This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1044.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Good point.I'd never considered the possibility they were models. I have a letter out to the Amsterdam Historical Society concerning Rodney Hall Johnson, and, if they reply,I will bring up the subject in my follow-up letter.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1044.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I looked through all of the Johnstown photos with an emphasis on the Johnson Hall photos. I found two color images of unnamed women. One is seated alone evidently reading a letter since there is an opened envelope on the floor. The other is of two women, one seated on the floor by a spinning wheel looking up lovingly at a woman seated in a chair by the window. Are these the pictures you saw? I have no evidence to suggest that these are Wells women although they might be. IF these photos were taken around 1900 and IF these are Wells women, I would suggest that the older one might be Sabra Margaret (Wells) Burr who would have been age 54 in 1900, but I have no idea who the younger woman might be. Note that the idea of this being Sabra is complete speculation on my part. I suspect that if the truth were known, these people were part of the reinactments that take place at Johnson Hall all of the time and were taken after Johnson Hall was made a historic site. A bit of research might turn up something. I assume that you found the photo of Catherine Howe Wells and of Mrs. Edward Wells. There was also a photo of a Judson Wells, but I do not know where he fits.

I have a 1928 Gloversville High School Yearbook. If anyone needs a lookup for any ancestors I would be glad to do so. Gloria Creasy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1044.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Did a search for Johnson,photos of Johnson Hall came up and they are in there .I can't remember how many I saw.Who's the pregnant one?I saw her again with a photo of her(mother?)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1044.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Great site. Thanks. Didn't find many Wells women, though. Just Catherine (Howe) Wells and Mrs. Edward Wells. Where did you find others?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1044.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Have you checked out the Fulton-Montgomery Photographic Archives? There are photographs of Wells women there,but no names.....

Joanne, Here is a brief synopsis: Olive Dutton was born 16 Feb 1883, to Milton Dutton and Elizabeth Yauney. Her mother died 3 Dec 1883, age 27. Elizabeth's parents were David Yauney and Lisanda (or Lucinda?) Williamson. David and Levi were brothers. Olive's line back is Elizabeth Yauney (1856 - 1883), Lisanda Williamson (1837 - 1878), Elizabeth Getman (1817 - 1890) and Josiah Williamson (1817 - 1896) [also a Getman descendant], Benjamin Getman (1791- 1879) and Marytje Van Antwerp (1797 - 1883). Crawford (1834 - 1917) was a son of Benjamin and unmarried. I can send you more offline. Clyde J. Getman

Does anyone know the parents of Ollie or Olive A. Dutton, born about 1882 in (I think) Fulton Co.? She lived with Levi and Lucinda Pratt Yauney in Ephratah as an adopted daughter in 1900 and with the widowed Lucinda in 1910. A newspaper item referred to her as Lucinda's niece, but the census always said adopted daughter. She married the minister Royal A. Stanton about 1914, and they lived in Ephratah in 1920 and in Albany Co., NY in 1930. Ollie Dutton was somehow a member of the family descended from Benjamin and Marijte (Mary) Van Antwerp Getman. Their son Crawford Getman (1834-1917) left money in his will to many nieces, nephews, grand-nieces and grand-nephews, one of whom was Ollie Dutton Stanton. I assume that her parents died before the 1900 census, and I can't identlify from which one of Crawford Getman's nieces or nephews she's descended. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Joanne Gaudio

Thanks to all who replied ---I was able to cotact Sylvia Jennings Zierak and purchase a copy of her book which I received in the mail Yesterday ------ Thank You --- Leslie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1368.2 Message Board Post: Leslie, The book is available for $10 from Sylvia Zierak, 934 Midline Road, Amsterdam, NY 12010-6256.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gRB.2ACE/1311.1.2.2.2 Message Board Post: Can you provide any more info on the Wealtha Armstrong you mentioned in your message? She is my great-grandmother and would welcome any information. Her maiden name is Wealtha Fraker Tanner

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gRB.2ACE/1376 Message Board Post: New York State Genealogists are banding together via an on-line Petition to the New York State Public Library requesting the STATE Library to seek - STATE FUNDING to be utilized to provide holders of valid New York State Public Library Cards with REMOTE on-line internet access to HeritageQuest Online, a collection of online databases including original U.S. census records, Revolutionary War pension applications, more than 20,000 local and family history books, Freedman's Bank records, AND ProQuest Historical Newspapers, including the New York Times Historical Newspapers 1851-2003. Please visit the Link Below to read and sign this Petition, if you agree with what it is trying to accomplish. http://www.petitiononline.com/fundhqpq/petition.html The petition is designed for NY Residents only. HOWEVER, If you are an out of state resident and would be willing to pay a fee for remote access - sign with your City and State of residence and add a comment stating this. Other states offer it, why not New York????

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1375 Message Board Post: Hello Board, Jacob McCRARY and Roxalene BARNES of Oppenheim had several daughters? (need names and dates) Jane McCRARY b.1818 Oppenheim m. 1st Mr. BALLARD and had one son. (Need Names etc. I believe her aunt Jane McCRARY may have married a Daniel ROGERS) Jane McCRARY of Oppenhiem, Montgomery/Fulton County, NY. m.2nd Nathaniel KEELER of Mindenville is anyone any relation to this family or do you have any information on them? Has anyone located any Plat Maps, Deeds or Wills of Oppenheim or Minden? Does any one have Census Records for 1830 in Minden and Oppenhiem? Need a look up for McCRARY, BARNES, KEELER and ROGERS The Keelers may have owned the Store in Mindenville in the early 1800's... What is the proper way to spell Roxillina? (Barnes) McCRARY Her father John BARNES, I believe was in Capt. Strongs Company in the Revolutionary War? Thank You very much Best regards Kurt McCrary In Michigan I find: 1869 -1870 Ballard, J.(of Mindenville) laborer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1373.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My great-great-grandmother was Hannah Murphy Leggins from Ireland and she did have a son named John. I believe John was born around 1894/95, so he would have been in his early/mid 20's in the 1920 census and the youngest of his siblings. The oldest was my great-grandmother Nellie. With a small black population I'm sure that there are still people that knew the family or are a part of the family. I'll certainly check the library and county clerk's office. I'd like to see Hannah's citizenship papers, they would be able to tell us something about her family. I have the names, addresses and phone numbers of the county clerks and libraries. I plan on making a few phone calls before I head up that way. I might be able to accomplish something over the phone or through the mail. Thanks for all of the useful information. I'll post my findings and let you know how things are going. Again, thanks and God bless. Deborah

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gRB.2ACE/1185.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: FYI on Broadalbin records! The Broadalbin Cemetery records may have started in 1850 even though the cemetery was 50 or more years old at that time. Many of the records were reportedly lost when the drug store burned, and the owner was holding those records at his place of business. Records today seem to start at about 1939. This seems like quite a while ago, but not to a person working on genealogy. On churches-- The first Catholic church started around 1886, the Methodist church has a scattering of records (recorded in 1930 by the DAR) and on line. It is said that the pastors considered the records theirs and took them when they moved. The Baptist church burned to the ground in Nov. 1877 and anything they may have had were lost. The Presbyterian church supposedly has some records, but they are very protective of them and I have never had a chance to look at them. Vitals in the Town start in 1883 and vitals in the Village of Broadalbin did not start until after it was incorporated in 1924. I believe we all suffer with NYS brick walls.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gRB.2ACE/1185.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, Kurt, Welcome to the Club of Searchers with Brick Walls in Montgomery/Fulton County. I may be a charter member of the Club, having hit the Brick Wall in 1963. In my experience, the records for this period are meagre. As you know, the census lists only the heads of families. Civil records were not required until much later. The churches were newly formed; many apparently had itinerent or shared pastors, who may have kept the records personally. Furthermore, some of the Protestant denominations (e.g. Baptist) did not record "vital" events. The cemeteries have been well-recorded, but as Mr. Cornell points out, these records are only the stones, not the sexton's records. All the towns are supposed to have a Town Historian, but often they, while helpful (like Mr. Cornell and his father before him), don't have much information about the early times. The land records are particularly frustrating. As apparently you know, the land was originally given to proprietors, many of whom held on to it for decades, leasing it to the actual inhabitants listed in the census. I have been unable to find leases, lot listings of the various grants or even precise grant locations. The Montgomery County Department of History and Archives has much information, including miscellaneous surname files, which they will search for an hourly fee ($25, I think). The LDS church has microfilmed the holdings of MCDH&A as well as those at the county courthouses at Fonda and Johnstown. Their catalog at www.familysearch.org lists just about everything extant. The Fulton and Montgomery sites in the USGenWeb also have good information gathered by dedicated volunteers. Our last hope may be privately-held family records. This is one of the values of these mailing lists. Or, at least, we have others with whom to commiserate! I hope this information is useful; please do not hesitate to ask for additional details.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/1185.2 Message Board Post: No. But I'm hopeful. I've been told the records don't exist because they're too old for NY. I hope not!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gRB.2ACE/831.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Any listings of "inhabitants" of Town of Broadalbin cemeteries would be more correctly labeled as lists of cemetery stones to be found in a particular cemetery. It is without question that MANY lie in unmarked graves, due to never receiving a stone or because it became broken and some uncaring person discarded it! Also, some have stones there and are buried in another cemetery. Another case finds a person with a name on two different stones, and obviously buried in but one of those graves. And on it goes !!!! Gordon Cornell, Caretaker, Broadalbin Mayfield Rural Cemetery (aka The Broadalbin Cemetery) and not the Broadalbin Village Cemetery as often listed on web sites.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gRB.2ACE/831.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you! Yes, I just found it, I just got information that my family was actually from Palintine and Oppenheim, not sure who was from Broadalbin as I didn't recognize any names in the records. I did find a John McCLary b. Broadalbin in about 1850 who is buried in Amsterdam. This is what I do know........... My Ancestor Alva McCrary as born about 1811-1816 in Montgomery, NY His father was Jacob McCrary and his Grandather was John McCrary, I do not know where John came from or what has happened to the other siblings in the family. 1820 census, Montgomery County, Town of Oppenheim Jacob McCrary -1 male, 16-26 years old 3 females, under 10 years old 1 female, 16-26 years old 1810 census, Montgomery County, town of Upenheim John McCrary-1 male, 16-25 years old 1 male, 45 or older 2 females, under 10 1 female, 10-15 years old 1 female, 26-44 years old Township of Oppenheim is located in what is now Fulton County, and just west of the town of Gloversville on state route 29. John McCRARY b. mid 1700?. He is mentioned in the KLOCK papers as buying a conoe and some other things in Montgomery County (now Fulton) about 1795. he had a son named Jacob McCRARY b.late 1700's. Lived also same place, next door to Mr. PETTYBONE and Mr. YONKERS. John McCrary (Spelled Macreny in the St. Johns Church Records) Page 83 1793 Parentes John Macreny, Palatine, Christina Macreny; 22th 8bris Infantes Margretha, born the 27th Novb. 1784; Sally, born the 28th Novbr. 1787; Eva, born the 14th Januar; Testes Peter Ris, Elisabeth Stamm; Andreas Palsli, Lea Palsli. His Son Jacob McCRARY m. 1st Nancy? had son Alva b.1816 Montgomery County. (now Fulton CO.) Jacob m. 2nd Roxy BARNES One of Alva McCrary's sister married a Keeler. They may have moved to Mindenville. It would be interested in marriage records, Birth Records, Land records. 1830 Census records? Any information is appreciated. From Michigan Best Regards kurt

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gRB.2ACE/831.1.1 Message Board Post: The USGenWeb site for New York/Fulton County/Broadalbin has lists of the "inhabitants" of about 20 cemeteries in Broadalbin.