Judy, thanks very much for your reply. William T. Smith was the eldest son of Theodore Smith, my great-great-grandfather. Ceylon Smith was his other son from whom I'm descended. I surely would appreciate anything you could provide, Judy. Until recently I only knew that Theodore had two sons, William and Ceylon (and a daughter Lucy) and nothing else at all about William. Yes, a death certificate and burial information for William would be excellent. Could you throw any light on paths I could take to uncover whether he had any descendants? We are petering out on Ceylon's side so I am curious whether there is a line from William. Would there be a photograph of that store? I am not really interested in Mr. Kloss other than his link to W. T. Smith. I have wondered for some time what was referred to in an old family postcard I have, written on February 27, 1908 in Gloversville and sent to Ceylon's wife in Toronto, Ontario. It reads: "We have been expecting Mr. Smith over here. I called at his brother's store once to see if he had come." The date is interesting. This is only 22 days after Theodore Smith had died on February 5, 1908. I interpret this that Ceylon had gone to Gloversville for his father's funeral (or as soon thereafter that he could) and was staying for awhile and had not made it over to see the friends who sent the card back to his wife in Toronto. So you can see here that I had the lead that William T. had some sort of store and another kind person recently found a reference to the Smith and Kloss grocery store in the Gloversville directories. Judy, is it also possible to get a death certificate for Theodore Smith's wife Elizabeth (Van Valkenburgh) Smith? She died in her nineties in the early 1930s, but I'm not sure what the date was. I am working on the assumption that she died in Gloversville. Also -- how would I go about getting an obituary for Theodore Smith? Where are the records kept for old newspapers? Thanks 1,000,000 for anything that you can provide or direction you can send me in. Daryl/Kitchener, Ontario, Canada dcsxnr05@sympatico.ca -----Original Message----- From: nyfulton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyfulton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: February 10, 2007 4:20 PM To: nyfulton-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYFULTON] Smith and Kloss grocery store, Gloversville,NY c. 1900 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.fu lton/2508.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Smith was William T. Smith. He resided at 8 Temple St. Gloversville, Kloss was John kloss, residing at 85 north St. Gloversville. Did you want a look-up regarding death cert., burial, or ?? The building is still standing on w. Fulton St. Judy Marcoux Dep. City Historian Gloversville, NY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYFULTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message