--WebTV-Mail-25891-306 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hi Sue, Rod, HB and everyone else-Well I guess this is the most activity this list has seen in awhile!-I did just foreward "snowwhite" to my internet provider-I haven't really been affected by it, since I never opened it! -we'll see where snowwhite ends up from here! Rose --WebTV-Mail-25891-306 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.30) by storefull-177.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 9D2B321F; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:05:51 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E09EE; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f07M3lS17912; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:03:47 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:03:47 -0800 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sun Jan 7 14:03:46 2001 Delivered-To: [email protected]@fixme Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 15:08:30 -0700 From: Sue Babcock <[email protected]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: snow white virus and RootsWeb References: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/397 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Hi NYFRANKL list. I have to changed my mind. The snow white virus message from hahaha does seem to be coming directly because of postings to this list. Immediately after I posted my last message I received a message from hahaha and I have not had any problem with this virus prior to my posting. One of the other RootsWeb list administrators (he actually administers 3 lists) suggests that the list administrator *may* have the bug (his answer to my question is included below with his permission), but the RootsWeb system filters all of the messages and since RootsWeb does not allow attachments we cannot be getting this directly from RootsWeb. Can the administrator of NYFRANKL jump in here and help us out? Thanks, Sue "Jabe Fincher, Jr." wrote: > > Hi, > If everyone on the NYFRANKL mailing list is getting the virus....I would think that > maybe the List-owner has the bug in his/her address book. He/she is the only one > (Probably) that has a complete list of all list members??? As most of you know, > Rootsweb (the system) does not allow attachments to be sent.. so it is someone's > system that is sending the virus out. > ~~~Maybe???? > > Jabe Fincher > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Babcock [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:23 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: snow white virus and RootsWeb > > > > > > Hi listers: I have not had any problems with snow white virus messages until > > now. People on the NYFRANKL mailing list on RootsWeb were complaining about > > getting a message with the virus in it whenever they posted a message to the > > list. I didn't think it was related to RootsWeb, but within a few minutes of > > posting a message to that list, I, too, got a message with the subject line of > > snow white from hahaha. Any ideas about what's happening? And what can we do > > about it? The NYFRANKL list is getting a bit frustrated. It's a low activity > > list generally and I'm worried that this may kill it. Any suggestions would be > > greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sue > > > > > > ==== GEN-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > > Do not forward mail to the GEN-NEWBIE list that was sent to you, either > > privately, or mail that was posted on another list. > > > > --WebTV-Mail-25891-306--

Hi NYFRANKL list. I have to changed my mind. The snow white virus message from hahaha does seem to be coming directly because of postings to this list. Immediately after I posted my last message I received a message from hahaha and I have not had any problem with this virus prior to my posting. One of the other RootsWeb list administrators (he actually administers 3 lists) suggests that the list administrator *may* have the bug (his answer to my question is included below with his permission), but the RootsWeb system filters all of the messages and since RootsWeb does not allow attachments we cannot be getting this directly from RootsWeb. Can the administrator of NYFRANKL jump in here and help us out? Thanks, Sue "Jabe Fincher, Jr." wrote: > > Hi, > If everyone on the NYFRANKL mailing list is getting the virus....I would think that > maybe the List-owner has the bug in his/her address book. He/she is the only one > (Probably) that has a complete list of all list members??? As most of you know, > Rootsweb (the system) does not allow attachments to be sent.. so it is someone's > system that is sending the virus out. > ~~~Maybe???? > > Jabe Fincher > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Babcock [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:23 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: snow white virus and RootsWeb > > > > > > Hi listers: I have not had any problems with snow white virus messages until > > now. People on the NYFRANKL mailing list on RootsWeb were complaining about > > getting a message with the virus in it whenever they posted a message to the > > list. I didn't think it was related to RootsWeb, but within a few minutes of > > posting a message to that list, I, too, got a message with the subject line of > > snow white from hahaha. Any ideas about what's happening? And what can we do > > about it? The NYFRANKL list is getting a bit frustrated. It's a low activity > > list generally and I'm worried that this may kill it. Any suggestions would be > > greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sue > > > > > > ==== GEN-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > > Do not forward mail to the GEN-NEWBIE list that was sent to you, either > > privately, or mail that was posted on another list. > > > >

In a message dated 1/7/2001 2:04:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi NYFRANKL list. I have to changed my mind. The snow white virus message > from > hahaha does seem to be coming directly because of postings to this list. > Immediately after I posted my last message I received a message from hahaha > and > I have not had any problem with this virus prior to my posting. One of the > other > RootsWeb list administrators (he actually administers 3 lists) suggests > that the > list administrator *may* have the bug (his answer to my question is included > below with his permission), but the RootsWeb system filters all of the > messages > and since RootsWeb does not allow attachments we cannot be getting this > directly > from RootsWeb. Can the administrator of NYFRANKL jump in here and help us > out? > Thanks, Sue > > Sue and others with HAHAHA Problems, Since I don't have a problem and I have not been able to find any information from Symantec about a virus with the name "Snow-white," you may be getting bogus messages! Why not just block HAHAHA, or what ever the screen name is and end it? All this virus data is really off topic and nonsensical. If you were really infected, your system would be telling you. Let's get back to the History and Genealogy of Franklin County, Okay? If in doubt, Install a good Anti-virus program and protect yourself, that is the Cardinal rule in computer Internet operation. Rodney L. McKinney [email protected] NEHGS

Hi Rose, I doubt if it is a RootsWeb problem or if RootsWeb can help. Do you have virus protection program? This problem with HaHa was discussed at length on the GEN-NEWBIE mailing list on RootsWeb. You might go to the RootsWeb home page, click on Interactive Search under the Mailing Lists heading. Enter in GEN-NEWBIE and then search GEN-NEWBIE for references to viruses, snow white and haha. If you have problems with this, let me know and I'll try to find some of the info they provided. There are ways to block incoming mail from specific addresses. You difinitely need to do a virus scan of you entire computer (InoculateIT.com has a free virus protection program you might check out). Every time you get this after you've cleaned you 'puter up, just dump it UNOPENED into the trash and empty your trash. Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me directly if you'd like more info. Regards, Sue (in cool and sunny New Mexico) T&R Gowett wrote: > > --WebTV-Mail-5591-692 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > I never connected HAHAHA with Rootsweb until someone else mentioned it-I > just thought that somehow I ended up on someones dirty joke list! > I did try to email HAHAHA and said "do not send me any more email" > but it bounced right back to me. > I guess we could notify Rootsweb..... > Rose > > > --WebTV-Mail-5591-692 > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Received: from smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.55) by > storefull-176.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 > 07:37:33 -0800 (PST) > Received: by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id C7070252; Sun, > 7 Jan 2001 07:37:32 -0800 (PST) > Delivered-To: [email protected] > Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by > smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id > 0060F1B4; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:37:31 -0800 (PST) > Received: (from [email protected]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id > f07FZPn20677; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:35:25 -0800 > Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:35:25 -0800 > X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sun Jan 7 07:35:25 2001 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > From: "Alta Wallace" <[email protected]> > Old-To: "Alta Wallace" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4 > Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:56:57 -0600 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Resent-From: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/393 > X-Loop: [email protected] > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > > Still getting HAHAHA every time NYFranklin comes in. should we contact > Rootsweb?? > -----Original Message----- > From: Alta Wallace <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4 > > >Also getting HAHAHA every day? Any way to stop It???? > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:02 AM > >Subject: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4 > > > > > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-5591-692--

--WebTV-Mail-5591-692 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I never connected HAHAHA with Rootsweb until someone else mentioned it-I just thought that somehow I ended up on someones dirty joke list! I did try to email HAHAHA and said "do not send me any more email" but it bounced right back to me. I guess we could notify Rootsweb..... Rose --WebTV-Mail-5591-692 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.55) by storefull-176.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id C7070252; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:37:32 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by smtpin-102-4.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 0060F1B4; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f07FZPn20677; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:35:25 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:35:25 -0800 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sun Jan 7 07:35:25 2001 Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Alta Wallace" <[email protected]> Old-To: "Alta Wallace" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:56:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/393 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Still getting HAHAHA every time NYFranklin comes in. should we contact Rootsweb?? -----Original Message----- From: Alta Wallace <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:14 AM Subject: Re: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4 >Also getting HAHAHA every day? Any way to stop It???? >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:02 AM >Subject: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4 > > > > --WebTV-Mail-5591-692--

I'm a member of the NYFranklin-L group. I am writing you directly not through the group. I have not seen the original message (and don't want to see it) but I thought I would let you know that not everyone has received your problem e-mail nor are we all having your "HaHa" problem. It appears somebody sent something to you in particular or more likely you picked up a virus someplace else and was programmed to make it look like it came for one of your usual email sites. You probably need to do some virus research at one of the Virus hunter sites like McAfee, Norton or Ontrack to find out how to rid your computer of the virus. I'm not part of the NYFranklin-L site management but it appears they are not communicating with you about your problem, let you know what the rest of us are seeing or not seeing. hb

Still getting HAHAHA every time NYFranklin comes in. should we contact Rootsweb?? -----Original Message----- From: Alta Wallace <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:14 AM Subject: Re: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4 >Also getting HAHAHA every day? Any way to stop It???? >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:02 AM >Subject: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4 > > > >

Also getting HAHAHA every day? Any way to stop It???? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:02 AM Subject: NYFRANKL-D Digest V01 #4

--WebTV-Mail-24174-3323 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Very funny! As SOON as I posed the last letter (which follows) I got, IMMEDIATLY, that same "joke"from Hahaha.........Pest! Rose "The harder you fall, the higher you bounce"-Anonymous @-->-->--- "If you are all wrapped up in yourself,you are overdressed"-Kate Halverson @-->-->--- "For every minute you're angry, you lose 60 seconds of happiness"-Steve Goodier @-->-->--- --WebTV-Mail-24174-3323 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.30) by storefull-176.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 06:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 6874D14C; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 06:25:30 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by smtpin-101-5.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id B552926B; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 06:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from [email protected]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f06EJWi26068; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 06:19:32 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 06:19:32 -0800 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sat Jan 6 06:19:32 2001 X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQWaD0vzn5GnI+0PCcsNhioNprypAIVAKp+UgK5ZnpefTk/Mo4AUzdAjZkv From: [email protected] (T&R Gowett) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 09:19:32 -0500 (EST) Old-To: [email protected] Subject: Beware Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/390 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] I also received that email several times, its from Hahaha, and appears to be a dirty joke about snow white-I never opened it. I wasnt aware that it came from the list, and I didnt know it was a virus-I thought it was just another dirty joke! Rose "The harder you fall, the higher you bounce"-Anonymous @-->-->--- "If you are all wrapped up in yourself,you are overdressed"-Kate Halverson @-->-->--- "For every minute you're angry, you lose 60 seconds of happiness"-Steve Goodier @-->-->--- --WebTV-Mail-24174-3323--

I also received that email several times, its from Hahaha, and appears to be a dirty joke about snow white-I never opened it. I wasnt aware that it came from the list, and I didnt know it was a virus-I thought it was just another dirty joke! Rose "The harder you fall, the higher you bounce"-Anonymous @-->-->--- "If you are all wrapped up in yourself,you are overdressed"-Kate Halverson @-->-->--- "For every minute you're angry, you lose 60 seconds of happiness"-Steve Goodier @-->-->---

Subj: a virus on list Date: 1/5/01 7:57:41 AM Pacific Standard Time From:    [email protected] (Sheila lawyer) To:    [email protected] I just joined and received a virus. this is the received information, perhaps someone will recognize there information here. I know it is not appropriate to send virus warnings to the list but I didn't know how else to handle this. the virus is the Snowhite one. Sheila

In a message dated 1/2/2001 8:38:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Eternally seeking info on any GOWETTS-not many of us out there > > The North Country Telephone Directory that I have list about 16 people > named Gowett. However they seem to all live in Clinton County, with a > couple listed in Essex County. > > Rodney L. McKinney [email protected] NEHGS

Hi, happy new year, everybody! Heres hoping that all the people who got computers for Christmas figured them out and found this list! Eternally seeking info on any GOWETTS-not many of us out there-also Who was DELIA RIVERS? She married Fred CLOOKEY and had CLARENCE CLOOKEY on jan 19, 1905 Who was ELIZABETH LaCLAIR? She married GEORGE SWEET and had Rachel SWEET sept 5, 1908 looking for any info on these people, will share what I have (not much) and am interested in descendants of any of these people and their siblings! Thanks, Rose

I think the original settlement of Franklin Co. was indeed due to cheap and/or available land. Various items I have read suggest there were two great periods of emigration into Franklin County, NY, that being pre-1830 and post-1830. For Vermonters, to have their own status stabilized by their little independent Republic of Vermont finally joining the American states in 1791 certainly advanced the notion of stability and westward movement. Therefore by the time the post-1830 emigrants move in, a mixture of Vermonters, French-Canadians and Irish, they occupied the cleared lands that the pre-1830 folks (many Vermonters) had cleared. It was this first group of folks that did not settle so permanently here as the second group, and many moved into the Great Lakes States. The second group was the one who took great advantage of London land agent Edward Ellice and the cheap lands he was selling. I would love to know much more about Edward Ellice. If one actually goes to Malone and peruses the early land records, one would be quite surprised at the land transactions. Unfortunately, this does not always bode well for genealogists for many were also squatters and/or renters, therefore not showing up in the land records, yet do show up in early census returns or other county records such as the state census records or lis pendins, etc, etc. If you read the county histories, one main product out of the lumber industry were masts for the British navy, built of Franklin Co. trees. The soil is reasonably tillable towards the northern part of the country.

Someone suggested that land could be had for Revolutionary War Veterans. Since my Aaron Parks was a Revolutionary War Veteran, how would I check land given/allowed for purchase for a vet? Also, Franklin County seems to have lost Aaron Parks' burial site. There is every indication that he was residing in the home of his son, Aaron, in Constable in March 1848 when he appeared in court on some matter dealing with his pension. And, since he was not well, he may not have survived too much beyond that date. I have the feeling that he should have been buried in either Constable or Malone. However, correspondence forwarded to me from the Congregational Church in Malone indicates that the church's cemetery was moved. I only hope he was buried in Constable and would really like to find his gravesite. But, in the meantime, I'm interested in why he moved to Malone -- maybe the land! Cheryl

Cheryl, The land made available for Veterans of the Revolution was given, not sold. Comparatively few men took the offer. It was designed to settle the area to prevent the British from encroaching on the northern boundary of New York from Quebec. Your cemetery quest may be difficult. Many people were buried in private or family cemeteries that have long ago disappeared. If you don't find your ancestor in a known cemetery, you should look for deeds to land that they may have purchased. This could give you an idea of where to look for grave sites. As for the Malone move -- could be that since Malone was the largest settlement, that's were he chose to live. People started settling the area around Malone as early as 1796, so I doubt if land availability was the reason. Mac

My guess would be the land! Try reading the 1950 book by Stewart Holbrook entitled 'Yankee Exodus' to see why people left New England during various periods. Before the Revolution, within New England people often migrated north-south. After the war when things settled down they looked further north (into Quebec) as well as west. Franklin Co., NY was one of those places however for some it was only a stopping place on the way to Michigan or Wisconsin. Some of the early (pre-1820) Franklin Co. land was being sold by Edward Ellice and the price was certainly attractive and not that far away for early Vermonters to settle. Some places within the county were not farmable therefore other products mainly potash and wood products quickly became the staples.

Cheryl, My guess would be the railroad. The Rutland railroad started in Vermont in the 1800s. My maternal grandfather worked on the railroad in Malone until it closed. Does anyone else have suggestions? Darlene Southern California

Does anyone know why there were so many people [relatively speaking] who moved from Vermont to Franklin County c. 1800/806 [ok, to the area that became Franklin County]? Was there any particular reason for the move? Cheryl

--part1_d2.44cb82.277653d0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_d2.44cb82.277653d0_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] Full-name: Jespane Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:08:44 EST Subject: Re: Fort Covington settlers in 1700s To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 110 http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyclinto/dcem.htm This is the McClellan Index for cemeteries but they are in Clinton County. There is an address on the page for Plattsburg library. Perhaps they could help you identify the cemetery for Fort Covington or someone on this list who lives closer to the area would help? Jean HaverhilL MA --part1_d2.44cb82.277653d0_boundary--