are you compensating for the date that was used as the BASE date for the census of that year?? Official census dates were: First Monday in August for 1790-1820 schedules June 1 for 1830-1880 First Monday in June for 1890 (most of this schedule was destroyed or badly damaged by a fire in 1921 - a card index to the 6,160 names on the surviving schedules is available on two rolls of National Archives film No. M496) June 1 for 1900 April 15 for 1910 January 1 for 1920 ----- Original Message ----- From: MJMCKEE1@aol.com To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: [NYERIE] Birth date for John Van Buren Thayer I am searching for an exact birth date for my grandfather, John Van Buren Thayer. He was born in Buffalo on Jan. 15 in either 1851 or 1852. Information in his obituary and other NY Times articles make for the 1852 date, but in the 1860 census under his father Hiram P. Thayer he is 9 years old which would make his birth year 1851. As there are no Buffalo officially recorded birth dates until 20 or so years later, does anyone know what Episcopal churches might have been in existence in those years and could have a baptism date? The other resource would be a newspaper birth announcement. ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Here! Here! You are so right. Maybe now would be a good time for a roll call! My Erie County surnames are: Lathrop(Don Juan,Chase, Paul Brigham of Elma) Emery (Alberta of Elma) Murray (Victor Henry, William of Eden) Ehrke (Louisa of Lancaster) Hammond(Onesiphorus, Siphorus of Eden) Tucker(Lovina of Eden) Odell (Spencer of Collins) Lang (Frederick Jacob of Buffalo) Wessel (Augusta of Buffalo) Adler (Albert of Buffalo) Arkland (Henry D., Ezra of Buffalo) -------Original Message------- From: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Date: 01/10/05 09:36:25 To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Language on the list Why are we wasting so much time on such "stuff". It just clogs up everyone's mail box and not a thing is settled, except we think we were right & everyone else wrong. ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

oh, it happens every year about this time... last year I was the target......but i is still heres..... guess everyone is just passing JANUARYtime, waitin on valentine's day! here, something else that is just as much off topic as these LANGUAGE POSTS! fix your sound, to a decent level, click on this http://mindoverpixels.com/anim_monkeystomo.html and then PLAY..... answer NO to any pop up that might appear.... On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:29:54 -0600, Betty P Powell <betts34@juno.com> wrote: > > Why are we wasting so much time on such "stuff". It just clogs up > everyone's mail box and not a thing is settled, except we think we were > right & everyone else wrong. > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Why are we wasting so much time on such "stuff". It just clogs up everyone's mail box and not a thing is settled, except we think we were right & everyone else wrong.

Hi, Im new, but I did notice the conflict on the list about speech, which is a given right, I believe. I agree with Ms. Sullivan, she said it nicely. I was raised in the city and that phrase is used often, and is acceptable, alot of phrases I use are considered ok. With everything that is going on in the world around us, I think people should be more accepting of one another, the subject of how to speak is just so shallow. Linda Dougan ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the TBSWebMail system at mail.worldconnx.net

My god, I wasn't going to respond to this line but I figured I would chime in with my opinion while I still live in a free Take a hint from George Carlin's 7 dirty words..... There was nothing dirty or offensive with the post. Just like the infamous wardrobe malfunction from last year's superbowl, I was watching and didn't see it. I take offense to all of the religious rhetoric being crammed down my throat everywhere I turn. I was raised Catholic, I practice it, but very few people I don't want to know, know. This is similar. If you don't like a post, NEWS FLASH FOR YOU - DELETE IT!!!! The delete key is a wonderful little invention. Before anymore of my freedoms speech are taken away by the narrow minded morals police who feel it is their right to tell everyone how to live their lives, I figured I would get my 2 cents down for posterity. Beth Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Language on the list >i think > you have mis read the post.... > and have not allowed for poor typing.... > > i do not think that the word intended was foul... > gee, there is a movie out at the moment that with a slight mis-type or > mis-speak would be absolutely terrible.... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ~~Leslie~~ > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Language on the list > > > > Laurie, the word *and* the attitude were inappropriate. > You are not alone in feeling that. Rootsweb has a > policy against foul language, so the List Administrator > may be handling this in the background. > > Leslie - Administrator for some of the other Rootsweb lists > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zona I Himmelsbach" <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> > > Laurie, I found no offensive language , but I will do a study on the > > word you may be referring to. > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Ok, I was not going to chime in either but after reading a few of these posts I can't help myself. I COULD have been offended by Beth's comment about religious rhetoric crammed down throat ...BUT I am completely over it I am NOT writing this post because I am offended it. I am using it only to make a point. My point is we have no idea who is on the receiving end of our comments. Maybe we should all think before we start typing, no doubt we are a mixed group of who knows what all.. grandmothers, grandfathers, parents, children, Conservatives, liberals, students, retired folks, favorite child, black sheep, religious, atheists...you never know who is going to take something the wrong way. why not just focus on the subject that brought us together here and try to let everything else go. I read things I don't like and delete them and forget them, I don't a thing about Beth so I do not take offense to what she says at all because I don't know her. I am sure she is a fine person a! s is everyone on the list but Genealogy should be the hot topic here maybe we can back to some day. "Beth Sullivan, DO" <bethdo97@alltel.net> wrote: My god, I wasn't going to respond to this line but I figured I would chime in with my opinion while I still live in a free Take a hint from George Carlin's 7 dirty words..... There was nothing dirty or offensive with the post. Just like the infamous wardrobe malfunction from last year's superbowl, I was watching and didn't see it. I take offense to all of the religious rhetoric being crammed down my throat everywhere I turn. I was raised Catholic, I practice it, but very few people I don't want to know, know. This is similar. If you don't like a post, NEWS FLASH FOR YOU - DELETE IT!!!! The delete key is a wonderful little invention. Before anymore of my freedoms speech are taken away by the narrow minded morals police who feel it is their right to tell everyone how to live their lives, I figured I would get my 2 cents down for posterity. Beth Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: ".... valentine53179" To: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Language on the list >i think > you have mis read the post.... > and have not allowed for poor typing.... > > i do not think that the word intended was foul... > gee, there is a movie out at the moment that with a slight mis-type or > mis-speak would be absolutely terrible.... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ~~Leslie~~ > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Language on the list > > > > Laurie, the word *and* the attitude were inappropriate. > You are not alone in feeling that. Rootsweb has a > policy against foul language, so the List Administrator > may be handling this in the background. > > Leslie - Administrator for some of the other Rootsweb lists > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zona I Himmelsbach" > > Laurie, I found no offensive language , but I will do a study on the > > word you may be referring to. > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx "Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" http://www.raogk.com/ Lenawee county, MI __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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my acquaintance, Richard Head, who I shared the emails with while he was visiting, got a kick out of these posts.

I obtained an 1881 death certificate from the City of Buffalo a few years back. Zona On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:39:49 -0800 Wilma Fleming Haynes <> writes: > Good afternoon - > > I am looking for any information I can find on my 3rd gr gm - Do any > of you > know if there is > Death certificates listed for that year? > > SALLY / or perhaps Sarah [GRAVES] SHEPARD > Born: 18 Apr 1800 New York [according to the 1850 census] > Died: 22 Apr 1881 Hamburg, Erie, New York > > Was the widow of - > > Joseph SHEPARD > Bp 26 Aug 1781 Litchfield county, CT > Died: 11 may 1858 Hamburg, Erie, New York > Bur: North Evans Cemetery, Evans, Erie, New York > > I have searched for her for a "zillion" years! AND thought if I > can find a > death certificate > Then perhaps her parents may be on it - > > Thank you for any help you can give to me - > > Wilma Fleming Haynes >

The guy made a typographical error!!! For crying out loud, MOVE ON!!! Oh Pluto, wherefor art thou!!!!!! Kerri In a message dated 1/9/05 8:37:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, Aug67@cox.net writes: Roberto, I definitely do *not* have idle time to mess with a foul language issue. But rather, as a list administrator for a few of the other Rootsweb lists, I have a *responsibility* to try to abide by their rules. You see, they allow all of us to use their servers at no cost, and I don't want us to lose that priviledge. Leslie

In he future if I try to help anyone I shall be certain that I do have time sufficient to peruse carefully and fully proofread it before sending it. I shall certainly be careful in the future, if there be one, that I don't misspell "click", a common conputer term. But at least I did give those of you with idle time and hands to match, something about which to turn up your respective olfactory appendages. R

You are right about that Val. Anytime someone mentions that movie I notice they are careful with the word for fear they will say it wrong. Most people think it is hilarious--only one thought it so crude they walked out. Grace

I took it to mean he would search liked a detective or a "dick" would. I took no offense either. Don't be so sensitive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zona I Himmelsbach" <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Language on the list > Laurie, I found no offensive language , but I will do a study on the > word you may be referring to. > As for listing short replies, that seem to lead nowhere, just wait a > few minutes while the other lister, finishes what he/she may be doing, > collects their more fruitful thoughts and gives us something we need - > like an url, address or fact. > > I do appreciate your concern. The list Administrator and other listers > will keep us in check. > > Have a cup of lemon/honey/pekoe tea to relax. The world's problems will > one day be still. God see us through it all. > Warmly, > Zona in soggy San Bernardino County > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:35:34 -0800 (PST) LAURIE <laurieg14120@yahoo.com> > writes: >> Is the language I read in a certain reply to Zona necesary? >> >> I have enjoyed learning so much on this list. I think it is very >> nice the way family researchers help each other out. >> If someone doesn't have time or desire to help another researcher >> out, can't it be said more politely? >> We have all had to start somewhere and ALL of us have benefitted >> from someone elses experience.If you do not want to help someone >> else out, don't offer advise or volunteer. >> Isn't it enough to to deal with road rage and angry people out in >> the real world everyday? I have to come home and deal with it now? >> And then we Americans wonder why the rest of the world has grown to >> hate us so much? >> >> laurieg >> >> >> >> >> .....with liberty and justice for all! >> >> --------------------------------- >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. >> >> >> ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >> To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, >> find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

i think you have mis read the post.... and have not allowed for poor typing.... i do not think that the word intended was foul... gee, there is a movie out at the moment that with a slight mis-type or mis-speak would be absolutely terrible.... ----- Original Message ----- From: ~~Leslie~~ To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Language on the list Laurie, the word *and* the attitude were inappropriate. You are not alone in feeling that. Rootsweb has a policy against foul language, so the List Administrator may be handling this in the background. Leslie - Administrator for some of the other Rootsweb lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zona I Himmelsbach" <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> > Laurie, I found no offensive language , but I will do a study on the > word you may be referring to. ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

read the f names http://ddebus.free.fr/alsaeclair.php3?vil=MASEVAUX Zona On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:20:52 -0600 grace w gathman <wallace26@juno.com> writes: > You are right about that Val. Anytime someone mentions that movie I > notice they are careful with the word for fear they will say it > wrong. > Most people think it is hilarious--only one thought it so crude > they > walked out. Grace >

Roberto, I definitely do *not* have idle time to mess with a foul language issue. But rather, as a list administrator for a few of the other Rootsweb lists, I have a *responsibility* to try to abide by their rules. You see, they allow all of us to use their servers at no cost, and I don't want us to lose that priviledge. Leslie

The records center in St. Louis may not be able to send you his complete records. See the following site for information on what records may have survived the 1973 fire and alternative sources of military service data: http://www.va.gov/pressrel/99stlou.htm "A fire at the NPRC in St. Louis on July 12, 1973, destroyed about 80 percent of the records for Army personnel discharged between November 1, 1912, and January 1, 1960. About 75 percent of the records for Air Force personnel with surnames from "Hubbard" through "Z" discharged between September 25, 1947, and January 1, 1964, were also destroyed." ----- Original Message ----- From: <Utha@aol.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Naval Records > As a relative of one that served in the service during WW11 you can write > to > the Records office in St. Louis and they will send you his complete > records. > I filed my discharge papers in Erie County when I got out of the service > and that only gives you the Order of separation and copies of the > Discharge. > Just go to Records Federal and you can trace down the correct address. > If I > can be of further assistance just E Mail me. > > Good Luck > _Utha@aol.com_ (mailto:Utha@aol.com) > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Laurie and others, I too am a rootsweb administrator of a few lists. I certainly believe it will be found that the slang colloquialism used will be found acceptable. Goddess of Buffalo (how's that for Ego) Zona On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:48:46 -0700 "~~Leslie~~" <Aug67@cox.net> writes: > > Laurie, the word *and* the attitude were inappropriate. > You are not alone in feeling that. Rootsweb has a > policy against foul language, so the List Administrator > may be handling this in the background. > > Leslie - Administrator for some of the other Rootsweb lists > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zona I Himmelsbach" <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> > > Laurie, I found no offensive language , but I will do a study on > the > > word you may be referring to. > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Laurie, the word *and* the attitude were inappropriate. You are not alone in feeling that. Rootsweb has a policy against foul language, so the List Administrator may be handling this in the background. Leslie - Administrator for some of the other Rootsweb lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zona I Himmelsbach" <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> > Laurie, I found no offensive language , but I will do a study on the > word you may be referring to.