER, the daughter of William Decker and Eva Rossman (212), was > born September 10, 1812, and baptized at St. Thomas Lutheran Church of > Churchtown, with "Sam Lascher *Loesher*, and wife Tabeta" sponsoring. The > record of baptism lists the parents names as "William Decker and Eva > Rossman." > > ------------------------------ > 1825. Anna TRAFFORD, the daughter of Robert Trafford and Catherine > Christina > Shufelt (851), was born September 1, 1855. She married, October 25, 1877, > Myron A. Decker, the son of Peter and Ida Decker, born about 1855. They > lived at Taghkanic, Columbia County, New York, where Myron was a farmer. > They had one child. Anna died December 9, 1916, and was buried in > Mellenville, New York. > > Sylvan Myron DECKER, the son of Anna Trafford (1825) and Myron Decker, was > born September 25, 1882. He married, about 1908, Catherine __________, > born > about 1890 in New York, and in 1910 they lived at home with his parents on > their farm at Taghkanic, Columbia County, New York. When Sylvan registered > for the WW-I draft at Hudson, Columbia County, September 12, 1918, he > listed > his home as Philmont, Columbia County, and he named his next of kin as > Kathryn Decker. Sylvan next appears in the 1930 census of Pittsfield, > Berkshire County, Massachusetts, employed as a transformer assembler for > an > electric company. This 1930 census is confusing. It lists Sylvan's wife as > Katherine, born about 1890 and daughter Ruth S. born about 1900. That is > fine since the spelling variation between Catherine and Katherine or > Kathryn > is common. However, listed with them is a "daughter, Helen Muller, age 13, > born in Massachusetts with both parents born in Massachusetts. Unless this > child was adopted or the census taker a dolt, it seems impossible for her > to > have been their daughter. Also living with them in the 1930 census is a > "Maggie Joy," age 65, born in New York, as were both parents. This remains > an unsolved mystery awaiting a future researcher. When Sylvan registered > for > the WW-II draft at Pittsfield, Berkshire County, Massacheusetts, he listed > his place of birth as Taghkanic, Columbia County, New York. Sylvan and > Catherine had a daughter, Ruth S., born in 1909. > > ------------------------------ > 1828. Sarah E. TRAFFORD, the daughter of Robert Trafford and Catherine > Christina Shufelt (851), was born August 26, 1868. She married, January > 30, > 1895, Thomas Decker, the son of Rensselaer and Jane Decker, born October > 1867. They lived at first at Copake, Columbia County, New York, where > Thomas > was a farmer, and later Hillsdale, New York. Sarah had one child and she > died in 1933. > > Otis T. DECKER, the son of Thomas Decker and Sarah E. Trafford (1828), was > born in Copake, Columbia County, New York, May 19, 1897. He married, about > 1919, Frances M. ______, born June 25, 1898. In 1930, they lived in > Hudson, > New York, where Otis was a pharmacist in a drug store. The had two > children-Murial, born about 1920; and Robert S., born about 1922. Otis > died > August 19, 1989. > > ---------------------------- > 1970. Florence D. VOSBURG, the daughter of Ward Vosburg and Jane Eliza > Shufelt (958), was born March 25, 1877. She married, about 1907, John A. > Decker, Jr., the son of John A. and Antoinette Decker, born in Hartford, > Connecticut September 1878. At the time of the 1910 census they lived in > Hartford where John was an insurance agent. In 1920 she was listed as a > widow at Hartford and her sister and brother-in-law-Harold S. Green and > Ella > H. Vosburg (1971)-were living with her. Florence died January 2, 1924. > ---------------------------- > I also have some info on a Wilbur Henry Decker, son of William H. and > Bertha > L. Decker, of the tow of Greene, Chenango County. It's in rough form but > you're welcome to it if interested. > > Warm Regards, > Jim Groat > --------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <[email protected]> > To: "Greene County List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:25 PM > Subject: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain > > > <snip> > >> >> Thanks all >> Sylvia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/13/2009 02:36:58
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain
    2. Jim Groat
    3. Hi Sylvia, Just stumbled across these Deckers in my draft of a new Shufelt book and I thought you might be interested: ------------------------------ 212. Eva ROSSMAN, the daughter of Jacob Rossman and Elisabetha Zufelt (52), was born September 12, 1787, and baptized at St. Thomas Lutheran Church, Churchtown, Columbia County, New York, October 21, 1787, with "Henry Zufeld and Maria" serving as sponsors. The baptismal record list the parents as "Jacob Rosmann and Elisabeth." The sponsors at the baptism were most likely Henry A. Zufelt (57) and Maria Roth, the mother's brother and sister-in-law. Eva probably married William Decker and had: Jacob DECKER, the son of William Decker and Eva Rossman (212), was born April 24, 1810, and baptized at the Reformed Church of West Copake, with "Jacob Rosman and Elizebeth Shoevelt" sponsoring. The record of baptism lists the parents names as "William Deckker and Eve Rosman." Tabita DECKER, the daughter of William Decker and Eva Rossman (212), was born September 10, 1812, and baptized at St. Thomas Lutheran Church of Churchtown, with "Sam Lascher *Loesher*, and wife Tabeta" sponsoring. The record of baptism lists the parents names as "William Decker and Eva Rossman." ------------------------------ 1825. Anna TRAFFORD, the daughter of Robert Trafford and Catherine Christina Shufelt (851), was born September 1, 1855. She married, October 25, 1877, Myron A. Decker, the son of Peter and Ida Decker, born about 1855. They lived at Taghkanic, Columbia County, New York, where Myron was a farmer. They had one child. Anna died December 9, 1916, and was buried in Mellenville, New York. Sylvan Myron DECKER, the son of Anna Trafford (1825) and Myron Decker, was born September 25, 1882. He married, about 1908, Catherine __________, born about 1890 in New York, and in 1910 they lived at home with his parents on their farm at Taghkanic, Columbia County, New York. When Sylvan registered for the WW-I draft at Hudson, Columbia County, September 12, 1918, he listed his home as Philmont, Columbia County, and he named his next of kin as Kathryn Decker. Sylvan next appears in the 1930 census of Pittsfield, Berkshire County, Massachusetts, employed as a transformer assembler for an electric company. This 1930 census is confusing. It lists Sylvan's wife as Katherine, born about 1890 and daughter Ruth S. born about 1900. That is fine since the spelling variation between Catherine and Katherine or Kathryn is common. However, listed with them is a "daughter, Helen Muller, age 13, born in Massachusetts with both parents born in Massachusetts. Unless this child was adopted or the census taker a dolt, it seems impossible for her to have been their daughter. Also living with them in the 1930 census is a "Maggie Joy," age 65, born in New York, as were both parents. This remains an unsolved mystery awaiting a future researcher. When Sylvan registered for the WW-II draft at Pittsfield, Berkshire County, Massacheusetts, he listed his place of birth as Taghkanic, Columbia County, New York. Sylvan and Catherine had a daughter, Ruth S., born in 1909. ------------------------------ 1828. Sarah E. TRAFFORD, the daughter of Robert Trafford and Catherine Christina Shufelt (851), was born August 26, 1868. She married, January 30, 1895, Thomas Decker, the son of Rensselaer and Jane Decker, born October 1867. They lived at first at Copake, Columbia County, New York, where Thomas was a farmer, and later Hillsdale, New York. Sarah had one child and she died in 1933. Otis T. DECKER, the son of Thomas Decker and Sarah E. Trafford (1828), was born in Copake, Columbia County, New York, May 19, 1897. He married, about 1919, Frances M. ______, born June 25, 1898. In 1930, they lived in Hudson, New York, where Otis was a pharmacist in a drug store. The had two children-Murial, born about 1920; and Robert S., born about 1922. Otis died August 19, 1989. ---------------------------- 1970. Florence D. VOSBURG, the daughter of Ward Vosburg and Jane Eliza Shufelt (958), was born March 25, 1877. She married, about 1907, John A. Decker, Jr., the son of John A. and Antoinette Decker, born in Hartford, Connecticut September 1878. At the time of the 1910 census they lived in Hartford where John was an insurance agent. In 1920 she was listed as a widow at Hartford and her sister and brother-in-law-Harold S. Green and Ella H. Vosburg (1971)-were living with her. Florence died January 2, 1924. ---------------------------- I also have some info on a Wilbur Henry Decker, son of William H. and Bertha L. Decker, of the tow of Greene, Chenango County. It's in rough form but you're welcome to it if interested. Warm Regards, Jim Groat --------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Hasenkopf" <[email protected]> To: "Greene County List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:25 PM Subject: [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain <snip> > > Thanks all > Sylvia

    01/12/2009 05:53:42
    1. [NYGREENE] More Deckers up the mountain
    2. Sylvia Hasenkopf
    3. I have now determined that Cornelius, John and Isaac had two other brothers who also came over to Greene Co. It appears that 5 brothers - John (b. 1768 and married Maria Brandow), Isaac (b. 1781 and married Elizabeth Deyo), Cornelius (b. 1778 and married Elizabeth Fowler), Derick (b. 1765 and married Elizabeth Sesson) and Laurens (b. 1761 and married Cornelia Brisee) came to Greene Co - Prattsville/Lexington area abt 1800. I see Gysbert and wife Catlyntje being sponsors for Laurens' son Andrew in 1800 in the Prattsville RDC. I have the baptisms for all these sons. There is one other son of this family, Nicholas, b. 1772 that I do not see here in Greene Co. There is also the family of Leendert (Leonard) Decker and Elizabeth Randall. This couple was married in the Linlithgo RDC in Columbia Co on July 2 1780 and removed to Greene county in the early 1800's. They had 5 children that I have found: Elisabeth, b. 1788, Jannetje, b. 1781, William b. 1783, John, b. 1786 (never married) and Nancy b. 1791 (never married). Leendert is the son of Cornelius Decker and Jannetje Conine, bap. 11.11.1752 in Germantown RDC. I believe these are all the old Decker families from up the mountain. Can anyone elaborate on any of the children of Derick and Laurens? What I have to date is: Derick: married Elizabeth Sesson John, b. 1786 married Christine McFall Catalyntje, b. 1788 Sybil, b. 1789 Christina b. 1797 Rebecca b. 1801 James, b. 1803 Dolly, b. 1805 Dolly b. 1808 Polly, b. 1810 James Lawrence, b. 1813 Laurens: married Cornelia Brisee Catalyntje, b. 1785 Cornelius, b. 1786 married Cornelia Laraway Geisbert, b. 1788 Peter, b. 1790 married Cornelia Swart Andrew, b. 1800 married ?? Christina, b. 1801 Anna, b. 1803 Harriet, b. 1804 Gitty, b. 1809 married James Judson Possibly a John L. b. 1795 but can't find a baptism married Margaret (Peggy) ? For the other three brothers: John: married Maria Brandow Mary, b. 1800 Gilbert, b. 1802 Catalina, b. 1803 Isaac, b. 1810 Isaac: married Elizabeth Deyoe Solama, b. 1809 James Gilbert, b. 1811 married Caroline S. Huggans Cornelius: married Elizabeth Fowler Louise, b. 1802 married Lucas D. Schermerhorn Isaac C., b. 1804, married Polly Lament Abner H., b. 1810, married Maria Lasher Lucinda, b. 1818, married Corydon Kipp Anyone know who Giilbert Decker(b. 1808 and married to Christina Scheffer) parent's were? Thanks all Sylvia

    01/12/2009 01:25:18
    1. [NYGREENE] Looking for this Place
    2. Virginia Sanok
    3. Does anyone know where this is located or where it was at one time? I have tried to find any information on the web and have come up empty handed. Looking for Garrett Homestead John Garret was of German descent, and came into New Baltimore a short time before the Revolutionary war. He made his purchase and settlement a short distance west of the Kalkberg, a part of which is now known as the Garrett homestead. Thanks, Virginia Sanok

    01/12/2009 01:02:16
    1. Re: [NYGREENE] Deckers from Lexington
    2. James Brady
    3. Hi Sylvia, Decker baptisms for the three you mention: Gallatin, pg. 19, #419, 1769, 10.29. John, of Gysbert Decker and Catlyntje Spoor. Sponsors John Decker, and wife Christina Spoor. pg. 24, #520, 1774, 5.18. Cornelius, of Gysbert Dekker and Catlyntje Spoor. Sponsors Cornelius Dekker, Marretje Dekker. Linlithgo, pg. 71, #1579, 1781, 12.16. Isaac, born 11.4, of Gysbert Ekker and Catlina Spoor. Sponsors Isaac Spoor, Diodemi Smith. 3 of the 11 children, bp. at Linlithgo, Gallatin, Claverack and West Copake from 1761 to 783. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Sylvia Hasenkopf Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:21 PM To: Greene County List Subject: [NYGREENE] Deckers from Lexington Well, mystery solved, to some degree. The three Decker men from Lexington, (Cornelius b. 1779, Isaac b. 1781 and John, b. 1768 all in Columbia Co, NY) are sons of Gysbert (Gilbert) Decker and Catlyntje Spoor. Gysbert is the son of Lawrence Decker and Christina Vosburg. Lawrence is the son of Jan Decker and Tysje Bogart. Jan is the son of Jacob Jans Decker and Beletje Jans Bastiannansse. Jacob Jans is the son of Jan Broerse (Decker) the immigrant and Heyletje Jacobs. Jan Broerse was b. in 1630 in Holland and was first documented in the New World in Esopus (Kingston, Ulster Co, NY) in 1658. This from the Decker genealogy at the Vedder Library, but also supported by my research. Now, I am still trying to figure out the sons of each of these men. To date I have: Isaac - James Gilbert, b. 1811 Cornelius - Abner H. b. 1810 (found a Bible record on him and his direct descendants) Isaac C. b. 1804 John - Gilbert, b. 1802 Isaac, b. 1810 Any ideas? Sylvia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2009 09:13:57