I hate to correct Cynthia but the Erie Co. Pen. was in existence in 1930 in Alden. It is on the 1930 census at ED 15-356 in the town of Alden, Millgrove PO. It was located in the building that the Wende State Correctional Facility occupies today at the corner of Walden Ave. & Wende Rd. The "new" pen was built, I think, in the 1980`s & it is just down the road from the old one. You might write to inquire about the availability of records from the 1930`s. The address is: Erie County Correctional Facility (Erie County Penitentiary) 11581 Walden Avenue Alden, NY 14004 Pat R. ----- Original Message ----- From: CHARLES SIMONS <CHUCK_SIMONS@msn.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:10 pm Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Alden Prision 1930 > > actual census document accessed via Ancestry.com says prisoner > > my grandparents had their own still during prohibition days > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cynthia Van Ness<mailto:bettybarcode@yahoo.com> > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Alden Prision 1930 > > > I bet the census says she was an "inmate" and not a "prisoner." > Today we would use the word "patient." She was probably living > at the Erie County Home and Infirmary in Alden. > > --- CHARLES SIMONS > <chuck_simons@msn.com<mailto:chuck_simons@msn.com>> wrote: > > > one of my relatives was in prison in 1930 . the 1930 census > > record just says she was a prisoner and the town was Alden > > > > 1. what prison would that be > > > > 2. how would one go about looking up to see what the person > > was in prison for (though we do have a hunch) > > > > chuck > > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > > List Administrator: Dick Rose > <dtrose@cox.net<mailto:dtrose@cox.net>> > My Genealogy: > http://members.cox.net/dtrose/<http://members.cox.net/dtrose/> > > Archived Messages at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > > family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > > months. > > Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd .ashx> > > > > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > www.buffaloresearch.com<http://www.buffaloresearch.com/> > "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: > So much has been destroyed > I have to cast my lot with those > who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary > power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose > <dtrose@cox.net<mailto:dtrose@cox.net>> My Genealogy: > http://members.cox.net/dtrose/<http://members.cox.net/dtrose/> > Archived Messages at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family > and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd .ashx> > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family > and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I stand humbly corrected. I briefly worked in the Erie County Correctional Facility as a librarian in the 1980s facility in Alden. My boss used to tell tales of the old holding center downtown, which became in my mind the horror that the Alden facility improved upon. Of course, there is a new holding center downtown as well and the two facilities are separate. Thanks, Pat. --- prodger1@rochester.rr.com wrote: > I hate to correct Cynthia but the Erie Co. Pen. was in > existence in > 1930 in Alden. It is on the 1930 census at ED 15-356 in the > town of > Alden, Millgrove PO. It was located in the building that the > Wende > State Correctional Facility occupies today at the corner of > Walden Ave. > & Wende Rd. The "new" pen was built, I think, in the 1980`s & > it is > just down the road from the old one. You might write to > inquire about > the availability of records from the 1930`s. The address is: > Erie County Correctional Facility > (Erie County Penitentiary) > 11581 Walden Avenue > Alden, NY 14004 > > Pat R. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: CHARLES SIMONS <CHUCK_SIMONS@msn.com> > Date: Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:10 pm > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Alden Prision 1930 > > > > > actual census document accessed via Ancestry.com says > prisoner > > > > my grandparents had their own still during prohibition days > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Cynthia Van Ness<mailto:bettybarcode@yahoo.com> > > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Alden Prision 1930 > > > > > > I bet the census says she was an "inmate" and not a > "prisoner." > > Today we would use the word "patient." She was probably > living > > at the Erie County Home and Infirmary in Alden. > > > > --- CHARLES SIMONS > > <chuck_simons@msn.com<mailto:chuck_simons@msn.com>> wrote: > > > > > one of my relatives was in prison in 1930 . the 1930 > census > > > record just says she was a prisoner and the town was > Alden > > > > > > 1. what prison would that be > > > > > > 2. how would one go about looking up to see what the > person > > > was in prison for (though we do have a hunch) > > > > > > chuck > > > > > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > > > List Administrator: Dick Rose > > <dtrose@cox.net<mailto:dtrose@cox.net>> > My Genealogy: > > > http://members.cox.net/dtrose/<http://members.cox.net/dtrose/> > > > > Archived Messages at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > > > family and the > > > areas they lived. 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