This is a later observation, good for future refrence. Jim H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hartigan" <jhartig1@twcny.rr.com> To: <Annecady@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] Fw: [NYE] AOL > Please pass the observation I forwarded to you to the LISTS you resp. to. > Are you taking a day off from tour cemetery proj.? > Jim Hartigan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Annecady@aol.com> > To: <NYSTLAWR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [NYSTLAWR] Fw: [NYE] AOL > > > > FYI...I'm on AOL and I'm certainly still getting the list mail....not even > a > > lull in traffic. AOL makes it easy to put a block automatically on a > > specific source of mail, but as long as I don't specify to block Rootsweb, > its all > > still coming in. > > > > Anne > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Unclefred" <unclefred@att.net> To: <NYESSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:04 AM Subject: [NYE] AOL > Folks, AOL is currently blacklisting Rootsweb, all list mail to > AOL/Compuserve list members is being rejected by AOL...:-( > > Regards, Fred, List Admin > > > ==== NYESSEX Mailing List ==== > Hi Listers, if u have any problems or ideas, > contact Listowner at: Unclefred@att.net > See our Essex County web page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

All of my emails to aol friends is being returned as 'delivery failed'....what's going on? >From: "Jim Hartigan" To: NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYGENESE] Fw: >[NYE] AOL Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:08:11 -0400 > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Unclefred" To: Sent: Saturday, >September 20, 2003 1:04 AM Subject: [NYE] AOL > > > > Folks, AOL is currently blacklisting Rootsweb, all list mail to > >AOL/Compuserve list members is being rejected by AOL...:-( > > Regards, >Fred, List Admin > > > ==== NYESSEX Mailing List ==== > Hi Listers, if u >have any problems or ideas, > contact Listowner at: Unclefred@att.net > See >our Essex County web page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex > > >============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 >billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? >Forget How to UN sub??? http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/genesee.html > _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

Please look over what is available on our website: Http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs Thank you, Jim Hartigan Member CNYGS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marny Howe" <marnyhow@wa.apana.org.au> To: <NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:19 AM Subject: [NYGENESE] Dr. John Follett Baker > I have just returned from a wonderful visit to the Historian's office in > Batavia where I obtained quite a bit of information on my gg grandfather > Dr. JOHN FOLLETT BAKER who was born in 1815, and practiced as a homeopathic > doctor in Batavia for many years. He married three times. > > The first to ANN MARIE (surname unknown) born c1817, died 26 May 1852, > buried Elmwood Cemetery in Batavia. They had four children, first born in > 1843, so I presume they were married in about 1842. Dr. Baker was living > in Otselic, Chenango County, from 1840 (when he graduated from the Geneva > Medical College). He practiced as an allopath in Otselic for about four > years. Therefore I imagine that he married Ann Marie ? in Otselic. The > children were born in c1843, 1845, c1847, c1850. > > His second wife was PHOEBE LOUISA WEEKS (parents not known) born 18 > November 1832 in Chautauqua Co., died 21 May 1881, married in March 1857 - > not known where. They had three children in c1860, v1863, c1865. > > His third wife was JENNIE E. COWDIN born c1836, died 1914, buried Elmwood > Cemetery. They married in 1886 in Batavia. > > Dr. John F. Baker died on 15 May 1898 and is buried in Elmwood Cemetery, > Batavia. > > I had had trouble finding out his personal information and was thrilled to > obtain the above. Now I shall have to find the name of his first > wife, the names of the parents of his second wife and her birthplace, and > the birthplaces of all his children. > > Marny in Perth Western Australia > > > ==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== > Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? > Forget How to UN sub??? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/genesee.html >

I have just returned from a wonderful visit to the Historian's office in Batavia where I obtained quite a bit of information on my gg grandfather Dr. JOHN FOLLETT BAKER who was born in 1815, and practiced as a homeopathic doctor in Batavia for many years. He married three times. The first to ANN MARIE (surname unknown) born c1817, died 26 May 1852, buried Elmwood Cemetery in Batavia. They had four children, first born in 1843, so I presume they were married in about 1842. Dr. Baker was living in Otselic, Chenango County, from 1840 (when he graduated from the Geneva Medical College). He practiced as an allopath in Otselic for about four years. Therefore I imagine that he married Ann Marie ? in Otselic. The children were born in c1843, 1845, c1847, c1850. His second wife was PHOEBE LOUISA WEEKS (parents not known) born 18 November 1832 in Chautauqua Co., died 21 May 1881, married in March 1857 - not known where. They had three children in c1860, v1863, c1865. His third wife was JENNIE E. COWDIN born c1836, died 1914, buried Elmwood Cemetery. They married in 1886 in Batavia. Dr. John F. Baker died on 15 May 1898 and is buried in Elmwood Cemetery, Batavia. I had had trouble finding out his personal information and was thrilled to obtain the above. Now I shall have to find the name of his first wife, the names of the parents of his second wife and her birthplace, and the birthplaces of all his children. Marny in Perth Western Australia

Leilani and Ray, I am sorry but I will not have time to do the story. We have someone in the family who is hospitalized and we have been running errands, etc. and I just won't be able to squeeze it in. I am just getting back into doing genie, as it is, and my energy level is not as it used to be. So I will have to forego this. Thanks for your time, but I just won't get it done on time. JoAnne Wanderer

Thanks to a member of the board I found that my Microsoft Works has a word count. Marge > DEADLINE: OCTOBER 15, 2003 > > The Genesee County Historian, Sue Conklin, has > asked that I pass along > the following for any and all who are > interested in Genesee County. > > WE ARE LOOKING FOR BIOGRAPHIES OF GENESEE > COUNTY RESIDENTS - - PAST OR > PRESENT > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Leilani, Almost ready to submit at least one bio. Need some advice on the counting of the 500 words. In the sample it showed (b. 1867, d. 1927) how many words is this? And what about a middle initial like Claude B. Spencer, do we count the B.? Thanks, Marge Pacheco NYGENESE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 16:35:18 -0400 From: Leilani & Ray Spring To: NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYGENESE] HISTORICAL BOOK IN THE MAKING DEADLINE: OCTOBER 15, 2003 The Genesee County Historian, Sue Conklin, has asked that I pass along the following for any and all who are interested in Genesee County. WE ARE LOOKING FOR BIOGRAPHIES OF GENESEE COUNTY RESIDENTS - - PAST OR PRESENT The Genesee County Historians Association is sponsoring, compiling and publishing GENESEE COUNTY, NEW YORK THE 20TH CENTURY IN REVIEW & FAMILY HISTORY and desire your assistance and input in order to compile a complete history and biography of Genesee County. To learn the full details, you can go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygags/Drectry.html where you will find complete information as well as a form that can be printed out and sent in with your biography and/or order. PLEASE check this out and complete it as quickly as possible in order to have a 100% listing of all individuals who have an interest in our county. Thank you. Leilani Spring --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

DEADLINE: OCTOBER 15, 2003 The Genesee County Historian, Sue Conklin, has asked that I pass along the following for any and all who are interested in Genesee County. WE ARE LOOKING FOR BIOGRAPHIES OF GENESEE COUNTY RESIDENTS - - PAST OR PRESENT The Genesee County Historians Association is sponsoring, compiling and publishing GENESEE COUNTY, NEW YORK THE 20TH CENTURY IN REVIEW & FAMILY HISTORY and desire your assistance and input in order to compile a complete history and biography of Genesee County. To learn the full details, you can go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygags/Drectry.html where you will find complete information as well as a form that can be printed out and sent in with your biography and/or order. PLEASE check this out and complete it as quickly as possible in order to have a 100% listing of all individuals who have an interest in our county. Thank you. Leilani Spring

Spirit of the Times Batavia-Genesee Co., NY February 24-1852 Married. On the 19th inst., by the Rev. J. W. Davis, Mr. Horace W. Shaw, of Bethany, to Miss Caroline E. Gibson, of Barre Centre. On the 19th inst., by the Rev. J.W. Davis, Mr. Byron Granger, of Webster to Miss R.S. Disbrove, of Bethany. In this village, on the 19th inst., by rev. S.M. S_im_on, Mr. Amasa E. Dorman, to Miss Sarah Churchill, both of Batavia. Died. In Alexander on the 8th inst., after a long and severe illness which he bore with uncommon fortitude, patience, and christian resignation to the divine will of her Heavenly Father, Abigail, wife of A_ _ Stowell, aged 70 years. At Lewiston on the 12th inst., Dr. Seymour Scovell, a most estimable citizen of this place, in the 66th year of his age. Terrible Accident on the N.Y. & Erie Railroad. [From the N.Y. Tribune of Wednesday] The most terrible accident which as yet occurred upon the Erie Railroad, befel the train coming to New York yesterday morning. The writer of this account was an eye witness and participant in the thrilling scene, and will briefly sketch what came under his notices. When the engine with a baggage car and four passenger cars attached, had come to a sharp curve in the road, about two miles west of Equinunk, those of us who were in the next to the last car, were suddenly startled from our seats, thrown hither and thither by that peculiar jolting motion, which is well known to the experienced as indicating that the car is off from the track. We were drawn over the sleepers for the distance of forty rods expecting every instant that the car would fall to pieces. The stove was at once upset, and the coals scattered in every direction, blinding our eyes with smoke and ashes. When the engine was stopped, upon rushing to the door, the first sight that met our view was the Delaware River rushing by directly beneath, at the foot of a walled precipice, at least thirty in feet height. The next moment the conductor of the train came drifting by upon a cake of ice, calling for help, and assuring us that he had already fallen through the crumbling foothold two or three times. A short distance behind him was a passenger in a similar situation. The ice was drifting at the rate of five miles an hour, and it required fast running to keep in a line with them. Ropes were procured from the engine, and after some minutes of fearful suspense, with the aid of a skiff and a board thrown to one of them to be used as a paddle, they were both rescued in a helpless condition. By this time, we learned that the passenger car behind us, the last of the train, was on the other side of the curve, thrown entirely into the Delaware River, with all who were in it. We hastened to the spot, and to thirty feet below was the car, almost buried under the water, and the poor creatures within were thrusting their arms out of the windows calling for help. Two or three of them had crawled upon the roof and were beseeching us to save them. The scene at first seemed to strike every one dumb with horror. The smooth-walled precipice could not be descended. We were obligated to go a little farther up the river, where there is no wall but only a gravel bank, and there slide down to the water's edge. The car, at the nearest end, was about 25 feet from the shore the water was deep and running very swiftly. Boards were found upon the beach but none of them were long enough. After half an hour's hard work a dead trunk of a hemlock tree was shoved into the last window, and the other end resting upon the ground. With the aid of this a bridge was built, upon which those able to walk were led, and those too much frozen to move were carried. An ax was procured and holes cut through the roof, and one after another the unfortunate passengers were lifted out. It was one of the most thrilling scenes ever imagined. A Young girl was drawn up, and at once began to plead that her mother might be saved; a husband begged for his wife's rescue-- friend struggled to save friend. An old lady seventy years was drawn out of the water insensible, but she afterwards revived. Upon getting the sufferers ashore, the only way to get them to a place of relief was to put ropes around their bodies under their arms, and draw them directly up the precipice. The severe cold incapacitated them for raising hardly a finger to aid themselves. The hair and garments of the ladies were frozen stiff as soon as they were drawn out of the water in the car. One man, by the name of Wyatt, was quite dead when taken from the ice. The sufferers (wounded dreadfully some of the, and all more or less bruised,) were taken into the two remaining uninjured cars and there made as comfortable as they could be, chilled through with dripping garments. Though two or three passengers were said to be missing, it was thought best to come on with the wounded, and they were left some of them at points upon the route, and those able and willing to do so continued their journey to New York. There is every reason to believe that four persons have been killed, and the number of wounded must be twenty or thirty. The Telegraph reports "a German pedlar from Buffalo," among those killed--name not given. submitted by Linda Web-Page Editor for Bethany BETHANY: Its Past and Present ~ Bethany Town Page http://www.arkwebshost.com/family/bluebird/TownOfBethany.shtml Contributor for the BUFFALO and Western NYS Website: www.buffalonian.com ~ History Through Newspapers

Republican Advocate Batavia, -Genesee co.-NY November 8-1822 Stray Steers Strayed from the pasture of the subscriber, in the month of August last, a RED Yearling Steer; About middling size, no artificial mark about him. Any person who will return him, or give information where he may be found, shall receive a generous reward. Aldridge Wells Batavia, (Bush's Mills) * Another Elopement!!! My Wife, Susannah, having seen fit to elope from my bed and board, without any just cause or provocation, I therefore forbid all persons harboring or trusting her on my account, as I will pay no debts of her contracting, after this date. John Preston Perry, October 31-1822. * Died. In Johnstown, on the 29th ult. Major John Little, aged 77. He was one of the remaining patriots who are fast dropping off from life, whose youthful vigor was spent in achieving our independence. Major Little was a brave and active officer during the whole of that arduous struggle, rendered peculiarly dangerous from the station in which he was placed. He was appointed to the command of the fort at Johnstown, for the protection of the surrounding country from the hoardes of savage Indians and more savage tories, commanded by Sir William Johnson, who resided near there, and whose horrid cruelties will never be forgotten. - from the 'Amsterdam Herald' * From the Geneva Gazette, Oct. 30. Distressing Event.-We stop the press to announce, that on Sunday evening last, between 8 and 9 o'clock, as Capt. Asa R. Swift, of Palmyra, eldest son of the late Gen. John Swift, Mr. Asabel Van Duzer, of the same place, and Mr. Roswell Smith, of Sodus, were attempting to cross Sodus Bay, from the Point, the boat either sank or upset, and melancholy to relate, till three were drowned. The bodies were not found yesterday morning when our informant left Sodus. * Coopering. Ephraim Morrill. Informs the Public, that he carries on the above business at his shop in Leicester street, a few rods east of the brick church, in this village. All articles in his line of business, constantly on hand, & very cheap. Work will be done on the shortest notice, and in the best manner. **Most kinds of PRODUCE received in payment. Two Journeymen at the Flour-Barrel Making Business, are wanted. None need apply unless they are first rate workmen. submitted by Linda Web-Page Editor for Bethany BETHANY: Its Past and Present ~ Bethany Town Page http://www.arkwebshost.com/family/bluebird/TownOfBethany.shtml Contributor for the BUFFALO and Western NYS Website: www.buffalonian.com ~ History Through Newspapers

We will hold our Fall meeting on September 14, 2003.  Our guest speaker will be Justice Salvatore Martoche. Justice Martoche will speak to us  about the WNY Heritage group and the new America's Crossroads book. This promises to be an informative session. Your guests are always welcome to attend. I hope to see everyone there. We will also be putting together our slate of officers for our election which will be held at the December 7th meeting. If you are interested in in running for office in any of the positions (President, Secretary, Treasurer or Web Master), please notify me via e-mail or speak with me at the September 14th meeting.  Here are the meeting details: When:     Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 1:00 PM Where:       Romanello's Roseland         490 Rhode Island, Buffalo NY         1 block West of Richmond Ave. Cost:        $12.00 per person         Includes lunch, beverage, tax & gratuity Contact:    Please RSVP by September 6, 2003 to Shirley Fischer         716-836-0511         ifischer@buffalo.edu Shirley Fischer President PIP Chapter 5, WNY

Hello! Would anyone have any information about the Mary Lew Tea Room in Le Roy, New York, that was in operation from approxomiately 1925 until it burned, possibly 1933 or 1934? I am writing a book about the Boddy family and would love to know more about the Mary Lew for my book. Here is what I know. My relative Ethel (Lewis) Bryant (Mrs. Harold Bryant) was a co-owner and operator of the Mary Lew. It is believed her co-owner may have been Mabel Harris, also of Le Roy. It is believed that the Mary Lew was located at 105 West Main Street. Ethel Bryant's obituary further states...that she "was co-owner and operator of the Mary Lew Tea Room on West Main Street in the former Ernest Townsend property, which is now [1961] the Oatka Hose company's club rooms. Mr. and Mrs. Bryant moved to Geneva, where for some time they managed the Geneva Country Club." Yes, apparently after the fire, Ethel and Harold Bryant moved to Geneva where they were host and hostess of the country club in Geneva. On October 16th, 1940, however, they were visiting in Le Roy and passed the Frank M. Harris home where a fire was in progress at his neighbor's, Louis Murray's. Harold immediately went to assist in putting out the blaze and later in the eveing suddenly died from a heart attack due to overexertion in helping to put out the fire. If you or anyone you know (older relatives or friends) has any information about either fire, I'd appreciate knowing more. I would be delighted to know more about the Mary Lew Tea Room, too, especially if you or someone you know could relate their experiences there. We are hopeful to find an old photograph or two, so any help with that is also greatly appreciated. Thank you! Sincerely, (Mrs.) Patricia Boddy Tharp _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

~ Republican Advocate, Batavia-Genesee Co.- NY: November 15-1822 RED JACKET'S SPEECH [Communicated.] The Chiefs of the Seneca Nation of Indians lately held a Council in this village, (Batavia) and requested several of the citizens of this place to attend; when their celebrated chief and orator, Red Jacket delivered the following eloquent address. The publications which lately appeared in the Niagara Journal, and several other papers, signed by five Indians of the Christian party, Jasper Parish and H. Jones, it appears called forth from Red Jacket the following justification of himself and nation. He addressed himself particularly to Judge Ross, of this village, who happened to be present:-- My Brother and Friend--The Great Good Spirit who governs the world, and who knows our thoughts and actions, whether they are good or bad, has placed within the Indian bosom and the white man's bosom, a certain monitor which regulates our conduct, which prompts us to do good, and makes us sensible of our crimes when we do wrong, now tell me to speak to you. I have lived many years, and have always been beloved and respected by my red brethren, for my love of peace and justice; a sincere honor and happiness, and an upright and honorable opposition to my change in those manners and customs which it first pleased the Good Spirit to give to us, his red children. I have from my youth up to the time that I now address you, always been considered as the friend of the white man, and I say it without the fear of contradiction, (and the Great Good Spirit knows without vanity, or any desire to make the world believe that I have more influence with my red brethren, than I in reality have,) that I have at all times had it in my power, (for such is their belief in my honesty and attachment to their interest,) to control their passions and their feelings, so as to excite their love or indignation for their white brethren, or to abide by or breach the treaties made by us with the people of the United States. But I now feel hurt, and grieved at heart, to think I know that my character and reputation has been so wickedly and wantonly assailed-that it has been represented to be a compound on everything that is vile and wicked, and published in papers, which I am told are sent not only through the whole United States, but even over the great waters to Europe, and that too by parish and Jones, men that we have always loved until we found they were unfriendly to us; men who had every reason to love us, and be true to our interests. They were nursed and fed by us in the wilderness. We protected them in their infancy, we educated them like their white brethren, that they might not feel themselves or appear to their white brethren like the wild Indians of the forests; we gave them lands and made them rich, yes richer than any of their white brethren, and for what? because we loved them, they were dear to us, yes, dear to us as the parent to the child that loves him. They were adopted parents, and to them we looked for counsel and advice, in all our difficulties. But they have been grateful to us for all favors and presents? No, gratitude is a stranger to the white man's bosom. Like the cruel and ferocious Panther of the forest, when a whelp, it is feeble and helpless as the Puppy. The Indian takes it to his hut. He feeds and nurses it with the food he has provided for his children. It acquires strength, vigor and activity, and unmindful and ungrateful for what has been done for him, he falls upon and devours his benefactor and helpless infants. But my friend, let us see if we can find any excuse or justification for their conduct. They accuse me of drunkenness and lying, and say that I was drunk 2 days during the Great Indian Council held at Tonnawanta. I say this is false, and I again repeat it, that the whole of the facts which have been published by me and the Chiefs assembled at that Council, are true; whereas the statements made by Parish and Jones in the piece printed by them, are false, and I will prove it. True it is, that I sometimes drink, and perhaps too much for my own good. But ought this to be published to the world? is this a public act? does it interfere with the treaties made between us and the people of the United States? No, it is only a private act. It concerns no one except myself and the Great Good Spirit, who, I know, will not approve, but knows of it. And here I wish to say that I myself know it is wrong. That in doing so, I set a bad example before my red brethren. But it is a habit which I unfortunately, with too many of my red brethren have caught from the white men, before we knew the fatal wicked and pernicious effects of this too delicious but strong water. But let not my Red Brethren follow my examples. Let my conduct in this respect be to them like the blaze emitted by an hundred dry hemlocks on the heights of the Allegany, to the wild beast of the forest warning them to fly far away,, and avoid danger and death. Examine then my public conduct through life, and see if you can find one blot or one stain to blacken my character. Look at the treaty made by me in behalf and for the Six Nations of Indians, with General Washington. Look at the treaty made between myself and Pickering at Canandaigua, examine them closely, and see if I have ever broken any agreement made by me in these treaties or any treaty made between the Indians and the President of the United States, wherein my name was signed to such treaty, or my faith was pledged for any tribe or any nation of the Six Nations of Indians, although I again repeat it. I have had at all times sufficient influence to persuade my red brethren to break them. I have round my neck a silver plate, presented to me by General Washington, which he told me to preserve and wear so long as I felt friendly to him and the United States, as an evidence of his friendship for me. If I have ever violated any treaty or any agreement made by me, why has this not been taken from me. You see it here yet. I say I never have so done. But as Parish and Jones, are not contented with what they have said about my private character, they say that the Indians are opposed to them because they are friendly to the christian religion. This is not true, because he has told me repeatedly that the "Black Goats did us more hurt than good, and that we ought to drive them away." When the Great Good Spirit made the world, he put in it the trees of the forests, the birds of the air, all kinds of animals, and fishes that live in the waters. To all these he gave their respective shapes, colours, natures, actions, &c. Although those are all fixed you see and are immovable. They cannot change, colour, nature or their actions or customs. He also at the same time made the White Man, the Red Man, and the Black Man. To the White Man he gave one way to worship him and certain customs; to the Red Man another, and his customs and way to live; and to the Black Man others still. Now I say we can't change our religion or custom, because they are fixed by the great good Spirit, and if we attempt to do it we shall offend our Great Spirit and he will punish us for it. From the rising to the setting sun examine all the different tribes of Indians, and see in what a condition you find them. I have travelled far. I have been from the Atlantic to the shores of the Pacific, and I know the habits, customs and situation of almost every tribe and nation of Indians. And I say that it is a fact, that whenever you find a tribe of Indians that have been christionized and have changed their custom or habit, which the Great good Spirit gave them, you will see that they are a poor, worthless, lying, ragged, miserable and degraded set of beings; and instead of becoming white men, as they expected to have become by changing their customs and habits, they have formed connections with the blacks, and have become black men in their actions and conduct. I say, therefore, that the Great Spirit will not suffer his Red Children to change their religion or custom. But when they attempt to do it punishes them by turning them into Black Men. It is not because the White Men love the Indians that they want to make them christians, it is because they want to cheat them out of their property. The Black Coats that they send among us with honey on their tongue, have always proved themselves to be dishonest; they are an ignorant, idle set of creatures, incapable of getting a living amongst their white brethren, and are therefore sent amongst us to get a living. They bring along with them a worthless set of White Men who steal our horses and seduce our Squaws. One thing more my Brother. Parish and Jones since they have become such good christians and pretend to do so much honesty, before they accuse me of being dishonest _ them clear themselves of the charges which we have brought against them, and not answer our statements which are true by abusing me. Let Jones return to the Indians the lands which he cheated Little Beard out of or at least give them to his Indian on, which he had by Little Beard's Squaw, after he had cheated his father. I have before stated, I am dissatisfied with the conduct of both Parish and Jones, and wish that Parish may be turned out of his office, and in saying this I am not alone, it is the voice of the whole Six Nations of Indians. We have put up with the _ treaties from these men for three years past. We have watched them narrowly and never have made any complaint until the whole matter had been submitted to a full council on the whole Six Nations of Indians held at Tonawanta. When the proceedings of that meeting were made known Parish instead of proving the accusations made by us as false as he ought to have done if it was not true, got four or five Indians who hold no place in our Councils to sign a false and abusive piece about the private reputation of the Chiefs who signed the proceedings of that Meeting and then published it to the World. He thought by this course, to frighten me into silence and subservience to his measures. But in this he is mistaken--so long as the Great Good Spirit will suffer me to live among his red children, I know it is my duty, (for a certain something within me tells me so) to watch over their interest, and as far as I am capable to protect them, from the cunning and avarice of the white men. I have only one thing more to say, and it is this:--We wish the President would appoint as our agent in the room of Mr. Parish, (for we are determined that he shall no longer be our agent,) either James Gnash, Mr. Joseph Annin, Mr. John Z. Ross, or Ethan B. Allen, Esq. With the appointment of either of the above gentlemen we shall be satisfied, and wish to have it done immediately. submitted by Linda Web-Page Editor for Bethany BETHANY: Its Past and Present ~ Bethany Town Page http://www.arkwebshost.com/family/bluebird/TownOfBethany.shtml Contributor for the BUFFALO and Western NYS Website: www.buffalonian.com ~ History Through Newspapers

Lance, Thanks. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Ware" <lance.ware@cox.net> To: <NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: RE: [NYGENESE] 1840 census question > Janet, > > No, street addresses are not given in the 1840 US census. The first time > they were even asked for was, I believe, in 1880, and they were usually > only recorded in urban areas. > > Lance > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: janet and bill [mailto:jslobvan@exit3.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 03:18 PM > > To: NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NYGENESE] 1840 census question > > > > Lance, > > I saw you just read the 1840 census and listed some neighbors. I was > > wondering if you noticed if the streets the people lived on are > > listed in > > the census. I can't remeber but thought that the would say somthing > > like > > Maple Ave at the top of the page. > > Thanks > > > > Janet > > > > ==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== > Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? > Forget How to UN sub??? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/genesee.html > >

Janet, No, street addresses are not given in the 1840 US census. The first time they were even asked for was, I believe, in 1880, and they were usually only recorded in urban areas. Lance > -----Original Message----- > From: janet and bill [mailto:jslobvan@exit3.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 03:18 PM > To: NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYGENESE] 1840 census question > > Lance, > I saw you just read the 1840 census and listed some neighbors. I was > wondering if you noticed if the streets the people lived on are > listed in > the census. I can't remeber but thought that the would say somthing > like > Maple Ave at the top of the page. > Thanks > > Janet

Lance, I saw you just read the 1840 census and listed some neighbors. I was wondering if you noticed if the streets the people lived on are listed in the census. I can't remeber but thought that the would say somthing like Maple Ave at the top of the page. Thanks Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: <lance.ware@cox.net> To: <NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [NYGENESE] look up request > Looking to contact Rachel who made the request for 1840 census of Susan Ainsworth. I tried twice to contact you off-list by email but your address bounced (not accepting mail). The info is below: > > 1840 US Census > Warsaw, Genesee, New York > sheet 228 > > Susan Ainsworth > 1 males 10-15 > 2 females under 5 > 2 females 10-15 > 1 females 30-40 > > neighbors: > Alden Richards > Timothy Flinman > Ervin Humphrey > Abiather Kendall > Chloa Phipnor > Thomas Rodgers > [Susan Ainsworth] > Robert Center > Jonathan Center > Daniel Martin > Stephen Hatch > Alden Keith > Susan Phelps > > Hope this helps! > > Lance > > > > ==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== > Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? > Forget How to UN sub??? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/genesee.html > >

Looking to contact Rachel who made the request for 1840 census of Susan Ainsworth. I tried twice to contact you off-list by email but your address bounced (not accepting mail). The info is below: 1840 US Census Warsaw, Genesee, New York sheet 228 Susan Ainsworth 1 males 10-15 2 females under 5 2 females 10-15 1 females 30-40 neighbors: Alden Richards Timothy Flinman Ervin Humphrey Abiather Kendall Chloa Phipnor Thomas Rodgers [Susan Ainsworth] Robert Center Jonathan Center Daniel Martin Stephen Hatch Alden Keith Susan Phelps Hope this helps! Lance

Correction to note below, she was on page 228. Bonnie Burkhardt bb86it@wideopenwest.com Subscribe to Missing Links and Somebody's Links at http://www.petuniapress.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Burkhardt" <bb86it@wideopenwest.com> To: <NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [NYGENESE] look up request > Rachel, > > Were you trying to find this on Ancestry? I tried for you and the image is > not there, > even when you go looking for it instead of clicking on a link. If you tried > to access it > on Ancestry, you have to contact them and alert them to the problem. She was > on page > 128 in Warsaw, Genesee Co., NY. > > Bonnie Burkhardt bb86it@wideopenwest.com > > Subscribe to Missing Links and Somebody's Links at > http://www.petuniapress.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rachel Fuller" <RFuller_00@afreeinternet.com> > To: <NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:59 AM > Subject: [NYGENESE] look up request > > > > I am searching for Susan Ainsworth in the 1840 census of Genesee county > and Warsaw township. I am interested to know if she lives alone or with > anyone else, and how old they all are. I would greatly appriciate this. > > > > Rachel > > > > > > > > "Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://www.raogk.com/" > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Open a Free Personalized Email account today at http://AFreeInternet.com. > > > > This service is SPAM-INTOLERANT. If you believe this message is > unsolicited commercial email, please report the incident at > http://AFreeInternet.com/contact.html. > > > > > > ==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== > > Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? > > Forget How to UN sub??? > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/genesee.html > > > > > ==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== > Genesee GenWeb has many Resources > Check it out!! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenese >

Is there anyone on the list who is researching the BOLT and HAMMETT surnames in Genesee County,NY.I am specifically looking for marriages between the two families that took place in Genesee County(Morganville,Stafford area) in the late 1800's and early 1900's.Both families emigrated to Genesee County from Devonshire,England in the early 1880's. Please contact me at: dannnan@bellsouth.net Thank you. Daniel R.M.Ginnane-Gannon in Charleston,SC