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    1. [NYE] Proctors from Vermont
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Proctor and Cornell Classification: Birth Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/976 Message Board Post: I'm trying to locate what area of Vermont that Cyrus and Fanny Cornell Proctor were born.Any help is appreciated! Thank you!

    02/25/2002 05:30:46
    1. [NYE] Re: NYESSEX-D Digest V02 #50
    2. Lisa Yates
    3. I just wanted to let you know that I can also not find anything on my family. They are listed on an 1830 census, William O'Rourke, but that is all we find. He and his wife, Isabella had two children born there, William S. and Robert Rufus but there is no documentation of that. We find that on later censuses that list their place of birth. They supposedly lived in Chesterfield. My cousin traveled to Essex County from California and found nothing. Our only leads came from writing to Essex County and their response included copies of letters they had received from others researching the Rork and O'Rourke names. I have contacted both of those people and found one ancestor (or new cousin) from Iowa. It amazes me that people can live in an area and have two children but there is no trace of them on paper. While this probably not a help to anyone trying to find their family, at least you will know that you are not alone. Lisa Yates

    02/25/2002 12:03:26
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I would like to know where to look in my libirary or at the mormon libary. I'm at my wits end. I can't find anything on these great internet places.

    02/24/2002 08:59:12
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: No.I'm looking for a thomas call and Mary ann Chabot who where my great grandparents And I can't find no trace of them either.So what is going on .

    02/24/2002 08:51:09
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: The Call family is fairly prominent in the local history around Jay, and you can easily find (probably already have) other Call family researchers. I have never run across a Jay family, so my apologies. John Jay was the governor when Jay was created in 1798, and an 1885 History of Essex County notes that as the source of the name. Among the earliest families were Purmort and Mallory, followed by the Rogers family in the iron business.

    02/24/2002 08:45:13
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: call Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: thanks.

    02/24/2002 08:38:54
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Then why is my mother born in Jay, ny? hats all my grand father talked about. He worked for a Mr white that had a summer mansion there before the 1929 stock market crash. The manison was still standing there in in 1958 or 1959 because I saw it. Is there any Calls living in that area or Ausable forks or Ausable. Because I was there also.

    02/24/2002 08:35:23
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry, I'm talking about the Surname of Jay and not the town of Jay. Karen

    02/24/2002 08:35:22
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm a little confused by the posting, so forgive me if I'm misunderstanding. If you are looking for a Jay family associated with the Town of Jay, New York, there is none; it was named for the Supreme Court Justice John Jay.

    02/24/2002 08:17:20
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YRB.2ACE/971.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Mr. McKenna - The only thing I have done so far is send a letter (including SASE) to the Town Historian of Jay. I found the address on the Internet. To date, have not received a response. Basically, what I asked was if a death cert. from 1895 would be available in the town office, as it was not found at Albany. Sorry I have no better answer. Jamie Fugate

    02/24/2002 05:56:15
    1. [NYE] Re: DESLAURIER(S) / DELORIA
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Deslauriers/Bessette/Vinet/Vennette Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/243.1 Message Board Post: Have ancestors with surname Vinet dit Deslauriers. Married Bessette Lived near Chateaugay Quebec. Any connections?

    02/24/2002 04:36:18
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YRB.2ACE/971.1.2 Message Board Post: This is in response to Carl Kirchner, Jamie Fugate and anyone else who has experienced the frustration of obtaining death records from Jay, NY. I would like to learn from you what avenues you've tried? Did you speak with someone at the Jay, NY Town Offices? Did you visit their offices in Ausable Forks, NY? If you spoke with someone, who did you speak with? I would like to find out the "magic formula." Thanks

    02/24/2002 02:36:17
    1. [NYE] Re: Civil War
    2. My great grandfather, Thomas F. Witherbee of Port Henry, was a member of the 30th Pennsylvania Regimental Band and was about six miles from Gettysburg when that awful battle occurred. He had to go in afterward and help clean up the carnage. This is from a fascinating diary that he kept. Later he designed and managed Port Henry's Cedar Point Furnace and also founded the town's first band. He later went to Durango, Mexico to manage a mine there. He died in Durango and sadly is buried there rather than in the "Witherbee Circle" at Union Cemetery. BILL KNOWLTON

    02/23/2002 01:18:36
    1. Re: [NYE] Re: Civil War
    2. Margaret Morgan
    3. How did he end up managing the mine in Durango? What kind of mine was it? I have a family branch (Garvey) from Essex county that was involved in the mining business and I believe ran mines in Mexico and South America. Margaret Morgan

    02/23/2002 12:01:07
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: JAY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1.1 Message Board Post: I have not had any responses on any Jay's of New York. Bedford, NY did not have any record of my ggg grandfather, Dean Jay b. 1/21/1800. I cannot find anything on his father, the Rev. William Jay either or his mother Mary Livingstone Jay. Karen

    02/23/2002 09:10:16
    1. [NYE] Re: Jay, NY Death Records
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YRB.2ACE/971.1 Message Board Post: I don't know if you got any response from Jay,ny. I have been trying for the last 2 yrs. to finf info on my greatgrandparents. Good luck.

    02/23/2002 07:13:34
    1. [NYE] Cutler
    2. Ralph H. Cutler 1881-1976 born in Jay Essex NY was the son of James and Melissa Pettinger Cutler Ralph H. Cutler married my "Aunt Bess" Sanders. Jean

    02/23/2002 06:45:50
    1. [NYE] Cutler
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pettinger,Cutler,Parrish,Barton,Lytle,Hall,Slater,Kennedy,etc. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YRB.2ACE/975 Message Board Post: Jane I would love to talk to you regarding your Cutler line. I believe we could help each other. Would love to hear from you.

    02/22/2002 09:45:34
    1. Re: [NYE] Re: murdocks
    2. brauck
    3. Hi, K... You probably already have all these details, however, just in case....... James A Murdock Service Record: Promoted to Full Comm? Sergeant Enlisted as a Private on 17 September 1861 in Crown Point, NY at the age of 22 Enlisted in Company H, 5th Cavalry Regiment New York on 18 October 1861 Promoted to Full Lieutenant 2nd Class on 28 May 1864 Mustered out on 18 October 1864 Sources: New York: Report of the Adjutant-General. (NYRoster) Published in 1894-1906 Laura apparently was the WIFE of Juba Howe. To clarify, you may want to contact either: Carol Blais at: [email protected] or: Sue Moore at: [email protected] . Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:12 PM Subject: [NYE] Re: murdocks > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YRB.2ACE/42.89.1.1.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Thank-you for this great information. I am trying to find out the names and birthdates of Samuel F. Murdock's children. Also I had a question---I thought Samuel's wife's maiden was Laura Howe. I thought she was the adopted daughter of Juba Howe. Do I have this Laura mixed up with someone else? I noticed that your records show Laura as being a Snell. Anyways I just found some information on James A. Murdock's service in the NY 5th Regiment Calvary Co. H. I thought it was interesting and will share here. It is from "Crown Point, New York, In The Civil War" Compiled by Elmer Eugene Barker 1961. Barker quotes this episode from some remininces of Elmer Barker (a soldier in the NY 5th): > > "Another instance of the treatment of private property in time of war concerns the behavior of two Crown Point men. They exhibited a nobility of character and a bravery greater, perhaps, than shown in facing the perils of battle. Barker [Elmer Barker] tells: > 'One night while encamped near Bridgewater northeast of Staunton, Colonel Megs, one of Sheridan's staff officers, was shot and killed near headquarters. It was supposed to have been done by somebody who pretended to be a citizen, or by some of Mosby's men. The next morning General Sheridan issued an order to burn every house within a radius of two miles. This included the village of Bridgewater. People began immediately moving things out of their houses. No men were at home, only women and children. It seemed to me a most cruel order. Very soon I was ordered to take my company and burn a large brick house near our camp, which I refused to do. Major Krom, commanding the regiment, argued with me. I told him I did not come down there to burn houses over defenseless women and children, and refused to obey his order. This was a serious matter for an officer to refuse to obey orders, and Major Krom was so nonplussed, he did not know what to do. Finally he rode over to Division Hea! > dquarters and reported to General Custer, who told Krom to place me under arrest, which he did. Then the command devolved on Lieutenant JAMES MURDOCK. Krom ordered him out and he refused to obey the order. He also was placed under arrest. While this was going on the order was countermanded. My stubbornness saved several homes, but my fate was unsettled. All this time Lieutenant Murdock and I were following along under arrest, but we still retained our arms...' > During the next few days the regiment was very active and engaged in considerable fighting, these two officers still being under nominal arrest. Their insubordination had occurred about the 28th of September, but no action had been taken on it. > [From Elmer Barker again]: > 'On October 18 Lieutenant Murdock and four or five of my company whose time had expired, were discharged and returned home.' (Pages 32-33). Barker, whose enlistment was not up, ended up staying and was put back into command of the second battalion which went right into the battle of Cedar Creek. > > Isn't that an interesting bit of history on James Murdock? I am still reading through this book and if I find any more info on James Murdock---I will surely let you know. Thanks for all the great info. Do you by any chance know the names and birthdates of Samuel F. Murdock's children? > > > > ==== NYESSEX Mailing List ==== > Check out www.familysearch.org, newly updated format.. > See our Essex County web page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex > Se the List photo album at: > http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=50490066103&n=2135404953 > For new Query system click: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex/genboard/index.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/22/2002 07:02:33
    1. [NYE] Re: Moses Knowlton: Civil War
    2. I'm trying to find out the Civil War record of my great grandfather, Moses Adam Knowlton, of Essex NY (1828-1909). Family lore has him as part of the Union Naval blockade of the South, but I cannot find out if he was in the Navy, or a civilian skipper or crew member. He returned to Essex and later Vergennes VT where he was a steamboat pilot on Lake Champlain. One of his boats was the "Nymph." He is buried in Lakeview Cemetery, Essex. Bill Knowlton

    02/21/2002 12:05:15