A $50 membership at the New York State Library gets you full access to their databases & other perks: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/friends/app.htm Here are those databases: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/gate/remotedb.htm --- Bill Wiler <[email protected]> wrote: > I actually tried to become a member of the Buffalo Library and > was told > that because I live out of state, have no business there and I > am not a NY > resident, I can not join. So I have no access to any NY > Library unless I > use a researcher. > Bill Wiler > > > > Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> > Sent by: [email protected] > 03/11/2008 07:44 AM > Please respond to > [email protected] > > > To > [email protected] > cc > > Subject > Re: [NYERIE] Update to NYS Vital Records Indexes - Free Look > Ups! > > > > > > > Thanks, Dick, but I don't need convincing. I am not keeping > anyone from these records, New York State is. I was just > reporting a regulation as it was communicated to BECPL and > thinking out loud about what the rationale might be. > > If the Onondaga Public Library is in fact disregarding Health > Department regulations, you may soon have less access to the > index, not more. > > Everyone who agrees with Dick should communicate their > sentiments to the NY State Health Department and their state > legislators. > > --- Dick Hillenbrand <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I heard Sharon Sergeant CG, and Pat Richley (Dear Myrtle,) > > both professional > > genealogists, discussing just this on a podcast last week. > > Sharon made the > > case for totally open records, stating that they have been > > making studies > > and there are not many cases of identity fraud from vital > > records, and that > > almost all of the cases are caused by people that you know, > > family members, > > former friends, business acquaintances, and so on. > > > > These cases almost always are because someone ripped off > your > > credit card, > > or you left your social security number laying around with > > your bank > > statement and such. > > > > Sharon is the professional genealogist that with others > broke > > the recent > > Holocaust fraud story of the lady that claimed she was > raised > > by wolves. It > > was all over the news the last couple of weeks. > > > > I am not a fan of bureaucrats being paid to protect me! > I've > > seen too much > > in my long life. > > > > I hear you anyway, and I accept your points. Well said, as > > always. > > > > Dick > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Cynthia Van Ness > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Dick Hillenbrand <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Myself, I think any kind of restriction on these > indexes, > > in > > > > any manner > > > > whatsoever, by the state is just plain silly! The time > > limit > > > > restrictions > > > > being met, who cares? Most all of these people are dead > > and > > > > gone, or at least over the hilll. \gin/ > > > > > > You may well be right, but we pay our public servants to > > protect > > > us. If someone figured out a way to exploit the indexes > for > > > large scale identity theft, we'd be screaming bloody > murder > > > because the regulations were too lax. I don't know if > > identity > > > theft is a credible threat (maybe it is not) but I do know > > that > > > the Health Department would be irresponsible to ignore the > > > possibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > > > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > > > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > > > > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants > city > > living. City > > > living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of > > other people. It is > > > dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a > hundred > > compromises > > > daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy > > that a city > > > generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city > living. City > living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other > people. It > is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a > hundred > compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective > energy that > a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender > immediately and destroy all copies of the original message. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)
Do you know how far back the records in the database go? Quite some time ago I wrote to Albany and was told I had to check with the town/village and also that the records I was looking for (early 1800s) weren't required at that time. I would consider the $50 membership if my ancestors are there. I know there are some since that time as well. Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Van Ness" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Update to NYS Vital Records Indexes - Free Look Ups! >A $50 membership at the New York State Library gets you full > access to their databases & other perks: > > http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/friends/app.htm > > Here are those databases: > > http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/gate/remotedb.htm > > --- Bill Wiler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I actually tried to become a member of the Buffalo Library and >> was told >> that because I live out of state, have no business there and I >> am not a NY >> resident, I can not join. So I have no access to any NY >> Library unless I >> use a researcher. >> Bill Wiler >> >> >> >> Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> >> Sent by: [email protected] >> 03/11/2008 07:44 AM >> Please respond to >> [email protected] >> >> >> To >> [email protected] >> cc >> >> Subject >> Re: [NYERIE] Update to NYS Vital Records Indexes - Free Look >> Ups! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, Dick, but I don't need convincing. I am not keeping >> anyone from these records, New York State is. I was just >> reporting a regulation as it was communicated to BECPL and >> thinking out loud about what the rationale might be. >> >> If the Onondaga Public Library is in fact disregarding Health >> Department regulations, you may soon have less access to the >> index, not more. >> >> Everyone who agrees with Dick should communicate their >> sentiments to the NY State Health Department and their state >> legislators. >> >> --- Dick Hillenbrand <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I heard Sharon Sergeant CG, and Pat Richley (Dear Myrtle,) >> > both professional >> > genealogists, discussing just this on a podcast last week. >> > Sharon made the >> > case for totally open records, stating that they have been >> > making studies >> > and there are not many cases of identity fraud from vital >> > records, and that >> > almost all of the cases are caused by people that you know, >> > family members, >> > former friends, business acquaintances, and so on. >> > >> > These cases almost always are because someone ripped off >> your >> > credit card, >> > or you left your social security number laying around with >> > your bank >> > statement and such. >> > >> > Sharon is the professional genealogist that with others >> broke >> > the recent >> > Holocaust fraud story of the lady that claimed she was >> raised >> > by wolves. It >> > was all over the news the last couple of weeks. >> > >> > I am not a fan of bureaucrats being paid to protect me! >> I've >> > seen too much >> > in my long life. >> > >> > I hear you anyway, and I accept your points. Well said, as >> > always. >> > >> > Dick >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Cynthia Van Ness >> > <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > --- Dick Hillenbrand <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Myself, I think any kind of restriction on these >> indexes, >> > in >> > > > any manner >> > > > whatsoever, by the state is just plain silly! The time >> > limit >> > > > restrictions >> > > > being met, who cares? Most all of these people are dead >> > and >> > > > gone, or at least over the hilll. \gin/ >> > > >> > > You may well be right, but we pay our public servants to >> > protect >> > > us. If someone figured out a way to exploit the indexes >> for >> > > large scale identity theft, we'd be screaming bloody >> murder >> > > because the regulations were too lax. I don't know if >> > identity >> > > theft is a credible threat (maybe it is not) but I do know >> > that >> > > the Health Department would be irresponsible to ignore the >> > > possibility. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* >> > > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com >> > > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com >> > > >> > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants >> city >> > living. City >> > > living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of >> > other people. It is >> > > dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a >> hundred >> > compromises >> > > daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy >> > that a city >> > > generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes >> > > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > >> >> >> > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* >> Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com >> http://www.BuffaloResearch.com >> >> "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city >> living. City >> living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other >> people. It >> is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a >> hundred >> compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective >> energy that >> a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is >> for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain >> confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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