If she was Roman Catholic and lived in Kenmore, I would start with St. John the Baptist church in Kenmore. I'd also check with Mount Olivet Cemetery. If you need contact information, please let me know. Mary -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BobClancy Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:29 AM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Potts Info Request Rose Potts was Roman Catholic. -------------------------------------------------- From: "zona himmelsbach" <zbflogal@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:26 PM To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Potts Info Request > Bob, if you know what religion they were that might help locate the > cemetery. Maybe some of the "listers" will send some cemetery uls in to > the > "list"; this hasn't been done in a long time. > > Send for a copy of the original death certificate for Oliver, perhaps it > has > the name of the funeral home. > Zona > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:41 PM, BobClancy <clancspa@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Trying to find when Rose A Potts-wife of Oliver and Mother of Clifford- >> died and where Rose and Oliver are buried. They lived at 54 Argonne >> Drive, >> Kenmore. I have found a Rose Potts, age 71 years, died 27 Oct 1947 in >> Buffalo, but I'm not sure this is the person I'm looking for, although >> her >> age matches. From the Social Security death index, Oliver died in 1964. >> >> Any information, etc. would be appreciated. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rose Potts was Roman Catholic. -------------------------------------------------- From: "zona himmelsbach" <zbflogal@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:26 PM To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Potts Info Request > Bob, if you know what religion they were that might help locate the > cemetery. Maybe some of the "listers" will send some cemetery uls in to > the > "list"; this hasn't been done in a long time. > > Send for a copy of the original death certificate for Oliver, perhaps it > has > the name of the funeral home. > Zona > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:41 PM, BobClancy <clancspa@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Trying to find when Rose A Potts-wife of Oliver and Mother of Clifford- >> died and where Rose and Oliver are buried. They lived at 54 Argonne >> Drive, >> Kenmore. I have found a Rose Potts, age 71 years, died 27 Oct 1947 in >> Buffalo, but I'm not sure this is the person I'm looking for, although >> her >> age matches. From the Social Security death index, Oliver died in 1964. >> >> Any information, etc. would be appreciated. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, if you know what religion they were that might help locate the cemetery. Maybe some of the "listers" will send some cemetery uls in to the "list"; this hasn't been done in a long time. Send for a copy of the original death certificate for Oliver, perhaps it has the name of the funeral home. Zona On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:41 PM, BobClancy <clancspa@earthlink.net> wrote: > Trying to find when Rose A Potts-wife of Oliver and Mother of Clifford- > died and where Rose and Oliver are buried. They lived at 54 Argonne Drive, > Kenmore. I have found a Rose Potts, age 71 years, died 27 Oct 1947 in > Buffalo, but I'm not sure this is the person I'm looking for, although her > age matches. From the Social Security death index, Oliver died in 1964. > > Any information, etc. would be appreciated. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Trying to find when Rose A Potts-wife of Oliver and Mother of Clifford- died and where Rose and Oliver are buried. They lived at 54 Argonne Drive, Kenmore. I have found a Rose Potts, age 71 years, died 27 Oct 1947 in Buffalo, but I'm not sure this is the person I'm looking for, although her age matches. From the Social Security death index, Oliver died in 1964. Any information, etc. would be appreciated.

I had a little bit of a similar situation but with a first name. I was born in Western New York. My parents had settled on my given name, Janet Alice, then my dad changed jobs about a month before I was born and had a new colleague or boss named Janet. He didn't feel like having a baby around the house with the same name, so they named me Alice June instead. Then a few months later, they reverted to calling me Janet but they didn't change it legally. All my school records, and even my Social Security card, were in the name Janet except my birth certificate. It became a problem when I went to get my driver's license at age 16. We had a lawyer for another matter, so he submitted some paperwork, and it was changed pretty easily. After that, I had a birth certificate with the old name, and then the official name change papers from the state. Just last year, I tried to get a new official copy of my birth certificate, and I got a call from the Dept. of Health saying that my records had been "sealed". But I faxed them a copy of my old certificate and the name change paper and they sent me a new certificate with the NEW name, the first one I had ever gotten in that name. My point to all this is that you might have to get a lawyer to look into this for you, and if the name change wasn't done officially, to file papers with the state to make it all official. After that, you should be able to use the set of papers together to get your passport, and you might even be able to get a new birth certificate in the new name, like I did. Good luck. Janet Hall Werner Reston, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D.C. Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:03 AM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com; dparker708@aol.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] name change Hello Diane. My mom was born in the early 1930's in another state. Because her parents divorced and her mom remarried when she was 5 she used her stepfather's name throughout her school years. Never ever used her "real" name. At age 18 her stepfather took her down to the courthouse and had her name legally changed. Legally changing your name, unless there was an adoption, does not change the name on your birth certificate. Even though she changed her name, her birth certificate still bears her birth name. Kinda like when you marry, your name doesn't change on your birth certificate. If the birth certificate you get doesn't have your name on it, you might consider that it is your correct name, but you never knew it. You might have to go to the courthouse and file for a name change for yourself. Just my two cents... What did you do to apply for social security? Donna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My "birth" name, that is, my name on my birth certificate is my mother's maiden name. My "real" name, if you will :), is the name I've carried throughout my near whole life and it is my father's name. So, does this make it more or less complicated? I have no idea when my name became that of my father's but can only say I've had his name since before kindergarten. -----Original Message----- From: D.C. <kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com> To: nyerie@rootsweb.com; dparker708@aol.com Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 7:02 am Subject: Re: [NYERIE] name change Hello Diane. My mom was born in the early 1930's in another state. Because her parents divorced and her mom remarried when she was 5 she used her stepfather's name throughout her school years. Never ever used her "real" name. At age 18 her stepfather took her down to the courthouse and had her name legally changed. Legally changing your name, unless there was an adoption, does not change the name on your birth certificate. Even though she changed her name, her birth certificate still bears her birth name. Kinda like when you marry, your name doesn't change on your birth certificate. If the birth certificate you get doesn't have your name on it, you might consider that it is your correct name, but you never knew it. You might have to go to the courthouse and file for a name change for yourself. Just my two cents... What did you do to apply for social security? Donna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Diane. My mom was born in the early 1930's in another state. Because her parents divorced and her mom remarried when she was 5 she used her stepfather's name throughout her school years. Never ever used her "real" name. At age 18 her stepfather took her down to the courthouse and had her name legally changed. Legally changing your name, unless there was an adoption, does not change the name on your birth certificate. Even though she changed her name, her birth certificate still bears her birth name. Kinda like when you marry, your name doesn't change on your birth certificate. If the birth certificate you get doesn't have your name on it, you might consider that it is your correct name, but you never knew it. You might have to go to the courthouse and file for a name change for yourself. Just my two cents... What did you do to apply for social security? Donna

It's a child's right to have a name and county of origin. Good luck and I will say a prayer for you. Jann Whalen Parks On 2/12/10, dparker708@aol.com <dparker708@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello all - > > > I am wondering if anyone can give me direction. My birth certificate does > not have my name on it. Long story short, my mother wasn't married and was > trying to protect, I'm assuming, my birth father. The only paperwork I have > with his name on it is my Baptismal Certificate, but not my name. My mother > gave me her maiden name but apparently changed it when I was very small. I > don't know whether she went through the court, changed it on her own, or > what? I am asking for help because without a valid birth certificate I > cannot get a passport. I have written Albany, have been in contact with the > county building on Franklin, and City Hall. All I get is my invalid birth > certificate. I'm no longer living in Buffalo which makes it all the more > difficult. Does anyone know where I'd start with the finding out about my > name change and whether there is another birth certificate (after the name > change) filed anywhere? > > > You've all been an enormous help in the past with me locating my biological > father's side of the family. Thanks to you I now have two sisters, a bunch > of nieces, nephews, and cousins! > > > Diane > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

The judge would have had to sign an order to change the birth certificate also. This is often done when the registrar messes up the name really bad - it happened to my husband's uncles. They both had to go through channels to get it corrected. Also, there should be an affidavit you can fill out and have signed by people who were around when you were born. Anne (Percival) Kruszka - You GotAttitude? Researching Bowman, Chinn, Davidson, Kettler, Kirtley, Klijewski, Knost, Kruszka, Maitland, Oliphant, Percival, Synos, Zalot & Zimmeth http://tennlady-generational.blogspot.com/ http://geneanotes.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dparker708@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:18 AM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] name change Hello all - I am wondering if anyone can give me direction. My birth certificate does not have my name on it. Long story short, my mother wasn't married and was trying to protect, I'm assuming, my birth father. The only paperwork I have with his name on it is my Baptismal Certificate, but not my name. My mother gave me her maiden name but apparently changed it when I was very small. I don't know whether she went through the court, changed it on her own, or what? I am asking for help because without a valid birth certificate I cannot get a passport. I have written Albany, have been in contact with the county building on Franklin, and City Hall. All I get is my invalid birth certificate. I'm no longer living in Buffalo which makes it all the more difficult. Does anyone know where I'd start with the finding out about my name change and whether there is another birth certificate (after the name change) filed anywhere? You've all been an enormous help in the past with me locating my biological father's side of the family. Thanks to you I now have two sisters, a bunch of nieces, nephews, and cousins! Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2682 - Release Date: 02/11/10 10:09:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2682 - Release Date: 02/12/10 01:35:00

I'm wondering if you might find out by checking with the Surrogate Court. In Vermont it is called the Probate Court, but I think they are the same. Joann Nichols dparker708@aol.com wrote: > Hello all - > > > I am wondering if anyone can give me direction. My birth certificate does not have my name on it. Long story short, my mother wasn't married and was trying to protect, I'm assuming, my birth father. The only paperwork I have with his name on it is my Baptismal Certificate, but not my name. My mother gave me her maiden name but apparently changed it when I was very small. I don't know whether she went through the court, changed it on her own, or what? I am asking for help because without a valid birth certificate I cannot get a passport. I have written Albany, have been in contact with the county building on Franklin, and City Hall. All I get is my invalid birth certificate. I'm no longer living in Buffalo which makes it all the more difficult. Does anyone know where I'd start with the finding out about my name change and whether there is another birth certificate (after the name change) filed anywhere? > > > You've all been an enormous help in the past with me locating my biological father's side of the family. Thanks to you I now have two sisters, a bunch of nieces, nephews, and cousins! > > > Diane > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello all - I am wondering if anyone can give me direction. My birth certificate does not have my name on it. Long story short, my mother wasn't married and was trying to protect, I'm assuming, my birth father. The only paperwork I have with his name on it is my Baptismal Certificate, but not my name. My mother gave me her maiden name but apparently changed it when I was very small. I don't know whether she went through the court, changed it on her own, or what? I am asking for help because without a valid birth certificate I cannot get a passport. I have written Albany, have been in contact with the county building on Franklin, and City Hall. All I get is my invalid birth certificate. I'm no longer living in Buffalo which makes it all the more difficult. Does anyone know where I'd start with the finding out about my name change and whether there is another birth certificate (after the name change) filed anywhere? You've all been an enormous help in the past with me locating my biological father's side of the family. Thanks to you I now have two sisters, a bunch of nieces, nephews, and cousins! Diane

Rich, try www.findagrave.com also buffalonydeaths.com also www.fultonhistory.com I believe there was a theater chain (movie houses) owned by a Lowe family. Kevin ---- Rich Lowe <richlowe@web-iowa.com> wrote: > I am searching for info on a LOWE family that was in Buffalo. In > particular I am focused on Victoria LOWE who was the wife of Edwin > Joseph LOWE. Edwin was the son of Morris and Elizabeth STENGEL LOWE. > > 1900 Census Buffalo Ward 21, Erie, New York > Edwin Lowe 33 > Victoria Lowe 28 > Harold M Lowe 6 > Raymond J Lowe 9 > Dorathy Lowe 2 > > 1910 Census Buffalo Ward 24, Erie, New York > Edwin J Lowe 42 > Victoria Lowe 33 > Harold M Lowe 15 > Raymond J Lowe 13 > Dorothy J Lowe 12 > > Edwin is out of the picture apparently sometime after 1910 and is > found living in Chicago the rest of his life. The sons, at least, I > believe remained in the Buffalo area well into adulthood. > > Victoria is last found in the 1948 Buffalo City Directory. I would > like to know when and where she died and where she is buried. > > What resources are available locally or online that I could pursue for > death date, death certificate, cemetery records, obituaries (including > those of her children), etc? > > Though my last name is LOWE, Victoria is my blood relation rather than > her husband. Her maiden name was LAUBENSTINE and she was born in > Hunterdon County New Jersey in 1872. > > Rich Lowe > from Iowa > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching for info on a LOWE family that was in Buffalo. In particular I am focused on Victoria LOWE who was the wife of Edwin Joseph LOWE. Edwin was the son of Morris and Elizabeth STENGEL LOWE. 1900 Census Buffalo Ward 21, Erie, New York Edwin Lowe 33 Victoria Lowe 28 Harold M Lowe 6 Raymond J Lowe 9 Dorathy Lowe 2 1910 Census Buffalo Ward 24, Erie, New York Edwin J Lowe 42 Victoria Lowe 33 Harold M Lowe 15 Raymond J Lowe 13 Dorothy J Lowe 12 Edwin is out of the picture apparently sometime after 1910 and is found living in Chicago the rest of his life. The sons, at least, I believe remained in the Buffalo area well into adulthood. Victoria is last found in the 1948 Buffalo City Directory. I would like to know when and where she died and where she is buried. What resources are available locally or online that I could pursue for death date, death certificate, cemetery records, obituaries (including those of her children), etc? Though my last name is LOWE, Victoria is my blood relation rather than her husband. Her maiden name was LAUBENSTINE and she was born in Hunterdon County New Jersey in 1872. Rich Lowe from Iowa

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Mrs. William PERCIVAL which was taken at the Andre Photo Studio in Buffalo, New York. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1870's with Mrs. PERCIVAL appearing to be in her 30's at the time it was taken. I am hoping to locate someone from this PERCIVAL Family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Ruth, Amazing the stories that we each can probably tell! Thanks for sharing yours! Mary -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Madar Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:40 PM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors Mary, you made be giggle out loud. Since there hasn't been much activity on NYERIE, I've been enjoying everyone's little stories. I know we all have one or six! After my aunt died, my father and I were going through her photo's, we came across one that had on the back "John Karl's 1st wife". John Karl was my Dad's grandfather. Dad had a fit because no one told him Grandpa Karl was married twice. Thinking his only sister kept it from him. My Dad passed before I got into genealogy. That particular John Karl turned out to be his grandfather's uncle. Then I added four others. For me, the "name thing" is on the German French side, including those "ugh" middle names. But we sure get excited when we figure it out, don't we? Ruth At 12:55 PM 1/19/2010 -0500, you wrote: >All of my paternal grandfather's sisters were named Mary with different >middle names. All but one (the last one) went by the middle name. I >didn't know that they were all "Aunt Mary" until I started doing my research! > >Mary >(guess who I'm named after) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would assume it's the Virgin Mother as we are Catholic. -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hall Werner Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:04 PM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors That's funny. But which one are you named after? ;-) Janet Hall Werner -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of brenzelmf@roadrunner.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:56 PM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors All of my paternal grandfather's sisters were named Mary with different middle names. All but one (the last one) went by the middle name. I didn't know that they were all "Aunt Mary" until I started doing my research! Mary (guess who I'm named after) ---- Jann Parks <townefabric@ispmgt.com> wrote: > These Johns had different mothers also. I found a relative who named > all her daughter first name as Mary and then a different middle name. > They were call the middle name at home but not on offical papers. > About 5 of them, That is funny also. > > On 1/19/10, amzgrace <amzgrace@comcast.net> wrote: > > In a similar vein, my great-great grandfather was married twice. He named a > > son Ezra who died at age 10 then when he married wife #2, he named another > > son Ezra. Until I figured out how young the first one died, it was rather > > confusing. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jann Parks" <townefabric@ispmgt.com> > > To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:06 AM > > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors > > > > > >> My 2great grandfather was John Putney, He had a son John Putney, my > >> great grandfather. He had 2 sons first and last named John Putney. Tht > >> is really fun looking for family > >> > >> On 1/18/10, amzgrace <amzgrace@comcast.net> wrote: > >>> If he did what he said he was going to do, he created a genealogist's > >>> nightmare for his descendants!! > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "nora" <bouvx3@verizon.net> > >>> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:43 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors > >>> > >>> > >>>> Thought I'd share this as I am sure so many of us can appreciate it!!! > >>>> > >>>> /1852 NEW YEAR RESOLUTION -- SOLVE GENEALOGICAL MYSTERIES/ > >>>> > >>>> It is New Year's Eve 1852 and Henry HYDENWELL sits at his desk by > >>>> candlelight. He dips his quill pen in ink and begins to writes his New > >>>> Year's resolutions. > >>>> > >>>> 1. No man is truly well-educated unless he learns to spell his name > >>>> at least three different ways within the same document. I resolve to > >>>> give the > >>>> appearance of being extremely well-educated in the coming year. > >>>> > >>>> 2. I resolve to see to it that all of my children will have the same > >>>> names that my ancestors have used for six generations in a row. > >>>> > >>>> 3. My age is no one's business but my own. I hereby resolve to never > >>>> list the same age or birth year twice on any document. > >>>> > >>>> 4. I resolve to have each of my children baptized in a different > >>>> church -- either in a different faith or in a different parish. Every > >>>> third > >>>> child will not be baptized at all or will be baptized by an itinerant > >>>> minister > >>>> who keeps no records. > >>>> > >>>> 5. I resolve to move to a new town, new county, or new state at least > >>>> once every 10 years -- just before those pesky enumerators come around > >>>> asking silly questions. > >>>> > >>>> 6. I will make every attempt to reside in counties and towns where no > >>>> vital records are maintained or where the courthouse burns down every > >>>> few > >>>> years. > >>>> > >>>> 7. I resolve to join an obscure religious cult that does not believe > >>>> in record keeping or in participating in military service. > >>>> > >>>> 8. When the tax collector comes to my door, I'll loan him my pen, > >>>> which has been dipped in rapidly fading blue ink. > >>>> > >>>> 9. I resolve that if my beloved wife Mary should die, I will marry > >>>> another Mary. > >>>> > >>>> 10. I resolve not to make a will. Who needs to spend money on a > >>>> lawyer? > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes > >>>> > >>>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, you made be giggle out loud. Since there hasn't been much activity on NYERIE, I've been enjoying everyone's little stories. I know we all have one or six! After my aunt died, my father and I were going through her photo's, we came across one that had on the back "John Karl's 1st wife". John Karl was my Dad's grandfather. Dad had a fit because no one told him Grandpa Karl was married twice. Thinking his only sister kept it from him. My Dad passed before I got into genealogy. That particular John Karl turned out to be his grandfather's uncle. Then I added four others. For me, the "name thing" is on the German French side, including those "ugh" middle names. But we sure get excited when we figure it out, don't we? Ruth At 12:55 PM 1/19/2010 -0500, you wrote: >All of my paternal grandfather's sisters were named Mary with different >middle names. All but one (the last one) went by the middle name. I >didn't know that they were all "Aunt Mary" until I started doing my research! > >Mary >(guess who I'm named after)

That's funny. But which one are you named after? ;-) Janet Hall Werner -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of brenzelmf@roadrunner.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:56 PM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors All of my paternal grandfather's sisters were named Mary with different middle names. All but one (the last one) went by the middle name. I didn't know that they were all "Aunt Mary" until I started doing my research! Mary (guess who I'm named after) ---- Jann Parks <townefabric@ispmgt.com> wrote: > These Johns had different mothers also. I found a relative who named > all her daughter first name as Mary and then a different middle name. > They were call the middle name at home but not on offical papers. > About 5 of them, That is funny also. > > On 1/19/10, amzgrace <amzgrace@comcast.net> wrote: > > In a similar vein, my great-great grandfather was married twice. He named a > > son Ezra who died at age 10 then when he married wife #2, he named another > > son Ezra. Until I figured out how young the first one died, it was rather > > confusing. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jann Parks" <townefabric@ispmgt.com> > > To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:06 AM > > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors > > > > > >> My 2great grandfather was John Putney, He had a son John Putney, my > >> great grandfather. He had 2 sons first and last named John Putney. Tht > >> is really fun looking for family > >> > >> On 1/18/10, amzgrace <amzgrace@comcast.net> wrote: > >>> If he did what he said he was going to do, he created a genealogist's > >>> nightmare for his descendants!! > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "nora" <bouvx3@verizon.net> > >>> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:43 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors > >>> > >>> > >>>> Thought I'd share this as I am sure so many of us can appreciate it!!! > >>>> > >>>> /1852 NEW YEAR RESOLUTION -- SOLVE GENEALOGICAL MYSTERIES/ > >>>> > >>>> It is New Year's Eve 1852 and Henry HYDENWELL sits at his desk by > >>>> candlelight. He dips his quill pen in ink and begins to writes his New > >>>> Year's resolutions. > >>>> > >>>> 1. No man is truly well-educated unless he learns to spell his name > >>>> at least three different ways within the same document. I resolve to > >>>> give the > >>>> appearance of being extremely well-educated in the coming year. > >>>> > >>>> 2. I resolve to see to it that all of my children will have the same > >>>> names that my ancestors have used for six generations in a row. > >>>> > >>>> 3. My age is no one's business but my own. I hereby resolve to never > >>>> list the same age or birth year twice on any document. > >>>> > >>>> 4. I resolve to have each of my children baptized in a different > >>>> church -- either in a different faith or in a different parish. Every > >>>> third > >>>> child will not be baptized at all or will be baptized by an itinerant > >>>> minister > >>>> who keeps no records. > >>>> > >>>> 5. I resolve to move to a new town, new county, or new state at least > >>>> once every 10 years -- just before those pesky enumerators come around > >>>> asking silly questions. > >>>> > >>>> 6. I will make every attempt to reside in counties and towns where no > >>>> vital records are maintained or where the courthouse burns down every > >>>> few > >>>> years. > >>>> > >>>> 7. I resolve to join an obscure religious cult that does not believe > >>>> in record keeping or in participating in military service. > >>>> > >>>> 8. When the tax collector comes to my door, I'll loan him my pen, > >>>> which has been dipped in rapidly fading blue ink. > >>>> > >>>> 9. I resolve that if my beloved wife Mary should die, I will marry > >>>> another Mary. > >>>> > >>>> 10. I resolve not to make a will. 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All of my paternal grandfather's sisters were named Mary with different middle names. All but one (the last one) went by the middle name. I didn't know that they were all "Aunt Mary" until I started doing my research! Mary (guess who I'm named after) ---- Jann Parks <townefabric@ispmgt.com> wrote: > These Johns had different mothers also. I found a relative who named > all her daughter first name as Mary and then a different middle name. > They were call the middle name at home but not on offical papers. > About 5 of them, That is funny also. > > On 1/19/10, amzgrace <amzgrace@comcast.net> wrote: > > In a similar vein, my great-great grandfather was married twice. He named a > > son Ezra who died at age 10 then when he married wife #2, he named another > > son Ezra. Until I figured out how young the first one died, it was rather > > confusing. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jann Parks" <townefabric@ispmgt.com> > > To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:06 AM > > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors > > > > > >> My 2great grandfather was John Putney, He had a son John Putney, my > >> great grandfather. He had 2 sons first and last named John Putney. Tht > >> is really fun looking for family > >> > >> On 1/18/10, amzgrace <amzgrace@comcast.net> wrote: > >>> If he did what he said he was going to do, he created a genealogist's > >>> nightmare for his descendants!! > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "nora" <bouvx3@verizon.net> > >>> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:43 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors > >>> > >>> > >>>> Thought I'd share this as I am sure so many of us can appreciate it!!! > >>>> > >>>> /1852 NEW YEAR RESOLUTION -- SOLVE GENEALOGICAL MYSTERIES/ > >>>> > >>>> It is New Year's Eve 1852 and Henry HYDENWELL sits at his desk by > >>>> candlelight. He dips his quill pen in ink and begins to writes his New > >>>> Year's resolutions. > >>>> > >>>> 1. No man is truly well-educated unless he learns to spell his name > >>>> at least three different ways within the same document. I resolve to > >>>> give the > >>>> appearance of being extremely well-educated in the coming year. > >>>> > >>>> 2. I resolve to see to it that all of my children will have the same > >>>> names that my ancestors have used for six generations in a row. > >>>> > >>>> 3. My age is no one's business but my own. I hereby resolve to never > >>>> list the same age or birth year twice on any document. > >>>> > >>>> 4. I resolve to have each of my children baptized in a different > >>>> church -- either in a different faith or in a different parish. Every > >>>> third > >>>> child will not be baptized at all or will be baptized by an itinerant > >>>> minister > >>>> who keeps no records. > >>>> > >>>> 5. I resolve to move to a new town, new county, or new state at least > >>>> once every 10 years -- just before those pesky enumerators come around > >>>> asking silly questions. > >>>> > >>>> 6. I will make every attempt to reside in counties and towns where no > >>>> vital records are maintained or where the courthouse burns down every > >>>> few > >>>> years. > >>>> > >>>> 7. I resolve to join an obscure religious cult that does not believe > >>>> in record keeping or in participating in military service. > >>>> > >>>> 8. When the tax collector comes to my door, I'll loan him my pen, > >>>> which has been dipped in rapidly fading blue ink. > >>>> > >>>> 9. I resolve that if my beloved wife Mary should die, I will marry > >>>> another Mary. > >>>> > >>>> 10. I resolve not to make a will. Who needs to spend money on a > >>>> lawyer? > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes > >>>> > >>>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sara: I haven't heard this mentioned in several years but one story was that if every male had the first name Johann, the devil couldn;t find them (him?) Forgotten how that applied to females. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Burkholder" <sa73bu@hotmail.com> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors > > A lot of girls were given the first name Mary... Especially if their > family followed the Catholic faith..I have a family of Germans where all > the boys were named Johann. They went by their middle names; George, > Peter, Michael and so forth...But if you want a conundrum why would a > surname be changed from Schulz to Wodrich or from Tessier to Casey...Sure > makes life interesting.. Sara Burkholder > >> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 08:32:47 -0500 >> From: townefabric@ispmgt.com >> To: nyerie@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors >> >> These Johns had different mothers also. I found a relative who named >> all her daughter first name as Mary and then a different middle name. >> They were call the middle name at home but not on offical papers. >> About 5 of them, That is funny also. >> >> On 1/19/10, amzgrace <amzgrace@comcast.net> wrote: >> > In a similar vein, my great-great grandfather was married twice. He >> > named a >> > son Ezra who died at age 10 then when he married wife #2, he named >> > another >> > son Ezra. Until I figured out how young the first one died, it was >> > rather >> > confusing. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Jann Parks" <townefabric@ispmgt.com> >> > To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:06 AM >> > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors >> > >> > >> >> My 2great grandfather was John Putney, He had a son John Putney, my >> >> great grandfather. He had 2 sons first and last named John Putney. Tht >> >> is really fun looking for family >> >> >> >> On 1/18/10, amzgrace <amzgrace@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> If he did what he said he was going to do, he created a genealogist's >> >>> nightmare for his descendants!! >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "nora" <bouvx3@verizon.net> >> >>> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:43 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] our ancestors >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Thought I'd share this as I am sure so many of us can appreciate >> >>>> it!!! >> >>>> >> >>>> /1852 NEW YEAR RESOLUTION -- SOLVE GENEALOGICAL MYSTERIES/ >> >>>> >> >>>> It is New Year's Eve 1852 and Henry HYDENWELL sits at his desk by >> >>>> candlelight. He dips his quill pen in ink and begins to writes his >> >>>> New >> >>>> Year's resolutions. >> >>>> >> >>>> 1. No man is truly well-educated unless he learns to spell his name >> >>>> at least three different ways within the same document. I resolve to >> >>>> give the >> >>>> appearance of being extremely well-educated in the coming year. >> >>>> >> >>>> 2. I resolve to see to it that all of my children will have the same >> >>>> names that my ancestors have used for six generations in a row. >> >>>> >> >>>> 3. My age is no one's business but my own. I hereby resolve to never >> >>>> list the same age or birth year twice on any document. >> >>>> >> >>>> 4. I resolve to have each of my children baptized in a different >> >>>> church -- either in a different faith or in a different parish. >> >>>> Every >> >>>> third >> >>>> child will not be baptized at all or will be baptized by an >> >>>> itinerant >> >>>> minister >> >>>> who keeps no records. >> >>>> >> >>>> 5. I resolve to move to a new town, new county, or new state at >> >>>> least >> >>>> once every 10 years -- just before those pesky enumerators come >> >>>> around >> >>>> asking silly questions. >> >>>> >> >>>> 6. I will make every attempt to reside in counties and towns where >> >>>> no >> >>>> vital records are maintained or where the courthouse burns down >> >>>> every >> >>>> few >> >>>> years. >> >>>> >> >>>> 7. I resolve to join an obscure religious cult that does not believe >> >>>> in record keeping or in participating in military service. >> >>>> >> >>>> 8. When the tax collector comes to my door, I'll loan him my pen, >> >>>> which has been dipped in rapidly fading blue ink. >> >>>> >> >>>> 9. I resolve that if my beloved wife Mary should die, I will marry >> >>>> another Mary. >> >>>> >> >>>> 10. I resolve not to make a will. 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