Dianne's idea seems sound. Is PAUL her maiden name? If so, maybe you could find her parents on the index of New York passengers for 1820-1846. Here is the reference: Index to passenger lists of vessels arriving at New York, 1820-1846 : National Archives microfilm publications, pamphlet accompanying microcopy no. 261 Available at NARA (I've seen it at the New York City office -- it may be at other branches) Also available at the Family History Library: 973 J53m no. 261 - FHL US/CAN Book - Available 973 J53m no. 261-267 - FHL US/CAN - Available It is also on 103 rolls of microfilm at the FHL. I don't have the film notes handy, so I can't tell you which roll you need to order. George >Why do you think Mary was born in New York? > >My Regina/Rachael Langenfeld's census reports often stated that she >was born in New York, but instead, she came to the U.S. in 1831 from >Hanviller, Germany/France when she was about one year old. I was >thrown for a very long time, looking for her birth record in the U.S. > >Maybe go back and examine the premise? Where is the birthplace of >Mary's parents? Did they come from another country? Where is the >ship record? You might just find Mary on that ship. > >Dianne > >----- Original Message ----- From: "grace w gathman" <wallace26@juno.com> >To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:50 AM >Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Bader/Schmidt plus Paul > >>Zona has her Bader, Jillaine has her Leonard, and I have my Mary/Maria >>PAUL. I would give almost anything to find her birth in NY. I know, for >>as sure as one can be, that she was born July 4, 1832 in Erie County, NY. >>I have her on all further census and state records etc after 1860 in the >>UP of Michigan. Her subsequent "paper trail" has her date of birth as >>1832. If anyone has any ideas where I might find her I would be eternally >>grateful. I have had a researcher from the list try, and he was unable to >>find her. Thanks, this is a great list. Grace >> >> >>==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >>List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >>My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ >>Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> >>============================== >>Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > > >==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ >Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx