Hi all, CONGRATULATIONS KRISTY!! Figuring out NY isn't easy, even for New Yorkers!! All we're talking about is the breakdown of Land and Governments, which, as Kristy pointed out, goes like this: State, County, Town, then City or Village. Each county is broken down into several large land areas called Towns, each with its own Town government. Within the Towns, the breakdowns are then determined by population into Cities or Villages, each with THEIR own governments; villages being far less populated. TECHNICALLY, the census doesn't recognize "hamlets", but rather they're called "populated areas", which have names and can be found on some detailed maps, but they don't have their own governments other than the Town in which they're located. SO, EVERYONE in NY lives in a County AND a Town, and then SOME of us then live within a City or Village limits. As for the question of WHERE to find a death record, it was correctly pointed out that the hospitals in Genesee County have always been located within the City of Batavia, and if someone died IN the hospital, their death would in deed be recorded with the City. HOWEVER, given the time frame, it was far more likely that the death would not have occurred at the hospital, but it is a possibility. I should caution you though, that Vital Records were NOT mandated in NY until either 1880 or 1885, and even then, it was several years before ALL of the local agencies started to FULLY comply with that mandate. In other words, there may NOT BE a record for deaths in the late 1880s!!! Good Luck! Joan In a message dated 10/31/2003 10:32:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, hannah@teleport.com writes: > For those who live in Illinois...or in states with the same structure as > Illinois...the word "town" is confusing. > > Here "town" means a small city or a large village. > > In NY "town" means what we mean by "township"...and that's why one of the > answers to this question mentioned being a place to look for rural folks. > > So you can be in the State of New York, > in the County of Genesee, > in the Town of Batavia (i.e., in the Township of Batavia) and > in the City of Batavia. > > Perhaps this will help the person who inquired. I know I was confused the > first time I visited the area. We'd be driving along a rural highway when > all of a sudden there would be an official sign saying "Town of Batavia". > I looked around expecting to see a village any moment. Nope! Only more > fields and ruralness...Until we finally got to the sign that said "City of > Batavia" and all the congested city stuff. > > Kristy > Lincoln and Palmer research >

Progressive Batavian Batavia, NY December 26-1879 # 5 Edward S. Hitchcock and bride returned from their wedding tour last Friday afternoon. Their home is to be with Mr. Hitchcock's parents. Miss Jennie Goodwin has a little four-year-old cousin out in Oak Park, Illinois, who is remarkable for her cute speeches. They had been having a revival out there, and one day she knelt down by a relative of hers, and looking up in her face said: "I feel that I have given my heart to Jesus, and it has gone to him now, for I can not feel it beating." Then she went to her mamma, and wanted her to see whether she could feel her heart beating. When her mamma told her she could, she said: "Jesus took the heart and left the beating there." More "orange blossoms." Two weddings last Wednesday. Really, this mania for getting married seems to be contagious. In the afternoon of the day named, at the residence of the bride's mother, Miss Ada Clothier and George Mansfield joined hands for life in the presence of a few witnesses. The Rev. J.B. Countryman performed the ceremony. The happy couple went west on the 6:10 train for a short trip, and returned home Saturday. They will live with Mrs. Clothier this winter. The second wedding took place in the evening at Wheaton Southworth's, and the parties interested were Mrs. Theresa A. Merriam and Malden Gifford. The officiating clergyman was the Rev. W.I. Crane. Dr. Townsend's mother-in-law, Mrs. Lampshire, was found dead in her bed at the Doctor's last Sunday morning. She arrived at the Doctor's the day before, having come from Wheatland with her son. She went to bed apparently as well as usual. Not coming down in the morning, Mary Teare, who works at the Doctor's, went to her room and found her dead as above stated. Apoplexy is supposed to be the cause of her death. Mrs. Lampshire was 74 years of age. The funeral will take place at Dr. Townsend's at 8 o'clock Thursday morning. The remains will be taken to East Bloomfield for burial. The annual election of officers of the Berger[sic] Grange occurred last Saturday evening, with the following result: Master, M. Bower Overseer, Dr. R. Andrews, Lecturer, S. Gillett Steward, Ben. Walter; Assistant Steward, Ira Hewes Chaplain, C.S. Wilcox Treasurer, Judson McConnell Secretary, M.S. Gillett Gate Keeper, W.A. Bower Ceres, Mrs. Fayette Van Sickle Pomona, Mrs. F.S. Weeks Flora, Miss Hattie Warren Stewardess, Miss Mary O. Gillett Organist, Mrs W.A. Bower Trustee, E.T. Stevens. Wednesday evening, the 31st inst.,, the Young People's Association of the M.E. Church will hold their sociable in Buell's Hall. A first-class supper will be served and no pains spared to make it pleasant for those who attend. Paul Bovenizer's team ran away from Platts & McPherson's warehouse with a sleigh half loaded with barley yesterday afternoon. They ran up LeRoy street, over the fence at the end of the street and into Hatch's lot, down to the lower end of the lot, where they were stopped by a fence. No damage done. The horses were frightened by the 4 o'clock express, and not being tied, took to their heels. Always tie your horses, young man. Dec 23d, 1879. Mr. Henry's Premium Minstrels. This popular and unexcelled minstrel organization appears at the Opera House on Monday evening next, 29th inst. The company is showing in all the cities and principal villages and the entertainment has everywhere been greeted with large audiences, their business ranging from $1,000 to $1,200 per week. The Little Falls 'Journal' says of them: "The different performances were rendered in first-class style and showed that Mr. Henry carries nothing but the best of talent. H. Henry's cornet solos were as fine as we have ever listed to, and called forth several encores." Tickets are on sale at Mackeys.' Pinafore by Juveniles. Lehnen's Juvenile Opera Company in the reigning musical success, "H.M.S. Pinafore," are to appear at the Opera House in this village on Wednesday and Thursday nights of this week, and, by special request of many of our leading citizens, will give a matinee on Christmas afternoon at 3 o'clock. The impersonations of the little folks, who range in age from five to fifteen years are graceful, exquisite and every time acceptable. Admiration and astonishment equally fill the mind of all who see and hear the performance. Reserved seats are already being marked off at Mackeys', and we predict full houses. Admission, 35 and 50 cents. Cigars in boxes, suitable for presents, at Mackeys'. Pianos & Organs.-Persons wishing to purchase either a Piano or Oregon will do well to call on F.P. Terry, at the Opera House. Narrow Escape from Inhaling Coal Gas.-Mr. Will Walkinshaw, of the 'Advocate,' and his wife were rendered unconscious on Tuesday night last by inhalations of coal gas. Their sleeping room is warmed by a coal stove, and on the night mentioned it seemed to be unusually productive of gas which filled the room. Mrs. Walkinshaw was awakened by a sense of stifling and she awakened Mr. W. and both managed to call for help and crawl to the hall, where they were soon found unconscious by the other inmates of the house. They were at once medically treated, and although very weak this (Wednesday) morning, they will undoubtedly come out all right. We sincerely hope nothing serious will follow. Getting Well.-Mr. Batavian: Mr. McConville, who lives in Sweden, just across the Bergen line, is, to the astonishment of all, getting well. Did you ever publish the particulars of the accident which so nearly cost him his life? It happened on election day. He had just got into his wagon to return home from Brockport, when the horses started suddenly, pitching him out head first upon the curb stone. His head was smashed, part of the brain exuding. His recovery is considered a great wonder here. A little incident connected with the accident is interesting, and as I have never seen it published I send it. The falling out of Mr. McConville frightened his horses and they ran away. His dog took after them, tried several times to stop them by catching the wheel with his teeth, and, finally, one of the lines having fallen out of the wagon, caught it and thus turned the horses into an open yard and stopped them. He then stood guard over them, allowing no one to touch them until one of Mr. McConville's sons came to get them. submitted by Linda Web-Page Editor for Bethany BETHANY: Its Past and Present ~ Bethany Town Page http://www.arkwebshost.com/family/bluebird/TownOfBethany.shtml Contributor for the BUFFALO and Western NYS Website: www.buffalonian.com ~ History Through Newspapers

I dont know if a question as general as this is acceptable but I am stuck with my grandfathers line. My knowledge of him begains with his birth in Batavia in 1850. His father died prior to his birth. He had a older brother named Alison and I believe a sister named Jane. It appears perhaps sometime in his early youth the family split up and each child seperatly went to live with familys named Parker.We do not know his mothers name but it could have been Adelia or Delia. If any of this rings a bell with someone I would certainly appreciate any information I would recieve. Please email me at phywri@earthlink.net Dick Wright St Louis MO

For those who live in Illinois...or in states with the same structure as Illinois...the word "town" is confusing. Here "town" means a small city or a large village. In NY "town" means what we mean by "township"...and that's why one of the answers to this question mentioned being a place to look for rural folks. So you can be in the State of New York, in the County of Genesee, in the Town of Batavia (i.e., in the Township of Batavia) and in the City of Batavia. Perhaps this will help the person who inquired. I know I was confused the first time I visited the area. We'd be driving along a rural highway when all of a sudden there would be an official sign saying "Town of Batavia". I looked around expecting to see a village any moment. Nope! Only more fields and ruralness...Until we finally got to the sign that said "City of Batavia" and all the congested city stuff. Kristy Lincoln and Palmer research

I'm going to tell you just the opposite. The hospitals have always been in the city as far as I know. To tell you the difference between the city and the town is easy. The city of Batavia is the city and is surrounded by the town of Batavia, the town is somewhat like a subburb of the city. Does that sound clear as mud? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Yup, clear as mud....lol. I located an email address for the Town of Batavia, so was able to email them today.....Still can't help but wonder why the two distinctions. Thanks for the input. Diane/freezing in Oregon > [Original Message] > From: Robert E Wilson <robertewilson@juno.com> > To: <NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/31/2003 6:06:43 PM > Subject: [NYGENESE] Re: Batavia Queation > > I'm going to tell you just the opposite. The hospitals have always been > in the city as far as I know. > To tell you the difference between the city and the town is easy. The > city of Batavia is the city and is surrounded by the town of Batavia, the > town is somewhat like a subburb of the city. Does that sound clear as > mud? > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== > Genesee GenWeb has many Resources > Check it out!! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenese

Hi Diane, I would start with the Town, which is the more rural area around the City. If they are buried in Darien, then there's a pretty good chance that they lived in the rural areas of the southwest Town of Batavia, near where it touches the corner of the Town of Darien. Good luck, Joan In a message dated 10/30/2003 8:47:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, jackanddiane@earthlink.net writes: > I am trying to locate the death certificates of our 3rd grt-grandparents, > Robert and Nancy McDonald. They are buried in the Darien Cemetery, but > their death records are not in Darien Center. I suspect they died in > Batavia and was sent addresses to write to...however, I don't know which > one is appropriate. The Town of Batavia or the City of Batavia? The > deaths were in 1883 and 1887 respectfully. > > Can someone help me what with the differences in these two and which one to > write to? > > Thanks, Diane/Oregon

I am trying to locate the death certificates of our 3rd grt-grandparents, Robert and Nancy McDonald. They are buried in the Darien Cemetery, but their death records are not in Darien Center. I suspect they died in Batavia and was sent addresses to write to...however, I don't know which one is appropriate. The Town of Batavia or the City of Batavia? The deaths were in 1883 and 1887 respectfully. Can someone help me what with the differences in these two and which one to write to? Thanks, Diane/Oregon Jack and Diane Evans jackanddiane@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

Hello, Does anyone know anything about these people? I have seen Abram & Fanny Reese on the 1860, 1870, and 1880 census for Pavilion, Genesee County, NY. The 1880 census indicates that Abram's father, Martin, was living with them. The 1860 census indicates that there was a Levi Reese living with them. Judging from the age, he could be a brother to Abram and I'm hoping to either prove or disprove that he is the same Levi Reese that I am descended from. On the Genesee County GenWeb site I found a cemetery transcription indicating that Abram died in 1916. Could someone tell me what newspaper was in publication at that time so that I could try to obtain an obit for him. Thank you, Cheri

Thank you very much, Marsha...this is exactly what I was looking for. Appreciate the suggestion. Diane/Oregon

Jack & Diane, I don't know if the Batavia paper is on-line but I have entered a William Herington's Obit from the Batavia Daily on the Find-A-Grave website. www.findagrave.com You can search by name or cemetery (Hillside) Hope this helps. Marsha Redden ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack and Diane Evans <jackanddiane@earthlink.net> To: <NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: [NYGENESE] RE: Obit/Batavia/2001 > Does anyone know if the Batavia newspaper is online? I need an obit for > a William Herington who died 11 Nov 2001. Or is there anyone who would > be willing to get it for me? Thank you, Diane > > > Jack and Diane Evans > jackanddiane@earthlink.net > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > ==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== > Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? > Forget How to UN sub??? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/genesee.html > >

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Does anyone know if the Batavia newspaper is online? I need an obit for a William Herington who died 11 Nov 2001. Or is there anyone who would be willing to get it for me? Thank you, Diane Jack and Diane Evans jackanddiane@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

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Hello. Am new to the list and was wondering about the possibility of getting an obit for Delphine Herington/Herrington/Harrington who died 11 Aug 1877 in Darien? I also need ones for her parents-Robert McDonald died 15 November 1883 and his wife, Nancy McDonald who died 14 February 1887. All in Darien, I think, or maybe Batavia. Any help is greatly appreciated. Diane/ Oregon Jack and Diane Evans jackanddiane@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

Thanks to all the wonderful listers who answered my query. As we all know by now, Rootsweb was down for nearly a week and my query was held up as well. My system is fine and it looks as though Rootsweb is too. Again, thanks! Sally Bailey fbsb@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: JoAnne Wanderer To: F. Bailey Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [NYGENESE] Why is the List so Quiet Dear Mr. Bailey I can't say what the problem is, your system or the list... however I have read that the GenNewbie list was down for about 10 days,- I say about because it ceased about Oct 8th & resurmed on about Oct 16th.. and Now look at this message you sent for example- the date is Mon. Oct. 13th, but I FIRST RECEIVED it Oct 18th Sat am. So I am wondering, perhaps with so many putting in email to list, perhaps this caused a back up or log jam... Things will get back to normal- it is hoped. I am replying in case others out there don't have time, or didn't get your message yet. This being Sat. and much to do for so many.. ..There are many of us who are glad the list is active again.. J. W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Bailey" <fbsb@earthlink.net> To: <NYGENESE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: [NYGENESE] Why is the List so Quiet > I haven't received any mail from the list for days. Is there a problem with the system? Or is this my own problem? > > S. Bailey > fbsb@earthlink.net > > > ==== NYGENESE Mailing List ==== > Need to UNsub for vacation or summer?? > Forget How to UN sub??? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/genesee.html >

Nope, you aren't having problems!! This list is ALWAYS pretty quite!! Joan In a message dated 10/18/2003 8:54:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fbsb@earthlink.net writes: > I haven't received any mail from the list for days. Is there a problem > with the system? Or is this my own problem? > > S. Bailey > fbsb@earthlink.net

Looking for Frederick and Fredericka BERG family from Prussia to Elba, granddaughter Bessie BROWN m Earl PASSAGE (Batavia).