Hello Fred , Thank you for email . His name was Ludwig .The places of employment listed on the documents for Ludwig Hilburger was Bell Aircraft Corp in 1946 and his wife Elizabeth worked at The Rudolph Wurlitzer Co. and the address that was given was given Catherine St . in Williamsville NY .His Father indicated he was retired from Siemens Schuckerts Works , but that was in Nurenburg Germany . I do know according to records that Ludwig JR and Elizabeth didn't have any children, so Elmer must be the other family that i haven not made a connection. .. Paul In a message dated 9/14/2009 9:41:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fwood@buffalo.edu writes: Paul, By chance would your great uncle who was living in Williamsville have been Elmer Hilburger? I lived in Williamsville at that time and worked with a man by that name at Cornell Aeronautical Lab. Fred Wood fwood@buffalo.edu -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of George Thomas Apfel Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:26 AM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Great Site . Ordering Passport and CitizenshipInformation - My Results Here's a TinyURL link to the site: http://tinyurl.com/6jt9w8 -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of HilburgerBentley@aol.com Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:04 AM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] Great Site . Ordering Passport and Citizenship Information - My Results Hallo Everyone ! _Click here: USCIS - Make a Genealogy Request_ (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543 f6d1a/?vgnextoid=e1fdae70ee0 9c110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d21f3711ca5ca110VgnVCM1000004718 190aRCRD) Here is the very good link for ordering information . Awhile back i had posted a message about Europeans coming to America as a result of WW2 . After months of waiting and getting caught up in procedure changes . I finally got the results of my search . My great Uncles son who was living in Williamsville sent for his folks in 1947 to come stay with him . The thing i got back were great with lots of information I received . 2 colored passport pictures for Ludwig Hilburger and 2 for his wife . One photo each was from their younger days and one was current when they were in their 60's I got a Birth record from Germany each with all the parents names & Street address I got a marriage record from Germany I got a Police Document indicated they were not involved with the Nazi party and were not arrested or wanted for anything . Copy of the application giving detailed information about themselves , it almost like a mortgage application . Also in the package i received letters from his Ludwig Jr, his son asking for permission to get his brother and wife to come over also . Along with letters from his employer saying what a great employee and American citizen he was . They also told me that they had other documents that they could not give to me such as Bank Statements and Stock information showing proof they he could afford to support them .. Then after all the work Ludwig Jr went thru to get his folks over to the states Ludwig Sr applies to go back to Germany to retire and stay for good two years later ,They even had a copy of his passenger ticket receipt for the ship to go back . so that's pretty much everything . After a long wait and 100.00 in fees for two people , it was worth it since i got so much information and names and villages and dates Paul Hilburger in Sunny Humid Atlanta .. I am ready for Fall and winter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message