Hello List, My project for this season is to find the origins of ROBERT LYON who farmed in the Covert area of Seneca County from about 1833 to 1845. At this point I have Seneca County Deeds Index references showing that he purchased property in 1833 and 1841 and that he sold property in 1835 and 1841. Later Illinois information suggest that he was born in Pennsylvania about 1809. I am desperate to find any information which might lead to his parents, siblings, or Pennsylvania birthplace. Robert Lyon married ARZILLAH HALL at Covert in about 1832. The information that I have found so far indicates that she was the daughter of JOHN HALL and granddaughter of CALEB HALL. Working from a distance sure is slow and I would greatly appreciate any help or advice from other list members. Dave Burnett, Alberta, Canada

Tioga County NY Old-News, Aug. 8, 1885 NORTH BARTON Wm. FRISBIE has purchased a reaper and binder. Charles HODGES' people are entertaining friends from Elmira. S. C. BROWN drove to Burdett, Schuyler Co., on Sunday last, to notify relatives there of the death of John LAINHART, one of the oldest and most esteemed citizens of the town of Barton. Mr. LAINHART was found dead in his bed on Sunday morning. The funeral services were held Tuesday, Rev, Mr. BURHYTE officiating. It was largely attended. The deceased was 78 years of age. A very fine monument has recently been erected in the North Baron cemetery, to the memory of Ferris McMASTER, who was buried there from the town of Spencer. D. V. BESEMER has forty acres of grass yet to cut. Mr. BESEMER is wading through a large haying, cutting considerable over 100 acres of grass. D. V. is an extensive and enterprising farmer. A basket picnic will be held in the grove on the North Barton fair grounds, the 29th of the present month. A prominent feature of this occasion will be an address by S. A. McKAY, chaplain of the New York State Grange, he is an able and eloquent speaker. Instrumental and vocal music will add interest to the exercises all of which will be under the direction of the Grange. Everybody from everywhere, town and county are invited. Bring your friends and attend the harvest feast. Don't forget your lunch basket. Rev. Z. EVANS pronounced a eulogy on General GRANT last Sunday morning, at M. E. North Barton church. It was a very fine address and he portrayed the life of the fine old hero, making it an example for the young men of our day. Jackson HOFFMAN, is agent for agricultural implements. He has made numerous sales of late, particularly mowers, reapers and rakes. Wm. CRANE lost a horse the latter part of this week. August 10----CLIFTON NICHOLS. Dr. CADY is on a ten day furlough in New York. His friends wish him a pleasant trip. Mr. Frank BURGESS, of Owego, stopped over Tuesday night, with Mr. and Mrs. JOHNSON of this place. W. W. MALLORY comes out with a new advertisement this week. Nichols fully sympathizes with the neighboring village, Waverly, during the great influx of "school ma'ams" to that village. This place sent its share of the lovely dames, numbering about 25 in all. Mr. Alfred BADGLY and niece, Miss ZURICH, of Susquehanna, were calling in town last week. Mr. A. P. ROOK attended the Great obsequies in New York. The Messrs and Misses WILSON gave a very pleasant evening party. Wednesday last. The premises in the rear of the brick block are being cleaned and the old lake house torn down adding much in appearance to the lower part of the village. We are sorry to learn that KETCHAM & WATERMAN will close their meat market in this place, owing to a lack of patronage. Nichols is large enough to support a market but not two. People who will not partronage home industries and give their support to a local meat mart will experience the disadvantages thereof. August 12. Kit. WILLSEYVILLE. The Farmer picnic at EASTMAN'S Hill was a grand affair. Elder WOODRUFF of Brockton and Rev. C. SWEET of South Danby, addressed the people, after which refreshments were served in a bountiful manner. There was a family picnic at William HOWLAND'S Thursday, of this week. Rev. Senaca HOWARD, (sic) of Conn., brother of William HOWLAND was present. Mr. Moses MULKS is lying at the point of death at his sister, Mrs. Abe BUSH'S Mr. and Mrs. McINTIRE are guests at Mr. John SARSON'S Rev. Frank CHAPMAN called on friends at this place Wednesday. Andrew STEVENS and mother are visiting at Fred DAVISES (sic) at Ludlowville. Mrs. DAVIS is a daughter of Mrs. STEVENS. Mr. Eugene STRONG has arrived home from Dakota, having had the misfortune to break his wrist while there. On the way home he was taken sick and had to lay off for twelve hours before he was able to resume his journey homeward. Mrs. Thomas O'BRIEN has gone to Watkins to visit her daughter. Willie BINN, of Ithaca, spent Sunday at his home, in this place. Mrs. C. C. MINOR fell the other day and fractured her arm. Mr. SARSON made a business trip to Ithaca this week. August 7. Rose. Bill Grummons [email protected]

Hello, I was informed that there is a complete index for the book "History of Tioga, Chemung, Tompkins, and Schuyler Counties, New York," published in 1879." I have a copy of this book and I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a library or historical society in New York where I can get a copy of the index or go and copy it myself. Thank You Christina Laskowski

Sept. 12, 1885 No. 2 PERSONAL Don't fail to see the exhibition of the double rotary harrow on Mr. E. H. HOUSE'S farm to-morrow all day. Take notice of the advertisement, in another column, of Chester WHITE pigs for sale by J. C. COUNCILMAN, of Newark Valley Wagon For Sale - A good two seat democrat wagon can be bought cheap. Inquire at George TUCK'S clothing store Front street. Croton hose No. 3 will attend the Cortland parade as guest's of Water Witches, Tioga Centre Coronet Band accompanies them. You can not very well overlook the new advertisement of BUCKBEE, PETERSON, WOOD & Co., one of the leading and responsible dry goods firms of this place. James TAYLOR, of Tioga, convicted of rape, sentenced in 1877 to fifteen years in Auburn prison, was a recent applicant for pardon, but Gov. HILL denied the application. Interesting correspondence from Catatonk reached us too late for publication this week. All matter for publication should reach us by not latter then Wednesday to insure insertion. Col. W. E. DORWIN has a contract for building a railroad in Wisconsin and it is said that this will prevent him from running for the Assembly this fall. This will improve Mr. LATIMER'S chances. Geo. TUCK, the clothier has just received one of James L. LIBBY'S cabinets. It is made of ash and is beautifully and appropriately lettered. There are four compartments and the whole resembles a magnificent bureau. George VanNOSTRAN has sold his lease, stock of goods and good will in the saloon on the corner of North avenue and South Depot street to NICHOLS & HUBER, formerly of the Park hotel, who have taken possession. A fellow named Henry MILLER, committed assault with a pitchfork with intent to kill, upon a farmer in the town of Barton. He was brought to this village and hied along to justice's office, where he was committed to the county jail to await action of the next grand jury. A box car on the Erie road was switched at Campville Sunday because of fire and was soon consumed on the side track where it was left. The cause of the fire was unknown and was due no doubt to spontaneous combustion, as it started inside among the merchandise with which it was loaded. The trial of George AXTELL is set down for the next term of the Broome county court at Binghamton on the 28th of this month. AXTELL, it will be remembered, is the man who murdered Wm. PERRY, Ellis FREEMAN and Adam FRENCH in CONRAD'S saloon at Deposit last Decoration Day, while intoxicated. Hon. C. F. BARAGAR, of Candor, was in town Monday. A. F. WOODFORD, of Candor, was in town Wednesday George TUCK, the clothier, has been in New York this week buying goods. Rev Geo. FORSYTH, of this village visited Susquehanna the first of the week. John R. and Frank LYONS, brothers, are spending a week in New York and Boston. Supervisor R. W. CLINTON and Hon. J. B. LANDFIELD, of Newark Valley, were in town Monday. Mrs. Josephine MURPHY, of Dansville, NY, is visiting her aunt, Mrs. A. N. SEDGWICK in Owego. "Saxy" DUNHAM is assisting Geo. ROBINSON as bar clerk in the absence of Mr. LYON who is traveling east. Wm. L. FORSYTH has returned from Scranton to again engage in painting, paper hanging etc. in the best style. Miss Clara VERMILYEA, of Elmira, who visited Mrs. Jared E. FOOTE at JENKSVILLE last week, returned home on Saturday J. O. FROST the furniture merchant of Candor was in Owego on Tuesday, en route home from a visit with friends in Towanda. Gere, TRUMAN & PLATT'S establishment has been represented at Whitney Point fair this week by Theodore HORTON. Miss Clara STEELE, of Temple st. returned on Wednesday from a weeks vacation with her cousin, Miss Lizzie SEARS, at Newark Valley. A. E. NYE a first class baker from Cortland, has recently become a resident of this village, having entered the employ of M. HALL. John J. DURFEE, of Wellsburg visited his parents, Mr. and Mrs. F. D. DURFEE, and took in the Fireman's Parade on Wednesday. Mrs. Geo. EREANBACK and her sister, Mrs. HINE of Athens, PA, were the guests of Mrs. C. H. KEELER, Main street, the first of the week. Dr. D. S. STERNS. of Buffalo, is confined to his home, in this village, with a large carbuncle on his neck, He is being attended by Dr. HEATON. John LAMB, Erie brakeman, has gone to Bradford to accept a position as passenger conductor on the Bradford, Bordell & Kinzuna railroad. O. P. SIBLEY and E. BUFFUM, of Owego, Joe BOVEE of Weltonville, and O. A. ALVORD of SPEEDSVILLE are in Waverly and Athens today on business. Bill Grummons [email protected]

You could also contact the Little Valley Historical Society and I think they have a web site. They probably could help you. If you go to www.google.com and put in The county and the state it will probably give you the information you need as to who to contact.

Once again I am offering to do lookups in the "History of Tioga, Chemung, Tompkins, and Schuyler Counties, New York," published in 1879. In the past I had only the original index to go by and had to request that a town be supplied along with an ancestor's name. A few months after my last offer I was contacted by an individual who had seen it and it prompted her to write me. She then supplied me with a more complete and updated index to this book. Thanks to her kindness and generosity I am now in a postion whereby I am able to offer to do lookups by name alone! When submitting a request for a lookup please send an email to me (not to the list) which includes both Surname and Given Name of your ancestor. If you know of a particular area where your ancestor resided in, please include that in your request as well. (i.e. Smith family in Elmira area is not an acceptable request!)Please understand when submitting a request that the majority of information found within this History! pertains to the Early Settlers. From past lookups I took note that there is very little mentions of ancestors from about 1840-50 onwards. Of those that do appear, the majority of them mainly show they held some type of local office and/or military (Civil War Regiment) information.I will do lookups primarily on a first come first serve basis, or if many requests involve a particular town or area, will try to group them up. It may take me a few days or more to respond, depending on personal circumstances and the numbers of requests received. Sorry to have to put conditions on the lookup offer but free time is a factor here as well as the condition of the book.Sue ------------------------------------------------ Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path. Register now!

Hi List, Does anyone have info on Auburn Libraries that would have microfilms of local newspapers that were in existence in the 1890s. Trying find obituaries on Martin Bricks who died Oct. 14, 1894 and Coincentia Bricks who died Dec. 21, 1895. Both in the city of Auburn, Cayuga Co. Perhaps there is a website with links to Auburn Libraries. Thanks. Bob Phillips

Here is the Chautauqua County web site. Good place to start. Good luck http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychauta/INDEX.HTM ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: [NYFL] Marriage records in Jamestown,NY-Chautauqua County I am trying to locate marriage records for my parents: John Edmond Frazier and Dora Jennette(Jeanette) Schermerhorn, married in 1934/35 in Jamestown because she was under age(probably lied about it on the license). I was born in '35 & brother in '37. They were divorced after his birth, possibly in PA where they lived, from date married, in N. Warren. Anyone have any suggestions?

I am trying to locate marriage records for my parents: John Edmond Frazier and Dora Jennette(Jeanette) Schermerhorn, married in 1934/35 in Jamestown because she was under age(probably lied about it on the license). I was born in '35 & brother in '37. They were divorced after his birth, possibly in PA where they lived, from date married, in N. Warren. Anyone have any suggestions?

seeking information regarding Ward Alton Parker, Ross Henry Parker and Helen Parker Berlew, children of Alton George Parker and Hattie Pond. We have birth and death of Ross Parker (1909 - 1948) but don't have information on marriage and children. (if there was any).......We have birth and death of Ward (1912 - 1988)......and have notations of a couple of marriages (Evelyn Rumsey and Laura Joiner)......and 2 children, but don't know for sure which wife was the mother of these two children, and where these children are at the present time.......... We have information that Helen Parker married a Berlew.........no other information............. Any information would be most appreciated......... Patty

Thank You all for your help.....I just knew if I asked the right group I'd get the correct answer......now I feel safe with proceeding with the DAR membership.......Tam

Thursday, October 3, 2002 Ithaca Journal Schuyler Town Talk: A new look at Chemung Canal By NEIL CHAFFIE Irish laborers set to work with pick and shovel in 1829 with the idea of opening a 22-mile-long canal making it possible to ship goods from Horseheads north to Seneca Lake in what is now the Catharine Valley. The 42-foot-wide Chemung Canal was 5 feet deep with 53 locks and a "keeper" in a small house at each lock. Grains, coal, salt and timber were among the goods people were able to ship. As for canal passengers, they paid five cents a mile with food included. The waterway, facing strong competition for business with the coming of the railroads, ultimately gave way to the "iron horse" and was out of business by 1878. The Elmira branch of the Pennsylvania Railroad came into being and was noted for its movement of coal trains. But that didn't last either. Penn Central Railroad properties were conveyed years later to the new Consolidated Railroad Corp. (Conrail) with unwanted lines, such as the Horseheads-Watkins Glen segment, shut down and removed in the mid 1980s. A trail once traveled by Native Americans and Revolutionary War soldiers and used by shippers and railroaders bent on making economic prosperity a reality along the route, it is aimed today at new users - tourists, hikers, birders, photo buffs, historians and so on. The Catharine Valley and its trail are within a five-hour drive of many metropolitan areas in the United States and Canada, notes the Elmira-Chemung Transportation Council. That figures out to 20 million people within 200 miles. Low-level utilization of the trail could mean 39,000 users a year with an economic impact of $400,000 to $490,000, according to Jay Schissell, director of the Elmira-Chemung Transportation Council, in last fall's edition of the Catharine Valley Trail News. By publicizing and promoting the trail for mid-level utilization, Schissell wrote, a tourism development plan predicts a user figure rising to 55,000 to 60,000 people a year pumping $900,000 or more into the economy. Forty per cent of those users would be local people and there would be jobs for six to eight people. High-level utilization, resulting from an aggressive promotional program, could bump trail use up into the 75,000 to 80,000 range with total economic benefits of $2 million to $2.4 million annually and a dozen or more people on the payroll. The Friends of the Catharine Valley Trail note that many visitors to the Finger Lakes region are "day-trippers." A well-publicized trail, the Friends feel, would bring in additional visitors and "significantly increase the number of overnight visitors to our area and result in a very positive impact on our community." The Chemung Canal and the trail are topics coming up for considerable discussion. Local geologist George Bulin will discuss tree species and geological aspects of the trail beginning at 9 a.m. Saturday. Meet at the South Genesee Street trailhead parking lot in Montour Falls. The Montour Falls Memorial Library is to receive some help with its fund-raiser with Lake Country Players in the role of Queen Catharine and other historical figures from 2 to 3 p.m. and 7 to 8 p.m. Oct. 12 at the library. The actors will share some of the life stories of those early residents of what is now the Queen Catharine Valley. Prices are $4 for adults, $2 for children 5 and older or $10 for the entire family. Call 535-7489 for tickets and information. The Chemung Canal's positive and negative impacts will be described by local historian Gary Emerson at 7 p.m. Oct. 16 at the Rural Urban Center in Montour Falls. The Schuyler County Historical Society is sponsoring Emerson's talk. Emerson has invited the public to join him at 9 a.m. Oct. 19 for a visit of the trail. He intends to describe features in the landscape that are remnants of the once busy Chemung Canal. Participants will meet at the South Genesee Street trailhead parking lot in Montour Falls. Musical in November The Lake Country Players are in rehearsals for their fall musical, "Man of LaMancha," under the direction of Lisa McKnight of Waverly. To help cover increasing production costs, the non-profit theater group is increasing ticket prices to $10 for adults, $8 for seniors and $6 for students. The musical will be presented next month. "Man of LaMancha" is the musical version of the adventures of Don Quixote. Neil Chaffie's column about Schuyler County appears on Thursdays. Contact him at PO Box 543, Ovid, NY 14521; 869-5049; or <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>

In doing research for the DAR I have a legitimacy question........I've been told that a line ends at adoption......but what if the parents never married and the line comes from the mother.......Does anyone on the list know the answer or where I can find it.....Thanks Tam

Tioga County OLD-NEWS Aug 27, 1891 RINGERS AND HUBBERS. Candor Aug 26, - Miss Josie PARKER of Smyrna, NY is visiting at J. H. JENNINGS' Ronnie RICHARDSON is visiting friends in Binghamton. Luther ROPER of Danby visited his son, Dr. W. E. ROPER, Sunday. James JENNINGS made a trip to Williamsport last Saturday. D. S. FESSENDEN is in Ithaca doing a fine job of carpenter work for parties there. O. J. WARD was in Cortland Monday on business. Charles LITTLE was in Ithaca Monday. In last weeks Record it was reported the Rev. MARSLAND had handed in his resignation. The information was received from responsible parties and were supposed to be facts, but it was a mistake, as Mr. MARSLAND says it is not so, and the opportunity is taken to correct the mistake.. Harry SMITH returned to West Superior Wednesday to resume his duties in a loan and debenture office. Mrs. J. C. DIXON is in Elmira visiting at Henry GILBERT'S. Miss Nellie HENDERSON has returned from her extended trip Charles PALMATIER and family of Ithaca visited at John PALMATIER'S Sunday The large mud hole near Edward JENNINGS' place has been filled up with gravel by Roadmaster J. C. DIXON. Mabel GILPIN of Fairfield is visiting her friend Miss Frankie EASTON. George HART is camping out down Cayuga Lake. James DARMODAY of New York is in town. Quoits pitching is being freely indulged in for a pastime. George COGGINS of Ithaca was in town Friday. Maud SCHAFFER of Ithaca is visiting at Grace LITTLE'S. Ebenezer BURLEIGH fell down stairs Wednesday and when found by some of his neighbors was unconscious and it was thought that his neck was broken. Dr. DIXON was called and found that, with the exception of a bad shaking up, he was all right. Mr. and Mrs. Daniel LOUNSBERRY have been visiting friends at Ithaca. Rev. Arthur BLOOMFIELD and wife of Speedsville visited George DOUGLASS Thursday. Dr. DeWitt ROSS had William DECKER taken to the county house Wednesday where he would receive better care then he has been getting at home. Since then parties have had him removed and will try to keep him. Ed. BROOKS and sister Ella celebrated their twenty-first birthday Wednesday. Their relatives to the number of over twenty were present and a pleasant and social time was had. Ed is clerking in a store in Tioga Centre and has a host of friends in this place. Gerry STODDARD of Worcester, Mass, is visiting his mother, Mrs. SPAULDING, in this place. Miss Grace TUCKER is visiting friends in Hornellsville. The boys have erected a toboggan slide at the old dam at HOFF'S mill. Mrs. J. C. FROST is having the stoop of her house enlarged. William PETERS shipped a fine stallion from his Mapledale farm last week. A GALA DAY. Grand Excursion to the Beautiful and Picturesque Lake Keuka. On Sunday, August 30, the Erie will run a low priced excursion to the most beautiful sheet of water in the state, Lake Keuka. The route will be over the Erie lines to Bath, thence over the Bath & Hammondsport Ry. to Hammondsport, connecting at the latter place with magnificent steamers for a ride over the lake, arriving at O-go-ya-go, or any intermediate station in ample time for dinner. Special trains will be run in both directions. Passengers will have eight hours on the lake. The train will leave Owego at 7:40 a. m.; Fare for the round trip only $1.25. Remember the date, Sunday August 30th. Bill Grummons [email protected]

Here is an excellant summary of the Maccabees organization. http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/fraternalism/maccabees.htm It like so many other post-Civil War Societies, were set up to provide for the widows and orphans of the members. See my series of articles on Fraternal Organizations at http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/10293/55534 http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/10293/67905 http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/10293/56809 ===== Mark W. Swarthout, Esq. North American Genealogy - http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/north_american_gene_history The Swarthout/Swartout/Swartwout Web Site - http://swarthoutfamily.org Lander County Coordinator - NVGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nvlander/ Assistant State Coordinator - Nevada GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nvgenweb/ Ink For Blood - The David Fairchild Family - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nvlander/Fairchild/ink.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com

Hi all. I found some information on the National Railroad Retirement Board website at http://www.rrb.gov/geneal.html concerning genealogical queries. bb ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: [NYFL] Railroad Employees > I am interested in locating any employment records or similar items for my > great-grandfather, John Herson, nee Gelchenor, who, at various times worked > for: > > The Geneva, Ithaca and Sayre Railroad (G I & S R R) > > The Lehigh Valley Railroad (L V R R) > > The Delaware, Lackawanna and Wilmington Railroad (D L & W R R) > > He shows up in Ithaca City Directories as being a railroad worker from 1876 > to 1917, when he died. His occupations were listed as brakeman, fireman, > engineer. > > He is also listed, at the time of his death, as an "engineer at the city > pumping station." I am curious to know if the "pumping station" was railroad > related or referred to a fire company or other such city operation. > > I would appreciate any help, guidance or information you can provide. > > > Tom Herson > Ithaca, NY > >

Maccabees Society was an insurance group - I suppose something similar to WOW (Woodmen of the World). I would assume that with the reference to Judas Maccabeus that it was most likely primarily for Jewish members. Charmaine Riley Holley [email protected]

I am in need of the information on a Zenas Covel on page 274 in your "His. of Cayuga Co 1789-1879" Is there anyone who could scan it for me and e-mail it to me? Thanks so much --- Betty Plombon Stanley, WI

Hello, Charmaine! I would not assume the Maccabees or KOTM or LOTM or Women's Benefit Association members are/were of the Jewish faith. There is a great deal of Eastern Symbolism and Biblical Symbolism used by Free Masonry and other Fraternal organizations. But, there is a chapter of a Masonic Lodge in Mill Valley, in Marin County, CA on the Web. It has posted a lot of information that you we all can review and learn from: http://www.abaris.net/freemasonry/index.html Their email contact for questions is: [email protected] Drew On 29 Sep 2002, at 16:58, [email protected] wrote: > Maccabees Society was an insurance group - I suppose something similar to WOW > (Woodmen of the World). I would assume that with the reference to Judas > Maccabeus that it was most likely primarily for Jewish members. > > Charmaine Riley Holley > [email protected] >

Hi, Tom- You'll probably have the best luck contacting fraternal Organizations or even a Mortuary that was around in 1917 in the local area where your ancestor lived or the New York City Library or another good libray. Many University Libraries on the Web may have info on this beyond historical info. There is a very interesting website you might check out and email the owner at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~srgp/flaghold/flag002.htm Mostly history of K.O.T.M and L.O.T.M. LOTM stood for Ladies of the Maccabees, but someoen joked it stood for "Leave Out The Men", and that came to pass when the ladies changed their association to the "Women's Benefit Association". The Maccabees absorbed a couple other unions or Insurance companies in the 30's and 40's, like the Michigan Union Life Association, and I'm not sure if the Maccabees Mutual Life Insurance Company is still around, like it was in 1990's or got absorbed by another company. Besides designs you will see carved into Grave headstones, or Flag Holders, Mortuaries often had records that Deceased clients were members of Fraternal organizations from the heirs or family members. That's all I can tell you. Sorry. Drew On 29 Sep 2002, at 8:13, [email protected] wrote: > I'm interested in locating membership records for a fraternal organization > called The Maccabees. An ancestor who died in 1917 had been a member so I'm > obviously interested in the records preceding that time but any information on > local or other contacts would be appreciated. > > Tom Herson > Ithaca, NY > >