Hi, Tried the website but can't get into it - just a message that an error has occured, Best wishes, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:50 AM Subject: [NYERIE] what a wonderful new digital archive.... > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm<http://digitalgallery.n ypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm> > > after you have searched those standard keywords, > think along the lines of migration > and railroads > and harbors > and immigrants > > notice on the first page that they are having volume issues > but i have noticed that the search tool DOES find the information and you can click on view image details but the image itself might not appear this time around... > experiment with add to selections.... > test on how that works and then > go to it.... > > as with the BROOKLYN EAGLE this can be used in many ways.... > across many subjects > not ONLY geography or history but other areas on the left side... > > have fun, continue to visit for surely they will constantly add to the data files.... > > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm<http://digitalgallery.n ypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm>

***I stand corrected... you are right that ILL can be used to borrow reels of microfilm, and some libraries may charge for doing this. I had the impression that the person was expecting ILL to provide copies of the articles, but I may have been mistaken about that. I said what I did because we often get requests like this: "I need a copy of the obituary of my great-grandfather. He died in 1898 in Chicago." We have to explain to them that they first need to work with a Reference Librarian to identify the newspapers from Chicago covering that time period, and then request reels of a specific title--or if they want just a copy of the obit, to either get a citation or specify the exact date. Sorry I wasn't clearer. At 11:02 AM 3/4/2005, you wrote: >>***As a librarian, I can tell you that InterLibrary Loan is for requests >>for specific articles from specific publications... you normally have to >>supply exact dates and pages: >```````````````````` >Maybe we are using an incorrect title for the service? I have used >InterLibrary "Loans" to have reels of micro-filmed newspapers brought in >for me to peruse. There *is* a small rental fee involved, so maybe >InterLibrary Loan is not the correct term. Carol, do you know what this >rental service is called? > >Leslie (Bridges) Kohler > > > >==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

***As a librarian, I can tell you that InterLibrary Loan is for requests for specific articles from specific publications... you normally have to supply exact dates and pages: they don't do research. That's probably why you haven't gotten anything. At 10:13 PM 3/3/2005, you wrote: >My local library can't do interlibrary loan with Buffalo, NY for some >reason. I asked them to get this last fall and am still waiting. Could >someone in >Buffalo do a random act of kindness? > >Captain Sheldon Bradley and ship South America (or South American) went down >in Lake Erie between Buffalo and Vermillion Ohio in October 1843. Supposedly >it was the shipwreck of the year, so it must have been written up in Buffalo >papers. Sheldon was my ggg Grandfather so I would like to get copies of any >articles. Pretty please and thank you! > > >==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Hi Anne, The SEIS and KLEINDIENST families are no relation to me. I was looking for a mysterious possible relative - Fritz GUNTHER - in Rochester and came across Coroner Henry KLEINDIENST. He appeared almost daily in news items from 1888 till his death in 1917. I became fascinated with his career and so started studying. Got more information on him than Fritz, who remains a mystery. Many thanks for looking. I guess the family must around somewhere. Best wishes, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Kruszka" <gen.witch@gmail.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > Oh, I didn't think to look under Maggie. No, didn't find her there either. > Sorry. Don't feel bad, I'm having trouble finding some of mine too!

Hi Ann, Thanks for looking. Maybe they weren't in Buffalo in 1860 - I don't know. As far as I'm aware Margaret had two children - Charles by her first husband - Mr. SEIS - and Libbie by Jacob in 1870. Not sure what happened to Libbie but no further record of her. In 1880 only Jacob, Magaret (Maggie) and Henry are recorded on the Rochester census, so I guess she died. I have been told that after Jacob's death in 1889, Margaret moved back to Buffalo where she was living with Charles in 1910 but I don't have any further details. When she died, she was taken back to Rochester and buried together with Jacob and Louisa (from Jacob's first marriage, I presume) in Mt. Hope Cemetery. Strangely enough SKS couldn't find Jacob KLEINDIENST on the 1860 Census neither. Thanks again. Best wishes, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Kruszka" <gen.witch@gmail.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > Not finding them at all. Sorry. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles" <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> > To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > > > > Hi Anne, > > Margaret was born 13 October 1829 somewhere in Baden, Germany. She is > > buried in Rochester, having died 9 June 1912. But obviously her surname > > wasn't SEIS (SIES) at the time of birth - I have no idea what her maiden > > name was. > > > > Does that help? > > > > Best wishes, > > Charles

Hi Anne, Margaret was born 13 October 1829 somewhere in Baden, Germany. She is buried in Rochester, having died 9 June 1912. But obviously her surname wasn't SEIS (SIES) at the time of birth - I have no idea what her maiden name was. Does that help? Best wishes, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Kruszka" <gen.witch@gmail.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > What year was Margaret born? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles" <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> > To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:43 PM > Subject: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > > > > Hi Lister, > > I am reasonably sure now that a Margaret SEIS or SIES lived in Buffalo, > > Erie, before marrying Jacob KLEINDIENST of Rochester, Monroe. Her son, > > Charles F. SEIS or SIES, was born in about 1852 and, if calculations are > > right, Margaret married Jacob between 1860 and 1869. So there may be a > > family SEIS (SIES) in Buffalo on the 1860 Census - wife Margaret and a son > > Charles, aged about 8. > > > > Would SKS please look this up for me? > > Best wishes, > > Charles

> ***As a librarian, I can tell you that InterLibrary Loan is for requests > for specific articles from specific publications... you normally have to > supply exact dates and pages: ```````````````````` Maybe we are using an incorrect title for the service? I have used InterLibrary "Loans" to have reels of micro-filmed newspapers brought in for me to peruse. There *is* a small rental fee involved, so maybe InterLibrary Loan is not the correct term. Carol, do you know what this rental service is called? Leslie (Bridges) Kohler

Hi Lister, I am reasonably sure now that a Margaret SEIS or SIES lived in Buffalo, Erie, before marrying Jacob KLEINDIENST of Rochester, Monroe. Her son, Charles F. SEIS or SIES, was born in about 1852 and, if calculations are right, Margaret married Jacob between 1860 and 1869. So there may be a family SEIS (SIES) in Buffalo on the 1860 Census - wife Margaret and a son Charles, aged about 8. Would SKS please look this up for me? Best wishes, Charles

In a message dated 3/3/2005 10:14:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, Marr794@aol.com writes: My local library can't do interlibrary loan with Buffalo, NY for some reason. I asked them to get this last fall and am still waiting. Could someone in Buffalo do a random act of kindness? Hi, I'm not in Buffalo so I cannot help you there, but you may want to know that the New York State Public Library in Albany has an ongoing Newspaper Project in which they are filming old NYS Newspapers and making these films available for interlibrary loan. Your library should be able to get them for you. To find the call numbers for the Erie County Films go to: _http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/115.htm_ (http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/115.htm) If your library cannot get the films for you with this information, perhaps the problem lies with them. I hope this helps you, Joe Endicott, NY

If no one comes through, ask your library to borrow Buffalo newspapers on microfilm from the NY State Library. Here's the list of what they lend out through interlibrary loan: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/115.htm Good luck! On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 Marr794@aol.com wrote: > My local library can't do interlibrary loan with Buffalo, NY for some > reason. I asked them to get this last fall and am still waiting. Could someone in > Buffalo do a random act of kindness? > > Captain Sheldon Bradley and ship South America (or South American) went down > in Lake Erie between Buffalo and Vermillion Ohio in October 1843. Supposedly > it was the shipwreck of the year, so it must have been written up in Buffalo > papers. Sheldon was my ggg Grandfather so I would like to get copies of any > articles. Pretty please and thank you! > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- Webmaster: Cynthia Van Ness, MLS -- roots AT bfn DOT org Buffalo Roots: Genealogy & Family History in Buffalo, NY http://www.buffaloresearch.com/roots.html

My local library can't do interlibrary loan with Buffalo, NY for some reason. I asked them to get this last fall and am still waiting. Could someone in Buffalo do a random act of kindness? Captain Sheldon Bradley and ship South America (or South American) went down in Lake Erie between Buffalo and Vermillion Ohio in October 1843. Supposedly it was the shipwreck of the year, so it must have been written up in Buffalo papers. Sheldon was my ggg Grandfather so I would like to get copies of any articles. Pretty please and thank you!

Hi, gang, Forgive the shameless self-promotion, but on Sunday, March 6, I'll be giving a presentation on Women in Buffalo's History at the Buffalo & Erie County Historical Society from 1-2 PM. The talk is free with museum admission. I'll be repeating it at the Buffalo Architecture Center in the Market Arcade Building on Tuesday, March 8, at 12:15 pm. Admission is $5 to the general public; free admission to members of the Landmark Society, Preservation Coalition, Campaign for Buffalo, BECHS, Burchfield-Penney Art Center, Olmsted Conservancy, Martin House Restoration Corp., Graycliff Conservancy. See: http://www.landmark-niagara.org/bac/lsnf.html -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- Webmaster: Cynthia Van Ness, MLS -- roots AT bfn DOT org Buffalo Roots: Genealogy & Family History in Buffalo, NY http://www.buffaloresearch.com/roots.html

Thankfully, once you're within the 716 area code, you need only dial the 7-digit number, but for out-of-towners planning their trips, the area codes will help them call for more info if needed. If anyone's curious, here's an area code map. http://www.nanpa.com/area_code_maps/ac_map_static.html On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Don W wrote: > Jillaine: > Just looked at it for a minute, but I would add area > codes to telephone numbers. Here in Houston we have to > use them to call a neighbor. > Don White > > --- Jillaine Smith <jillainedc@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > When it's snowing outside, what else is there to do, > > but plan a > > spring/summer/fall visit to Buffalo to research > > one's ancestors? (And for > > those of you already in Buffalo, I'm sure you've got > > plenty of shovelling > > to keep you busy...) > > > > A couple of months ago, someone sent me email > > seeking advice for a > > genealogy-related visit to Buffalo. (Because of the > > Buffalo East Side web > > site I maintain, I many people believe I reside in > > Buffalo... I don't; I'm > > in Washington DC). > > > > Anyway, seeking to help this person, I went > > searching for such a web page-- > > certainly there must be something like it. I thought > > Cynthia had prepared > > such a page. But I could not find it. I threw > > together some quick > > suggestions, George Richmond threw in a few more, > > and I compiled the following: > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine/Buffalo/visit.html > > > > It's currently in draft mode, and I would love > > suggestions for making it a > > good check list. I am, of course, open to deleting > > it entirely if such a > > thing exists elsewhere already. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- Jillaine Smith > > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine > > > > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > > <dtrose@cox.net> > > See the Archived Messages at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about > > your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- Webmaster: Cynthia Van Ness, MLS -- roots AT bfn DOT org Buffalo Roots: Genealogy & Family History in Buffalo, NY http://www.buffaloresearch.com/roots.html

I think it's on Walden and not Delevan.

Jillaine, FYI, Looked over your list of things to do in Buffalo etc. You might add that the older immigration/naturalization info is in the basement of the county court building on index cards and also ledgers with same info. Not much info but better than nothing. You can do your own lookups, just ask someone to direct you to the basement. Kevin

i just got in without any problem... your system didnt treat the link below as a duplicate did it.... so tomorrow when their server is not overloaded go scouting... On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 12:07:05 +0900, Charles <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> wrote: > Hi, > Tried the website but can't get into it - just a message that an error has > occured, > > Best wishes, > Charles > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ".... valentine53179" <valentine53179@hotmail.com> > To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:50 AM > Subject: [NYERIE] what a wonderful new digital archive.... > > > > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm<http://digitalgallery.n > ypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm> > > > > after you have searched those standard keywords, > > think along the lines of migration > > and railroads > > and harbors > > and immigrants > > > > notice on the first page that they are having volume issues > > but i have noticed that the search tool DOES find the information and you > can click on view image details but the image itself might not appear this > time around... > > experiment with add to selections.... > > test on how that works and then > > go to it.... > > > > as with the BROOKLYN EAGLE this can be used in many ways.... > > across many subjects > > not ONLY geography or history but other areas on the left side... > > > > have fun, continue to visit for surely they will constantly add to the > data files.... > > > > > http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm<http://digitalgallery.n > ypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm> > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm<http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm> after you have searched those standard keywords, think along the lines of migration and railroads and harbors and immigrants notice on the first page that they are having volume issues but i have noticed that the search tool DOES find the information and you can click on view image details but the image itself might not appear this time around... experiment with add to selections.... test on how that works and then go to it.... as with the BROOKLYN EAGLE this can be used in many ways.... across many subjects not ONLY geography or history but other areas on the left side... have fun, continue to visit for surely they will constantly add to the data files.... http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm<http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm>

You probably already know this but have you viewed the LDS Microfilm titled: "Beth Jacob Cemetary [sic] inscriptions"? Authors Clement, Jane (Main Author) Bruckheimer, Sally (Marion), 1946- (Added Author) Beth Jacob Cemetery (Buffalo, New York) (Added Author) Doat Street Cemetery (Buffalo, New York) (Added Author) Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jillaine Smith" <jillainedc@yahoo.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [NYERIE] Re: Meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Buffalo > > If anyone attends this, I'd be very curious to hear back what, if > anything, they say about the small Jewish cemetery that is attached at the > back of Concordia Cemetery. I know nothing about it and would like to add > information about it to the Concordia Cemetery page. > > Thanks! > > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:19:13 -0800 (PST) > From: Donna Schwartz <onedue14223@yahoo.com> > Subject: Meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Buffalo > > The history of Buffalo Jewish Cemeteries will be > presented by Charlotte Gendler, along with other > members of the Cemetery Committee of the Jewish > Federation of Greater Buffalo. The program is free > and open to all. > > When: Sunday, March 6th at 2:00 pm > Where: Jewish Community Center, Benderson Building, > 2640 North Forest Road in Getzville. > > Mark This Date: > April 10, 2005 > More Skeletons in the Closet > > For further information, please call Jane Fischman at > 873-6356. > > > Concordia Cemetery Association > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine/concordia/ > PO Box 1773 - Amherst, NY 14226; 716-892-2909 > (phone only answered by a person on Saturdays, but there is voicemail) > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Oh, I didn't think to look under Maggie. No, didn't find her there either. Sorry. Don't feel bad, I'm having trouble finding some of mine too! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > Hi Ann, > Thanks for looking. Maybe they weren't in Buffalo in 1860 - I don't know. > > As far as I'm aware Margaret had two children - Charles by her first > husband - Mr. SEIS - and Libbie by Jacob in 1870. Not sure what happened > to > Libbie but no further record of her. In 1880 only Jacob, Magaret (Maggie) > and Henry are recorded on the Rochester census, so I guess she died. I > have > been told that after Jacob's death in 1889, Margaret moved back to Buffalo > where she was living with Charles in 1910 but I don't have any further > details. When she died, she was taken back to Rochester and buried > together > with Jacob and Louisa (from Jacob's first marriage, I presume) in Mt. Hope > Cemetery. > > Strangely enough SKS couldn't find Jacob KLEINDIENST on the 1860 Census > neither. > > Thanks again. > Best wishes, > Charles > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Kruszka" <gen.witch@gmail.com> > To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:37 AM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > > >> Not finding them at all. Sorry. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles" <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> >> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please >> >> >> > Hi Anne, >> > Margaret was born 13 October 1829 somewhere in Baden, Germany. She is >> > buried in Rochester, having died 9 June 1912. But obviously her >> > surname >> > wasn't SEIS (SIES) at the time of birth - I have no idea what her >> > maiden >> > name was. >> > >> > Does that help? >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > Charles > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Not finding them at all. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > Hi Anne, > Margaret was born 13 October 1829 somewhere in Baden, Germany. She is > buried in Rochester, having died 9 June 1912. But obviously her surname > wasn't SEIS (SIES) at the time of birth - I have no idea what her maiden > name was. > > Does that help? > > Best wishes, > Charles > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Kruszka" <gen.witch@gmail.com> > To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please > > >> What year was Margaret born? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles" <evans_gunther@ybb.ne.jp> >> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:43 PM >> Subject: [NYERIE] 1860 Census look up, please >> >> >> > Hi Lister, >> > I am reasonably sure now that a Margaret SEIS or SIES lived in Buffalo, >> > Erie, before marrying Jacob KLEINDIENST of Rochester, Monroe. Her son, >> > Charles F. SEIS or SIES, was born in about 1852 and, if calculations >> > are >> > right, Margaret married Jacob between 1860 and 1869. So there may be a >> > family SEIS (SIES) in Buffalo on the 1860 Census - wife Margaret and a > son >> > Charles, aged about 8. >> > >> > Would SKS please look this up for me? >> > Best wishes, >> > Charles > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >