In 1865 it's doubtful! If you can find exactly where they were married you may find an entry in a ledger though. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Harrison To: NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: [NYFRANKL] Marriage in Hogansburg I believe my great great grandparents, Israel Hugh Sauve and Rose LaFleur dit Lecompte were married in Hogansburg in 1865. Would a marriage from this date be available in the civil records ? If so where can I obtain a copy of the record ? Michael mjharrison@idirect.com

> From: Brian1956@aol.com > Date: January 12, 2004 7:06:21 PM EST > To: NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYFRANKL] Westville - Historical Soc. & Book > > > Does the new Westville Historical Organization have a web site? > Anyway to > contact?? Does anyone know about the new Westville book, as > mentioned in a > Plattsburgh newspaper article within the last few months? > Thanks, Brian Your best contact would be tobiass@westelcom.com Here's her post from the Franklin County Forum found at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec? htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.franklin > Westville > Author: Susan Tobias > Date: 31 Dec 2003 3:04 AM GMT > > The Westville Historical Organization has for sale a newly published > journal by Clara Clark Wright, detailing her memories of living at > Westville Center when a young girl, ca. 1880-1900. It is about 65 > pages, many pictures of the old one room schoolhouse, the grist mill, > butter factory, church, etc. They are for sale at $18.95 plus mailing > of $2 by contacting the town historian, Jean Goddard, at > lgoddard@twcny.rr.com. The first printing was 200 and only 21 are left > as of this date. A second printing is being considered. > Good luck! Joyce Visit my Franklin County Tombstone Transcription site at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~frgen/index.htm

> From: "Richard C. Randt" <rcrandt@comcast.net> > Date: January 12, 2004 12:24:17 PM EST > To: NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYFRANKL] A Franklin Co. Death ca. 1871-74 > > > This is admittedly a long shot and I don't normally do genealogy this > way. However, I thought I'd try this approach as a last resort. I > have > a great-grandfather, b. July 1835 in French Canada. His father brought > the family across into New York ca. 1839. They were raised in the > Malone to Chateaugay area of Franklin Co. Francis Bell, the > great-grandfather in question, is said by family story, to have died > (presumably of a heart attack) "while running to catch a train." The > 1870 census has him living in Chateaugay. By the birth dates of his > children and the children by his widow's second marriage, death most > likely would have occurred between 1871 and 1874. > > If anyone scanning newspapers of the area, or other resources, for the > time frame mentioned, should come across an unexpected, public death of > a relatively young man, about 40 or less, named Frank or Francis Bell, > I'd appreciate hearing from you. Frank was married to a Mary Martin. > Both Frank and his father-in-law, Timothy Martin, had served in the > Union Army during the Civil War. > > Dick Randt > Ellicott City, MD > Thanks to the transcriber, Kelly Townsend, St. Patrick's Burial Records can be found on my web site at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~frgen/chateaugay/ st_patricksburials/st_patricksburials1.htm She lists the following: Lot 130 Benjamin Bell Pd $2, $1, $2, corpse removed Nov 1863 Francis Bell, age 72 yrs, died 18 Aug 1864, buried 20 Aug 1864 Florence, age 8 mo, died 24 Mar 1867, buried 26 Mar 1867 Victoire Cure, age 15 days, died 31 Mar 1867, buried 2 Apr 1867 Philomena Martine, age 20y 4m 6d, died 30 Apr 1867, buried 1 May 1867 Benjamin Bell, age 10 mo, died 1 Feb 1869, buried 2 Feb 1869 Theophile Patnode, age 8 mo, died 16 Feb 1875, buried18 Feb 1875 Charles Martine, age 3 mo, died 26 Aug 1870 Francis Bell, age 33 yrs, died 3 Feb 1871, buried 5 Feb 1871 Benjamin Bell, age 46 yrs, died 9 May 1875, buried 11 May 1875 Mary Alice Martine, age 3 wks, died 6 Sep 1878, buried 8 Sep 1878 Good luck in your search. Joyce

I am trying to find what happened to two sisters, Sophronia ("Harriet") and Mary L Parks Lukes. Sophronia was born about 1832 and Mary was born in 1837. Mary married Cyrus Lukes but not long after their marriage he was killed in the Civil War. In the 1880 Census, the sisters were alive and were living together, possibly in a home inherited from their father, Aaron Parks (he is buried in Irish Street Cemetery with his wife and another child, Orinda), in Constable. Thanks, Cheryl Morris

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~frgen/chateaugay/st_patricksburials/st_patricksburials.htm There are two listings for Francis Bell in the above cemetery index. _________________________________________________________________ Find out everything you need to know about Las Vegas here for that getaway. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/vivalasvegas.armx

Timothy Martin had a CW Pension that was managed by Benj Bell. Could not find Francis or Frank Bell pension file. Have you written for the CW Pension files. While Rev War Documents are formal, the War of 1812 and CW have a lot of gossip in them. In one of our relatives file one of the witnesses says "I heard his father Jerome tell him ....." This is the only mention of the fathers name that the family has found in over 75 years of research. Suggest if you haven't written for them that you do. Errol and Valerie Cross Home Page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ecross/Index.htm

In a message dated 1/12/04 12:26:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, rcrandt@comcast.net writes: > They were raised in the > Malone to Chateaugay area of Franklin Co. Francis Bell, the > great-grandfather in question, is said by family story, to have died > I am just wondering if you have checked the records from St. Patricks Church in Chateaugay. The church had a cemetary connected to it and tis cemetery can be found bdoing a search on Pico for St. Patricks buraials Tim TMurnane77@aol.com

Does the new Westville Historical Organization have a web site? Anyway to contact?? Does anyone know about the new Westville book, as mentioned in a Plattsburgh newspaper article within the last few months? Thanks, Brian

Dick, A few years ago, I read microfilm rolls at the Family History Center that had data from the old Malone Palladium and Malone Farmer Newspapers. It was an easy film to read and had vital statistics. The Film Number was 1697719 and had about 6 rolls. You may find something there, as I remember seeing death notices etc. It's hard to find anything in newsprint from that era in Malone. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard C. Randt To: NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:24 AM Subject: [NYFRANKL] A Franklin Co. Death ca. 1871-74 This is admittedly a long shot and I don't normally do genealogy this way. However, I thought I'd try this approach as a last resort. I have a great-grandfather, b. July 1835 in French Canada. His father brought the family across into New York ca. 1839. They were raised in the Malone to Chateaugay area of Franklin Co. Francis Bell, the great-grandfather in question, is said by family story, to have died (presumably of a heart attack) "while running to catch a train." The 1870 census has him living in Chateaugay. By the birth dates of his children and the children by his widow's second marriage, death most likely would have occurred between 1871 and 1874. If anyone scanning newspapers of the area, or other resources, for the time frame mentioned, should come across an unexpected, public death of a relatively young man, about 40 or less, named Frank or Francis Bell, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Frank was married to a Mary Martin. Both Frank and his father-in-law, Timothy Martin, had served in the Union Army during the Civil War. Dick Randt Ellicott City, MD

This is admittedly a long shot and I don't normally do genealogy this way. However, I thought I'd try this approach as a last resort. I have a great-grandfather, b. July 1835 in French Canada. His father brought the family across into New York ca. 1839. They were raised in the Malone to Chateaugay area of Franklin Co. Francis Bell, the great-grandfather in question, is said by family story, to have died (presumably of a heart attack) "while running to catch a train." The 1870 census has him living in Chateaugay. By the birth dates of his children and the children by his widow's second marriage, death most likely would have occurred between 1871 and 1874. If anyone scanning newspapers of the area, or other resources, for the time frame mentioned, should come across an unexpected, public death of a relatively young man, about 40 or less, named Frank or Francis Bell, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Frank was married to a Mary Martin. Both Frank and his father-in-law, Timothy Martin, had served in the Union Army during the Civil War. Dick Randt Ellicott City, MD

Dear List, I need to obtain possible obituaries for the following individuals: James MULVANEY, died 11 May 1892 in Bombay, Franklin, New York Catherine (Katy) MULVANEY, died 14 Mar 1900 in Bombay, Franklin, New York John MULVANEY, died 19 Oct 1890 in Bombay, Franklin, New York Any assistance is appreciated. Or perhaps I would like to know which newspaper to search at the time so I may request it via ILL. Willing to pay for time and expenses. Sincerely, Geoff Rasmussen geoffr@graonline.com

Brauck, When I said "Registry", I was referring to the data that they have complied. You can go to the National DAR site and they will look in their Patriot Index at no charge. The web address is: http://www.dar.org/natsociety/pi_lookup.cfm. If you know where your ancestor lived when he joined the Army or Militia you may find additional data from the local DAR there. Mac

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharmac Villa" <moonandsixpence@verizon.net> To: <NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [NYFRANKL] Morningside Cemetery Sexton? > When you are looking for a person that you believe to be a Revolutionary War Veteran, always check the D.A.R. Registry. They probably have the most information on this topic. > Mac Hi, Mac... Could you please be more specific? I went to the DAR website >http://www.dar.org/default.cfm< , used their main search engine for "registry". Nothing resulted. Please give us the URL for the registry...or at least the section on that website wherein the Vets may be listed. Many thanks, Brauck.

When you are looking for a person that you believe to be a Revolutionary War Veteran, always check the D.A.R. Registry. They probably have the most information on this topic. Mac

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Morris" <camorris@mars.ark.com> To: <NYFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: [NYFRANKL] Morningside Cemetery Sexton? > Does anyone know if there is a Sexton or burial records maintained by > anyone for Morningside Cemetery in Malone? Yes, Cheryl, there are records. At: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~frgen/ . However: > I am looking for the burial of a Revolutionary War veteran whose grave has > not yet been identified--Aaron Parks. His wife, Rebecca is buried in > Morningside (she died in 1846) and we know he died later--but not the exact > date or place. Your "Aaron" has been transcribed as "Laron," I do believe. He is listed at his wife Rebecca's grave in Section E. There are other "Parks" in Morningside, as well. Good Luck, Brauck.

Does anyone know if there is a Sexton or burial records maintained by anyone for Morningside Cemetery in Malone? I am looking for the burial of a Revolutionary War veteran whose grave has not yet been identified--Aaron Parks. His wife, Rebecca is buried in Morningside (she died in 1846) and we know he died later--but not the exact date or place. Thanks, Cheryl

I am looking for information on the following people: Jesse Russell b. Canada married Mannett??both born in Canada Son, William Russell born March 5, 1831 married Angeline Rock, b/ Oct 12, 1834: both born in Canada Children are Amelia Russell b. June 24, 1865 George Russell b. September 11, 1863 Angeline Russell b. Aug 26 1869 Bertha Russell born abt 1867 Ella Russell b. about 1875 Edward Russell born about 1877 William Russell born about 1851 Henry Russell born about 1854 Would like to know if there are other children and more on dates of birth,death and marriages.I found them in NY census records for : In 1860 Wm Russell found in: Census Microfilm Records: New York, 1860 Age: 29 Gender: M Race: W Birthplace: CANA State: New York County: ST LAWRENCE Locale: PARISHVILLE Series: M653 Roll: 855 Part: 1 Page: 935 also, EdwWilliam Russell found in: Census Microfilm Records: New York, 1870 Age: 38 Gender: M Race: W Birthplace: CANA State: New York County: FRANKLIN Locale: MOIRA , Brushton Mills PO Series: M593 Roll: 937 Part: 1 Page: 756A June 28, 1870 Russell, William, 38, male, farmer, $700 (value of RE), $300 (value of Personal), b. Canada ", Angeline, 35, female, keeping house, b. Canada ", Henry, 15, male, at home, b. NY ", Eli, 12, male, at home, b. NY ", Alfred, 9, male, at home, b. NY ", George, 6, male, at home, b. NY ", Amelia, 5,, female, at home, b. NY ", Mary, 2, female, at home, b. NY ", Angeline, 10/12, female, at home, b. NY Census Records; Taken 11 June 1880; Moira, Franklin County, New York Russel, Wm Len, white male age 48, Farmer, born New York, parents born Canada ",Angeline, white female, wife, age 45, Keeping House, born New York, parents born Canada And Edward Lord who married Helen May Remick (Helen was born Oct 2 1889). I have no information on the Lord side but would love to add some to my data base.. I'd appreciate any information Thanks! "Death is but crossing the world, as friends do the seas. They live in one another still." William Penn --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003

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Hi: I am looking for someone who is able to access either a death record, information on it, or a newspaper account of this person's death. Nancy FROST born about 1787? VT married a James SARGENT/SARGEANT 12 Apr 1810 Brattleboro, Windham Co., VT Nancy SARGENT married Luther DICKINSON 20 Feb 1827 Brattleboro, VT Luther had married ________about 1810 a 1st wife Luther married Betsey FROST 26 Feb 1818 Brattleboro. Betsey died 4 Sept 1826 So. Bangor Luther married Nancy Sargent...as above... Luther and Nancy DICKINSON died in Bangor, Franklin Co., NY and are buried in Keeler Hill Cemetery, as well as Betsey The subject I am having the most trouble with is Nancy Frost Sargent Dickinson. Nancy DICKINSON died 12 Nov 1871 in Bangor, NY I am looking for any mention of her parents or previous marriages to verify what I have. If anyone is interested in the Dickinson, Frost, or Sargent families, I will be glad to help. I live in the Brattleboro area and can access cemeteries, vital records etc. Thank you very much. Marge Howe

Am willing to do Chicago IL Tribune obit lookups in trade for obit lookups that I need. I need obit lookups for the following Montague, Hibbard N d) 04/09/1855 in NY-Burke, Franklin Co Montague, Simeon Calvin d) 05/26/1865 in NY-Burke, Franklin Co Roberts, Eliakim Roberto d) 05/27/1833 in NY-Chateaugay, Franklin Co Roberts, Lucille A d) 5/16/2022 in NY-Chateaugay, Franklin Co Roberts, Mary Leahy d) 2/17/2012 in NY-Chateaugay, Franklin Co Roberts, Sidney d) 05/16/1890 in NY-Chateaugay, Franklin Co PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY AT BALLHAWK12@ATT.NET Jim Dlask 4538 N Avers Chicago IL 60625