Oh Paul, what a shock! I have not finished researching those records. What will happen to the secretary? She was so nice, and helpful with my research when I was in Buffalo. Will you be going to Buffalo to be at the last service? Suzy Brummer Researching Peck, Schulz, Schwager and Stoldt -----Original Message----- From: hilburgerbentley@aol.com To: ny-buffalo-eastside@rootsweb.com Cc: nyerie@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 7:03 pm Subject: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY For those who might have some family connection to Trinity UCC on Gold treet also known as Trinity German Evangelical and as Trinity Evangelical & eformed in the past . It has been voted on that we will be closing our hurch and merging with St Stephens-Bethlehem UCC as the first of the year . ur final service on Gold Street will be December 27, 2009 . The property ill be put for sale and we have been told that all church records & istorical information will be transferred to St Stephens-Bethlehem . I just hought would share this information with everyone aul Hilburger ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

For those who might have some family connection to Trinity UCC on Gold Street also known as Trinity German Evangelical and as Trinity Evangelical & Reformed in the past . It has been voted on that we will be closing our church and merging with St Stephens-Bethlehem UCC as the first of the year . Our final service on Gold Street will be December 27, 2009 . The property will be put for sale and we have been told that all church records & historical information will be transferred to St Stephens-Bethlehem . I just thought i would share this information with everyone Paul Hilburger

I have a photo taken in 1890 of John W. HARTWELL, age 21 years old. It was taken at the studio of Charles O. Smith, 446 Main St., Buffalo, NY. Contact me off list if HARTWELL is of interest to you. Kay

Richard, It was Clark section. On the larger cemetery map, Clark was the section and driveway running north from the cemetery office and it was marked as such. As far as I can tell; it's the only section with a name and without a letter designation. I guess a guy named Clark donated that part of the cemetery. Kevin ---- sgtnysp@roadrunner.com wrote: > Richard, > I'll try to get your grave photos done Tue, Dec 1, 2009. > I'll e-mail you off list. > > Kevin > ---- Richard Orr <rorr2005@rogers.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have located the final burial place for Mary Thompson. > > Mary and her husband Henry (Harry) are buried in Woodlawn Cemetery (Orchard Park), Section - Clark, Lot 83, Grave 7. > > > > Looking for SKS who could photograph for me the headstone. > > > > Thanking you in advance. > > > > Regards, > > Richard Orr > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, I'll try to get your grave photos done Tue, Dec 1, 2009. I'll e-mail you off list. Kevin ---- Richard Orr <rorr2005@rogers.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I have located the final burial place for Mary Thompson. > Mary and her husband Henry (Harry) are buried in Woodlawn Cemetery (Orchard Park), Section - Clark, Lot 83, Grave 7. > > Looking for SKS who could photograph for me the headstone. > > Thanking you in advance. > > Regards, > Richard Orr > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have located the final burial place for Mary Thompson. Mary and her husband Henry (Harry) are buried in Woodlawn Cemetery (Orchard Park), Section - Clark, Lot 83, Grave 7. Looking for SKS who could photograph for me the headstone. Thanking you in advance. Regards, Richard Orr

Hi Listers, My Great Aunt Mary Thompson died 7 July 1932 and according to her death certificate was buried in Orchard Park. Which are the largest cemeteries in Orchard Park and do any cater to Methodist? Thanks Richard

Oct 30 was the last message about additions to http://www.newyorkgravestones.org site a great deal of photos had been submitted by many.... and when you want to share, please review the instructions linked at bottom of left column before submissions for successful and quality photos. Albany Broome Cattaraugus Chautauqua Clinton Erie Genesee Herkimer Lewis Livingston Madison Monroe Montgomery Oneida Orange Owego Otsego Saratoga Schoharie Suffolk Warren Washington Have you checked Massachusetts, Utah and Oregon for other folks who came from these as well as ended up in these states? http://www.magravestones.org http://www.utahgravestones.org http://www.oregongravestones.org W. David Samuelsen

This will probably take a bit of work. If you don't have the obits especially for the most recent deaths that is the first place I would look for a list of relatives and where they live. You might find a volunteer who has access to the Buffalo Newspapers or you can try this pay site. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/buffalonews Also check the Phone Directory "Switchboard" There are over 30 Mach hits in the Buffalo Area. Perhaps some will sound familiar or you can send out a mailing asking if they are related. Val On 15 Nov 2009 at 14:42, fredandjp@aol.com <nyerie@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm researching the MACH family. > > Adam MACH, (Dec 1823 - 02 Nov 1902) born in Pozen, Poland, married > Applonia ?. To the best of my knowledge, Applonia never made it to the > US. Adam arrived on 23 Apr 1891. With him were two daughters, > Salomea, Michael and Rosa. > > It is my understanding Adam was buried in the old St. Adolphus cemtery > that was behind Thruway mall and was relocated when they they tore > down the amll and put in the K Mart and other stores. > > Salomea, aka Cecelia, was my great grandmother. She married Wojciech > Luczak first, then Wojciech Luczak. She is buried in St. Stanilaus > Cemetery without a marker. According to a cousin, years ago, a > handmade wooden one was there initially. > > It is also my understanding members of the MACH family are still > living in the Buffalo area. I would like to touch base with them. All > I know about Rosa is she arrived. I have no inforamtion on any of her > descendants, death, etc. > > This is the information I have found so far on Michael: > > 1 Michael Mach b: Aug 1874 in Germany/Poland d: 1939 > > .. +Catherine b: Nov 1877 in Germany/Poland d: 1937 m: > > ..... 2 Stanislaus Mach b: 20 Oct 1896 in New York d: > 1919 ..... 2 Martha Mach b: 03 Jul 1898 in New York > d: Dec 1981 ......... +Stanley Anthony Mrozinski b: 05 > Oct 1895 in Shamokin, Pennsylvania, USA d: m: > > ..... 2 Stephan Mach b: 1901 in New York d: 1924 > ..... 2 Clara Mach b: 1904 in New York d: 1961 ..... > 2 Felix Mach b: 03 Sep 1906 in New York d: 21 Nov 1974 > ......... +Catherine Sztukowski b: 21 Apr 1907 in New York > d: 25 Mar 1989 m: > > ..... 2 Alexander S Mach b: 17 Jul 1908 in New York d: > 18 May 1983 in Richmond, Macomb, Michigan ......... +Dorothy > Tucholski b: d: m: > > ..... 2 Bernard Mach b: 26 Jul 1910 in New York d: 12 > Oct 1990 ......... +Sophie b: d: m: > > ..... 2 Adam Mach b: 23 Nov 1913 in New York d: Mar 1980 > in Buffalo, Erie, New York ......... +Clara b: 08 Jun > 1918 d: 17 Sep 2005 in Buffalo, Erie, New York m: > > ..... 2 Maryanna Mach b: 1919 in New York d: 1924 > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I'm researching the MACH family. Adam MACH, (Dec 1823 - 02 Nov 1902) born in Pozen, Poland, married Applonia ?. To the best of my knowledge, Applonia never made it to the US. Adam arrived on 23 Apr 1891. With him were two daughters, Salomea, Michael and Rosa. It is my understanding Adam was buried in the old St. Adolphus cemtery that was behind Thruway mall and was relocated when they they tore down the amll and put in the K Mart and other stores. Salomea, aka Cecelia, was my great grandmother. She married Wojciech Luczak first, then Wojciech Luczak. She is buried in St. Stanilaus Cemetery without a marker. According to a cousin, years ago, a handmade wooden one was there initially. It is also my understanding members of the MACH family are still living in the Buffalo area. I would like to touch base with them. All I know about Rosa is she arrived. I have no inforamtion on any of her descendants, death, etc. This is the information I have found so far on Michael: 1 Michael Mach b: Aug 1874 in Germany/Poland d: 1939 .. +Catherine b: Nov 1877 in Germany/Poland d: 1937 m: ..... 2 Stanislaus Mach b: 20 Oct 1896 in New York d: 1919 ..... 2 Martha Mach b: 03 Jul 1898 in New York d: Dec 1981 ......... +Stanley Anthony Mrozinski b: 05 Oct 1895 in Shamokin, Pennsylvania, USA d: m: ..... 2 Stephan Mach b: 1901 in New York d: 1924 ..... 2 Clara Mach b: 1904 in New York d: 1961 ..... 2 Felix Mach b: 03 Sep 1906 in New York d: 21 Nov 1974 ......... +Catherine Sztukowski b: 21 Apr 1907 in New York d: 25 Mar 1989 m: ..... 2 Alexander S Mach b: 17 Jul 1908 in New York d: 18 May 1983 in Richmond, Macomb, Michigan ......... +Dorothy Tucholski b: d: m: ..... 2 Bernard Mach b: 26 Jul 1910 in New York d: 12 Oct 1990 ......... +Sophie b: d: m: ..... 2 Adam Mach b: 23 Nov 1913 in New York d: Mar 1980 in Buffalo, Erie, New York ......... +Clara b: 08 Jun 1918 d: 17 Sep 2005 in Buffalo, Erie, New York m: ..... 2 Maryanna Mach b: 1919 in New York d: 1924 Any help would be appreciated.

WNYGS November Meeting *21 November 2009 - Saturday - Hamburg Senior High School* 10:30 A.M. Brief Business Meeting 11:00 A.M. *Computer School*, presented by Tom Lippert. Have you always wanted to organize your genealogy information on the computer and wondered how you could do it without having to buy software? Come to this informative session on how to make files, sub-files, organization of files, scanning, etc. 12:00 Noon. Break for lunch. A bag lunch is an excellent idea as attendees then have more opportunity to talk genealogy with others. 12:30 P.M. *Computer School.* This is a continuation of the morning session. All are welcome !

I am researching the Kmiec line of my maternal g. grandparents, Fabianus Kmiec and Honorata Janczak who lived in the Laskowo, and Lopienno, Poznan, area of Prussia. After Fabianus and Honorata died three of their sons came to the U.S. They lived in Buffalo, Erie County, NY from about 1880 to 1886. They then moved here to Texas, settling in the town of Chappell Hill in Washington, County. There was a Martin Janczak who must have been a cousin from their mother’s side who came to Buffalo about the same time. He then moved to Washington County, Texas, also. He was married to .Agnes Natkowiak in the R C Parish of Debnica, Poland. He was the son of Urbanus Janczak and Antonia Kmiec. The children of Fabianus and Honorata were: Piotr b.25 Jun 1855 Symon b.20 Oct 1857 Franciscus b.10 20 Dec 1861 Victoria b.20 Dec 1861 Josef b. Aug 1865. Would appreciate any info anyone has on these surnames. Joseph Mercedes, Texas

According to a Declaration of Intention Martin Janczak arrived in New York from Poland on April 18,1880, at the age of 30 and settled in Buffalo, Erie County, NY. His wife was.Agnes Natkowiak who he married in 1871 in the R C Parish in Debnica, Poland. He moved here to Texas around 1885 or 1886. He was the son of Urbanus Janczak and Antonia Kmiec. I believe he was kin to my g. grandmother Honarata Janczak who married Fabian Kmiec. It appears that some other Janczak family members were there in Buffalo also. They stayed in Buffalo when Martin moved here to Texas. I am trying to find out if any of them were kin to Martin's parents Urbanus Janczak and Antonia Kmiec. I would appreciate hearing from anyone that has information of the Janczak family in Buffalo. Joseph Mercedes, Texas

Jan, We have not heard from Wayne lately so we have no update on any meeting that may have been held last month. In the past he had encouraged folks who were able to join the ongoing Saturday upkeep project at the cemetery. I thought they were attempting to get grants to help with financial issues related to the upkeep. Some community groups had helped on the Saturday details as well. You might check the Buffalo News Archives for past articles related to Concordia. Perhaps Wayne has run out of steam and/or funds or help and has cut back on his involvement. Let's hope we can hear from him soon as to what is really going on... Sara Burkholder > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:18:26 -0500 > From: townefabric@ispmgt.com > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery > > What did Wayne say about the cemetery? > Jann Whalen Parks > > On 11/5/09, B P POWELL <betts34@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Sara > > Thanks so much for your reply. I sure hope they do not let it just go. There > > is so much history there. I too will do what I can from a distance.I did > > hear from Wayne, but no answer as to what will happen. > > Betty Pesch Powell > > Alabama > > > > --- On Wed, 11/4/09, Sara Burkholder <sa73bu@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Sara Burkholder <sa73bu@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery > > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > > Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 11:36 AM > > > > > > > > Betty, It seems to me a fella by the name of Wayne Rettke had much to do > > with Concordia. But he has been rather quiet on this forum lately. Maybe > > he got burned out. I too would like to know the status of the organization > > before I send my pittance. I have offered to help by perhaps billing folks > > for their spot at Concordia as I felt it was something I could do from afar > > but I am not sure the powers that be wanted to go in that direction. Since > > I have a rather large group in this resting place I am interested in its > > survival. Let's hope we hear soon... Sara Burkholder > > > >> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:24:54 -0800 > >> From: betts34@bellsouth.net > >> To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery > >> > >> Would some one be kind enough to tell me what the Lot Owners decided to do > >> with the cemetery at their annual meeting held on October 17. I tried > >> calling the number listed in the letter asking for payment of lot fees but > >> no answer. I do not want to pay a fee if the cemetery is going to be > >> abandoned ,This is the second time I requested this information. > >> Thanks > >> Betty Pesch Powell > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. > > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1

What did Wayne say about the cemetery? Jann Whalen Parks On 11/5/09, B P POWELL <betts34@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Sara > Thanks so much for your reply. I sure hope they do not let it just go. There > is so much history there. I too will do what I can from a distance.I did > hear from Wayne, but no answer as to what will happen. > Betty Pesch Powell > Alabama > > --- On Wed, 11/4/09, Sara Burkholder <sa73bu@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Sara Burkholder <sa73bu@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 11:36 AM > > > > Betty,  It seems to me a fella by the name of Wayne Rettke had much to do > with Concordia.  But he has been rather quiet on this forum lately.  Maybe > he got burned out.  I too would like to know the status of the organization > before I send my pittance.  I have offered to help by perhaps billing folks > for their spot at Concordia as I felt it was something I could do from afar > but I am not sure the powers that be wanted to go in that direction.  Since > I have a rather large group in this resting place I am interested in its > survival.  Let's hope we hear soon... Sara Burkholder > >> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:24:54 -0800 >> From: betts34@bellsouth.net >> To: nyerie@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery >> >> Would some one be kind enough to tell me what the Lot Owners decided to do >> with the cemetery at their annual meeting held on October 17. I tried >> calling the number listed in the letter asking for payment of lot fees but >> no answer. I do not want to pay a fee if the cemetery is going to be >> abandoned ,This is the second time I requested this information. >> Thanks >> Betty Pesch Powell >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

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Sara Thanks so much for your reply. I sure hope they do not let it just go. There is so much history there. I too will do what I can from a distance.I did hear from Wayne, but no answer as to what will happen. Betty Pesch Powell Alabama --- On Wed, 11/4/09, Sara Burkholder <sa73bu@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Sara Burkholder <sa73bu@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 11:36 AM Betty,  It seems to me a fella by the name of Wayne Rettke had much to do with Concordia.  But he has been rather quiet on this forum lately.  Maybe he got burned out.  I too would like to know the status of the organization before I send my pittance.  I have offered to help by perhaps billing folks for their spot at Concordia as I felt it was something I could do from afar but I am not sure the powers that be wanted to go in that direction.  Since I have a rather large group in this resting place I am interested in its survival.  Let's hope we hear soon... Sara Burkholder > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:24:54 -0800 > From: betts34@bellsouth.net > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery > > Would some one be kind enough to tell me what the Lot Owners decided to do with the cemetery at their annual meeting held on October 17. I tried calling the number listed in the letter asking for payment of lot fees but no answer. I do not want to pay a fee if the cemetery is going to be abandoned ,This is the second time I requested this information. > Thanks > Betty Pesch Powell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                           _________________________________________________________________ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would some one be kind enough to tell me what the Lot Owners decided to do with the cemetery at their annual meeting held on October 17. I tried calling the number listed in the letter asking for payment of lot fees but no answer. I do not want to pay a fee if the cemetery is going to be abandoned ,This is the second time I requested this information. Thanks Betty Pesch Powell

Betty, It seems to me a fella by the name of Wayne Rettke had much to do with Concordia. But he has been rather quiet on this forum lately. Maybe he got burned out. I too would like to know the status of the organization before I send my pittance. I have offered to help by perhaps billing folks for their spot at Concordia as I felt it was something I could do from afar but I am not sure the powers that be wanted to go in that direction. Since I have a rather large group in this resting place I am interested in its survival. Let's hope we hear soon... Sara Burkholder > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:24:54 -0800 > From: betts34@bellsouth.net > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery > > Would some one be kind enough to tell me what the Lot Owners decided to do with the cemetery at their annual meeting held on October 17. I tried calling the number listed in the letter asking for payment of lot fees but no answer. I do not want to pay a fee if the cemetery is going to be abandoned ,This is the second time I requested this information. > Thanks > Betty Pesch Powell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009

Here's an article on the Protectory ST. JOHN'S PROTECTORY Bishop Timon felt the established of the Protectory was necessary due to many of the boys in the Orphan Asylum needed a more disciplined setting. He feared their negative behaviors would influence the younger children. The first proposal was made in 1862 and St. John's Protectory was established in 1863 and incorporated the following year. The mission was to house boys who were inclined to truancy, disobedience, and willfulness. These boys worked on and performed chores on the vast farmland of what is now Martin Road. The first home was a small, frame building. The first workshop opened on October 14, 1866 and the chair factory was added in 1867. The chair factory was influenced by a visit of the Bishop to the House of Refuge in Rochester. Bishop Timon felt this would be an appropriate trade for the boys. The factory suffered a fire in 1868, and it was rebuilt and opened in January 1869. During the early days of the Protectory, the Brothers taught the school classes (on-site) until it was suggested by the Erie County Judge, who was also a board member, to have the Sisters teach. Upon arrival, Father Baker changed some of the physical characteristics of the Protectory. He immediately had the window bars removed and rebuilt the rooms to have a more home-like atmosphere. The vast majority of the children were white children with parentage linking to Ireland, Poland, England and Germany. During the year of 1874 to 1875, a total of ninety-five children were discharged (nine were adopted, six were indentured, fifty-five were returned to his parent/guardian, seven ran away, ten were transferred to other institutions, five were sent out of state and three were otherwise transferred). Of the remaining 135 boys, only twenty-eight were true orphans. Forty-one boys were half-orphans, and a staggering seventy boys had parents were still alive. Almost seventy percent of these children's parents were born in the United States. The Protectory was enlarged and it was dedicated on June 26, 1889. In 1895, a gymnasium, a recreation hall and a school were added. By 1896, the Protectory was under the direction of the Society for the Protection of Destitute Children. Boys were committed to the Protectory indefinitely by justices of the peace, police, and justices of the lower court. The length of stay was usually between three to six months. In some instances, children remained for over two years if the parents refused to take the child back or if the child was unsuitable to return to the family. Father Baker was assisted by one priest, six Brothers of the Order of the Holy Infancy of Jesus and eighteen Sisters of the Order of St. Joseph. Twelve lay men were either in charge of the workshops or teachers. The Sister looked after the domestic work, and the Brothers took charge of they boys when not in the shop. The trade shops were a separate department and divided between the older boys and the younger boys. The older boys worked in printing and electro-typing, shoe repair, tailoring, mending, and sewing, and working in the fields. The younger boys worked in the chair factory and caning factory. Those who worked in the print shop usually mastered the trade within two years and their qualifications were comparative to adults. Some of the boys were placed in printing offices to earn their own living. Placements were strategically done, so not to compromise any particular area of the city. Another wing was added to the Protectory in 1897. The Protectory was now five stories high and provided housing and education for 385 boys. The building had 190 rooms for living quarters and thirty rooms for trade schools. Water was gathered in three cisterns and pumped by a windmill into a tank in the attic. The grounds also had a well. Hoses were set in the center of every floor in the event of a fire. Baths were provided once a week and it would take two days for all to receive a bath. The Protectory had eight tubs and they were supplied with pipes with hot and cold water. The water closets were at the far end of the play yard near the workshops and did not offer much privacy. The boxes underneath the seats were exposed and on slides. They were emptied by a team of horses that pulled out the boxes and deposited on the land. Needless to say, the odor was offensive. Vessels were used at night and then emptied into the water closets in the morning. In 1901, Father Baker had 1,500 boys in his care from the entire country, Canada and other foreign countries including Ireland, England and France. Some children, as young as six years old, arrived with tags pinned to their clothing simply stating, "To Father Baker, Victoria, West Seneca, NY. At times the home became overcrowded and hallways were set up as emergency dormitories. Meetings were held quarterly by the board members to review cases considered for discharge. By this time, a child was never indentured nor adopted in the event the placement didn't work out, it was easier to take the child back to the Protectory. In order for a case to be reviewed, a request had to be made by the parents, friends, or the Protectory. A child was dismissed because of good behavior or the Protectory felt they did all they could for the child. Prior to release, an examination was completed of the requested party. Some of the boys were transferred to the Working Home. When there was no family, two agents were assigned to seek out placement and then follow-up on those placed. Often times, there would be an appeal to the area congregations and some children would be "put on display" during church services. If an application was made, the priest of the parish only allowed people who he saw fit to take on the responsibility. The clergy was also responsible for oversight of the placement. By 1911, the Protectory was an enormous plant consisting of dormitories, workshops, school buildings, an entertainment hall, farmland, and playgrounds. As federal laws changed, so did the population at the Protectory. By 1939, there were only 200 boys left at the Protectory. The Protectory was closed in 1956 and it was razed 1962. A high school and rectory were built on the site. The Protectory was replaced by a new branch of services referred to as Baker Hall, a residence for delinquent teenagers. The high school is now the Baker Hall School located at 777 Ridge Road serving its youth in residence. Baker Hall was moved in 1961, following with the trend of utilizing institutionalized settings. Homelike, cottage-style residents opened on Martin Road, the former Father Baker's Farm. 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Rovnak, 2007 Contact me directly at: tlr_14072@yahoo.com. -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Susmarski Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:11 PM To: NY Erie County Subject: [NYERIE] Susmarski - Buffalo, NY Michael and Julia Susmarski immigrated to the U.S. on November 3, 1883 from the Port of Bremen to the Port of New York.  In the 1892 New York State Census, I find Michael (age 33), with wife Julia (30) and sons Frank (7) and John (5) living in Buffalo, NY.   By the 1900 Federal Census I find only the youngest son, John, at St. John's Catholic Protectory in West Seneca Township.   I don't have access to Ancestry and am wondering if anyone can determine what became of John's parents and brother, particularly a date of death if they had died.   Also, does St. John's still exist?  Has anyone had success obtaining records from the Protectory?   Thanks for your help.   Ruth Susmarski Des Plaines, IL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.14.44/2475 - Release Date: 11/01/09 19:39:00