Gordon, I don't know if you have any documentation or any more specifics on Daniel and Elisabeth's marriage but they were actually married on February 28, 1822. The announcement appears in the Geneva Gazette on March 13, 1822. They were married by Rev. H. Axtell in Seneca. Hope this helps. Rikki On 5 Jan 2003 at 23:26, Gordon J. Lever wrote: > Saw an article (below) that Bill Grummons posted from the Tioga County > News. > I have been researching my LEVER family and have a Elizabeth (Betsy) > Lever > who married a Daniel Hough in 1823. They seem to disappear from then on. > Does anyone have Dan and Betsy in their family line ?? > Thanks in advance, Gordon Lever

I don't know if this Isaac Brown is who you are looking for or not but it's not beyond the realm of possibility so I am forwarding you the information I found in my book, 10,000 Vital Records of Eastern NY 1777-1834. pg 34 listing number 1167. ~~~snip~~~ Brown, Isaac, merchant, of Albany m 5/27/30 Isabella Brown, 2nd dau of late Henry, Esq. of Knox, in K; Rev. Williams (2-5/29) ~~~snip~~~ The numbers in parenthesis indicate the publication and the date the announcement appeared. In this case the announcement appeared in the Ballston Spa Gazette on May 29, 1930. This Isaac is in the right county even if he were a little old to be getting married. But he could have waited that long or he could have married a second time. There is no other listing for this family. Rikki On 7 Jan 2003 at 16:53, [email protected] wrote: > I am looking for Isaac Brown, baptised 1 Jan, 1784 in Stillwater, NY. He was > the son of Wright S. Brown and Hannah Newland. > > ______________________________

Hello Everyone, I was wondering if anyone could check N.Y. Library for vitals for me? I have a Thomas Golden born abt 1845 in Ireland married to Ann Dowd born abt 1845 in Ireland, she came to N.Y. in 1865, not sure when he came. Their daughter Mary Theresa Golden was born in 1872. I need a marriage record for Thomas and Ann, some where between 1870 and 1875. In the census in 1875 she was listed as married, in 1880 she is listed as widow, but she was not living with him , so I think he was in the civil war and died before he came home? no information on his death date either. She was living in Ontario county at the time. Thank you, Cathy Obeshaw

I know a number of mid-western states (Nebraska being one that I am familiar with) where License Plate directories are distributed by insurance companies. I would guess that the historical society has copies going way back of these. With the low population of the counties, and the plates being issued by county, most people know who a plate belongs to. Can't get away with shady deals out there! I don't believe most of the Eastern states ever did anything like the directories, due to the higher populations. ===== Mark W. Swarthout, Esq. North American Genealogy - http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/north_american_gene_history The Swarthout/Swartout/Swartwout Web Site - http://swarthoutfamily.org Lander County Coordinator - NVGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nvlander/ Assistant State Coordinator - Nevada GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nvgenweb/ Ink For Blood - The David Fairchild Family - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nvlander/Fairchild/ink.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Also, if you'd like to add a little history to your presentation, my g-grandfather, Martin Stone, with this brother, William, ran the first car repair garage in Waterloo, NY back in the early 1900s. Linda Stone Johnson

Sorry, I forgot to put my message in. Where was the garage? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:33 AM Subject: RE: [NYFL] HELP dating pics with autos in them?!! > Also, if you'd like to add a little history to your presentation, my > g-grandfather, Martin Stone, with this brother, William, ran the first car > repair garage in Waterloo, NY back in the early 1900s. > > Linda Stone Johnson > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:33 AM Subject: RE: [NYFL] HELP dating pics with autos in them?!! > Also, if you'd like to add a little history to your presentation, my > g-grandfather, Martin Stone, with this brother, William, ran the first car > repair garage in Waterloo, NY back in the early 1900s. > > Linda Stone Johnson > > > > >

I am willing to take digital pictures of headstones. I'm kind of at a stall with my genealogy work and figure it's time to help others the way I've been helped. I live in Seneca Falls and will go in a 40 mile radius. Even though I don't have a lot of genealogy around here I still have a hard time passing cemeteries. lol May as help others and fulfill the urge to drive in. Faith

GREAT IDEA!!! SEE this is why I LOVE this list!!! This won't be necessary with the school project that I'm working on, as I've had LOADS of great offers to help on that one, but it will be GREAT for my own personal pics, as I'm sure some of those vehicles were registered to family members!! THANKS AGAIN! Joan In a message dated 1/12/2003 11:03:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I approached this issue by asking the Montana list, > because I had a photo of old cars with exposed license > from that state. There was also a man with a young > girl, who I thought might be relation. Solution was > the Montana Historical Society, who responded within > two days of my request with the car's registered > owners of 1910. Don't know those owners or the people > in the picture, but I did get an answer. You could > try the state historical society to see if they have > similar registration records. Good luck.

I approached this issue by asking the Montana list, because I had a photo of old cars with exposed license from that state. There was also a man with a young girl, who I thought might be relation. Solution was the Montana Historical Society, who responded within two days of my request with the car's registered owners of 1910. Don't know those owners or the people in the picture, but I did get an answer. You could try the state historical society to see if they have similar registration records. Good luck. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hi I used the keywords "classic car photo gallery" and found these. Don't know if it's exactly what you are looking for, but maybe something will look similar. http://classiccar.carfrenzy.com/files/twenties0.html http://auto.indiamart.com/cars/photo-gallery/index.html http://www.classiccarclub.org/american_classics_salon.htm Linda O'Halloran ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: [NYFL] HELP dating pics with autos in them?!!

My son's godfather is an expert in this area. Depending on if they are not too too old. He also runs a Chevy dealership. A close friend of the family used to own the dealership many many years ago, so I am sure that someone could help. If you would like, forward me the pictures. Nicol ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: [NYFL] HELP dating pics with autos in them?!! > Hi all, > > Since this is my "go to" list for off the wall questions, I have one for > ya!! Does anyone know if a website exists, where you can compare cars or > trucks found in old pictures to try and date the picture?? I've tried > several different searches on Google & Jeeves, but if one exists, I must not > have come up with the right phrasing yet!! ANY thoughts would be GREATLY > appreciated!! > I have tons of pics that I could much closer date this way, but right now > I'm working on a local history exhibit for my daughter's school, and have 5 > or 6 that I would REALLY like to pin down an era for!! So if anyone out > there is an old auto expert and would like to take a stab at them, I can send > scanned pics to them!! > > Thanks in advance!! > Joan >

Hi all, Since this is my "go to" list for off the wall questions, I have one for ya!! Does anyone know if a website exists, where you can compare cars or trucks found in old pictures to try and date the picture?? I've tried several different searches on Google & Jeeves, but if one exists, I must not have come up with the right phrasing yet!! ANY thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated!! I have tons of pics that I could much closer date this way, but right now I'm working on a local history exhibit for my daughter's school, and have 5 or 6 that I would REALLY like to pin down an era for!! So if anyone out there is an old auto expert and would like to take a stab at them, I can send scanned pics to them!! Thanks in advance!! Joan

NEEDED TO BORROW Auburn WALL MAP: looking to scan or photograph I am looking for the 1858? WALL MAP OF THE CITY OF AUBURN There is a copy in the entrance way of P+C on the west side of Auburn. I could come to where the map is or if you would let me borrow it for a few days that would be great. Its one of the few remaining maps of Auburn or Cayuga County that have not been archived, photographed or reproduced.

Please, please check a site such as http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html BEFORE you send out virus warnings to everyone. Thank you, Diane Diane Lerch Kurtz [email protected] http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyseneca List Moderator for NYFingerLakes-L, NYSENECA-L and LERCH-L

To all, Evidently I bit on a virus hoax that I then sent to everyone on my list. According to Symantec and a number of emails I've received in response, Jdbgmgr.exe is a legitimate though seldom used windows file. If you deleted this file, don't worry. It's only important to programmers who use microsoft visual J++ 1.1 to develop Java programs. it's absence will not cause your PC to stop working or intervere with your applications. programs using Microsoft Visual J++ 1.1 Hope this helps, I apologize for any inconvinience, John

Hi This virus warning is a hoax. You can read more at http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html Linda O'Halloran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Van Steen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:35 AM Subject: [NYFL] Fw: IMPORTANT VIRUS NOTIFICATION > Please check your system for this virus. > >

This is DEFINITELY A HOAX!!! This is designed to get people to delete a REGULAR WINDOWS FILE that can mess up certain systems!!! If you have already deleted the file, you can go to: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q322993 to see if your system is one that requires the file, and if so, it will tell you how to restore the file. ALWAYS CHECK your antivirus software's hoax section if your antivirus didn't detect a virus, before you follow any instructions to delete files, or pass along a warning!! GOOD LUCK!! Joan

This may be a hoax. Check it out first before you delete any files. [email protected] (Russ Hunt)

This is another myth. See: http://www.vmyths.com/hoax.cfm?id=275&page=3 for information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Van Steen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:35 PM Subject: [NYFL] Fw: IMPORTANT VIRUS NOTIFICATION Please check your system for this virus. ----- Original Message ----- From: laurence jones To: Alberto Siri ; Amy Elizabeth Diehl ; Anne Maletta ; art scheffer ; Carmen Diaz ; Courtney Fint ; Deborah Van Steen ; Denise Kelly ; elena pinto simon ; elodie ; Emily Thompson ; Erik Sigge ; Erika Webb ; Heather Horgan ; Jacqueline Peu-Duvallon ; John Stubbs ; Kirsten Brinker ; Kyle Killian ; Lynn Jones ; Margaret Minard ; Melinda Jones ; melissa baldock ; Mick(Margaret) Minard ; Pamela Jerome ; Polly ; Robert Bruegmann ; Roxanne Ryce-Paul ; Sarah Garlinghouse ; Tenzing Lobsang ; Thaddeus Kulkowski ; William George Sommer ; Lobsang Tenzing Gyaltso ; Gordon Young Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT VIRUS NOTIFICATION Hello friends....I received this caution this morning from my close friend in London. My system had the virus as well, this a.m. Thanks, Laurence ----- Original Message ----- From: Hilary Scarlett To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: FW: IMPORTANT VIRUS NOTIFICATION Please see the note below re a virus. It did get into my system and I do have a virus checker, so it is worth checking your system. I hope the virus hasn't reached your computer. Hilary -----Original Message----- From: Brian Waring [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 09 January 2003 10:32 To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: IMPORTANT VIRUS NOTIFICATION I am very sorry about this, but a virus may have been passed on to my computer by a contact. My address book may be in turn infected. Since you are in my address book, there is a good chance you may find it in your computer too. The virus called jdbgmgr.exe is not detected by Norton or McAfee anti-virus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by messenger and by the address book, whether or not you sent e-mails to your contacts. Here is how to check for the virus and how to get rid of it. YOU MUST DO THIS: 1.Go to Start, Find or Search option 2. In the filefolders option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe 3. Be sure you search your C:drive and all subfolders and any other drives you may have 4. Click "find now" 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT 6. Go to Edit (on menu bar), choose "select all" to highlight the file without opening it 7. Now go to File (on menu bar) and select Delete. It will go into the recylce bin IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK SO THAT THEY CAN ERADICATE IT. To do this: 1. Open a new email message 2. Click the icon of the address book next to the @"TO" 3. Highlight every name and add to the "BCC" 4. Copy this message...enter subject...paste to email...send