There is a basic question which you might want to consider: Are you a genealogist or a family historian? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "LAURIE" <laurieg14120@yahoo.com> To: "NYERIE" <nyerie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:31 PM Subject: [NYERIE] sensitive question for Findagrave : Ancestor Activist- Amico,Asciutto,Arico,Galbo,Giambrone,Mistretta,Frisa, Ortalano,Lazarra,Piacenti Van Ausdale,(Van Oesdale,Vanosdale,Van Arsdale, Van Arsdalen)Hendrickson Hartman,Mikuszewski,Szulc. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Laurie, Another thought..............if you have a gut feeling about one way or the other, go with your gut feeling. It's usually the best "person" to listen to. Good luck, Ruth

I just finished reading your latest post in which you answered some of my thoughts. I did find myself in a similar situation and did exactly what you said in your last line. I gave a copy to only those who asked for it but if I didn't want them to see certain info, I made sure it wasn't included in their copy. So far, it worked. Backing off is a good choice. Ruth At 02:31 PM 1/3/2010 -0800, you wrote: >I have included the 2nd family on the family tree, as far as I am >concerned they are family and belong there.BUT I did save a copy of the >tree first and any of our relatives (from the 1st family) that want a copy >get that one! >

How many in your family know about Findagrave and do they actually use it? I, also, contribute to Findagrave but I don't think anybody in my family or my husband's family know that it exists. However, I am a private type of person and do things without others knowing about it. If it wasn't for genealogy, I wouldn't know it exists. I agree with you that they all should be included in the memorial. From what you wrote, it sounds like you aren't sure who knows and who doesn't. My opinion: put it the way you feel it should be........that way you'll find out who knows about the situation and who uses Findagrave. If someone comes along with questions, tell them the truth and explain that you didn't know who knew about the situation and who didn't. After all, if they have the same blood running through their veins, I feel they should know (remember....my opinion). My biggest concern in these situations is 'in-breeding' when no one is around to explain. Let's face it, it's like planning a wedding........you can't please everybody but you do your best. Ruth

It is not necessarily true that if they don't know about FAG that they won't find the memorial. Try googling a few names of people you have memorialized on FAG. I typed in my grandfather's name on Google.  First I just used given and surname.  over 2900 hits, but something I had done for him on my blog showed up on the second page of hits. then, I tried a search for him and included his middle name.  now there are 90 hits and the FAG memorial I built for him is on the very first page of hits. so, if someone is out there snooping around and doing google searches, they may find FAG even if they have NO idea what it is. Just another point of view for you to consider. As far as the first question.  I don't have an answer, I personally do not like family secrets, because they usually come out (like you found out, etc.) and they usually are painful.  Funny thing, when found out, they often have a positive outcome after the initial screaming and hooping is over.  Truth can be "freeing"  (horrible choice of words, but, I think you get the drift.) Good luck with your final decision.  Carol Aging With Attitude Memory Is More Indelible Than Ink... Chinese proverb: "To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree without a root." My blog: http://www.reflectionsfromthefence.com/ ________________________________ From: Ruth Madar <deerhardt@verizon.net> To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 7:16:52 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Sensitive question for Findagrave memorial How many in your family know about Findagrave and do they actually use it?  I, also, contribute to Findagrave but I don't think anybody in my family or my husband's family know that it exists.  However, I am a private type of person and do things without others knowing about it.  If it wasn't for genealogy, I wouldn't know it exists.  I agree with you that they all should be included in the memorial.  From what you wrote, it sounds like you aren't sure who knows and who doesn't.  My opinion:  put it the way you feel it should be........that way you'll find out who knows about the situation and who uses Findagrave.  If someone comes along with questions, tell them the truth and explain that you didn't know who knew about the situation and who didn't.  After all, if they have the same blood running through their veins, I feel they should know (remember....my opinion).  My biggest concern in these situations is 'in-breeding' when no one is around to explain. Let's face it, it's like planning a wedding........you can't please everybody but you do your best. Ruth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nelson and Donna,   thank you very much for your 2 cents! I appreciate it. I do want to make sure I am thinking this out properly so to get other opinions is quite helpful.   Nelson, the others that DO know abt the 2nd family are quite certain they want it kept a secret from our 1st family. They didn't even want them included on the family tree. They are fellow family researchers and none of us were around when the other family came along. The elders in the 1st family that knew all of the deceased are not computer people or deceased themselves.   BUT, the most recent death of a child of the 2nd family is on findagrave there is someone posting flowers from that family to other members of the 2nd family. .So there is a newer generation of people that may see the memorial and be stunned.One person posted many of the graves of that family in Sept. 2009.   I would like them to find the "father" of the 2 families and I posted him on findagrave awhile back but only with his original family (which is all we knew at the time.)He is my grt uncle.   It is a conundrum...perfect word,Nelson.   I have included the 2nd family on the family tree, as far as I am concerned they are family and belong there.BUT I did save a copy of the tree first and any of our relatives (from the 1st family) that want a copy get that one!   I guess I will back off.     Thank you guys!   Laurie     Researching: Ancestor Activist- Amico,Asciutto,Arico,Galbo,Giambrone,Mistretta,Frisa, Ortalano,Lazarra,Piacenti Van Ausdale,(Van Oesdale,Vanosdale,Van Arsdale, Van Arsdalen)Hendrickson Hartman,Mikuszewski,Szulc.

Laurie, That is a real conundrum. Having a great revelation posted on line could really cause a stir among at least some of the relatives of both families. Since you said there are a few who do know, can you ask those members if they have confided in anyone else? You may find there are more aware of this than you thought. I would get their opinions on listing all family members. Another thought is that many of those who do not know about this may never see the web site, and therefore not be affected at all. Just a few thoughts. Good luck on your decision making. Nelson > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 18:50:18 -0800 > From: laurieg14120@yahoo.com > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYERIE] Sensitive question for Findagrave memorial > > Hi! > > I know many of you use Findagrave. I have been adding memorials for 2 years now thanks to a fellow lister! (you know who you are) > > I have a Uncle who was a career military man. Because of his travels, we discovered he had another family in another town. I know that for warly 1900's this is quite comon. > ( i suspect there are more) but we have documentation of the 2 families. > > For me, I feel BOTH families should be included in his findagrave memorial as "survived by". > I have no problem accepting the 2nd family. Only 2 other people in our family know abt the other family. We are familiar with the 1st family. There was no divorce of the 1st wife. > > One of the children of the 2nd family just passed away last week. > > Since the other family may not know abt us and most of our family does not know abt them....how can I tastefully include ALL family survivors in the findagrave memorial? > > Any ideas? I am stumped. > > laurieg > > > > > > Researching: Ancestor Activist- > > Amico,Asciutto,Arico,Galbo,Giambrone,Mistretta,Frisa, > Ortalano,Lazarra,Piacenti > Van Ausdale,(Van Oesdale,Vanosdale,Van Arsdale, > Van Arsdalen)Hendrickson > Hartman,Mikuszewski,Szulc. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/

Hi!   I know many of you use Findagrave. I have been adding memorials for 2 years now thanks to a fellow lister! (you know who you are)   I have a Uncle who was a career military man. Because of his travels, we discovered he had another family in another town. I know that for warly 1900's this is quite comon. ( i suspect there are more) but we have documentation of the 2 families.   For me, I feel BOTH families should be included in his findagrave memorial as "survived by". I have no problem accepting the 2nd family. Only 2 other people in our family know abt the other family. We are familiar with the 1st family. There was no divorce of the 1st wife.   One of the children of the 2nd family just passed away last week.   Since the other family may not know abt us and most of our family does not know abt them....how can I tastefully include ALL family survivors in the findagrave memorial?   Any ideas? I am stumped.   laurieg       Researching: Ancestor Activist- Amico,Asciutto,Arico,Galbo,Giambrone,Mistretta,Frisa, Ortalano,Lazarra,Piacenti Van Ausdale,(Van Oesdale,Vanosdale,Van Arsdale, Van Arsdalen)Hendrickson Hartman,Mikuszewski,Szulc.

Thank you Paul for the message. My family from that church are buried in the St. John's cemetery. Jann Whalen Parks On 12/17/09, Don&Linda <donlinda@2ki.net> wrote: > hi Ken > no I'm not that Linda! sorry! > Funny tho how you can connect to so many people on the internet! It still > amazes me! > My dad's parents both immigrated from Germany and settled in the Buffalo > area - and, so, my dad was born there, in 1920. > > Best wishes to you in your search~ > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Utha@aol.com> > To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ ,115 Gold St Buffalo > NY > > >> Hello Linda >> >> No I am not connected to that church. I was born in Buffalo in 1925 but >> I >> had a Brother who had a daughter named Linda and her Husbands name is Don >> and their last name was Walker. A real coincident. I live south of >> Seattle about 30 miles and near Mt. Rainier. >> >> Ken Fox >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

hi Ken no I'm not that Linda! sorry! Funny tho how you can connect to so many people on the internet! It still amazes me! My dad's parents both immigrated from Germany and settled in the Buffalo area - and, so, my dad was born there, in 1920. Best wishes to you in your search~ Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Utha@aol.com> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ ,115 Gold St Buffalo NY > Hello Linda > > No I am not connected to that church. I was born in Buffalo in 1925 but > I > had a Brother who had a daughter named Linda and her Husbands name is Don > and their last name was Walker. A real coincident. I live south of > Seattle about 30 miles and near Mt. Rainier. > > Ken Fox > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Here you go from the Binghamton Press, March 4, 1952 : AN EX-MARINE LANDS-Holdup of Settler's department store in Buffalo was foiled yesterday when an ex- Marine, Gail Zenner, extreme right, grabbed the gunman- suspect, Arthur S. Noworyta, by the throat, and disarmed him. The others, left to right, are: Sattler's doorman, John Burke, holding gun; John Barker, store detective, and Phil Saturen, a buyer. This picture, made an instant after capture, was made by Ferdinand Kasbrzak, a commercial photographer. Joe Endicott, NY In a message dated 12/16/2009 10:55:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, zenner_surname@yahoo.com writes: Daily News, New York's Picture News - March 4, 1952, Newspaper clipping. Caption: Captor at his throat. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~washingtonparish/blog/pic/ papa2.gif Can anyone help identify all of the people photographed in this newspaper clipping? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Linda No I am not connected to that church. I was born in Buffalo in 1925 but I had a Brother who had a daughter named Linda and her Husbands name is Don and their last name was Walker. A real coincident. I live south of Seattle about 30 miles and near Mt. Rainier. Ken Fox

hi Ken my family goes back to the '50s - and it's likely that my grandparents' families may have been members there, tho I'm not sure of that - just that they were all immigrants from Germany, who all settled in the Eastside area. They were Schlicht and Duewiger. Are you connected with the church? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Utha@aol.com> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ ,115 Gold St Buffalo NY > Linda what was your maiden name please > > Ken Fox > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda what was your maiden name please Ken Fox

I attended Trinity church when I was a little girl~ til we moved out of the area ~how sad to see it is closing - I remember vacation Bible school there in the summers........my little Sunday School classes, where I received stickers on the days I attended [& I still have that too!!] Does anyone know where I might find an online photo of it? just would be nice to have one to put with my family records. thanks, Linda

Daily News, New York's Picture News - March 4, 1952, Newspaper clipping. Caption: Captor at his throat. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~washingtonparish/blog/pic/papa2.gif Can anyone help identify all of the people photographed in this newspaper clipping?

Hello Sara, I could always ask if they can be , i would not think they would mind ., but i will wait til they get settled in over at the new location first . The Trinity section in Concordia Cemetery is a different church. If i remember correctly. That section belongs to Trinity Lutheran that was on Hickory Street and they had moved away years ago . But we do have members buried in St Stephens/St Peters/Trinity Lutheran sections but not that many , From going thru church records a lot of Trinity/Gold St members are buried in St Matthews on Clinton St & Buffalo Cemetery . When i do ask ,i know they will ask for details about filming the records , so if anyone has information on doing this , just let know . Maybe the Council at St Stephens/Bethlehem Church may have details since we filmed their records years back. Paul In a message dated 12/16/2009 12:23:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sa73bu@hotmail.com writes: Is there a chance that the Western New York Genealogical Society could film the records of the church and make them available at the Grosvernor Room? Is this the church that also has a section at Concordia Cemetery or is that a different Trinity? Sara Burkholder > From: hilburgerbentley@aol.com > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:51:04 -0500 > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY > > Hello Suzy, Well Elaine will stay on until all the paper work is done , The > records will all be transferred to St Stephens . so everyone should have > access to them . Do to the timing being around the holidays i have not been > unable to get a flight at a good price to be at the final service so i > will miss it . I really didn't think they would have the final service soon . > but iam still trying to find a flight . We have heard that S.S. Peter & > Paul Russian Orthodox on Ideal Street is also closing after the first of the > year also . .. > > Paul > In a message dated 12/15/2009 7:22:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sbrum64380@aol.com writes: > > > Oh Paul, what a shock! I have not finished researching those records. > What will happen to the secretary? She was so nice, and helpful with my > research when I was in Buffalo. Will you be going to Buffalo to be at the > last service? > > Suzy Brummer > Researching Peck, Schulz, Schwager and Stoldt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hilburgerbentley@aol.com > To: ny-buffalo-eastside@rootsweb.com > Cc: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 7:03 pm > Subject: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY > > > > For those who might have some family connection to Trinity UCC on Gold > treet also known as Trinity German Evangelical and as Trinity Evangelical > & > eformed in the past . It has been voted on that we will be closing our > hurch and merging with St Stephens-Bethlehem UCC as the first of the year > . > ur final service on Gold Street will be December 27, 2009 . The property > ill be put for sale and we have been told that all church records & > istorical information will be transferred to St Stephens-Bethlehem . I > just > hought > would share this information with everyone > > aul Hilburger > ------------------------------- > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The St Stephens Records Were Filmed & Are At The Buffalo Central Library, So I Imagine Once They Have The Records From Trinity United They Might Allow Them To Be Filmed Also. Jan http://www.buffalonydeaths.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Burkholder To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY Is there a chance that the Western New York Genealogical Society could film the records of the church and make them available at the Grosvernor Room? Is this the church that also has a section at Concordia Cemetery or is that a different Trinity? Sara Burkholder > From: hilburgerbentley@aol.com > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:51:04 -0500 > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY > > Hello Suzy, Well Elaine will stay on until all the paper work is done , The > records will all be transferred to St Stephens . so everyone should have > access to them . Do to the timing being around the holidays i have not been > unable to get a flight at a good price to be at the final service so i > will miss it . I really didn't think they would have the final service soon . > but iam still trying to find a flight . We have heard that S.S. Peter & > Paul Russian Orthodox on Ideal Street is also closing after the first of the > year also . .. > > Paul > In a message dated 12/15/2009 7:22:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sbrum64380@aol.com writes: > > > Oh Paul, what a shock! I have not finished researching those records. > What will happen to the secretary? She was so nice, and helpful with my > research when I was in Buffalo. Will you be going to Buffalo to be at the > last service? > > Suzy Brummer > Researching Peck, Schulz, Schwager and Stoldt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hilburgerbentley@aol.com > To: ny-buffalo-eastside@rootsweb.com > Cc: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 7:03 pm > Subject: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY > > > > For those who might have some family connection to Trinity UCC on Gold > treet also known as Trinity German Evangelical and as Trinity Evangelical > & > eformed in the past . It has been voted on that we will be closing our > hurch and merging with St Stephens-Bethlehem UCC as the first of the year > . > ur final service on Gold Street will be December 27, 2009 . The property > ill be put for sale and we have been told that all church records & > istorical information will be transferred to St Stephens-Bethlehem . I > just > hought > would share this information with everyone > > aul Hilburger > ------------------------------- > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there a chance that the Western New York Genealogical Society could film the records of the church and make them available at the Grosvernor Room? Is this the church that also has a section at Concordia Cemetery or is that a different Trinity? Sara Burkholder > From: hilburgerbentley@aol.com > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:51:04 -0500 > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY > > Hello Suzy, Well Elaine will stay on until all the paper work is done , The > records will all be transferred to St Stephens . so everyone should have > access to them . Do to the timing being around the holidays i have not been > unable to get a flight at a good price to be at the final service so i > will miss it . I really didn't think they would have the final service soon . > but iam still trying to find a flight . We have heard that S.S. Peter & > Paul Russian Orthodox on Ideal Street is also closing after the first of the > year also . .. > > Paul > In a message dated 12/15/2009 7:22:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sbrum64380@aol.com writes: > > > Oh Paul, what a shock! I have not finished researching those records. > What will happen to the secretary? She was so nice, and helpful with my > research when I was in Buffalo. Will you be going to Buffalo to be at the > last service? > > Suzy Brummer > Researching Peck, Schulz, Schwager and Stoldt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hilburgerbentley@aol.com > To: ny-buffalo-eastside@rootsweb.com > Cc: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 7:03 pm > Subject: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY > > > > For those who might have some family connection to Trinity UCC on Gold > treet also known as Trinity German Evangelical and as Trinity Evangelical > & > eformed in the past . It has been voted on that we will be closing our > hurch and merging with St Stephens-Bethlehem UCC as the first of the year > . > ur final service on Gold Street will be December 27, 2009 . The property > ill be put for sale and we have been told that all church records & > istorical information will be transferred to St Stephens-Bethlehem . I > just > hought > would share this information with everyone > > aul Hilburger > ------------------------------- > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/

Hello Suzy, Well Elaine will stay on until all the paper work is done , The records will all be transferred to St Stephens . so everyone should have access to them . Do to the timing being around the holidays i have not been unable to get a flight at a good price to be at the final service so i will miss it . I really didn't think they would have the final service soon . but iam still trying to find a flight . We have heard that S.S. Peter & Paul Russian Orthodox on Ideal Street is also closing after the first of the year also . .. Paul In a message dated 12/15/2009 7:22:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sbrum64380@aol.com writes: Oh Paul, what a shock! I have not finished researching those records. What will happen to the secretary? She was so nice, and helpful with my research when I was in Buffalo. Will you be going to Buffalo to be at the last service? Suzy Brummer Researching Peck, Schulz, Schwager and Stoldt -----Original Message----- From: hilburgerbentley@aol.com To: ny-buffalo-eastside@rootsweb.com Cc: nyerie@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Dec 15, 2009 7:03 pm Subject: [NYERIE] Trinity United Church Of Christ , 115 Gold St Buffalo NY For those who might have some family connection to Trinity UCC on Gold treet also known as Trinity German Evangelical and as Trinity Evangelical & eformed in the past . It has been voted on that we will be closing our hurch and merging with St Stephens-Bethlehem UCC as the first of the year . ur final service on Gold Street will be December 27, 2009 . The property ill be put for sale and we have been told that all church records & istorical information will be transferred to St Stephens-Bethlehem . I just hought would share this information with everyone aul Hilburger ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message