I am having a terrible time trying to locate my William HOLMES who is said to have lived in Town of Malone in 1869-70, give or take a few years. He was a dentist according to the info I have. Were there City Directories for Malone back then? If so, is there someone on the list who could do a lookup for me? I have looked in the NY Census for Franklin Co. and he's not there. If anyone can suggest another way to search for this elusive ancestor, I'm all ears :-). Thanks... Jackie j1029@webtv.net

-----Original Message----- From: Edith Bailes [mailto:edieb@hypernet.com] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:22 PM To: NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb. com Cc: NYFRANLK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Books of Plattsburgh area history First I'd like to thank all the people on this board who have been so helpful to me. I really appreciate it and hope I can reciprocate somehow, because now I've got another favor to ask! Can anyone recommend any published or unpublished books, letters, diaries, memoirs etc. dealing with the Plattsburgh area and its history? I need to check as many sources as I can find, for a book I am working on. I have seen the following: History of Clinton and Franklin Counties (author's name escapes me at the moment) "Three Centuries in Champlain Valley" by Jeannette TUTTLE "Briefly Told" by Allan S. EVEREST "Historical Sketches of the Town of Plattsburgh 1785 - 1975" "Chazy and the Revolution" by David Kendall Martin I'm sure there are more. Peter Sailly PALMER's works, plus others. I think there's a history of Chazy, but I haven't been able to find it. - What is particularly good and reliable as to fact? What are your favorites? Where are they likely to be found (some may not be available on Interlibrary Loan)? Please feel free to email me off list if this is considered off-topic. Thanks again everybody - Edie in Maine

In a message dated 12/7/2001 7:32:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, AdirondackR@aol.com writes: > Deer River is near the Canadian border, as well as near Malone, NY in > Franklin County. > > > > You must be referring to an actual river above, because the Hamlet of Deer > River is on Rt. 26, 4 miles south of Carthage. > >

There is a place called "Deer River Flow" located just south of Malone on Route 30, in the a town of Duane. Any vital records for this area would probably be located with the Duane Town Clerk or in the Courthouse at Malone. Malone is the County seat of Franklin County. It depends on the dates whether you'll have and luck finding records. Some of the smaller towns didn't have the best of record keeping and there are lots of holes in the records as the result of this. Carmon D. Rust ===== Genealogists check out my web page at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/u/s/Carmon-D-Rust-NY/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Deer River is near the Canadian border, as well as near Malone, NY in Franklin County.

In a message dated 12/6/2001 10:47:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, katcamp@mediaone.net writes: > > Is there a place in Franklin County called "Deer River"? I was told that my > ggggrandmother died there. I can't find it on any of the maps, nor can I > find it in my French's atlas. > > Deer River is probably considered a Hamlet in New York State, as it is very small and about 20 miles due east of Watertown, but, I believe, in Lewis County. Mac

Is there a place in Franklin County called "Deer River"? I was told that my ggggrandmother died there. I can't find it on any of the maps, nor can I find it in my French's atlas. Thanks. kathy

I found in the 1870 Census a Horatio BRUNSON, aged 53, who lives with his brother, Michael BRUNSON, aged 60, in Westville, Franklin County. Both men were born in Canada. Does anyone know who their parents were? Could their mother have been named Catherine. I also found Horatio in the 1860 census, aged 32, living with a Catherine BRUNSON, aged 75, who I would assume to be his mother. Can anyone tell me about these two men? I am pretty sure that they are first cousins to my great-grandfather, James BRUNSON. Thank you. Kathy Campbell

I am looking for information on John Wesley NICHOLS who was born in Malone, Franklin, NY and his wife Lovica ALLEND who was born in Moor's Fork, NY. They were both probably born between 1850-1860. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Sharon Valdez

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Hello all, I'm looking for anyone who has access to the Franklin County Courthouse. Last time I was up that way I never thought to go there! It was a long time ago and I was just starting out in my research. To make a long story short, I'm looking to see if there are any documents pertaining to a few individuals I've been researching for the last 12 years. Either in probate, land deeds, or Naturalization records. I'm willing to pay for the usual costs; copies, postage (if needed), etc. Have already gone through vital records, so do not need anything like that. Please email me directly, and I'll give names & dates and exactly I'm looking for. There are only a handful of individuals I'm looking for. Thanks! jj.bedard@verizon.net Photo Gallery Webpage http://www.bedardphoto.com

Thank you for the location of Moria, NY...now the real mystery is just what happened to Raphael Viau's (VEO) brother..Ludger...Jed?.. lo and behold, I find out he married in Canada abt 1859 to Sarah------ who was also Canadian...They came to malone about 1860 from St. Remi... They had a son John born 1870 in Malone and then the whole family moved to Whitinsville, MA to work in the mills...They are shown in the 1880 MA census as VEO with 4 children...Mary, Moses, Josephine, and John. Does anybody have a line on what happend to this long lost line of cousins? Social Security death index shows some VEO in Hudson, MA , Nantucket and Califorinia...Internet shows about 18 VEO in MA today...and 5 in CA. TG

Here is our Malone NY connection: Angenor/ Genor P. R. VIAU [b. ca. 30 Nov 1847 St. Rémi?, (now) Napierville Co. Québec - d. 28 Dec 1903 Menominee, Menominee Co MI]. He was the son of Raphael Pierre VIAU and Florence LEFEBVRE. On 1 Jan 1870, in Malone, Franklin Co NY, Angenor married Estée/Esther /Mina/ Minna BOYER [b.18 May 1841? /1851? Plattsburgh, Clinton Co NY; d. 21 Feb 1935, Beloit, Rock Co WI]. She was the daughter of Israel BOYER and his 2nd wife, Adelaide/ Adeline PETELLE / PETEL. Approximate birth order of the children of Angenor VIAU & Esther/ Minna BOYER: 1. Mina D / Marie Leonia VIAU [b. 11 Mar/May 1872 Malone NY; d. unknown]; mar. 18 Nov 1886 Marinette WI to Stanislas/ Denis AMBROSE. Both are buried in Forest Home Cem., Marinette, Marinette Co WI. 4 children. 2. Nellie VIAU b. 1872/73; d. at 6 mos. of age. 3. Genor R. VIAU [b.13 Feb 18__ Malone NY; d. 14 Jun 1939 WI?]; mar. 27 Jun 1900 Menominee, Menominee Co MI to Edmere GERVAIS / JERVAIS. No known children. 4. Margaret /Maggie VIAU [b. 23 Dec 1874 Malone NY; d. unknown]; mar. date & place unknown, to George Williams. Both are buried in Calvary Cem., Beloit, Rock Co WI. 4 children. 5. Dora VIAU [b. 21 Sept 1876 Malone NY; d. 5 Dec 1939 Tacoma WA]; mar. 14 Sept 1896 Marinette WI to Chester /Chet SHIELDS. 1 son. 6. Rose Anne VIAU [b. 12/ 22 Sept 1877 Malone NY; d. unknown.] 7. Theodore Magloire VIAU [b. 24/27 Nov 1879 Malone NY; d. unknown.] 8. Michael S. VIAU [b. Jan/ Feb 1880 Malone NY; d unknown, probably as infant or child.] 9. Cora VIAU [b. 20 Dec 1882; d unknown]; mar. 1 May 1900 to Henry BEAUDRY. 2 children. 10. Marinette / Nettie VIAU [b. 24 Jul 1884 Marinette WI; d. 20 Dec 1961 Fond du Lac, Fond du Lac Co WI]; mar. 15 Oct 1902 Menominee MI to Julius Ferdinand / Fern GLASSEL. 4 children. 11. Florence Louise VIAU [b.22 Aug 1886 Marinette WI; d. 23 Jun 1975 Rock Co WI]; mar.1) to unknown; mar.2) 23 Apr 1913 to "Doc" John Atkinson; mar.3) 25 Sept 1915 to Jack JOHNSON; mar.4) 21 Jul 1921 to William HALLAUER; mar.5) 4 Nov 1939 to John REISINGER of Milwaukee WI. 1 child d. infancy. 12. Mose / Moise VIAU [b. 15 Jan 1887/1888, probably Marinette WI or Menominee MI; d. 27 Dec 1941.] Not married, no known children. 13. Pearl R. VIAU [b. 12 Aug 1889; d. unknown]; mar.1) 26 Aug 1918 to Alfred SEUBERT; mar.2) 25 Feb 1933 to Thomas ROBARGE. Not sure, may have had some step-children. 14. Mary Adelaide VIAU [b. 2 Aug 1891; d. 3 Jan 1942]; mar. 5 Sept 1920 to George PARKINSON; res. Milwaukee WI. 2 or 3 children. This VIAU family moved to the Marinette WI / Menominee MI area in about 1882, due to the relocation of one of the Prescott Companies, and joining their BOYER / BOYEA relatives. When the VIAUs arrived, Grampa Israel BOYER had a new puppy waiting, to make them feel at home. We welcome any corrections, questions, suggestions or additions to this information. And we would love to hear from any cousins old or new. Tom & Barb Glassel

> Where is Moira NY? > Barb, Moira is about 10 miles west of Malone. Rikki http://www.prosserhome.homestead.com

To clarify: Even though a PETTEE family may have English or Irish roots, some officials, clergymen, etc. may have spelled it PETTIT because that may have been a more familiar spelling to them, if they were around/from French-Canadian or Acadian areas.... Barb G

Jack & other PETTEE researchers: Hope you are checking alternate spellings, since PETTEE & PETTIT would be pronounced exactly the same. Many PETTIT in old Québec province....probably today too. Where is Moira NY? Good luck, Barb Glassel

Hi Listers, I am trying to find more information on a PETTEE family who settled in Moira, NY. They also lived in other areas of Franklin and St. Lawrence Co. Their names were James and Mary/Polly PETTEE. They relocated to NY from VT after 1830. The record I have states they also lived in Bucks Bridge and Potsdam. I'm not sure which county Bucks Bridge is in. I have their dates of death as June 17, 1851 and March 31, 1852 respectively, but do not know the location or where they are buried. If anyone can help here I would appreciate it. This couple had a son, James PETTEE jr. who m. Sally OTIS June June 9, 1822. I do not know where this marriage took place but suspect VT. This couple is shown in the 1840 Moira census with 1 male 15/20 and 2 females 10/15. If anyone can tell me the names of these children or if there were more children born to this couple, that too would be much appreciated. My information tells me this couple also lived in Brush's Mills and that James was a blacksmith. I have found their dates of death and know they are both buried in Sunnyside Cemetery, Brushton, New York. I do not know which town they died in. James and Mary Polly Pettee also had a daughter, Mary-Polly who married John Cooper and this couple lived in Moira. They had the following children born in NY, but I do not know the place: Olive L. Cooper b. July 10, 1831 Sarah-Sally G. Cooper b. Aug 10, 1834 Royal J. Cooper,, b. July 14, 1839 Elizabeth L. Cooper, b. Aug 10, 1842 George A. Cooper b. June 12, 1847 Three older children were probably b. VT are: James Metcalf Cooper, b. Apr 8, 1825 Mary Cooper, b. July 5 1827 Clarissa Maria Cooper b. March 26, 1829 I do know this Cooper family relocated to JoDavies Co. IL and show their in the 1860 census, but many of these children may have married and stayed in the NY area. Any help with them also appreciated. Thanks for any help any of can give, Jack Pettee Researching PETTEE, SINNOTT, BEATTY, & JACKSON WILLIAMS Visit the Family at http://www.PetteeFamily.org/ Visit my Model Railroad at http://www.PetteeFamily.org/railroad

It would be where ever it was probated. Sometimes people recorded wills. I think you would do well to check both places. But all wills aren't probated. Alice Corbett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edith Bailes" <edieb@hypernet.com> To: <NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:15 PM Subject: Wills, location of In New York State, when a resident and property owner in one county (Franklin) dies in another New York State county, in which county would I look for a copy of the will? I hope someone can answer this for me - Thanks - Edie ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

In New York State, when a resident and property owner in one county (Franklin) dies in another New York State county, in which county would I look for a copy of the will? I hope someone can answer this for me - Thanks - Edie

Does anyone on this list know who administers/owns this cemetery? I'd like to get permission before I go poke around there, as I'd rather not get shot. Thanks - :>) Edie