Okay... Zona has her Pluto; I have my Leonhard... Leonhard Schmidt is my brick wall (as well as my gr-gr-grandfather). I'd like to hook up with other researchers who are researching early Schmidts of Buffalo. Specifically, I'm looking for those of you who are researching Schmidts who settled in Buffalo by 1848. I very much want to find a family to link my Leonhard to. I am hoping he is the brother of one of your ancestors/ancestresses. His first recorded appearance in Buffalo (that I've found so far) is his 21 Nov 1848 marriage to Elisabetha Betz at St. Paul/St. Marks German United Evangelical Church. (Elisabetha I have down pat...) According to his death record, he was born 1 Feb 1818 in "Baden". Clues that may shed light on his family include: * one Friederich Schmidt deeds land in Buffalo in the 1840s to Leonhard's father-in-law, (Joh.) Henry Betz, Sr. [ Index of Deeds, Erie County, NY, p. 703] * In 1851, Leonhard Schmidt names his first son "Philipp Leonhard Schmidt" quite possibly (based on naming conventions) after his father (although the godparent to Philipp Leonhard Schmidt is Philipp Diener or Doerner, Elisabetha's brother-in-law). * Maria Schmidt is godparent to his Leonhard's daughter Maria in 1859. Might she be a sister or sister-in-law? * Leonhard's children's names (born between 1849 and 1858) are: Catharina, Philipp Leonhard, Phillippine, Heinrich, Carl and Maria. All but Carl and Maria and Leonhard are also given names that appear in his wife's family. Schmidt researchers in Buffalo? What say you? Thanks! -- Jillaine http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine

Thank you for your suggestion, Sara. I called the cemetery and it worked! My grandfather who I never knew actually died on my birthday! (1 st grandchild!)...Donna -----Original Message----- From: Sara Burkholder <sburkholder@gci.net> Sent: Mar 10, 2005 11:39 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Am I doing this properly? I concur with Mary. I have gone to them in person and via long distance telephone and the office staff at Mt.Olivet always seems very condescending. I realize that they are busy. Please do not go on Friday or Monday those days seem to be especially stressful for them. Do you know by chance what church these folks attended? In their records you may find an exact date of death. Have you tried the archives of the Buffalo News? Is there someone in the area who goes to the library regularly and would check the microfilmed newspaper records for June of 1979? You may have to hire a researcher. For that one search it would not be too expensive. Good Luck!!! Sara Burkholder ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Brenzel" <brenzelmf@adelphia.net> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: RE: [NYERIE] Am I doing this properly? > I would contact the cemetery directly to get the exact date before > looking for the obituary unless someone know of an obituary index. > Although I got records from them long ago and in person, they were very > nice about looking up information in their records for me. > > Mount Olivet Cemetery > 4000 Elmwood Avenue > Kenmore, New York 14217 > Phone - (716) 873-6500 > Fax - (716) 873-3247 > > Mary > North Tonawanda, NY > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniels [mailto:tonawandadonna@peoplepc.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:33 AM > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYERIE] Am I doing this properly? > > > I would like to find a death notice or obituary for Sidney Goodrich > who died in June 1979 and was buried at Mt. Olivet in Erie County. Can > anyone help me? > Thank you, Donna > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Hi, I'm Donna (just getting home from the weekend and trying to catch up). I must thank you again now that I realize that it was YOU who suggested I call the cemetery in the first place! By the way, they were very nice and willing to help. They even checked to see if HIS father was in there for me!. Any ideas on where to go from here for an obit ? Thanks again!...Donna -----Original Message----- From: "M. Brenzel" <brenzelmf@adelphia.net> Sent: Mar 10, 2005 10:48 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NYERIE] Am I doing this properly? I would contact the cemetery directly to get the exact date before looking for the obituary unless someone know of an obituary index. Although I got records from them long ago and in person, they were very nice about looking up information in their records for me. Mount Olivet Cemetery 4000 Elmwood Avenue Kenmore, New York 14217 Phone - (716) 873-6500 Fax - (716) 873-3247 Mary North Tonawanda, NY -----Original Message----- From: Daniels [mailto:tonawandadonna@peoplepc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:33 AM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] Am I doing this properly? I would like to find a death notice or obituary for Sidney Goodrich who died in June 1979 and was buried at Mt. Olivet in Erie County. Can anyone help me? Thank you, Donna ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Oooh. I like that - Archives for Dummies. I'll have to ask my cuz the State of Michigan Archivist about that! <G> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Van Ness" <bettybarcode@yahoo.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:48 PM Subject: [NYERIE] Archives for Dummies > Hi, gang, > > I don't think anyone's written "Archives for Dummies" yet, but > we have an excellent local alternative online. > > Many of you belong to organizations with a local history or > genealogical mission. Or you belong to groups that are *making* > local history as we speak. > > If so, there's a terrific online booklet that offers guidance > about why and how to save the records of your group's > activities. Your organization's records might solve a > genealogical puzzle for a future researcher. > > See: > > http://www.wnylrc.org/dhp/Booklets/DocumentingOrgs/organizations.htm > Documenting Community Organizations > > Many thanks to Heidi Bamford at the Western NY Library Resource > Council for digitizing this publication. > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > www.buffaloresearch.com > "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: > So much has been destroyed > I have to cast my lot with those > who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary > power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi, gang, I don't think anyone's written "Archives for Dummies" yet, but we have an excellent local alternative online. Many of you belong to organizations with a local history or genealogical mission. Or you belong to groups that are *making* local history as we speak. If so, there's a terrific online booklet that offers guidance about why and how to save the records of your group's activities. Your organization's records might solve a genealogical puzzle for a future researcher. See: http://www.wnylrc.org/dhp/Booklets/DocumentingOrgs/organizations.htm Documenting Community Organizations Many thanks to Heidi Bamford at the Western NY Library Resource Council for digitizing this publication. *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

David, The Social Security Death Index (http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi) lists a Margaret J. Wall, b. 24 Jun 1906, d. 7 Jan 1992, SS# issued in New York, so it sounds like you have the correct death date, assuming this is her. Juliann -----Original Message----- From: David Cornell [mailto:djcmgf@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:30 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Obit lookup request - Margaret J Wall > David: > Is it possible that you have the date wrong? I searched the Buffalo > News for 7 Jan 1992 through 12 Jan 1992 and did not find a listing > for Margaret Wall. Sorry. > George George: I am fairly certain that the date is right. It's possible that she left the Buffalo area before she died or that the family decided not to have a death notice for some reason. Thank you very much for looking for it. David -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/2005

I would contact the cemetery directly to get the exact date before looking for the obituary unless someone know of an obituary index. Although I got records from them long ago and in person, they were very nice about looking up information in their records for me. Mount Olivet Cemetery 4000 Elmwood Avenue Kenmore, New York 14217 Phone - (716) 873-6500 Fax - (716) 873-3247 Mary North Tonawanda, NY -----Original Message----- From: Daniels [mailto:tonawandadonna@peoplepc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:33 AM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] Am I doing this properly? I would like to find a death notice or obituary for Sidney Goodrich who died in June 1979 and was buried at Mt. Olivet in Erie County. Can anyone help me? Thank you, Donna ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

I concur with Mary. I have gone to them in person and via long distance telephone and the office staff at Mt.Olivet always seems very condescending. I realize that they are busy. Please do not go on Friday or Monday those days seem to be especially stressful for them. Do you know by chance what church these folks attended? In their records you may find an exact date of death. Have you tried the archives of the Buffalo News? Is there someone in the area who goes to the library regularly and would check the microfilmed newspaper records for June of 1979? You may have to hire a researcher. For that one search it would not be too expensive. Good Luck!!! Sara Burkholder ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Brenzel" <brenzelmf@adelphia.net> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: RE: [NYERIE] Am I doing this properly? > I would contact the cemetery directly to get the exact date before > looking for the obituary unless someone know of an obituary index. > Although I got records from them long ago and in person, they were very > nice about looking up information in their records for me. > > Mount Olivet Cemetery > 4000 Elmwood Avenue > Kenmore, New York 14217 > Phone - (716) 873-6500 > Fax - (716) 873-3247 > > Mary > North Tonawanda, NY > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniels [mailto:tonawandadonna@peoplepc.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:33 AM > To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYERIE] Am I doing this properly? > > > I would like to find a death notice or obituary for Sidney Goodrich > who died in June 1979 and was buried at Mt. Olivet in Erie County. Can > anyone help me? > Thank you, Donna > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi, gang, Just wanted to let you know that I'll be contributing to NYERIE out of my Yahoo email account from now on. In short, Buffalo Freenet (bfn.org) discontinued Telnet access to PINE email, which I really liked for being simple, fast-loading, virus-proof, and text-only (no unnecessary or icky graphics). Boy, they don't make email like they used to. :) If any of you have my old roots@bfn.org address in your address books, please delete it. Thanks a bunch! Cynthia Webmaster, Buffalo Roots: Genealogy & Family History in Buffalo, NY http://www.buffaloresearch.com/roots.html *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

to go online at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/thisisit.htm 014593-98 (Waterloo Co) Karl HEINRICH 43, carpenter, Buffalo N.Y., Berlin, s/o Stephen HEINRICH & Ida WOLF married Catherine SCHALLHORN, 28, Berlin, Berlin, d/o Karl SCHALLHORN & Auguste BADKE, witn: Frederick KREINER & Christiana MAI both of Berlin, 7 August 1898 in Berlin. GAIL in Ontario, CAN -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/05

I would like to find a death notice or obituary for Sidney Goodrich who died in June 1979 and was buried at Mt. Olivet in Erie County. Can anyone help me? Thank you, Donna ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

> David: > Is it possible that you have the date wrong? I searched the Buffalo > News for 7 Jan 1992 through 12 Jan 1992 and did not find a listing > for Margaret Wall. Sorry. > George George: I am fairly certain that the date is right. It's possible that she left the Buffalo area before she died or that the family decided not to have a death notice for some reason. Thank you very much for looking for it. David

I am searching for the marriage of my Swedish great uncle. I have him living with his father in the 1900 census for Buffalo but didn't find him in the 1905 census. By 1910 the family was living in Cleveland, Ohio. I have reason to believe that Hans Eric Hansson born 1880 in Sweden whose name was anglicized to ''Edward Hugo Hanson'' married in Buffalo prior to 1905. Are there CD's that one can information from or other sources to help me? Sincerely GAIL in Ontario, Can -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/05

>I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could look in the Buffalo >newspapers for the death notice of MARGARET J WALL, >who died 7 January 1992. David: Is it possible that you have the date wrong? I searched the Buffalo News for 7 Jan 1992 through 12 Jan 1992 and did not find a listing for Margaret Wall. Sorry. George

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I have paid $10.00 for birth and death certificates, as recent as January. Buffalo City Hall Records Dept. does not take personal checks by mail, only money orders. And they always request a copy of driver's license with it and as stated in one fo the posts, your relationship to the indivdual. My cousin goes in person several times a year and pays cash, no ID required. Laurieg The Land of Oz, is on the horizon..... The Emerald City will beckon you! --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web

Wow, it really went up as I paid $10 each about 3 years ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy L. Lathrop" <hbic3@juno.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Cost of Death Certificate > The site is NOT well worded(maybe on purpose). > > The cost to SEARCH, if and ONLY if you do NOT have an EXACT date is as > below and includes the cost of the uncertified copy. If you have a Year, > but not a date or month, you are subject only to the 1-3 years search > cost. > I don't know what the charge is if you have a year and a month but not a > date. Probably no more than just the cost of the copy. The cost is not > according to how long ago they died, but how many years of records the > clerk > has to search. > > 1 - 3 years $ 22.00 > 4 - 10 years $ 42.00 > 11 - 20 years $ 62.00 > 21 - 30 years $ 82.00 > 31 - 40 years $102.00 > 41 - 50 years $122.00 > 51 - 60 years $142.00 > 61 - 70 years $162.00 > If you have an EXACT date, the uncertified copy will cost, and I may be > outdated on this so don't quote me, to my memory, $12 dollars. > When contacting them, you must state that it is for genealogical purposes, > and what relation you are to the person you are searching. You may have > to > send a copy of your drivers license if you are sending for this info by > mail > I've always just gone down town, so I'm not sure what they want when > it's > requested in writing. > Good luck in your search. > Amy > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Is this at Buffalo City Hall Records Dept? Zona On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 01:37:53 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) "Amy L. Lathrop" hbic3@juno.com writes: > The site is NOT well worded(maybe on purpose). > > The cost to SEARCH, if and ONLY if you do NOT have an EXACT date > is as > below and includes the cost of the uncertified copy. If you have a > Year, > but not a date or month, you are subject only to the 1-3 years > search cost. > I don't know what the charge is if you have a year and a month but > not a > date. Probably no more than just the cost of the copy. The cost is > not > according to how long ago they died, but how many years of records > the clerk > has to search. > > 1 - 3 years $ 22.00 > 4 - 10 years $ 42.00 > 11 - 20 years $ 62.00 > 21 - 30 years $ 82.00 > 31 - 40 years $102.00 > 41 - 50 years $122.00 > 51 - 60 years $142.00 > 61 - 70 years $162.00 > If you have an EXACT date, the uncertified copy will cost, and I may be > outdated on this so don't quote me, to my memory, $12 dollars. > When contacting them, you must state that it is for genealogical purposes, > and what relation you are to the person you are searching. You may have to > send a copy of your drivers license if you are sending for this info by mail > I've always just gone down town, so I'm not sure what they want > when it's requested in writing.

The site is NOT well worded(maybe on purpose). The cost to SEARCH, if and ONLY if you do NOT have an EXACT date is as below and includes the cost of the uncertified copy. If you have a Year, but not a date or month, you are subject only to the 1-3 years search cost. I don't know what the charge is if you have a year and a month but not a date. Probably no more than just the cost of the copy. The cost is not according to how long ago they died, but how many years of records the clerk has to search. 1 - 3 years $ 22.00 4 - 10 years $ 42.00 11 - 20 years $ 62.00 21 - 30 years $ 82.00 31 - 40 years $102.00 41 - 50 years $122.00 51 - 60 years $142.00 61 - 70 years $162.00 If you have an EXACT date, the uncertified copy will cost, and I may be outdated on this so don't quote me, to my memory, $12 dollars. When contacting them, you must state that it is for genealogical purposes, and what relation you are to the person you are searching. You may have to send a copy of your drivers license if you are sending for this info by mail I've always just gone down town, so I'm not sure what they want when it's requested in writing. Good luck in your search. Amy

No, there has to be a mistake, a typo or something. I'm not sure of the exact cost.... But I was in to for my 3rd great grandfather's who died sometime between 1893 and 1900. I did not have an exact date or year. The cost, which included the charge for the 7 year search and the charge for copy of the death certificate was $42 total. Absolutely not would it cost 100 and sum dollars, unless there were a lot of years to search, and I don't know if they will search at all, if you can't give them a time frame.