Hi Ruth, Do you know how far the Perry Projects extend. I'm curious whether the houses that were used by my relatives are part of that or if the houses are still standing. Here are some of the homes on my list: 268 Fulton, 521 Elk, 357 Elk, 77 Manitoba, and 544 Perry I think the descendants have all moved away from the area since then. I always remember how the relatives use to talk about one another's financial position when the Buffalo relatives came to Hamilton. Those from Buffalo referred to the Hamilton relatives as rich. Those from Hamilton thought the Buffalo relatives were rich because they could travel. The reality was that most of them on both sides of the border were just surviving. My grandmother and her children would pool their money when the relatives were coming and a wonderful feast would be enjoyed by all. The Buffalo families would in turn pool their money to pay their travel expenses. Your right about this being an interesting topic. I may have instigated it but I think lots of us found out more about the history of Buffalo than we knew before and I dare say there are a few others out there that had people treated at this hospital. It certainly sounds like it was a very busy place in those days. Who was the doctor that signed the Record of Death. Mind was signed by Charles E. Long. I don't know if he worked at both hospitals but it is another clue to look into. Good Luck. Wish I was close enough to come to the Museum. Val On 2 May 2008 at 11:53, Ruth Madar <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built > for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a > year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really > bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were > renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. > Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna > area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce > where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, > then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the > police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if > he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to > reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. > That's how bad it is. > > Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in > 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. > As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't > say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel > Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death > notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is > there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living > in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built > as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so > many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were > mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for > steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to > check it out. I found this subject very interesting. > > At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana > >St. Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever. >

Any one of the descendants who lived in or near the projects, Trust us, Val, does NOT live anywhere near them now. I would feel safer walking down the street naked in Compton, California. Well, that's a slight exaggeration...but only slight. 268 Fulton is a park. 521 Elk is brownfields(how uncommon in Buffalo) 357 Elk is either a very large building or a parking lot depending on what side of the street it was on, 77 Manitoba is a large building, possibly a 2 to 4 flat house. and 544 Perry is still there, but not in the projects, but down the road from them. My guess is it was never officially part of the Projects, but it's close enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: Val<mailto:[email protected]> To: Ruth Madar<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Perry Projects & Bethlehem Steel Hi Ruth, Do you know how far the Perry Projects extend. I'm curious whether the houses that were used by my relatives are part of that or if the houses are still standing. Here are some of the homes on my list: 268 Fulton, 521 Elk, 357 Elk, 77 Manitoba, and 544 Perry I think the descendants have all moved away from the area since then. I always remember how the relatives use to talk about one another's financial position when the Buffalo relatives came to Hamilton. Those from Buffalo referred to the Hamilton relatives as rich. Those from Hamilton thought the Buffalo relatives were rich because they could travel. The reality was that most of them on both sides of the border were just surviving. My grandmother and her children would pool their money when the relatives were coming and a wonderful feast would be enjoyed by all. The Buffalo families would in turn pool their money to pay their travel expenses. Your right about this being an interesting topic. I may have instigated it but I think lots of us found out more about the history of Buffalo than we knew before and I dare say there are a few others out there that had people treated at this hospital. It certainly sounds like it was a very busy place in those days. Who was the doctor that signed the Record of Death. Mind was signed by Charles E. Long. I don't know if he worked at both hospitals but it is another clue to look into. Good Luck. Wish I was close enough to come to the Museum. Val On 2 May 2008 at 11:53, Ruth Madar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built > for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a > year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really > bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were > renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. > Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna > area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce > where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, > then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the > police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if > he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to > reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. > That's how bad it is. > > Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in > 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. > As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't > say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel > Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death > notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is > there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living > in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built > as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so > many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were > mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for > steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to > check it out. I found this subject very interesting. > > At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana > >St. Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Val, Agree, No descendants live there now. It's really bad. Several years ago, I drove past and I almost got sick. People were living in windowless apartments. The area for the window had plywood over it and every front door was open. There wasn't one window with glass in it. We moved out when I was six months old. We visited often because we had close friends that lived there for years. They moved out perhaps the 70's or 80's and it was already getting bad. I'm not sure what's left now. I recently was volunteering at South Buffalo Community Center on Leddy (or Ledy) St. and that's as close as I want to get to the area. Rest assure - no descendents are there now. Ruth

This has been very interesting to me. My family comes from near the railroad track in Buffalo. They are the Texters, Knorr, Reumanns, Rich is still in the eyes of the beholder isn't it. Jann Whalen Parks Looking for Reumann, Reuman,Texter, Loersch,Knorr and Byers Numbers 6:24-26 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <[email protected]> To: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Perry Projects & Bethlehem Steel > Hi Ruth, > > Do you know how far the Perry Projects extend. I'm curious whether > the houses that were used by my relatives are part of that or if the > houses are still standing. > > Here are some of the homes on my list: > 268 Fulton, 521 Elk, 357 Elk, 77 Manitoba, and 544 Perry > > I think the descendants have all moved away from the area since then. > I always remember how the relatives use to talk about one another's > financial position when the Buffalo relatives came to Hamilton. > > Those from Buffalo referred to the Hamilton relatives as rich. Those > from Hamilton thought the Buffalo relatives were rich because they > could travel. The reality was that most of them on both sides of the > border were just surviving. My grandmother and her children would > pool their money when the relatives were coming and a wonderful feast > would be enjoyed by all. The Buffalo families would in turn pool > their money to pay their travel expenses. > > Your right about this being an interesting topic. I may have > instigated it but I think lots of us found out more about the history > of Buffalo than we knew before and I dare say there are a few others > out there that had people treated at this hospital. It certainly > sounds like it was a very busy place in those days. > > Who was the doctor that signed the Record of Death. Mind was signed > by Charles E. Long. I don't know if he worked at both hospitals but > it is another clue to look into. Good Luck. Wish I was close enough > to come to the Museum. > > Val > > > On 2 May 2008 at 11:53, Ruth Madar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built >> for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a >> year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really >> bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were >> renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. >> Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna >> area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce >> where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, >> then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the >> police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if >> he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to >> reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. >> That's how bad it is. >> >> Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in >> 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. >> As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't >> say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel >> Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death >> notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is >> there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living >> in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built >> as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so >> many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were >> mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for >> steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to >> check it out. I found this subject very interesting. >> >> At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: >> >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana >> >St. Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever. >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Charles E. Long was a doctor in Buffalo. He was married to my grandparents' niece who was a dentist. I'm struggling to find some papers that contain his obituary. I believe that he was either the Medical Examiner or Medical Director for Erie County. Mary   -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Val Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:31 PM To: Ruth Madar; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Perry Projects & Bethlehem Steel Hi Ruth, Do you know how far the Perry Projects extend. I'm curious whether the houses that were used by my relatives are part of that or if the houses are still standing. Here are some of the homes on my list: 268 Fulton, 521 Elk, 357 Elk, 77 Manitoba, and 544 Perry I think the descendants have all moved away from the area since then. I always remember how the relatives use to talk about one another's financial position when the Buffalo relatives came to Hamilton. Those from Buffalo referred to the Hamilton relatives as rich. Those from Hamilton thought the Buffalo relatives were rich because they could travel. The reality was that most of them on both sides of the border were just surviving. My grandmother and her children would pool their money when the relatives were coming and a wonderful feast would be enjoyed by all. The Buffalo families would in turn pool their money to pay their travel expenses. Your right about this being an interesting topic. I may have instigated it but I think lots of us found out more about the history of Buffalo than we knew before and I dare say there are a few others out there that had people treated at this hospital. It certainly sounds like it was a very busy place in those days. Who was the doctor that signed the Record of Death. Mind was signed by Charles E. Long. I don't know if he worked at both hospitals but it is another clue to look into. Good Luck. Wish I was close enough to come to the Museum. Val On 2 May 2008 at 11:53, Ruth Madar <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built > for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a > year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really > bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were > renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. > Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna > area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce > where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, > then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the > police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if > he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to > reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. > That's how bad it is. > > Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in > 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. > As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't > say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel > Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death > notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is > there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living > in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built > as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so > many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were > mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for > steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to > check it out. I found this subject very interesting. > > At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana > >St. Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message