Sorry but our country is headed for bankruptcy trying not to offend people who have come here illegally, sucking up resources without contributing. Here in NC it is almost a weekly occurrence that a drunken illegal alien kills someone with a hit and run offense. This is not a political statement, it is a fact. I have little hope that sanity will ever prevail and current laws be enforced. I trust you will not be offended by one of our FOUNDING FATHERS' quotes. The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. Thomas Jefferson Nelson > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:47:10 -0400 > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census > > The census is fine, but negative remarks about illegal immigrants are > definitely political. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/

>> I was all set to copy -- but I am not sure why I would want to go to >> the trouble since besides my name, birth and In regard to the census, and taking the time to copy it - it's not only for the info about yourself that you have to fill in, to save for descendants- but also for the form itself - the fact that it was mailed out to individuals, that we get delivered mail 6 days a week, the whole process- I just think it would be interesting in the future for people to see- After all, just your own handwriting might be interesting to them -it is already becoming a thing of the past! Tho this form doesn't ask for your handwriting, you do have to at least *print* your info - so you could put a little handwritten note with it, for your family files. I know when I found some handwriting of my grandfather [who died when my dad was young], it was a piece of him - it made me feel like I knew/had at least something about him. Just my feelings/opinions. Do what's right for you. I can already foresee the govt. going *paperless* in years to come ~ [we do income tax - couldn't they piggyback on that process?!] Linda

You are missing the point.  This is a genealogy discussion group, and political comments of this nature do not belong in this forum.   --- On Thu, 3/18/10, Nelson W. Metke <metkenw@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Nelson W. Metke <metkenw@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 3:11 PM Sorry but our country is headed for bankruptcy trying not to offend people who have come here illegally, sucking up resources without contributing.  Here in NC it is almost a weekly occurrence that a drunken illegal alien kills someone with a hit and run offense. This is not a political statement, it is a fact.  I have little hope that sanity will ever prevail and current laws be enforced. I trust you will not be offended by one of our FOUNDING FATHERS' quotes. The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. Thomas Jefferson Nelson > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:47:10 -0400 > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census > > The census is fine, but negative remarks about illegal immigrants are > definitely political. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                           _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To all, I am looking for any information on Jessie Connolly born July of 1884. Her maiden name was Kerr. Father: Alexander (or J. Alexander) Kerr born around 1839 in Renfrewshire Scotland. Mother: Sarah Jane Sharman born 1865 in Elmwood Ontario Canada. Sister: Elizabeth Margaret Kerr born in Elmwood Ontario Canada on 29-Sep-1892. Brother: Thadius born Aug of 1886. Elizabeth was my Grandmother. Bill Wiler CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of the original message.

<< illegal = negative it's an opinion, whether it be politically correct or not. One of the rights of an American citizen is to be able to express an opinion. If they don't like our opinion of them , then they can just sneak back to their own country. >> RootsWeb's guidelines are clear: "Honest, open communication is essential, but it must be delivered with respect for other members' thoughts and expressions... Post only information appropriate for a given topic." http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/rootsweb/community_guidelines.html Anybody got any Erie County genealogy to bounce around?

illegal = negative it's an opinion, whether it be politically correct or not. One of the rights of an American citizen is to be able to express an opinion. If they don't like our opinion of them , then they can just sneak back to their own country. I have nothing against any ethnic group. If they are here legally then all the more power to them. This country was built on diversity. Nora DLCulhane@cs.com wrote: > The census is fine, but negative remarks about illegal immigrants are > definitely political. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you Janet...the voice of reason and sensibility is sweet music.   I'm in Illinois and kind of new to the Erie List.  Does anyone have anything on a Michael and Julia Susmarski, who immigrated in 1883, settled in Erie County and had two sons, John and Frank?   I'm particularly interested in death dates for Michael and Julia.   Thanks, Ruth --- On Thu, 3/18/10, JanetB <janetbritton@att.net> wrote: From: JanetB <janetbritton@att.net> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 12:20 PM << illegal = negative it's an opinion, whether it be politically correct or not.  One of the rights of an American citizen is to be able to express an opinion.  If they don't like our opinion of them , then they can just sneak back to their own country. >> RootsWeb's guidelines are clear: "Honest, open communication is essential, but it must be delivered with respect for other members' thoughts and expressions... Post only information appropriate for a given topic." http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/rootsweb/community_guidelines.html Anybody got any Erie County genealogy to bounce around? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The census is fine, but negative remarks about illegal immigrants are definitely political. Diane

Political comments are inappropriate on a genealogy mailing list. Diane

I agree. Some people made such a big deal out of the census being too "invasive" - I guess if you have illegal aliens in the house, it's not invasive at all. I visitd a friend in Laredo, TX 10+ years go and there were paddy wagons driving through the neighborhoods that she said were looking for "illegals" which there could be a lot of so close to the border but I don't know exactly how they'd spot them as 99% of those who live there have dark hair and brown eyes. It would seem unless the illegal alien had committed a crime previously, they wouldn't be recognizable there. I have a very extensive genealogy with much more personal information in it than they asked for that my descendants can refer to that instead of the 2010 census. Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: <marennad@aol.com> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:55 PM Subject: [NYERIE] census > > I was all set to copy -- but I am not sure why I would want to go to the > trouble since besides my name, birth and how many people live here, all > they are interested in is --if I am Hispanic. Since I live with so many > illegals here in the Southwest, it will be interesting to see if they > truly report how many people are in each house. It is quite clear they do > not care where anyone was born. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JanetB <janetbritton@att.net> > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:43 am > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census > > > LOL! Mine's (filled out but) not getting mailed till April 1st. You never > know. Maybe someone will drop a baby on our doorstep! :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Ruth Madar > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:34 PM > To: nyerie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census > > Mine was in the mailbox with the flag up. I ran out, brought it in, tore > apart the flap, copied it, it didn't come out well, copied it in COLOR > (Duh!), came out good, taped the envelope seal (not very pretty) and > returned it to the mailbox. I GOT IT!! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I had a friend a few years back Mexican born but has her citzenship, who told me than that the Mexicans in the Southwest were strategizing to take control and get their land back. I did some genealogy research on the ACOSTA surname. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:15 PM, W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com>wrote: > by original law the Census Bureau can not ask that question unless > specifically directed by the Congress. > > One of the questions asked is about which Hispanic groupings if Hispanic. > > If the illegals send in their forms, you can bet one thing for sure, the > shift of political power from the Northeast to south and west including > the Southwest. > > David Samuelsen > > On 3/17/2010 2:55 PM, marennad@aol.com wrote: > > > > I was all set to copy -- but I am not sure why I would want to go to > the trouble since besides my name, birth and how many people live here, all > they are interested in is --if I am Hispanic. Since I live with so many > illegals here in the Southwest, it will be interesting to see if they truly > report how many people are in each house. It is quite clear they do not > care where anyone was born. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Diane, I personally don't see this as political, but part of our Amercan culture. The census has been a topic often on this board/mailing list for years; check out the archives. Zona On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:50 AM, <DLCulhane@cs.com> wrote: > Political comments are inappropriate on a genealogy mailing list. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Can you return it now? I thought you had to wait till April 1, since that is the date of the census? Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> To: <nyerie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census > It came in today! Short form. > > Promptly completed it and mailed today (dropping off at Postal Service > since I have PO Box there.) > > Now to make sure my neighbors have theirs. Utah is one state cheated out > of 435th representative because of a bizarre rule by Census Bureau (they > won't allow 20,000+ LDS and non LDS missionaries out of country. This > time they have to allow that because of Congress' directive. This is > sizable, because of the difference - North Carolina got one more) > > David Samuelsen > > On 3/17/2010 10:33 AM, Ruth Madar wrote: >> Mine was in the mailbox with the flag up. I ran out, brought it in, tore >> apart the flap, copied it, it didn't come out well, copied it in COLOR >> (Duh!), came out good, taped the envelope seal (not very pretty) and >> returned it to the mailbox. I GOT IT!! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

yes, if you don't expect any additions to your family household on that day. David Samuelsen On 3/17/2010 4:20 PM, Donna K. Vaughn wrote: > Can you return it now? I thought you had to wait till April 1, since that > is the date of the census? > > Donna

I was all set to copy -- but I am not sure why I would want to go to the trouble since besides my name, birth and how many people live here, all they are interested in is --if I am Hispanic. Since I live with so many illegals here in the Southwest, it will be interesting to see if they truly report how many people are in each house. It is quite clear they do not care where anyone was born. -----Original Message----- From: JanetB <janetbritton@att.net> To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 9:43 am Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census LOL! Mine's (filled out but) not getting mailed till April 1st. You never know. Maybe someone will drop a baby on our doorstep! :-) -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Madar Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:34 PM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census Mine was in the mailbox with the flag up. I ran out, brought it in, tore apart the flap, copied it, it didn't come out well, copied it in COLOR (Duh!), came out good, taped the envelope seal (not very pretty) and returned it to the mailbox. I GOT IT!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

by original law the Census Bureau can not ask that question unless specifically directed by the Congress. One of the questions asked is about which Hispanic groupings if Hispanic. If the illegals send in their forms, you can bet one thing for sure, the shift of political power from the Northeast to south and west including the Southwest. David Samuelsen On 3/17/2010 2:55 PM, marennad@aol.com wrote: > > I was all set to copy -- but I am not sure why I would want to go to the trouble since besides my name, birth and how many people live here, all they are interested in is --if I am Hispanic. Since I live with so many illegals here in the Southwest, it will be interesting to see if they truly report how many people are in each house. It is quite clear they do not care where anyone was born.

It came in today! Short form. Promptly completed it and mailed today (dropping off at Postal Service since I have PO Box there.) Now to make sure my neighbors have theirs. Utah is one state cheated out of 435th representative because of a bizarre rule by Census Bureau (they won't allow 20,000+ LDS and non LDS missionaries out of country. This time they have to allow that because of Congress' directive. This is sizable, because of the difference - North Carolina got one more) David Samuelsen On 3/17/2010 10:33 AM, Ruth Madar wrote: > Mine was in the mailbox with the flag up. I ran out, brought it in, tore > apart the flap, copied it, it didn't come out well, copied it in COLOR > (Duh!), came out good, taped the envelope seal (not very pretty) and > returned it to the mailbox. I GOT IT!!

LOL! Mine's (filled out but) not getting mailed till April 1st. You never know. Maybe someone will drop a baby on our doorstep! :-) -----Original Message----- From: nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyerie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Madar Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:34 PM To: nyerie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] census Mine was in the mailbox with the flag up. I ran out, brought it in, tore apart the flap, copied it, it didn't come out well, copied it in COLOR (Duh!), came out good, taped the envelope seal (not very pretty) and returned it to the mailbox. I GOT IT!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mine was in the mailbox with the flag up. I ran out, brought it in, tore apart the flap, copied it, it didn't come out well, copied it in COLOR (Duh!), came out good, taped the envelope seal (not very pretty) and returned it to the mailbox. I GOT IT!!

drat I forgot, now my HIMMELSBACH orsippenbuch is missing this. I wish the census was taken in person and would look the older censuses. Zona On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Don&Linda <donlinda@2ki.net> wrote: > hi > do your great-grandchildren a favor: > make a copy of your 2010 census form before you mail it back, and add it to > your genealogy papers! > > Many of us forgot to do that ten years ago- so thought I'd pass along the > reminder this time. > : )Linda > http://www.106thFA27thDiv.blogspot.com<http://www.106thfa27thdiv.blogspot.com/> > www.lindon.wordpress.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYERIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >