In a message dated 3/24/03 4:55:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Please remove my email address from any and all mailing lists. > > Thank you > That's not going to do much good. You need to follow the instructions :) Tom Herson Ithaca, NY

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Dear Folks, I just joined your list because I am trying to identify a man a picture that I found in my grandmother's stuff, no name, of course. It was taken by the Bradley and Bulson photographers, 15 Bryant Ave., SF after 1870 I think. There is a photo of a dark haired, clean shave man, wearing a suite, vest, white shirt and bow tie. He is clean shaven, has a rather prominent nose, sort of turned up, sort of narrow chin. Here comes the fun part: encircling this described picture are 12 smaller gag pictures of this gent, costumed as a baby, and other such goofy hats, with also sorts of goofy happy to sad faces. The caption reads " Merrily Yours, LITCHFIELD, The Man of Many Faces." I tried to find him google, but no luck. Also a couple Litchfield forum. Your Lyman searches caught my eye a bit as Gramma,while born in Oregon was descended from New England stock. Her father was a Melvin and her uncle John Melvin lived in Litchfield, MI - I don't think this guy could be a Melvin because he does not resemble any of the few pictures I have of them; however, the Melvins were from MA and one generation landed in and stayed in and married in the Ontario/Wayne County area. I note that for some reason, Lyman was a very popular given name during that time. Another name associated with my folks is Wisner. Wisners seem to have had sorta narrow chins. Any takers? Phoebe in CA

>From the official program for the Geneva NY Sesqui-Centennial Celebration The Geneva Story August 1957 Here follows a list of persons noted for their activities in Geneva during the period 1835-1900, and who are the founders or members of families well-known and still represented in Geneva today. Nathan D. Lapham, famed trial lawyer, judge and public benefactor. William Graham McKelvie, nurseryman and civic leader. William Whitwell, merchant and president of one of the oldest continuously run department stores in America. James R. Vance, Scottish emigrant, inventor of a number of patented devices in the brick manufacturing industry, founder of the J.R. Vance Iron Works. Edward H. Palmer, head and leading spirit of numerous financial and industrial enterprises in Geneva. Samuel Nagel, emigrant from Germany, contractor who built more than 200 homes and buildings in Geneva, including the Masonic Temple. Reuban H. Gulvin, merchant and chief of the fire department, Mayor of Geneva. Louis Klopfer, merchant. Charles Henry Sweeney, industrialist and realtor. Dr. Nelson B. Covert, physician and one of the founders of Geneva City Hospital. Matthew D. Bennett, farmer and founder of large Geneva family. John Boynton Dixon, tile and brick maker, inventor of valuable improvements in the manufacture of clay products. William H. Williams, emigrant from Massachusetts, lumberman and civic servant. Henry Cook, emigrant from England, farmer. Dr. James Carlton Carson, physician and educator. Lemuel Herendeen, nurseryman, early president of the village of Geneva. David H. Henry, nurseryman and manufacturer, a founder of the Geneva Cutlery Co. Alfred George Lewis, for many years proprietor of the magnificent White Springs Farm. Charles, George and Frank Fairfax, all prominent in civic affairs, were founders of a wall-paper industry in the late 1800's.

Finger Lakes TImes Monday, March 24, 2003 What’s in a (ROAD) name? Some area road names are cloaked in legend; others are simply descriptive By MATT REYNOLDS Times Staff Writer PALMYRA — Barbara Keyser has a method for getting rid of telemarketers. When they ask for her address, she puts on her thickest Southern accent and answers, “Why that’d be 4769 Hogback Hill Road. “After that, they usually hang up,” she says. “Which is odd, because what telemarketer just hangs up?” Such is the mystique of Palmyra’s Hogback Hill Road, a three-mile country way with a motorcycle racing track, two hills, 35 homes, no visible hogs, and a reputation for being a poor and spooky backwoods. “Many people, not just telemarketers, make all kinds of assumptions when they hear the address,” Keyser said. “Basically, they think we’re all hicks out here.” Historians say the majority of area roads bear the names of families who once lived on them. But Wayne and other local counties are strewn with bizarre and quaint exceptions. Names like Chicken Coop Road in Covert, Bear Swamp Road in Williamson, and Mt. Pleasant Road in Lyons. Most have a story behind them, stories that don’t always mesh with the way life on the roads has turned out. “It always raises an eyebrow when I give my address,” said Benjamin Pitcher, 75, of 1072 Whiskey Hill Road, Waterloo. Not much booze flows these days on Whiskey Hill, home mostly to farmers, retirees and at least two Amish families, but legend has it a saloon once stood where the road meets Route 318. Another version of the story has it that farmers who lived along it used to distill whiskey from wheat and corn, and ship it by wagon to the canal. “Apparently they got a better price by turning their crops into alcohol,” said Pitcher. “Also it was probably safer to drink whiskey back then than water.” Keyser, 50; and her husband, Ted, 59; have spent 18 years living “high on the ‘Hog.’” Their ranch home has a satellite Internet connection, an in-ground swimming pool, geothermal heating system and manicured grounds. This Hogback is geological slang for a sharp ridge with steeply sloping sides. Their road is intersected by two such ridges, which look like mini-drumlins from a distance. Similar topography also explains the names of the Hogback roads in the towns of Butler and Savannah. Stoney Lonesome Road, in Williamson, formerly called Delass Road, was named because it is stony — literally ridden with stones — and lonesome, five miles from the hamlet of Williamson and sparsely settled. But it wasn’t until the early 1900s that four farmers’ daughters welded those two traits into one name. “They traveled everyday to school in Williamson,” said town historian Chester Peters. “When people asked them where they were from, they said the stoney, lonesome road.” An alternate version of the story includes a young, solitary girl walking one night to a relative’s home in Pultneyville. The road then was little more than a dirt path through the woods, and to find her way home, she dropped stones as she went along. Not far from Stoney Lonesome Road is Bear Swamp Road, which crosses former swampland that was drained, divided into parcels and is today mostly used for farming. Peters said he supposes bear used to roam near it. He had no explanation for Owls Nest Road in East Williamson. Mt. Pleasant Road in Lyons, as the name suggests, crests a hill with a pleasant view. Fink Road, also in Lyons, was named after a family of outhouse cleaners who moonlighted hauling away the carcasses of dead animals. One of the region’s better-known gaffes (or acts of graft) has to do with the pre-emption roads. After the Revolutionary War, New York and Massachusetts, both of whose royal charters granted land rights west to the Pacific Ocean, settled a dispute over what is today Western New York by drawing a line from the Pennsylvania line northward to Lake Ontario. Col. Hugh Maxwell was hired in 1788 to mark that line with a road. It should have run from the center of Seneca Lake north to Lake Ontario, but by the time he got to Geneva, he was at least two miles off. Three years later, New York and Massachusetts built a second Pre-Emption Road, which has since become Pre-Emption Street in Geneva and Townline Road in Phelps. “There are many theories about what went wrong for Maxwell,” said John Marks, curator at the Geneva Historical Society. “He either didn’t compensate for magnetic north, was constantly drunk on rum and whiskey, or was paid by someone to make the mistake.” Perhaps the Finger Lakes’ most literal name belongs to a ghost road few people even know about, according to Savannah historian John Spellman. In the mid-1930s, laborers from the federal Works Progress Administration showed up to build a road and bridge across Crusoe Lake in Savannah. The lake is two feet of open water floating atop a bog about a mile long and some 900 feet across. Workers arrived in the summer, and by fall, had built the bridge across two-thirds of the lake, when one morning, they showed up to find everything was gone. Literally everything — not just small items like their gloves, shovels and pails. Dump trucks, steam shovels and most importantly, the road itself, had vanished. After much confusion, it was determined that the road and tools had sunk into the bog during the night. The project was abandoned and today only a faint impression of a carpath survives from Cotton Road to the lake’s edge — known locally as Submarine Road.

I would like to know if there is anyone who has or can get access to this book to do some look-ups for me. I know my families are in this book as I had another Bryant researcher who had copied a few pages which he shared.( I have pgs190-201). The names I am searching are BRYANT, CREQUE, and DE MUN(N),- DE MUND - DE MOND. I am also interested in anyone who may be buried with them. My sincere appreciation to all may God Bless, Deb

I can look these up for you, it will take me some time to do it as I know that there are quite a few Creque's in there as I have looked for them my self. Marsha E. Smith Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Rosenbaum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: [NYFL] Re: Some Cemeteries of the Between the Lakes Country > I would like to know if there is anyone who has or can get access > to this book to do some look-ups for me. I know my families are in > this book as I had another Bryant researcher who had copied a few > pages which he shared.( I have pgs190-201). > The names I am searching are BRYANT, CREQUE, and DE MUN(N),- DE > MUND - DE MOND. I am also interested in anyone who may be buried with > them. > My sincere appreciation to all > may God Bless, > Deb > > >

I don't do much scanning of newspaper articles. I find that by typing them in myself I actually read the material. Scanning makes it too easy to get the material where you want it, planning to really study it another day. Unfortunately, life doesn't work that way :) Tom Herson Ithaca, NY

I also have used the Textbridge engine at home for a while as a part of the Pagis pro software and have been reasonbly satisfied with cost/benefit ( for less that $100 after rebate). TEXT pages of old geno book sources that I shot a digital picture of (jpeg) I got into text file format (editable and searchable) ok. Be aware of copyrights, etc. Discussion below is right on. The conditon (clarity, column arrangement, etc) of the Source/original is very important. File format conversions and searching is difficult even for the experts. I just had a $500 expanded scanning office suite version (forget now who owns/licenses the underlying technology..perhaps Paperport/Scansoft/Xerox merging) purchased at my office recently for my needs of converting pdf documents, etc. to MS Word, and other file conversions. Works pretty well to scan numbers for analysis into Excel spreadsheet. Happy to provide particulars off line if asked as the quality of each component piece in the process plays a part. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel H. Weiskotten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [NYFL] Software > At 3/21/03 06:01 PM, Joan wrote: > > Does anyone know of any software out there that REALLY converts digital > >text images into searchable document format???? In particular, photocopies > >of old obits??? > > I've had software that CLAIMS it will convert digital to text, but I > > end up > >with two or three words per page that actually converts, and the rest is > >funky little symbols!! I'd LOVE to no longer have to transcribe ALL of my > >obits!! Joan: > > I do text scaning all the time, but the main problem is not with the > software, but with what is being scanned. > > It is called OCR, or Optical Character Recognition, and there a literally > scores of programs and scanners that can do this for you. Almost any > scanner nowadays comes with decent OCR software, although they tend to make > you go an extra step to set it up. Once done and running, it all depends > upon the quality of what you are scanning. > > The software does not work like your eyes and brain. It looks for > patterns, and when all it sees is smudges and grey, then you get > gibberish. The copy needs to be exceptionally clean (any dots will get > interpreted as characters, letters, numbers or punctuation) and if it is > fancy lettering or even regular text with tails it will not know what to do > with it. The letter M will scan as "ni" and S will be an 8. That s > typical even in a good scan. > > I have not worked with scanning of digital images of text, but know that > the same problems will result if things are not sharp and clear. I have > not found a way to scan newspaper clippings as the color and texture of the > paper will knock out any chance you have of scanning just the letters. I > have had success in photocopying and enlarging the clipping (lighter and > 200%) which allows for clearer reading of the letters, but often there is > little that can be done to clean it up enough to OCR scan it. The time > that you spend cleaning it up would be as well spent just retyping it. > > For many years I have been using TextBridge by ScanSoft, but it came with > my scanner 6 or 7 years ago and I can't find a decent modern version that > is not expensive and buried in with a package of other programs that I > don't need. I have another program at work, but it is also buried in the > scanning software and I'm not sure what it is. Our HP printer has OCR > scanning capabilites but you had to load it all seperately and then it is > not a flat bed scanner and when it feeds the document it skews (or shreds) > the original and can't read it. > > One of our volunteers just paid a small fortune for a small hand-held > scanner that was touted as being great for scanning newsprint, but all it > does is make a fuzzy .JPG image that is useless. It wasn't even good as a > glorified copier. > > If you can, make a photocopy and clean up and enlarge the original, set the > dots per inch (dpi) high (300 or more) and make sure everything is > perfectly square on the scanning bed. Then there is still no guarantee > that it will do what you want. > > One of my recent projects is to scan a 1901 local history. I tried again > and again to scan a reprint of it as I did not have an original and I > didn't want to do it to the local library's original copy. Although the > reprint was quite clean, the lettering had darkedend and blured in the copy > process, so I got nothing but garbage each time. I did luck out recently > when the very book I needed came up on e-bay and I wa able to get it for a > mere $7.50 (dealer value of over $100.00!) and I have carefully been > scanning with incredible success for the past few weeks. > > I am also having some of my volunteers retype a lot of the old newspaper > and newsletter articles in our verticle files, so that we can reprint them > and also do searches and use them iun research. OCR scanning just didn't > work so they are having to type them manually. I am lucky to have > recruited a number of people who love to type and learn history! Bless > their hearts and fingers! > > Dan W. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/ > > Also, the Assistant Director of the Chesterfield Historical Society of Virginia > (where I get to do history for a living and have lots of great > Volunteers to work with!) > (If I could just sucker them into doing my Cazenovia > research for me ...) > > > > > > At 3/21/03 06:01 PM, you wrote: > > Does anyone know of any software out there that REALLY converts digital > >text images into searchable document format???? In particular, photocopies > >of old obits??? > > I've had software that CLAIMS it will convert digital to text, but I > > end up > >with two or three words per page that actually converts, and the rest is > >funky little symbols!! I'd LOVE to no longer have to transcribe ALL of my > >obits!! >

LISLE GLEANER Eugene Davis Publisher Lisle, Broome Co. New York January 19, 1881 No. 2 NEWS AND COMMENTS Stalwarts win. It pays to be a stalwart man. Tom PLATT will soon be as big a man as Roscoe. Nearly all the quail in in New Jersey have been killed by the cold. Jack Frost and Henry GLOVER'S gun are each sure death to quail. William H. VANDERBILT gave each of his daughters a Christmas present of 1,000 shares of Lake Shore stock. We would rather enjoy being one of William's daughters. During December the public debt decreased $5,699,430.76. In the same time our individual debt decreased $0,000.10 This government seems to be doing better than we are. But then, there is one dollar due us on subscription, yet. Sullivan county is without a judge. If they will make it worth our while, i.e., "come down with ducats," we will forego our prospective fortune here in Lisle and go down and dose out justice for them. We shall not urge the matter, though. A wealthy stockman down in Texas was shot by his brother, and before he died he willed $1,000. cash and considerable town property to his murderer, fortunately for our brothers they are too much like us - ain't worth a cent. How is that, Cal? Nathan Orlando GREENFIELD has been sentenced to be hanged on the 17th day of February, this is the seventh time he has stood up and received the death sentence. Perhaps this isn't a chocking matter, but mustn't it be rather monotonous for GREENFIELD? It has been rumored that Gov. WALKER was intending to remove to New York But that gentleman informs us that Binghamton is his home, and furthermore, that Binghamton will always be his home in the future; to which we say good for Binghamton. There Governor, send up a cigar. The farmers in the town of Lisle do not hold any club meetings in the winter, nor any jubilees in the summer, why is it? They used to have pleasant and profitable, occasions both summer and winter, and the editor managed to get a free meal at the jubilees. Revive them, by all means. A man named Ripley LYNCH sued the city of Binghamton for damages received from a fall on a side walk, and was non-suited in court last week. Now he sues the Aldermen individually for neglect of duty in permitting the sidewalk to be in a dangerous condition. The result will be watched with interest. When we have a mild winter, and there is any sickness, how often we hear the remark, "If it would only come off cold, how much better it would be." Now, we have two months of steady severe weather, and yet we hear of epidemics raging all over the county. Doesn't this explode the theory that rosy health accompanies cold weather? The following from Whitney's Point correspondence of the DAILY LEADER, is susceptible of further explanation: "As yet the gentlemen from our sister village, Lisle, who has been here several days each week watching for some of our fellow townsman to break the law by fishing through the ice with hooks attached to a short handle, have not been successful. If any break the law here in this way we hope some of those Lisle fellows will catch them at it." Last Thursday afternoon, at the open court of Binghamton, the room was filled with men - something unusual unless an important case is on trial. Strangely enough two young women - inmates of a disreputable house - were brought in and sentenced to the Albany penitentiary. Stranger still, three quarters of the spectators lost all interest in the proceedings thereafter, and left the court room. Even Judge FOLLETT smiled as the crowd departed en masse in the "wake" of the frail women. MARRIED HODGES - GAYLORD At the residence of Miss Etta C. DAVIS in Lisle, Jan. 12, 1881, by W. L. PECK, Esq., Mr Frank HODGES to Miss Ida GAYLORD, both of Glen Aubrey. LAMB'S CORNERS ITEMS. The Diner Social, held at Mrs. Deronda EDWARDS Jan. 7th, was pleasant success and many thanks are due her for the friendly welcome extended to all, and also for the generous entertainment provided for her guests. Among those who favored the society with their presents were Rev. A. P. MERRILL, of Lamb's Corners and his son Patterson MERRILL of Canada. There were also representative from Lisle, Centre Lisle, Whitney's Point, Union, and Chenango Forks. Appropriated remarks were made by our pastor Mr. MERRILL, which was followed with the reading of a portion of scriptures and a prayer by the same. Several musical selections were well rendered, Mr. Patterson MERRILL presiding at the organ. Refreshments were served both afternoon and evening. The social in the evening was well attended, from which the sum of six dollars and fifteen cents was realized for the benefit of the Baptist society. The following is a list of the officers who were elected to serve the Baptist Sabbath school the ensuing year. Supt. - Deacon Charles SMITH. Ass't Supt. - George PHIPPS. Sec. - William D. FULLER. Treas. - I. T. LAMB. Chorister - M. E. RIGBY. Organist - Carrie RIGBY. Bible Class Teachers - A. ROSS, Elder MERRILL, G. PHIPPS, and Austin SMITH. Teachers - N. J. COUNCILMAN, Mrs. Charles SMITH, Mrs. M. E. RIGBY, and Mrs. C. G. BUSH. Henry DAYTON of Maine, New York, is teaching our school this winter, and is giving good satisfaction. He has a grammar school one evening in each week for his scholars. CENTER LISLE. Charles E. BROOKINS, who died on the 9th inst., after a short illness, was buried on Thursday last. He was 85 years of age. Rev. Mr. HUBBARD, officiated at the funeral. There will be, on Thursday night of this week, in the Congregational church, for the benefit of Rev. Horace HUBBARD, a donation, which is to be independent of his salary. All are cordially invited to attend. Scarlet fever and diphtheria seem to be have attacked several of our little folks of late. Under the care of Dr. Hall, each patient is recovering. Dan L. LUSK, son of Justice LUSK, who has been quite ill with scarlet fever, at Cortland, is improving. N. M. KINNEY one of our Leadville boys, put in his appearance in this village on Tuesday last. Judging from the looks of "Speeler" we should say that lofty elevation and thin air did not agree with him. We understand that Nate will resume his former occupation in the gun shop of L. C. SMITH, Syracuse, and live a contented life. Cyrus ORTON is home again on a visit from the West. Considerable quantity of ice is being taken from the pond near the tannery, and also from Owen Hill pond. The funeral of William RIGHTMIRE ex-sheriff of Tioga county, took place at Berkshire on Friday last. Several relatives from this place attended. Bill Grummons [email protected]

true it don't make sense, because you can have correct spellings but is NOT the original spelling as stated in original document. What a pain checking every word. (thanks goodness for Textbridge 9.0 that I can spot out-of-way words using imaged portions as I go along.) David SAmuelsen, New York FM, USGenWeb Archives [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/21/03 8:51:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Even if the accuracy is 95%, you would still have to correct about every > > fourth or fifth word. > > That doesn't make sense. If you corrected about every fourth word wouldn't > that be a 25% error rate and accuracy of 75%? > > Tom Herson > Ithaca, NY

There's Textbridge 9.0 now. more features. Came with the new scanner I bought to replace my old one which had Textbridge 5.0 Can buy stand alone direct from http://www.textbridge.com/ same company also sell Paper Port If you have Visioneer brand scanner - they are automatically included in new models. I got model 8920 USB "One Touch" hint, don't use "one touch" feature in this model. Use the ones in computer instead. I use it to scan digitalized scan images from microfilms. Not all scans will come good. Some are so horrible that typing is only way to deal with that. Newspapers - they are worst due to yellowing and interesting font styles. David Samuelsen, FM New York, USGenWeb Archives "Daniel H. Weiskotten" wrote: > > I do text scaning all the time, but the main problem is not with the > software, but with what is being scanned. > > It is called OCR, or Optical Character Recognition, and there a literally > scores of programs and scanners that can do this for you. Almost any > scanner nowadays comes with decent OCR software, although they tend to make > you go an extra step to set it up. Once done and running, it all depends > upon the quality of what you are scanning. > > The software does not work like your eyes and brain. It looks for > patterns, and when all it sees is smudges and grey, then you get > gibberish. The copy needs to be exceptionally clean (any dots will get > interpreted as characters, letters, numbers or punctuation) and if it is > fancy lettering or even regular text with tails it will not know what to do > with it. The letter M will scan as "ni" and S will be an 8. That s > typical even in a good scan. > > I have not worked with scanning of digital images of text, but know that > the same problems will result if things are not sharp and clear. I have > not found a way to scan newspaper clippings as the color and texture of the > paper will knock out any chance you have of scanning just the letters. I > have had success in photocopying and enlarging the clipping (lighter and > 200%) which allows for clearer reading of the letters, but often there is > little that can be done to clean it up enough to OCR scan it. The time > that you spend cleaning it up would be as well spent just retyping it. > > For many years I have been using TextBridge by ScanSoft, but it came with > my scanner 6 or 7 years ago and I can't find a decent modern version that > is not expensive and buried in with a package of other programs that I > don't need. I have another program at work, but it is also buried in the > scanning software and I'm not sure what it is. Our HP printer has OCR > scanning capabilites but you had to load it all seperately and then it is > not a flat bed scanner and when it feeds the document it skews (or shreds) > the original and can't read it. > > One of our volunteers just paid a small fortune for a small hand-held > scanner that was touted as being great for scanning newsprint, but all it > does is make a fuzzy .JPG image that is useless. It wasn't even good as a > glorified copier. > > If you can, make a photocopy and clean up and enlarge the original, set the > dots per inch (dpi) high (300 or more) and make sure everything is > perfectly square on the scanning bed. Then there is still no guarantee > that it will do what you want. > > One of my recent projects is to scan a 1901 local history. I tried again > and again to scan a reprint of it as I did not have an original and I > didn't want to do it to the local library's original copy. Although the > reprint was quite clean, the lettering had darkedend and blured in the copy > process, so I got nothing but garbage each time. I did luck out recently > when the very book I needed came up on e-bay and I wa able to get it for a > mere $7.50 (dealer value of over $100.00!) and I have carefully been > scanning with incredible success for the past few weeks. > > I am also having some of my volunteers retype a lot of the old newspaper > and newsletter articles in our verticle files, so that we can reprint them > and also do searches and use them iun research. OCR scanning just didn't > work so they are having to type them manually. I am lucky to have > recruited a number of people who love to type and learn history! Bless > their hearts and fingers! > > Dan W. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/

In a message dated 3/21/03 8:51:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Even if the accuracy is 95%, you would still have to correct about every > fourth or fifth word. That doesn't make sense. If you corrected about every fourth word wouldn't that be a 25% error rate and accuracy of 75%? Tom Herson Ithaca, NY

At 3/21/03 06:01 PM, Joan wrote: > Does anyone know of any software out there that REALLY converts digital >text images into searchable document format???? In particular, photocopies >of old obits??? > I've had software that CLAIMS it will convert digital to text, but I > end up >with two or three words per page that actually converts, and the rest is >funky little symbols!! I'd LOVE to no longer have to transcribe ALL of my >obits!! Joan: I do text scaning all the time, but the main problem is not with the software, but with what is being scanned. It is called OCR, or Optical Character Recognition, and there a literally scores of programs and scanners that can do this for you. Almost any scanner nowadays comes with decent OCR software, although they tend to make you go an extra step to set it up. Once done and running, it all depends upon the quality of what you are scanning. The software does not work like your eyes and brain. It looks for patterns, and when all it sees is smudges and grey, then you get gibberish. The copy needs to be exceptionally clean (any dots will get interpreted as characters, letters, numbers or punctuation) and if it is fancy lettering or even regular text with tails it will not know what to do with it. The letter M will scan as "ni" and S will be an 8. That s typical even in a good scan. I have not worked with scanning of digital images of text, but know that the same problems will result if things are not sharp and clear. I have not found a way to scan newspaper clippings as the color and texture of the paper will knock out any chance you have of scanning just the letters. I have had success in photocopying and enlarging the clipping (lighter and 200%) which allows for clearer reading of the letters, but often there is little that can be done to clean it up enough to OCR scan it. The time that you spend cleaning it up would be as well spent just retyping it. For many years I have been using TextBridge by ScanSoft, but it came with my scanner 6 or 7 years ago and I can't find a decent modern version that is not expensive and buried in with a package of other programs that I don't need. I have another program at work, but it is also buried in the scanning software and I'm not sure what it is. Our HP printer has OCR scanning capabilites but you had to load it all seperately and then it is not a flat bed scanner and when it feeds the document it skews (or shreds) the original and can't read it. One of our volunteers just paid a small fortune for a small hand-held scanner that was touted as being great for scanning newsprint, but all it does is make a fuzzy .JPG image that is useless. It wasn't even good as a glorified copier. If you can, make a photocopy and clean up and enlarge the original, set the dots per inch (dpi) high (300 or more) and make sure everything is perfectly square on the scanning bed. Then there is still no guarantee that it will do what you want. One of my recent projects is to scan a 1901 local history. I tried again and again to scan a reprint of it as I did not have an original and I didn't want to do it to the local library's original copy. Although the reprint was quite clean, the lettering had darkedend and blured in the copy process, so I got nothing but garbage each time. I did luck out recently when the very book I needed came up on e-bay and I wa able to get it for a mere $7.50 (dealer value of over $100.00!) and I have carefully been scanning with incredible success for the past few weeks. I am also having some of my volunteers retype a lot of the old newspaper and newsletter articles in our verticle files, so that we can reprint them and also do searches and use them iun research. OCR scanning just didn't work so they are having to type them manually. I am lucky to have recruited a number of people who love to type and learn history! Bless their hearts and fingers! Dan W. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/ Also, the Assistant Director of the Chesterfield Historical Society of Virginia (where I get to do history for a living and have lots of great Volunteers to work with!) (If I could just sucker them into doing my Cazenovia research for me ...) At 3/21/03 06:01 PM, you wrote: > Does anyone know of any software out there that REALLY converts digital >text images into searchable document format???? In particular, photocopies >of old obits??? > I've had software that CLAIMS it will convert digital to text, but I > end up >with two or three words per page that actually converts, and the rest is >funky little symbols!! I'd LOVE to no longer have to transcribe ALL of my >obits!!

I haven't tried to use it extensively but the version of Textbridge OCR software that comes with a lot of scanners seems to do a fair to good job. The more expensive versions are supposed to be better. I have found that I have to experiment a lot with the contrast and brightness of the scan to get optimal results. Even if the accuracy is 95%, you would still have to correct about every fourth or fifth word. A spell checker usually finds most errors. I recently tried to use the OCR software for a long list of names and gave up. OCR software was obviously used for sites like Making of America and some of the things on Ancestry.com. I would guess that they are both much better than 99% accurate but there are still errors. I don't know whether they have people proof reading them. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYFL] Software Hi all, Does anyone know of any software out there that REALLY converts digital text images into searchable document format???? In particular, photocopies of old obits??? I've had software that CLAIMS it will convert digital to text, but I end up with two or three words per page that actually converts, and the rest is funky little symbols!! I'd LOVE to no longer have to transcribe ALL of my obits!! THANKS! Joan ______________________________

Hi all, Does anyone know of any software out there that REALLY converts digital text images into searchable document format???? In particular, photocopies of old obits??? I've had software that CLAIMS it will convert digital to text, but I end up with two or three words per page that actually converts, and the rest is funky little symbols!! I'd LOVE to no longer have to transcribe ALL of my obits!! THANKS! Joan

THE LISLE GLEANER Eugene Davis Publisher. Lisle, Broome Co. New York January 19th 1881 OUR LOCAL MATTERS An old book containing records of the town of Lisle from about 1808 to 1844 is missing from the town clerk's office. Will each reader of this be sure it isn't around his premises! It is important that this book is preserved, and if anyone can enlighten the town clerk as to it's whereabouts', such information will be gladly received. OUR SCRAP BOOK Eugene SWEAZEY spent the Sabbath in Union. We do wish we could use some of that subscription wood Special revival services are continued in the M. E. church this week. The days are growing longer, a reminder that winter is half gone. Miss Anna HOLADAY, of Newark Valley spent the Sabbath in town. A very pleasant social party was held in Lewis Hall last Wednesday evening We are indebted to Ashley WILLIAMS and Fred ROBINSON for calendars. Good boys. Henry SMITH has the champion cat, "Whitey," weighing fifteen and one half pounds. Messrs, Geo. BASSETT and son have recently been adding to their machinery - a new lathe. We notice Mr. Fred JOHNSON is on the road with double team selling goods for A. LEWIS & SON. Mr. and Mrs. Henry SMITH left Monday for a two weeks visit to Madison Co. They went with team. Prof. DEYO of Whitney's Point, attended the entertainment at Academy Hall, last Friday. Donation at Centre Lisle, Thursday evening, for the benefit of Rev. Mr. HUBBARD. Our Lisle people are invited. The next session of the Lisle S. S. Association will be held in the Congregational church in this village, on Saturday of next week. Letters remaining in Lisle post-office uncalled for: Mrs. R. GREEN, Mrs. Lucinda M. MAXUM, and Mrs. Lydia M. LEWIS. - W. L. PECK, P. M. A donation for the benefit of Rev. C. A. BENJAMIN will be held at the residence of Dwight FRENCH on Wednesday evening of next week, January 26th All are invited. Mrs. Lydia F. ALLEN died in Berkshire last Tuesday at the age of 76 years. She was formerly a resident of this town - being the mother of Saml. N. ALLEN and Dr. James ALLEN. We enjoyed an hour or two with Profs. CAPEN and MILNE last Friday afternoon. Naturally these gentlemen are feeling happy over Judge MARTIN'S decision of the school matter. The proceedings of the Board of Supervisors, printed by M. D. BRANDAY & SONS have been distributed among the tax payers. The job is the credit to our friends at Whitney Point. The last Quarterly meeting of the present conference year will be held at the M. E. church, Centre Lisle, on Saturday and Sabbath, January 29, and 30th. This will be the last official visit of Rev. L. C. FLOYD as Presiding Elder of the district. On Friday last a narrow escape from a conflagration occurred at the residence of Dea. E. K. SMITH. The chimney burned out, and the fire communicated to timbers adjoining it which were so located that the fire burned for a considerable time before it could be found and extinguished. Several of our exchanges announced that there is a new law upon the statute books for the State of New York requiring bells to be used where a horse or horses are attached to a sleigh traveling any thoroughfares of the State. Will some of them please inform us where the law can be found - in what year it was passed? On Friday evening last a donation visit for the benefit of Elder TYLER was held at the residence of Jonas C. SILTER, at Japhet Hollow. An oyster supper enjoyed by old and young and "tripping the lights fantastic too." by the younger portion, made the occasion one of enjoyment for all. The receipts amounted to $55.18. Professors MILNE and CAPEN visited our school last Friday afternoon, and the inform us that we have one of the best places of learning there is in this section. The classes are well taught; the order is perfect; the pupils were hard at work and thoroughly interested, and everything in fact, as it should be. They speak in high terms of Professor DYKE, pronouncing him a thorough and progressive teacher, all of which we can heartily agree. The donation in Upper Lisle for Dr. R. O. WILLIAMS was admirable in its spirit and its enjoyments Though the weather was quite unfavorable, the house was crowded to its fullest capacity. The amount raised was $109. and a few cents over. All classes joined in paying their receipts to the pastor of the Universal church - Church of the Restoration - in Upper Lisle. The Trustees of the society, in behalf of the church and society, tender thanks to all classes especially to the Baptist brotherhood who kindly joined with their presence and their donations in this ovation to the pastor of the church and his family. DEATH OF MILO B. ELDREDGE Col, Milo B. ELDRIDGE, of Whitney's Point, died in the Utica Insane Asylum last Friday afternoon at about 8 o'clock. The particulars of his illness and removal to the asylum have already been published in this paper. Friday afternoon word was telegraphed he was worse, and Mrs. ELDRIDGE went to the depot to take the train to Utica, but before it arrived a dispatch came announcing his death. Col. ELDRIDGE was well known throughout the county, having, we understand, resided here during his lifetime, - about 49 years. He was principle of the Carroll street school, Binghamton in 1860-61, and upon the breaking out of the war he recruited a company for the 109th regiment, and was commissioned as its captain. For meritorious service he was promoted Major, and at the close of the war he was brevetted Lieutenant-Colonel. In 1865 he was elected Member of Assembly from Broome county and has since been a candidate for County Clerk, and for School Commissioner. In about 1874 he started the NIOGA REPORTER at Whitney Point, and conducted it for two years or thereabouts, when he sold out to M. D. BRANDAY. Since then, until his illness, he has done, something in the insurance business, and has also been Secretary of the County Agricultural Society.. Col. ELDRIDGE was a gentleman who won the friendship of all with whom he became acquainted, being genial, sociable, and generous to a fault. While we were in direct competition with him in business. he on several occasions personally recommended the GLEANER to some of his business men of the Point as a good advertising medium and to have we been indebted for some fair printing that we would not otherwise have had. We deeply sympathize with his family in their affliction. Bill Grummons [email protected]

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Dear Annette, I was pleased to receive a reply from you. I'm glad we made contact again! Thanks for looking up the Campbell's in Yates County. I was hoping to get a hit on Stephen Campbell in Yates County because his marriage certificate to Anna, dated 1900, lists his residence as Bellona and his birthplace as Benton Center . I was also really hoping to find some of the Albertson's, especially Anna (my primary focus for this inquiry), around the time of her birth, circa 1882. My data indicates the Albertson's were long-time residents of Yates County. [NOTE: The most reliable data I have in my possession (Anna's marriage certificate to Stephen Campbell) lists Anna's parents as Charles Albertson and Mary Anderson, for whom I don't yet have any information or data.] Anna was married to Stephen Campbell on 27 March 1900 according to the copy of their marriage license I possess. They had three children: Clarence (1902)(my grandfather), Lillian (1904), and Eliza (1906), all born in Ontario County, presumably. According to reports I've received from other NY local researchers (I've not checked this myself), Stephen is listed in the 1910 Federal Census, BY HIMSELF! Anna and the children are not listed with him. Stephen is also listed in the 1920 Federal Census as an "Inmate" at Willard State Hospital, AS A WIDOWER; again, no Anna. Where was Anna in 1910?? Did she die before that year? Where were her children by Stephen Campbell in 1910? With whom were they living? Those are some of the mysteries I'd like to solve. If Anna died, I'd like to know when so I can request a death certificate from the NY Vital Records office in Albany before the rates go up on April 1, 2003! Stephen was re-married to a woman named Rhoda Bundy Stark (date unknown), by whom he had two more children: Eleanor (1920) and Vivian (1922). As best I can piece the data together, Stephen was in Willard when his first daughter by Rhoda Stark was born in March 1920 (the 1910 Federal Census was enumerated in January, showing Stephen at Willard. Supposedly, his discharge date from Willard was June 1920!) . Rhoda is reported to have died in 1927 leaving Stephen a widower once again. He's listed in the 1930 Federal Census as a widower. Stephen died in 1936. How did all this transpire? I'm looking for clues to help me answer this question. Would you check any records to which you have access that might help solve these mysteries, please? Thank you very much for your help. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Campbell" <[email protected]> To: "Chuck Campbell" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Anna Albertson > I don't have any Yates County Campbell's, except John who lived at Bluff > Point in Jerusalem from 1825-1830 and then moved to Bath and then on to > Canisteo in 1836 and then in 1869 to Michigan where he died. Annette > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clifford Morse" <[email protected]> > To: "Annette Campbell" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:38 AM > Subject: Fw: Anna Albertson > > > > Do you know anything about this? Jean Morse > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chuck Campbell" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:30 PM > > Subject: Anna Albertson > > > > > > Greetings All! > > > > I'm looking for help locating any information on my paternal > > great-grandparents, Stephen Campbell and Anna Albertson Campbell, please: > > > > Stephen Campbell > > > > b. 27 Mar 1875 at Benton Center, Yates County, NY > > m. 27 Mar 1900 at Geneva, Ontario County, NY > > d. 24 Apr 1936 at Canandaigua, Ontario County, NY > > > > Curious note: Stephen is listed on the 1920 Federal Census as an "Inmate" > > at Willard State Hospital, Town of Romulus, Seneca County, NY. My recent > > exhaustive effort to obtain information from his records was denied by the > > NY State Office of Mental Health (and so Orwell's "1984" begins!). > > > > Anna Albertson Campbell > > > > b. c. 1882 at "Angus", Yates County, NY (my grandfather's birth > certificate, > > 1902) or "Earl's", Yates County, NY (Anna's marriage license, 1900) > > m. 27 Mar 1900 at Geneva, Ontario County, NY (listed age = 18) > > d. ?? > > > > Note: Anna's last child from her marriage to Stephen was in 1906 in > Ontario > > County. > > She may have died in childbirth. Her husband, Stephen Campbell was listed > > in the 1920 Federal Census as a widower. > > > > Any and all help would be greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks. > > > > Chuck Campbell > > Monroe, NC > > > > > >

Re Bowne Do you know if the name is or was ever spelled Bourne Born, Bowen? Have lots of Bourn and Bowen names in our tree. Jan Nelson