Jacob is latin for James also. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Brenzel" <brenzelmf@adelphia.net> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: RE: STRE: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery >I just re-read your message. Now I understand the confusion since James > and Jacob are the same in German. Don't know whether they are the same. > I don't live too far from there but I don't know when I'll be in that > area again so that I could check it out for you. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: dsam@sampubco.com [mailto:dsam@sampubco.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:57 PM > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: STRE: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery > > Very much applicable since obituary was published in Buffalo News > of one guy who lived and died in Buffalo. > > The map link for town of Bergholtz you provided was not helpful. Exact > which location is correct of the CEMETERY? > > James and Jacob are same in German language, but I must have proof it is > the same cemetery. > > Time to time I will ask about cemeteries that are not in Erie County but > surrounding counties because of burials of Buffalo's deceased. > > David Samuelsen > > Mary wrote: > This is actually in Niagara County, not Erie County. Niagara Road and > Rohr Street intersect in Bergholtz, just north of Niagara Falls > Boulevard. Niagara Road runs between the intersection of NF Blvd and > Walmore Road (the 3 roads intersect at that corner) and Ward Road. > > I don't know about the cemeteries, though. > > Mary > North Tonawanda, NY > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:dsam@sampubco.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:05 PM > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery > > Saint James-Jacobi > Located on the west side of Niagara Road, north of Niagara Falls > Boulevard. Good > condition. > > Rohr Street-Saint James-Saint Jacobi > Located on the south side of Rohr Street. Recorded by D. Rolling. > > David: > Does this help any. > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/niagara/cems/wheat&towanda.html > Don White > > Which one? Or is it same cemetery? The locations as given are in > conflict. > > Maps says Niagara Road is east-west while Rohr Street is north-south > > Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect. > > Can anyone verify and give correct location of both (or is it the same) > cemeteries??? > > David Samuelsen > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

I just re-read your message. Now I understand the confusion since James and Jacob are the same in German. Don't know whether they are the same. I don't live too far from there but I don't know when I'll be in that area again so that I could check it out for you. Mary -----Original Message----- From: dsam@sampubco.com [mailto:dsam@sampubco.com] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:57 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: STRE: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery Very much applicable since obituary was published in Buffalo News of one guy who lived and died in Buffalo. The map link for town of Bergholtz you provided was not helpful. Exact which location is correct of the CEMETERY? James and Jacob are same in German language, but I must have proof it is the same cemetery. Time to time I will ask about cemeteries that are not in Erie County but surrounding counties because of burials of Buffalo's deceased. David Samuelsen Mary wrote: This is actually in Niagara County, not Erie County. Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect in Bergholtz, just north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Niagara Road runs between the intersection of NF Blvd and Walmore Road (the 3 roads intersect at that corner) and Ward Road. I don't know about the cemeteries, though. Mary North Tonawanda, NY -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:dsam@sampubco.com] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:05 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery Saint James-Jacobi Located on the west side of Niagara Road, north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Good condition. Rohr Street-Saint James-Saint Jacobi Located on the south side of Rohr Street. Recorded by D. Rolling. David: Does this help any. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/niagara/cems/wheat&towanda.html Don White Which one? Or is it same cemetery? The locations as given are in conflict. Maps says Niagara Road is east-west while Rohr Street is north-south Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect. Can anyone verify and give correct location of both (or is it the same) cemeteries??? David Samuelsen -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Sorry! As I said, I don't know about the cemetery locations. However, as I said, those 2 streets intersect. Are you looking for the exact location, such as which corner of the intersection? Mary -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:dsam@sampubco.com] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:05 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery Saint James-Jacobi Located on the west side of Niagara Road, north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Good condition. Rohr Street-Saint James-Saint Jacobi Located on the south side of Rohr Street. Recorded by D. Rolling. David: Does this help any. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/niagara/cems/wheat&towanda.html Don White Which one? Or is it same cemetery? The locations as given are in conflict. Maps says Niagara Road is east-west while Rohr Street is north-south Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect. Can anyone verify and give correct location of both (or is it the same) cemeteries??? David Samuelsen ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Very much applicable since obituary was published in Buffalo News of one guy who lived and died in Buffalo. The map link for town of Bergholtz you provided was not helpful. Exact which location is correct of the CEMETERY? James and Jacob are same in German language, but I must have proof it is the same cemetery. Time to time I will ask about cemeteries that are not in Erie County but surrounding counties because of burials of Buffalo's deceased. David Samuelsen Mary wrote: This is actually in Niagara County, not Erie County. Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect in Bergholtz, just north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Niagara Road runs between the intersection of NF Blvd and Walmore Road (the 3 roads intersect at that corner) and Ward Road. I don't know about the cemeteries, though. Mary North Tonawanda, NY -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:dsam@sampubco.com] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:05 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery Saint James-Jacobi Located on the west side of Niagara Road, north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Good condition. Rohr Street-Saint James-Saint Jacobi Located on the south side of Rohr Street. Recorded by D. Rolling. David: Does this help any. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/niagara/cems/wheat&towanda.html Don White Which one? Or is it same cemetery? The locations as given are in conflict. Maps says Niagara Road is east-west while Rohr Street is north-south Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect. Can anyone verify and give correct location of both (or is it the same) cemeteries??? David Samuelsen -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Bergholtz, NY http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=M7tNO.p_0TqT&csz=bergholtz%2C+ny&co untry=us Mary North Tonawanda, NY -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:dsam@sampubco.com] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:05 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery Saint James-Jacobi Located on the west side of Niagara Road, north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Good condition. Rohr Street-Saint James-Saint Jacobi Located on the south side of Rohr Street. Recorded by D. Rolling. David: Does this help any. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/niagara/cems/wheat&towanda.html Don White Which one? Or is it same cemetery? The locations as given are in conflict. Maps says Niagara Road is east-west while Rohr Street is north-south Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect. Can anyone verify and give correct location of both (or is it the same) cemeteries??? David Samuelsen ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

This is actually in Niagara County, not Erie County. Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect in Bergholtz, just north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Niagara Road runs between the intersection of NF Blvd and Walmore Road (the 3 roads intersect at that corner) and Ward Road. I don't know about the cemeteries, though. Mary North Tonawanda, NY -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:dsam@sampubco.com] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:05 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] St James Lutheran Cemetery Saint James-Jacobi Located on the west side of Niagara Road, north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Good condition. Rohr Street-Saint James-Saint Jacobi Located on the south side of Rohr Street. Recorded by D. Rolling. David: Does this help any. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/niagara/cems/wheat&towanda.html Don White Which one? Or is it same cemetery? The locations as given are in conflict. Maps says Niagara Road is east-west while Rohr Street is north-south Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect. Can anyone verify and give correct location of both (or is it the same) cemeteries??? David Samuelsen ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi Listers, Just joined to search for the SEIS (SEIZ) and KLEINDIENST families in Buffalo, Erie. I am interested in Henry KLEINDIENST, coroner for Rochester, Monroe, in the late 19th century-early 20th. His father was Jacob KLEINDIENST and his mother Magdalena ROHRER or ROHR, both from Bavaria. However, Henry had a step brother called Charles F. SEIZ or SEIS. When Henry's mother died she was recorded as Margaret SEIS KLEINDIENST and so I am wondering if Jacob was married twice or if Magdalena and Margaret are the same and was married to a SEIS before a KLEINDIENST. They have a connection with Buffalo, as Charles was born there and others died there. I would be interested in an information about either of these families. Looking forward to any replies. Best wishes, Charles

I think this is the best source of Erie County Town History on the internet. New York Town Histories http://history.rays-place.com/ny/index.htm

I think this person was asking where they came into the US at that time, not where they left from. I am interested in this information also. Amy L. hbic3@juno.com

> Henry and Mary Gottlip Texter came to Amherst from Germany in 1854. Does > any one have an idea of what port most of the German people came into at > that time? Mine came from the Black Forest area, embarked Le Havre, and arrived in October 1854 on the Ontario in NYC. However, Rotterdam, and Hamburg were also big embarkation ports. R

Saint James-Jacobi Located on the west side of Niagara Road, north of Niagara Falls Boulevard. Good condition. Rohr Street-Saint James-Saint Jacobi Located on the south side of Rohr Street. Recorded by D. Rolling. David: Does this help any. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/niagara/cems/wheat&towanda.html Don White Which one? Or is it same cemetery? The locations as given are in conflict. Maps says Niagara Road is east-west while Rohr Street is north-south Niagara Road and Rohr Street intersect. Can anyone verify and give correct location of both (or is it the same) cemeteries??? David Samuelsen

Henry and Mary Gottlip Texter came to Amherst from Germany in 1854. Does any one have an idea of what port most of the German people came into at that time? Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past. Jann Whalen Parks Friendship is the only cement that will ever hold the world together. Woodrow Wilson

Guess someone will have to spend a lot of time researching immigrant ships. http://immigrantships.net/ http://immigrantships.net/bremenproj/year/1860.html

> Does any one have an idea of what port most of the German people came > into at that time? > > Mine came from the Black Forest area, embarked Le Havre, and arrived > in > October 1854 on the Ontario in NYC. > > However, Rotterdam, and Hamburg were also big embarkation ports. > > R many left Bremen; some changed ships in London or Southhampton > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 &targetid=5429 > > >

I"ll hazard a guess and say Port of New York, but needless to say many went to Louisiana, Pennsylvania and Canada. Z On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:46:04 -0500 "Jann Parks" <townefabric@rural-net.com> writes: > Henry and Mary Gottlip Texter came to Amherst from Germany in 1854. > Does any one have an idea of what port most of the German people > came into at that time? > Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past. > Jann Whalen Parks

Thanks all for your help on transcribing my recent question regarding the German Evangelical Bethlehem Congregation at 1184 Genesee St. question (now the Calvary Baptist Church). Does anyone know where the church records now reside? I am seeking records from the late 1800's to the early 1900's. Nancy Hanes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

David: Does this help any. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/niagara/cems/wheat&towanda.html Don White --- W David Samuelsen <dsam@sampubco.com> wrote: > Does anyone know exact where St. James Lutheran > Cemetery is located > (at least in vicinity of Bergholtz-Wheatfield) > > I have this item from newspaper: > St. James Evangelical Church, corner of Niagara Road > and Rohr Street. Burial > will be in St. James Lutheran Cemetery. > > I don't seem to find it on Topozone map at all. > The only visible cemeteries are St. Paul's, St. > Jacob's and Holy Ghost cemeteries. > > Please reply asap > > David Samuelsen, NY TTP state coordinator > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

HI; Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of a Pearl Sternburg .He lived in Buffalo in the late 1800, and was born about 1836 in Germany. He was supposed to be a very prominent businessman, who owned and operated grain elevators. Thanks for any suggestions Betts

If anyone attends this, I'd be very curious to hear back what, if anything, they say about the small Jewish cemetery that is attached at the back of Concordia Cemetery. I know nothing about it and would like to add information about it to the Concordia Cemetery page. Thanks! Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:19:13 -0800 (PST) From: Donna Schwartz <onedue14223@yahoo.com> Subject: Meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Buffalo The history of Buffalo Jewish Cemeteries will be presented by Charlotte Gendler, along with other members of the Cemetery Committee of the Jewish Federation of Greater Buffalo. The program is free and open to all. When: Sunday, March 6th at 2:00 pm Where: Jewish Community Center, Benderson Building, 2640 North Forest Road in Getzville. Mark This Date: April 10, 2005 More Skeletons in the Closet For further information, please call Jane Fischman at 873-6356. Concordia Cemetery Association http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine/concordia/ PO Box 1773 - Amherst, NY 14226; 716-892-2909 (phone only answered by a person on Saturdays, but there is voicemail)

Does anyone know exact where St. James Lutheran Cemetery is located (at least in vicinity of Bergholtz-Wheatfield) I have this item from newspaper: St. James Evangelical Church, corner of Niagara Road and Rohr Street. Burial will be in St. James Lutheran Cemetery. I don't seem to find it on Topozone map at all. The only visible cemeteries are St. Paul's, St. Jacob's and Holy Ghost cemeteries. Please reply asap David Samuelsen, NY TTP state coordinator