Hi Bobbi, I checked my resources and could not come up with anything on DEGOWAN, GOWING, OR GOWIN. What nationality is this surname? Could it be Scottish? If so, could it be spelled MCCOWAN or MCGOWAN? Sorry I couldn't help. Carol _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Hi Julie, I checked my resources for the COLBURN, COBURN, & COLBRON spellings you gave and came up with zero. I also did not find any with the surname RIED or REID. I did, however, find several VALADE individuals in Glengarry, Ontario. Many of the marriages are circa early 1900's. But here a couple that are in the 1800's. Abraham VALADE m. Meline LALONDE, St. Raphael's, AUG 30, 1880. Abraham's parents: Moses VALADE & Julia VERDUN, de: Charlottenburg. Meline's parents: John LALONDE & Margy ANDRE, de: Charlotteburg (two different spellings of location) Perhaps Abraham is a brother to your Eulie VALADE. They married within one year of each other. Just a GENguess. Do you know the names of Eulie's parents? I can search further if you have their names. There are several VALADE's in the Tanguay, but we're talking about the 1700's and I need names to search there. Telesphore VALADE m. Melitime ANDRE, St. Raphael's, FEB 25, 1884. Telesphore's parents: Moise VALADE & Julie VERDON. Melitime's parents: Stephen ANDRE & Judith CIDOLITES. Hope this helps you. I'm searching the NESBITT, NESBIT, & NISBET lines. Also MCCOUCHIN, MCCOUCKIN, MCCOSHEN, MCCASHIN. Roy MCCOUCHIN and Elisabeth NESBITT were born circa 1810-1818 in Scotland I believe. I believe they were in Frankstown (Vinton) around 1845. Their daughter, Jane (or Mary Jane) MCCOUCHIN, MCCOSHEN was born JAN 1845 in Canada. Jane married Adolphe PEPIN JUN 25, 1867, Calumet, Quebec. The MCCOUCHIN/NESBITT line is my major brickwall. I don't expect to find them in NY, but who knows. Carol _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Hello, I am researching the family name of DeGowin, it may have been spelled Gowing or Gowin before the "DE" was added. They came from Canada and settled in Franklin County, The Malone, Fort Covington, Westville areas some time around the the late 1830's to early 1840's. There were four brothers in all, Richard, Moses, William and Henry. When they first arrived they went to live and work on a farm that was owned by a Mr. Wright or Rice of Ft. Covington. If any one has any information on this family or where I may obtain any other information on them, I would greatly appreciate your help. Thanking you in advance Bobbi

Hi, Bobbi.... I may or may not have a bit of information that may help. Please let us know if you are aware of: 1. Henry and William's civil war service? Henry's wounds? 2. Their DOBs? Their residence in Constable, NY? 3. William's mother was Mary Kingville; father was Richard DeGowin? 4. Richard's marriage to Nancy Perry in1847? Spinal curvature...was this the same Richard? 5. In 1890, Henry in Malone; William in Constable? If some or all of this is news to you, post on the list or email me. Regards, Brauck. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Misyrose@aol.com> To: <NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 2:01 AM Subject: Degowin Franklin County > Hello, > I am researching the family name of DeGowin, it may have been spelled Gowing > or Gowin before the "DE" was added. They came from Canada and settled in > Franklin County, The Malone, Fort Covington, Westville areas some time around > the the late 1830's to early 1840's. There were four brothers in all, > Richard, Moses, William and Henry. When they first arrived they went to live > and work on a farm that was owned by a Mr. Wright or Rice of Ft. Covington. > > If any one has any information on this family or where I may obtain any other > information on them, I would greatly appreciate your help. > > Thanking you in advance > Bobbi > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am searching for information on my gg-grandfather who was Clement Colburn/Coburn/Colbron. He was married to Marguerite Reid and had a son Alexander who married Eulalie Valade at Ste. Martine, Quebec Feb 10, 1879.I found a vague reference to Clement and his family in Fort Covington and Malone. I would greatly appreciate any info about his family. I believe Clement could be placed in that are in the mid 1800s. Thanks Julie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Hi, Julie... A couple of possibilities: COLBURN, Margaret buried 1916 Section S Pine Ridge Cemetery - Additions 1 Saranac Lake (North Elba), Essex County, New York NOTES: These additions to the Pine Ridge Cemetery were recorded by Betty Pratt of the Saranac Lake Genealogical Society and entered by Ralph W. Bennett. The preceding names, death dates, and sections are from burial records only. No monuments, stones, or markers exist. Some of the listed names do not have a death date. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Julie, the following researcher is looking for both REID and COBURN in northern NY and Canada: Sharon McGovern Konetzki SharonK153@AOL.COM . (I am not researching either family. I just happened to be looking for MY names in Franklin County and I noted your message to the List.) Good luck, Brauck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie soto" <jarjoned79@hotmail.com> To: <NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: Coburns/Colburns Fort Covington > > I am searching for information on my gg-grandfather who was Clement > Colburn/Coburn/Colbron. He was married to Marguerite Reid and had a son > Alexander who married Eulalie Valade at Ste. Martine, Quebec Feb 10, 1879.I > found a vague reference to Clement and his family in Fort Covington and > Malone. I would greatly appreciate any info about his family. I believe > Clement could be placed in that are in the mid 1800s. > > Thanks Julie > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, Just a few days ago someone posted a query on the name Riel, as I had no information, deleted the mail. HOWEVER, today in reviewing journals from NY found a whole bunch of data on Riel families in upstate NY, will gladly share if that person contacts me. Regards, Andree Florida

Hi, I think I saw the name Riel on the St.Lawrence-L@rootsweb.com in Uew York. Rosemary -----Original Message----- From: Andree Routledge <Aroutl@cfl.rr.com> To: NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com <NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:42 AM Subject: Riel lines >Hi, >Just a few days ago someone posted a query on the name Riel, as I had no information, deleted the mail. >HOWEVER, today in reviewing journals from NY found a whole bunch of data on Riel families in upstate NY, will gladly share if that person contacts me. >Regards, >Andree >Florida > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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Hi to all -- and Barbara Menchin in particular -- Just another point of clarification -- there is a town of Franklin, in Franklin County in upper New York State. Ida (Originally from the Town of Franklin, Franklin County, NY) > Franklin, NY--the town/city--is in Delaware County, I believe. Between > Oneonta and Binghamton, bordering on Pennsylvania. > Franklin, NY--the COUNTY--is in far northern New York State, bordering > Canada. > > > Am new to this list. Not even sure if I am on the right list but thought > I would give this a try first. Am looking for ALICE BROWN born abt 1856 in > Franklin, NY. She married William B. Hurlburt of Washington, CT Any help > anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Barbara Menchin > > > > ______________________________

Hi, Ida... Where is it? I have the following directions to a cemetery...but that's all. Basin Cemetery Franklin, Franklin County, New York DIRECTIONS: From NY Route 3 in Vermontville turn onto the Cold Brook road until you intersect with Fletcher Farm Road to Franklin Falls Road. Turn right onto the Franklin Falls Road, continuing until you reach the Franklin Falls Bridge. Turn left at the bridge. The cemetery is .6 miles from the bridge on a logging road on the right hand side of the road. COORDINATES: N440 26.325' W 0730 57.832' Do you have a town/city government address or telephone number? Thanks, Brauck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ida Ransom" <iransom@earthling.net> To: <brauck@bigfoot.com>; <NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 2:23 PM Subject: Re: ALICE BROWN? > Hi to all -- and Barbara Menchin in particular -- > > Just another point of clarification -- there is a town of Franklin, in > Franklin County in upper New York State. > > Ida > (Originally from the Town of Franklin, Franklin County, NY) > > > Franklin, NY--the town/city--is in Delaware County, I believe. Between > > Oneonta and Binghamton, bordering on Pennsylvania. > > Franklin, NY--the COUNTY--is in far northern New York State, bordering > > Canada. > > > > > > Am new to this list. Not even sure if I am on the right list but > thought > > I would give this a try first. Am looking for ALICE BROWN born abt 1856 in > > Franklin, NY. She married William B. Hurlburt of Washington, CT Any help > > anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Barbara Menchin > > > > > > > ______________________________ >

There is also a Franklin Falls, Franklin County, NY that was populated about that time and a little before.......Bob

Hi, Barbara.... Welcome aboard!! Franklin, NY--the town/city--is in Delaware County, I believe. Between Oneonta and Binghamton, bordering on Pennsylvania. Franklin, NY--the COUNTY--is in far northern New York State, bordering Canada. Pleas let us know which. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank/Barbara" <rikki@aspi.net> To: <NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 5:43 AM Subject: ALICE BROWN? > Hello, > Am new to this list. Not even sure if I am on the right list but thought I would give this a try first. Am looking for ALICE BROWN born abt 1856 in Franklin, NY. She married William B. Hurlburt of Washington, CT Any help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. > > Barbara Menchin >

Hello, Am new to this list. Not even sure if I am on the right list but thought I would give this a try first. Am looking for ALICE BROWN born abt 1856 in Franklin, NY. She married William B. Hurlburt of Washington, CT Any help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Barbara Menchin

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Hi - this evening, messages to the Clinton County board have bounced for me. Is it jsut me, or is anybody else having problems? Thanks - Edie in Maine

Marty, your request for help on cemetery law made the Franklin County rootsweb list. The New York State Department of State regulates cemeteries, and you can find significant resources online at http://www.dos.state.ny.us/cmty/cemetery.html. You will also find a contact number there that should be able to help you. -- Carl Johnson cjohnson@nycap.rr.com http://home.nycap.rr.com/cjohnson Researching Peck, Johnson, Cath, Goodrich, Crisalle in Franklin, Essex, and Schenectady Counties, NY

Looking for anyone who has a Theodore Barber, who married a Mary Fisher in Franklin County, NY in their lines? Thanks! jj.bedard@verizon.net Photo Gallery Webpage http://www.bedardphoto.com

--part1_31.205e4f3b.29652fec_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_31.205e4f3b.29652fec_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <NYONONDA-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (rly-xb04.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.105]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINXB43-0102180141; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:01:41 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (v83.18) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB41-0102180129; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:01:29 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g02MumL28773; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:56:48 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:56:48 -0700 X-Original-Sender: k2mi@frontiernet.net Wed Jan 2 15:56:47 2002 Message-ID: <3C338FDF.C05F25F1@frontiernet.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 17:55:27 -0500 From: Marty Irons <k2mi@frontiernet.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: "LIST - Madison Co." <nymadiso-l@rootsweb.com>, "LIST - Oneida Co." <nyoneida-l@rootsweb.com>, "LIST - Onondaga Co." <nyononda-l@rootsweb.com>, "LIST - Orange Co." <nyorange-l@rootsweb.com>, "LIST - Otsego Co." <nyotsego-l@rootsweb.com>, "LIST - Rensselaer Co." <nyrensse-l@rootsweb.com>, LIST - Saratoga County <nysarato-l@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [NYOnonda] Need cemetery laws ASAP Resent-Message-ID: <uiUQSC.A.rAH.vA5M8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2750 X-Loop: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NYONONDA-L-request@rootsweb.com The Town of Goshen NY needs legal precedents that currently protect abandoned family graveyards in other areas of NY state. An old family graveyard in the Town of Goshen NY has been desecrated by new owners. Three members of Orange County Genealogical Society went to the town board meeting on Dec 13th. The owners' attorney insists they did nothing illegal. The town attorney requested help from anyone who can provide him with contacts with other town boards/town attorneys in NY state where a law protecting private cemeteries is currently in effect. That is, he wants one or more legal precedents to use in formulation of a similar law in the Town of Goshen. Can you help? If so, please send name, address, phone number, e-mail, whatever you've got of contact people who can provide copies of >>>EXISTING<<< local ordinances that protect private cemeteries to me. I'll make sure they get to the right people. So that I don't get a flood of off-subject messages, please reply only if you can help the Goshen town attorney obtain COPIES of existing ordinances. Anything less than copies that can be cited as legal precedents will not help. Thanks and happy new year to all! Marty Irons Goshen NY --part1_31.205e4f3b.29652fec_boundary--

In the book, 'Genealogy and Family History of the State of New Hampshire' edited by Ezra Stearns in 1908 there is a reference (vol. 4, p.420) to Edgar Alvah ELLSWORTH stating he was born in 'Can.,NY' in 192?. Does anyone have access to this book or know about Edgar's family? All help is greatly appreciated. Carolyn Langford Ontario