The following site is useful for locating street name changes in Buffalo. It shows German St. changed to Sherman; German Alley to Eurika, later to Trinity. http://wnyroots.tripod.com/index-street-changes.html

Val, Thanks for that. I've been exploring the various directories and such from the link you gave. It's a great link. It appears German Street was changed to Delaware Place about 1853 or 1854. HOWEVER, German Street is listed as running between Delaware and Virginia - and appears to be about where Trinity Place is now. But, that is no where near Jefferson. There is a German Alley, but that never intersects Jefferson either. Here is the property description from the deed I have: the certain piece or parcel of land situate lying and being in the town of Black Rock County of Erie and State of New York being a part of Outer Lot 22 and according to a map of subdivisions of part of said lot 22 made for said (Wm. W. Smith) it is distinguished as Lot 40 and bounded as follows: beginning 255 feet easterly from the east line of Jefferson Street, in the Southerly line of German Street, thence southerly at right angle with German Street 150 feet, thence easterly parallel with German Street 50 feet, thence northerly at right angle with said German Street to said southerly line of German Street, then on said line westerly 50 feet to the place of beginning. I've gone back and forth between various directories and online maps, but not getting much of anywhere. Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks, Jennifer In a message dated 6/24/2009 1:12:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, vcon@ebtech.net writes: Hi Jennifer, I put the following in Google Search: History "Black Rock". NY 1850 Jefferson German St Many links came up but I found this one the most interesting: Buffalo History Index http://www.buffaloah.com/h/histindex.html If you go down to Black Rock there are several links. In 1853 there was a link to an Expansion Map which showed Jefferson. Many links but I didn't go through very many. Maybe you will find a clue there. Happy Hunting! Val On 24 Jun 2009 at 13:09, CLARK1528@aol.com <nyerie@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello to all, > > I'm hoping someone may be able to identify where German Street was in > Buffalo. I'm not having any luck with any of the online maps. > > I have a copy of a deed dated 1847 which identifies a property at > Jefferson > Avenue and German Street in the town of Black Rock. Since this is > before > the Black Rock was absorbed by the city of Buffalo, I'm gathering this > refers to the original town (township) of Black Rock. > > Does anyone have any ideas where this property might be located? > > Thank you for your help. > Jennifer > **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for > the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) > **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)

Russ, This may be it. The 1894 map shows Handel St. and Berlin in that area. Berlin must have become German which became Pershing. The 1866 map shows Handel and Berlin also. the deed references Outer Lot 22 which has been subdivided by one William W. Smith apparently and the referenced property is identified as lot 40 within that. Perhaps the street was initially named German before 1844 when my ancestor bought the property, then when Black Rock joined Buffalo the name could have been changed because there was already a German St. in Buffalo. Seems like a lot of changes for one poor little street. Thanks for the input, Jennifer In a message dated 6/24/2009 3:43:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, russlipp@frontiernet.net writes: My family lived on German Street, but during WWI, the name was changed to Pershing for obvious reasons. Pershing runs between Northampton and High Street, near the Kensington Expressway. Russ Lipp On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:09 PM, CLARK1528@aol.com wrote: > Hello to all, > > I'm hoping someone may be able to identify where German Street was in > Buffalo. I'm not having any luck with any of the online maps. > > I have a copy of a deed dated 1847 which identifies a property at > Jefferson > Avenue and German Street in the town of Black Rock. Since this is > before > the Black Rock was absorbed by the city of Buffalo, I'm gathering this > refers to the original town (township) of Black Rock. > > Does anyone have any ideas where this property might be located? > > Thank you for your help. > Jennifer > **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for > the > grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)

My family lived on German Street, but during WWI, the name was changed to Pershing for obvious reasons. Pershing runs between Northampton and High Street, near the Kensington Expressway. Russ Lipp On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:09 PM, CLARK1528@aol.com wrote: > Hello to all, > > I'm hoping someone may be able to identify where German Street was in > Buffalo. I'm not having any luck with any of the online maps. > > I have a copy of a deed dated 1847 which identifies a property at > Jefferson > Avenue and German Street in the town of Black Rock. Since this is > before > the Black Rock was absorbed by the city of Buffalo, I'm gathering this > refers to the original town (township) of Black Rock. > > Does anyone have any ideas where this property might be located? > > Thank you for your help. > Jennifer > **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for > the > grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Val, Thanks for that. I've been exploring the various directories and such from the link you gave. It's a great link. It appears German Street was changed to Delaware Place about 1853 or 1854. HOWEVER, German Street is listed as running between Delaware and Virginia - and appears to be about where Trinity Place is now. But, that is no where near Jefferson. There is a German Alley, but that never intersects Jefferson either. Here is the property description from the deed I have: the certain piece or parcel of land situate lying and being in the town of Black Rock County of Erie and State of New York being a part of Outer Lot 22 and according to a map of subdivisions of part of said lot 22 made for said (Wm. W. Smith) it is distinguished as Lot 40 and bounded as follows: beginning 255 feet easterly from the east line of Jefferson Street, in the Southerly line of German Street, thence southerly at right angle with German Street 150 feet, thence easterly parallel with German Street 50 feet, thence northerly at right angle with said German Street to said southerly line of German Street, then on said line westerly 50 feet to the place of beginning. I've gone back and forth between various directories and online maps, but not getting much of anywhere. Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks, Jennifer In a message dated 6/24/2009 1:12:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, vcon@ebtech.net writes: Hi Jennifer, I put the following in Google Search: History "Black Rock". NY 1850 Jefferson German St Many links came up but I found this one the most interesting: Buffalo History Index http://www.buffaloah.com/h/histindex.html If you go down to Black Rock there are several links. In 1853 there was a link to an Expansion Map which showed Jefferson. Many links but I didn't go through very many. Maybe you will find a clue there. Happy Hunting! Val On 24 Jun 2009 at 13:09, CLARK1528@aol.com <nyerie@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello to all, > > I'm hoping someone may be able to identify where German Street was in > Buffalo. I'm not having any luck with any of the online maps. > > I have a copy of a deed dated 1847 which identifies a property at > Jefferson > Avenue and German Street in the town of Black Rock. Since this is > before > the Black Rock was absorbed by the city of Buffalo, I'm gathering this > refers to the original town (township) of Black Rock. > > Does anyone have any ideas where this property might be located? > > Thank you for your help. > Jennifer > **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for > the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)

Hi Jennifer, I put the following in Google Search: History "Black Rock". NY 1850 Jefferson German St Many links came up but I found this one the most interesting: Buffalo History Index http://www.buffaloah.com/h/histindex.html If you go down to Black Rock there are several links. In 1853 there was a link to an Expansion Map which showed Jefferson. Many links but I didn't go through very many. Maybe you will find a clue there. Happy Hunting! Val On 24 Jun 2009 at 13:09, CLARK1528@aol.com <nyerie@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello to all, > > I'm hoping someone may be able to identify where German Street was in > Buffalo. I'm not having any luck with any of the online maps. > > I have a copy of a deed dated 1847 which identifies a property at > Jefferson > Avenue and German Street in the town of Black Rock. Since this is > before > the Black Rock was absorbed by the city of Buffalo, I'm gathering this > refers to the original town (township) of Black Rock. > > Does anyone have any ideas where this property might be located? > > Thank you for your help. > Jennifer > **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for > the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello to all, I'm hoping someone may be able to identify where German Street was in Buffalo. I'm not having any luck with any of the online maps. I have a copy of a deed dated 1847 which identifies a property at Jefferson Avenue and German Street in the town of Black Rock. Since this is before the Black Rock was absorbed by the city of Buffalo, I'm gathering this refers to the original town (township) of Black Rock. Does anyone have any ideas where this property might be located? Thank you for your help. Jennifer **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)

hi a while ago, I'd corresponded with someone on this list about our family - I have changed computers and unfortunately lost a lot of my files, etc. If you are still on the list, I'd like to hear from you - I came upon some new info on George Duewiger. thanks ~ Linda

Looking for a newspaper look up concerning a robbery in Buffalo, NY at possibly Sattler's store about 1952-1953.  Photograph of apprehended suspect by unarmed citizen won prize and was published again about one year later.  Suspect was rumored to be hospitalized afterwards...photo includes policeman, robber being held by the throat, robber's gun, and unidentified ... persons.  Would like to identify everyone in photo and have a copy of the newspaper article (transcription) if this is available from microfilm at the library.

I live in England but I need a quick lookup of Buffalo directories for 1919-1921 in the library. Can anyone please help?

Hello and thank you, I could find nothing helpful on that site though, I'll keep looking! Best wishes > Perhaps you can find something through a search of the World Cat. > You do not need to have a user name or password to do a search. I put > 'american radiator company' in the box and clicked on search > everything. There were 178 items found. Good luck. > > www.worldcat.org > > > Barbara wrote, On 6/6/2009 3:26 PM: >> Hello. I have my great uncle's death certificate, it says he worked for >> the American Radiator Co for over 30 years. He last worked in 1928. he >> was a plumber. I know the Company is part of the Standard Sanitary Co. >> now >> I managed to find a customer service number in case they have any records >> but with no answer >> He was Thomas Sheerin, born 1865 in Ireland, came to America in 1886 and >> settled in Erie, Buffalo. He died in 1932 >> Does anyone have any idea how I may find any work record for him? >> Thank you, Barbara in England >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon I forgot to bring it to work I will scan it either tonight or early tomorrow and email it to you it has a picture of the school on it Cheryl In a message dated 6/8/2009 6:46:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kcshar2@verizon.net writes: I believe the Arthur Roos aka Arthur Loos is my uncle. I would like an image. Thank you sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: Radical351@aol.com To: nyerie-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: [NYERIE] 1906 eighth grad class graduation school 53 list I hope this can help someone if you need more information please email me _radical351@aol.com_ (mailto:radical351@aol.com) here is the list Emma D Babinger Arthur S Barnum Clement C E Beuchat Herold J Boneberg Allie Campbell Eda M Cavagnaro Luther H Chapman Gwenldolyn E Cowper Lillie L Cox Grace E Curtis William H Dehn Florence P Dingnan Edward J Dobe Marie J Ekdahl Cora Ernst Midred E Farrand Viola Hamill Edna J Hamelman (Graduated in German) George J Haug John A Hauser Ethel M Hohn Harold S Horton Helen MHufnagel Ethel Hughes Mary F Joyce Jacob A Klug Viola D Koehler Harold J Lachy William Maerer Leona M Miney Mary B Mock Bertha S Nagel William Neil Sadie R Oster Charlotte Philip Nettie E Rauerr Allan F Reif Charles A Reif Felix F Ritter Arthur W Roos Clara Ruhl Susie Runkel Harriet Salzman Elmer Schneider Edna M Schoedel Florence M Schreiber Estella Schultz Ethel Schumm George A Smith Arthur P Stressinger Arthur G Steinhilber Harry J Syme Mabel A Taylor Maude Torgesen Mabel G Urban Irene Van Derlan Bessie L Weccheideris Ethel V West Henry B Wieber John Wiedl Leroy F Wiediger Arthur G Wiese Oscar P Wister P Oswald Wister This comes from commencment Exercises of the Eighth Graduating class of public school no 53 La Touraine Hall Tuesday Evening June Nineteenth nineteen hundred six anyone needing a scanned image please contact me thank you Cheryl **************We found the real â?~Hotel Californiaâ?T and the â?~Seinfeldâ?T diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youv e-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew00000007) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004)

I believe the Arthur Roos aka Arthur Loos is my uncle. I would like an image. Thank you sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: Radical351@aol.com To: nyerie-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: [NYERIE] 1906 eighth grad class graduation school 53 list I hope this can help someone if you need more information please email me _radical351@aol.com_ (mailto:radical351@aol.com) here is the list Emma D Babinger Arthur S Barnum Clement C E Beuchat Herold J Boneberg Allie Campbell Eda M Cavagnaro Luther H Chapman Gwenldolyn E Cowper Lillie L Cox Grace E Curtis William H Dehn Florence P Dingnan Edward J Dobe Marie J Ekdahl Cora Ernst Midred E Farrand Viola Hamill Edna J Hamelman (Graduated in German) George J Haug John A Hauser Ethel M Hohn Harold S Horton Helen MHufnagel Ethel Hughes Mary F Joyce Jacob A Klug Viola D Koehler Harold J Lachy William Maerer Leona M Miney Mary B Mock Bertha S Nagel William Neil Sadie R Oster Charlotte Philip Nettie E Rauerr Allan F Reif Charles A Reif Felix F Ritter Arthur W Roos Clara Ruhl Susie Runkel Harriet Salzman Elmer Schneider Edna M Schoedel Florence M Schreiber Estella Schultz Ethel Schumm George A Smith Arthur P Stressinger Arthur G Steinhilber Harry J Syme Mabel A Taylor Maude Torgesen Mabel G Urban Irene Van Derlan Bessie L Weccheideris Ethel V West Henry B Wieber John Wiedl Leroy F Wiediger Arthur G Wiese Oscar P Wister P Oswald Wister This comes from commencment Exercises of the Eighth Graduating class of public school no 53 La Touraine Hall Tuesday Evening June Nineteenth nineteen hundred six anyone needing a scanned image please contact me thank you Cheryl **************We found the real â?~Hotel Californiaâ?T and the â?~Seinfeldâ?T diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew00000007) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hope this can help someone if you need more information please email me _radical351@aol.com_ (mailto:radical351@aol.com) here is the list Emma D Babinger Arthur S Barnum Clement C E Beuchat Herold J Boneberg Allie Campbell Eda M Cavagnaro Luther H Chapman Gwenldolyn E Cowper Lillie L Cox Grace E Curtis William H Dehn Florence P Dingnan Edward J Dobe Marie J Ekdahl Cora Ernst Midred E Farrand Viola Hamill Edna J Hamelman (Graduated in German) George J Haug John A Hauser Ethel M Hohn Harold S Horton Helen MHufnagel Ethel Hughes Mary F Joyce Jacob A Klug Viola D Koehler Harold J Lachy William Maerer Leona M Miney Mary B Mock Bertha S Nagel William Neil Sadie R Oster Charlotte Philip Nettie E Rauerr Allan F Reif Charles A Reif Felix F Ritter Arthur W Roos Clara Ruhl Susie Runkel Harriet Salzman Elmer Schneider Edna M Schoedel Florence M Schreiber Estella Schultz Ethel Schumm George A Smith Arthur P Stressinger Arthur G Steinhilber Harry J Syme Mabel A Taylor Maude Torgesen Mabel G Urban Irene Van Derlan Bessie L Weccheideris Ethel V West Henry B Wieber John Wiedl Leroy F Wiediger Arthur G Wiese Oscar P Wister P Oswald Wister This comes from commencment Exercises of the Eighth Graduating class of public school no 53 La Touraine Hall Tuesday Evening June Nineteenth nineteen hundred six anyone needing a scanned image please contact me thank you Cheryl **************We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew00000007)

Is there a digest form I can get this in? I don't want to loose what I have but would like it in digest form if possible. Jann Whalen Parks If you can't be grateful for what you have received, then be grateful for what you have been spared. (A code of Jewish Ethics) ----- Original Message ----- From: "'pic'" <pic73@worldnet.att.net> To: <NYERIE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:35 AM Subject: [NYERIE] Forks Hotel > Is there a place where one could check to see if my grandfather would be > listed. > > My grandfather was a magician and used to saw my grandmother in half as > well > as card and coin tricks. > > His name was "The Great Mysto" or similar. My Grandparents were Edward A > Corney and Elsie Berry Corney. They also used to go to Canada, Around St. > Catharines, Ont. > > I know they spent time in the summer around Lake George also. > > Many thanks > > Pat Corney > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Perhaps you can find something through a search of the World Cat. You do not need to have a user name or password to do a search. I put 'american radiator company' in the box and clicked on search everything. There were 178 items found. Good luck. www.worldcat.org Barbara wrote, On 6/6/2009 3:26 PM: > Hello. I have my great uncle's death certificate, it says he worked for the American Radiator Co for over 30 years. He last worked in 1928. he was a plumber. I know the Company is part of the Standard Sanitary Co. now > I managed to find a customer service number in case they have any records but with no answer > He was Thomas Sheerin, born 1865 in Ireland, came to America in 1886 and settled in Erie, Buffalo. He died in 1932 > Does anyone have any idea how I may find any work record for him? > Thank you, Barbara in England > > > >

Thank you all so very much for your informative replies and additional websites to visit. No wonder I couldn't find Forks in the places I checked. I realized later it was silly to look for a city council if it was a town, but I guess since Forks was an area, trying to narrow my search with town council would not have worked either. I actually don't know yet if I am related to the family, but knowing what Forks is will help me understand better the records I am finding. Cheektagowa is familiar, as it is showing up on quite a few of the census records I have been studying. Thanks so much again for the explanations and links.

My appoligies to Laurie for not getting her name straight. I was busy and didn't take the time to get it correct. Try www.fultonhistory.com and do a search of over 6 Million newspaper pages from NY State. In July he's adding another million pages; so revisit the site and you might find more info. Kevin ---- LAURIE <laurieg14120@yahoo.com> wrote: > Pat- >   > I copied Kevin's post below.He has a very good memory. My grandparents were Magicians also.(hartman) > I don't know if they performed at Fork's, I have alot of their papers but nothing on Forks.But that is not say he didin't. > I had been to Fork's a few times back in the 1970's and met many magicians that knew my grandfather. > There was also a restaurant tavern named Quinn's on Military Rd on the Buffalo Kenmore border that also had magicians perform in the 1980's.That building is now gone. > There is usually a tavern or restaurant soemwhere here that has magicians performing regularly. Just not sure who they would be now. >   > I can email some Magician websites to you if you like. There is one particular one that wants bio's of the magicians.They are trying to preserve the early history of magicians.It is a very good and reputable site. > I happened to find a empty bio abt my grandfather and contacted them and they were happy to have a short bio submitted. >   > My grandfather invented several tricks as most magicians do. He built and sold one in particular.Siegfried and Roy even adapted it for their act (before the tiger accident). >   > The Magician's groups are called Rings. They are a pretty private bunch. You can contact them and give them as much info as possible, you may not get an answer back, and then again you may.It would  be helpful if you knew the Ring your grandparents belonged to. >   > There is a magic shop on Elmwood Ave in Buffalo that might be able to put you in contact with some local magicians. Most of the guys my Grandfather knew are gone. >   > My grandmother was the only female magician in Buffalo in 1932.I am considering writing a book abt her as she had a very interesting life and was the first woman to accomplish a feat in 1918. >   > I would also post to ancestry.com, there is a specific "Magicians" category there. I had a cousin and a few others contact me thru that connection. >   > I will advise you to compile as much info as possible before contacting Magician sources. > I would also advise that you be careful as to what you do share! There is quite a "circuit" of conferences and shows where info is shared and sold. So you want the word out there, but there are alos people that want specifics to profit from.(and you won't)  >   > Start reading books abt magicians, there is alot to learn and you may find your family members mentioned. I did! >   > I would also advise you to go to www.findagrave.com > and post grave info abt your magician family.If you have no grave photos, you can ask a volunteer to take one. A very nice man recommended that and I ahv ebeen busy posting ever since! >   > The magicians I have been dealing with have been very nice and very helpful. And preserve what papers and tricks you do have, those items from that era can/are be quite valuable!!!!!!! >   > If I can help in anyway, please feel free to email me. Researching my grandparents has been very interesting,educational and rewarding. >   > Laurie >   >   >   >   >   > "Try posting somthing with title like Magician- Erie County. Lori who is on Erie County site has grandparents who where famous Magicians in Buffalo area etc and might be able to help you.  There is a website with bio's of magicians etc and local chapters are called Rings or somthing like that. Lori's grandfather also had a magic store and build stage illusions for other magicians (I'm going from memory and might not have 100% correct.It might be Laura instead of Lori. Her grandparents were Hartman's." > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello. I have my great uncle's death certificate, it says he worked for the American Radiator Co for over 30 years. He last worked in 1928. he was a plumber. I know the Company is part of the Standard Sanitary Co. now I managed to find a customer service number in case they have any records but with no answer He was Thomas Sheerin, born 1865 in Ireland, came to America in 1886 and settled in Erie, Buffalo. He died in 1932 Does anyone have any idea how I may find any work record for him? Thank you, Barbara in England