George, many thanks ---------- >From: George Richmond <grichmon@localnet.com> >To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Teamster, Buffalo Chemical Company >Date: Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 5:58 PM > > Hi Cindy, > >>I'm intrigued with my Great grandfather's occupation. I was wondering if >>anyone would mind checking the Buffalo City Directory for 1891 and let me >>know if there is such a company as Buffalo Chemical Company and its address. >> >>The 1891 article, speaks of an accident my great grandfather had, falling >>off a wagon he was operating. He was taken to No. 7 Station and attended by >>Dr. E. J. Murphy and removed to Finch Hospital. It would be great if some >>one could tell me about the station and where the hospital was located. > > The 1891 directory lists: > Buffalo Chemical Works (Theo V Fowler, president), office Abbott road > near iron bridge. > > A check of the online 1894 map, reachable at: > http://www.buffaloresearch.com > scroll down to Maps, click on Buffalo 1894 > shows a large establishment on Abbott's Corners Road (today's South > Park Ave) just north of the bridge across the Buffalo river. There > were at least 10 buildings on the site, some 2 story brick, others 1 > story brick or frame. The plant had its own railroad siding. > > Police Station No. 7 was at the corner of Louisiana and Elk sts. > (Elk is here called South Park today.) This station is about 1.5 > miles from the chemical plant. > > Finch Hospital was in a large building on the Southwest corner of > Swan St and Michigan Ave. The directory listing was: > Fitch Accident Hospital, Room 14, Fitch Institute Bldg, Swan corner > Michigan. Under the direction of a committee of the Charity > Organization Society. > > Another occupant of the building was the Fitch Creche, likely the > oldest day care center in the United States. It was founded in 1880 > by Maria Love, a child of wealthy parents, who wished to provide care > for children of single and widowed mothers who had to work for a > living. Miss Love is well known in Buffalo, even though she died in > 1931. There is still an annual event called the Children's Charity > Ball to benefit the Maria M. Love Convelescent Fund. I remember > attending one or two of these in the early 1940s. She figures > prominently in the novel "City of Light", but don't believe > everything said about her there. > > E. J. Murphy did not appear in the directory listing of physicians. > > George > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

I have found a reference to the fact that an ancestor was living at 735 Delaware Ave., Buffalo. This was probably somewhere between 1900 and 1940. The surname was Waters, Brown or Starke (maiden name and two married names). Has anyone access to an old directory of Buffalo that might indicate whether any of those names turn up at that address anytime in that period? Thanks for any help or suggestions. Alan Brown

I don't think anyone said it was an "excuse." I think this person was just giving a possible scenario. The fact is, some households or people within a household were missed for unknown reasons. It happened and DOES happen. It's ok. The sun will still rise tomorrow. -------Original Message------- From: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Date: 01/20/05 11:50:12 To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 >Could it be that they were traveling elsewhere that day, out shopping, >etc. Z: That's not supposed to be an excuse. The census taker's responsibility is to keep coming back until he finds a competent person at home. G ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

He was a barber, died June 25, 1950; buried at St. Stan's. He was a twin to Adam "Ed" Kruszka and brother of Valentine and Leo. Parents were Michael and Josephine (Glowska) Kruszka. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars & Rene Nilsson" <nilsson@adelphia.net> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: RE: [NYERIE] Kruszka > Hi, > > What other info do you have about Stanley? > > Rene' > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anne Kruszka [mailto:gen.witch@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:56 AM >> To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 >> >> >> I know I have looked my Stanley Kruszka up by his street address. Not >> there - Went through the whole ED. >> >> Tried on Ancestry and HQ looking for Stanley. >> >> No luck. Not there. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amy L. Lathrop" <hbic3@juno.com> >> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 >> >> >> > >> > Really not an uncommon thing. The culprit could be, as >> one person said, >> > they were out shopping. Yes, they might have been skipped for some >> > reason. >> > The name you are looking for might have been spelled some >> very strange >> > way >> > you might not suspect by the enumerator, or the indexers, >> trying to read >> > the >> > name read it incorrectly. >> > >> > In my case, Theodore Ehrke was listed as Thomas Corke. Also, If a >> > page >> > was >> > too badly damaged or decayed or the handwriting was just >> attrocious, those >> > pages were not indexed. >> > >> > It might be helpful, if you haven't tried to do so all >> ready, to look >> > them up according to their street address. It is a time consuming, >> > but if their correct address is listed, with some patience you can >> > find it. >> > >> > >> > Amy >> > >> > >> > -------Original Message------- >> > >> > From: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com >> > Date: 01/20/05 08:47:41 >> > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 >> > >> > I question if Ancestry.com has complete census'. I have looked for >> > relatives >> > that I know were in the United States specifically the >> Western New York >> > area >> > at the time a census was taken, and not found them. I have >> also found Gr >> > Grandparents in 1900, not in 1910 and then again in 1920. I >> know for a >> > fact >> > that >> > they had the same address the whole time. Perhaps the >> reason is that >> > people >> > were skipped. Not sure - just my theory. >> > >> > >> > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >> > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose >> <dtrose@cox.net> See the >> > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> > http://www ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >> > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose >> <dtrose@cox.net> See the >> > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> > >> > ============================== >> > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your >> ancestors, find >> > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > >> >> >> ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >> To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records >> added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the >> world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi, What other info do you have about Stanley? Rene' > -----Original Message----- > From: Anne Kruszka [mailto:gen.witch@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:56 AM > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 > > > I know I have looked my Stanley Kruszka up by his street address. Not > there - Went through the whole ED. > > Tried on Ancestry and HQ looking for Stanley. > > No luck. Not there. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amy L. Lathrop" <hbic3@juno.com> > To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 > > > > > > Really not an uncommon thing. The culprit could be, as > one person said, > > they were out shopping. Yes, they might have been skipped for some > > reason. > > The name you are looking for might have been spelled some > very strange > > way > > you might not suspect by the enumerator, or the indexers, > trying to read > > the > > name read it incorrectly. > > > > In my case, Theodore Ehrke was listed as Thomas Corke. Also, If a > > page > > was > > too badly damaged or decayed or the handwriting was just > attrocious, those > > pages were not indexed. > > > > It might be helpful, if you haven't tried to do so all > ready, to look > > them up according to their street address. It is a time consuming, > > but if their correct address is listed, with some patience you can > > find it. > > > > > > Amy > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: 01/20/05 08:47:41 > > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 > > > > I question if Ancestry.com has complete census'. I have looked for > > relatives > > that I know were in the United States specifically the > Western New York > > area > > at the time a census was taken, and not found them. I have > also found Gr > > Grandparents in 1900, not in 1910 and then again in 1920. I > know for a > > fact > > that > > they had the same address the whole time. Perhaps the > reason is that > > people > > were skipped. Not sure - just my theory. > > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > <dtrose@cox.net> See the > > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > <dtrose@cox.net> See the > > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your > ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

>Could it be that they were traveling elsewhere that day, out shopping, >etc. Z: That's not supposed to be an excuse. The census taker's responsibility is to keep coming back until he finds a competent person at home. G

>I question if Ancestry.com has complete census'. I have looked for relatives >that I know were in the United States specifically the Western New York area >at the time a census was taken, and not found them. I have also found Gr >Grandparents in 1900, not in 1910 and then again in 1920. I know for >a fact that >they had the same address the whole time. Perhaps the reason is that people >were skipped. Not sure - just my theory. I think the problem is that indexers are fallible. I needed to find a specific family in 1900 in Buffalo, where I was positive they were. I tried the Ancestry index -- not found. The name was not particularly difficult, and a couple of brothers showed up, but my family was missing. Then I tried Hertage Quest -- same result. I used all my tricks -- first name search, limited by age, birthplace, etc. -- and scanned the couple of hundred results. No joy. At the library yesterday I checked the 1900 city directory for his address, then went to the ED maps, found the right one, mounted the film, and found the family almost instantly. Elapsed time about 5 minutes. The pages (the family was split across a page boundary) were not too difficult to read (a little faded ink, a water stain across the right side), So how did all the indexers miss this family? Carelessness? Is there any quality control? George

In checking some of my families on census records, I have also found that entire streets are missing from the Ancestry.com transcriptions. Even if that person is indexed, if you try to go to the page referenced, the image will not be there. I have found where 10-20 page sections are missing. Perhaps that is another reason why we can't find our ancestors. Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Is there a way to get a list of the voters in Erie Co from 1800-1830? Still looking for Larabees in Clarence Erie Co., NY(Samuel B. Larabee(Laraby) Julie

I know I have looked my Stanley Kruszka up by his street address. Not there - Went through the whole ED. Tried on Ancestry and HQ looking for Stanley. No luck. Not there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy L. Lathrop" <hbic3@juno.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 > > Really not an uncommon thing. The culprit could be, as one person said, > they were out shopping. Yes, they might have been skipped for some > reason. > The name you are looking for might have been spelled some very strange > way > you might not suspect by the enumerator, or the indexers, trying to read > the > name read it incorrectly. > > In my case, Theodore Ehrke was listed as Thomas Corke. Also, If a page > was > too badly damaged or decayed or the handwriting was just attrocious, those > pages were not indexed. > > It might be helpful, if you haven't tried to do so all ready, to look them > up according to their street address. It is a time consuming, but if > their > correct address is listed, with some patience you can find it. > > > Amy > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: 01/20/05 08:47:41 > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 > > I question if Ancestry.com has complete census'. I have looked for > relatives > that I know were in the United States specifically the Western New York > area > at the time a census was taken, and not found them. I have also found Gr > Grandparents in 1900, not in 1910 and then again in 1920. I know for a > fact > that > they had the same address the whole time. Perhaps the reason is that > people > were skipped. Not sure - just my theory. > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www > ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Really not an uncommon thing. The culprit could be, as one person said, they were out shopping. Yes, they might have been skipped for some reason. The name you are looking for might have been spelled some very strange way you might not suspect by the enumerator, or the indexers, trying to read the name read it incorrectly. In my case, Theodore Ehrke was listed as Thomas Corke. Also, If a page was too badly damaged or decayed or the handwriting was just attrocious, those pages were not indexed. It might be helpful, if you haven't tried to do so all ready, to look them up according to their street address. It is a time consuming, but if their correct address is listed, with some patience you can find it. Amy -------Original Message------- From: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Date: 01/20/05 08:47:41 To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 I question if Ancestry.com has complete census'. I have looked for relatives that I know were in the United States specifically the Western New York area at the time a census was taken, and not found them. I have also found Gr Grandparents in 1900, not in 1910 and then again in 1920. I know for a fact that they had the same address the whole time. Perhaps the reason is that people were skipped. Not sure - just my theory. ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

If you read the description, you will find that they did not index pages they could not read. IF you have ever looked at films of census and seen some of the pages, it is no wonder. I too have someone missing from the 1930 Census, Stanley Kruszka a barber who was born April 22 1899. I know he was there, can't find him anywhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MYSHOPPE44@aol.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Census lookup - Buffalo 1930 >I question if Ancestry.com has complete census'. I have looked for >relatives > that I know were in the United States specifically the Western New York > area > at the time a census was taken, and not found them. I have also found Gr > Grandparents in 1900, not in 1910 and then again in 1920. I know for a > fact that > they had the same address the whole time. Perhaps the reason is that > people > were skipped. Not sure - just my theory. > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

I question if Ancestry.com has complete census'. I have looked for relatives that I know were in the United States specifically the Western New York area at the time a census was taken, and not found them. I have also found Gr Grandparents in 1900, not in 1910 and then again in 1920. I know for a fact that they had the same address the whole time. Perhaps the reason is that people were skipped. Not sure - just my theory.

Just a note of caution. I looked at the index on Ancestry.com for my grandfather and didn't find him. But I knew he was on the census records because I had already found a copy. So, I went to the page on Ancestry.com records and sure enough there he was. My point being, don't rely on the index - go to the actual pages and search. I reported the error but received no feedback. Good luck to all! Edna in Kansas, enjoying spring like weather after a bad ice storm!

Searching for information on the following surnames in Buffalo from the 1850's. HILLMAN, HAMMERSMITH, HABBICK, BROGAN, BRENNAN, KEIPPER, BICKEL, ADLER, KRIESE

Could it be that they were traveling elsewhere that day, out shopping, etc. Zona On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:43:40 EST MYSHOPPE44@aol.com writes: > I question if Ancestry.com has complete census'. I have looked for > relatives > that I know were in the United States specifically the Western New > York area > at the time a census was taken, and not found them. I have also > found Gr > Grandparents in 1900, not in 1910 and then again in 1920. I know for > a fact that > they had the same address the whole time. Perhaps the reason is that > people > were skipped. Not sure - just my theory. >

Thanks again George. You have been so helpful. It is all so mysterious - my father's sister Dorothy Josephine Desimone nee Wilson seems not to have left a trace! Heather Wilson --- George Richmond <grichmon@localnet.com> wrote: > >Hi: I am wondering if you could check the 1930 > census > >in Buffalo for Gordon Laurance Wilson & his sister > >Dorothy Wilson. I would very much appreciate it. > I > >live in B.C. & know a lot about Ontario & New > >Brunswick genealogy. If anyone needs help please > let > >me know! > > Heather, > I checked the Ancestry 1930 index, and they are not > there. Sorry. > George > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and > search for your ancestors at the same time. Share > your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

>Hi: I am wondering if you could check the 1930 census >in Buffalo for Gordon Laurance Wilson & his sister >Dorothy Wilson. I would very much appreciate it. I >live in B.C. & know a lot about Ontario & New >Brunswick genealogy. If anyone needs help please let >me know! Heather, I checked the Ancestry 1930 index, and they are not there. Sorry. George

Hi Cindy, >I'm intrigued with my Great grandfather's occupation. I was wondering if >anyone would mind checking the Buffalo City Directory for 1891 and let me >know if there is such a company as Buffalo Chemical Company and its address. > >The 1891 article, speaks of an accident my great grandfather had, falling >off a wagon he was operating. He was taken to No. 7 Station and attended by >Dr. E. J. Murphy and removed to Finch Hospital. It would be great if some >one could tell me about the station and where the hospital was located. The 1891 directory lists: Buffalo Chemical Works (Theo V Fowler, president), office Abbott road near iron bridge. A check of the online 1894 map, reachable at: http://www.buffaloresearch.com scroll down to Maps, click on Buffalo 1894 shows a large establishment on Abbott's Corners Road (today's South Park Ave) just north of the bridge across the Buffalo river. There were at least 10 buildings on the site, some 2 story brick, others 1 story brick or frame. The plant had its own railroad siding. Police Station No. 7 was at the corner of Louisiana and Elk sts. (Elk is here called South Park today.) This station is about 1.5 miles from the chemical plant. Finch Hospital was in a large building on the Southwest corner of Swan St and Michigan Ave. The directory listing was: Fitch Accident Hospital, Room 14, Fitch Institute Bldg, Swan corner Michigan. Under the direction of a committee of the Charity Organization Society. Another occupant of the building was the Fitch Creche, likely the oldest day care center in the United States. It was founded in 1880 by Maria Love, a child of wealthy parents, who wished to provide care for children of single and widowed mothers who had to work for a living. Miss Love is well known in Buffalo, even though she died in 1931. There is still an annual event called the Children's Charity Ball to benefit the Maria M. Love Convelescent Fund. I remember attending one or two of these in the early 1940s. She figures prominently in the novel "City of Light", but don't believe everything said about her there. E. J. Murphy did not appear in the directory listing of physicians. George

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3770934562&ssPageName=ADME:B:WN:US:1 states this info...sources not cited and info not verified... IF anyone does by chance know the source of info herein, i would appreciate a citation... i believe, it is from a published book of 1876, unnamed... but, if anyone on list is related to this family, i would like to speak about any children that may have existed... "Mr. John D. Jennings. Mr. Jennings was born April 10, 1816, in the town of Benson, Rutland county, Vermont. His father, Samuel Jennings, was born in 1791, in the town of Bethlehem, New York. Samuel moved to Lockport, New York, in 1820, and built the first frame house in that place, which was known as the Lockport hotel, and which he kept until 1832. In 1834, at the age of eighteen years, Mr. J.D. Jennings engaged in the real estate business in the city of Buffalo, New York. In 1836 he moved to the city of New York, and continued in the same business until January, 1837, when, owing to the financial crisis of the previous year, and the consequent depreciation of real estate, his occupation was gone. He then engaged in the mercantile business, purchasing a stock of goods, which he brought to Chicago, July 1, 1837. But finding the Chicago of that day - then but recently incorporated - so different from his expectation, he shipped his goods to Cass county , Michigan, and continued in business there until 1842, although he spent a good portion of this time in Chicago. In the spring of 1843, Mr. Jennings moved his family to Chicago, and again commenced dealing in real estate. During the summer of 1843 he built the first block store erected on Lake street, east of State street. He also continued in the mercantile business until 1850, when he gave that up, and gave his whole attention to the real estate business, in which he was very successful. ! He always had the reputation of being a very prompt, energetic and shrewd business man; farseeing in real estate transactions, and yet very lenient toward those doing business with him; a man of quiet, unassuming manner, steady habits, and very reliable. Mr. Jennings seemed to have inherited some of his taste for real estate from his grandfather, Samuel Jennings, who was a large land holder in his native State. In 1838, Mr. Jennings married Hanna W. Brizse, at Lockport, New York. "