Hi Zon The people I am looking for are ANTON GATTIE & WALBURGAR GATTIE. I found them in the 1869 city directory and all it has for the address is Delevan Ave. I thought if I had the ward no. I could maybe find them on the 1870 census. Thanks Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] WARD NUMBER > Carol Give me the name of the person who is on the census. I'll get the > census for the person and perhaps the Ward # appears on the census. > Zon > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:29:13 -0800 "Jack Giannelli" <louis@velocity.net> > writes: >> Could someone help me? I am trying to find out what Ward DELEVAN AVE. >> in Buffalo was in on the 1870 Census. >> Thank You >> Carol Giannelli > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005

>Could someone help me? I am trying to find out what Ward DELEVAN AVE. in >Buffalo was in on the 1870 Census. >Thank You >Carol Giannelli Carol, Delevan is a very long street, and passes through many wards. You have to have a street number to narrow it down. George

Scroll down for a ward map that includes that year; http://www.buffaloresearch.com/maps.html Hope this helps! --- Jack Giannelli <louis@velocity.net> wrote: > Could someone help me? I am trying to find out what Ward > DELEVAN AVE. in > Buffalo was in on the 1870 Census. > Thank You > Carol Giannelli > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: > 3/2/05 > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

>Maybe we could get volunteers from the Erie listers; it'd take years. >Maybe we could request LDS FHC to start the project. >Z You don't realize the immense scope of such an operation. >On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:29:24 -0800 (PST) Cynthia Van Ness ><bettybarcode@yahoo.com> writes: >> Nope, no printed index. There aren't too many volunteers who >> are eager to transcribe over 325,000 names (estimated county >> population at that time) from film. So it's up to a business >> like Ancestry to decide there's a profit to be made by doing it. >> >> --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: >> > > There's also the 1892 census of Erie County -- Here are the >> > numbers to order microfilm for that: >> > > Buffalo, wards 1-4, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film >> > > 825692 Item 2 >> > > Buffalo, wards 5-12, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film >> > > 825693 Buffalo, wards 13-21, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film >> > > 825694 Buffalo, wards 22-25, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film >> > > 825695 Item 1 >> > > > > Has this film been transcribed and will it ever be available online? This census was organized by wards and election districts. To assist in finding a family, the FHC on Maple Road in Amherst has prepared a book relating street addresses in Buffalo to ward and district numbers. So you look up the family in the city directory to get the street address, then find the ward and district. You then have only a dozen or so census pages to scan to find your family. A few of the census takers were especially helpful. They wrote the street address on a line ahead of the list of those who lived there. George (whose grandfather successfully evaded the above procedure).

Could someone help me? I am trying to find out what Ward DELEVAN AVE. in Buffalo was in on the 1870 Census. Thank You Carol Giannelli -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/05

I think that there are plenty of other projects scrapbooks, early obit indices, images and other such things that could be worked on instead of a census which we can read at our own leisure... I suspect that there are many items sitting in envelopes and boxes that sit there because there are not enough volunteers to do the job... and if you have not tried to do such an index, I do think that it would be a good exercise for you.... finding YOUR person on a page where you are EXPECTING to find the NAME is vastly different than reading and writing whatever you find.... a simple all name index of a scrapbook of typed documents could take weeks or months of a person's time.... and I do mean READ the census pages at your own leisure, not merely use an index... the older the census, the more chance you will find OTHER family members as part of the READ.... I personally think that the total dependency on an INDEX which is created by people reading a document that is VERY hard TO READ in the best of environments is NOT a good thing... have you checked the gen web to see if there are any of the townships read or if they are looking for a second reader/transcriber... if not, then to the usgenweb project with ya.... and see what is in the works there... ----- Original Message ----- From: zona.himmelsbach@juno.com<mailto:zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] 1892 Census of Erie County Hi George! You are right I 'don't realize the immense scope of such an operation' . Still hopeful that it happens soon. Z On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:36:48 -0500 George Richmond <grichmon@localnet.com<mailto:grichmon@localnet.com>> writes: > >Maybe we could get volunteers from the Erie listers; it'd take > years. > >Maybe we could request LDS FHC to start the project. > >Z > > You don't realize the immense scope of such an operation. > > >On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:29:24 -0800 (PST) Cynthia Van Ness > ><bettybarcode@yahoo.com<mailto:bettybarcode@yahoo.com>> writes: > >> Nope, no printed index. There aren't too many volunteers who > >> are eager to transcribe over 325,000 names (estimated county > >> population at that time) from film. So it's up to a business > >> like Ancestry to decide there's a profit to be made by doing > it. > >> > >> --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com<mailto:zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> wrote: > >> > > There's also the 1892 census of Erie County -- Here are the > >> > numbers to order microfilm for that: > >> > > Buffalo, wards 1-4, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > >> > > 825692 Item 2 > >> > > Buffalo, wards 5-12, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > >> > > 825693 Buffalo, wards 13-21, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > >> > > 825694 Buffalo, wards 22-25, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > >> > > 825695 Item 1 > >> > > > > > Has this film been transcribed and will it ever be available > online? > > This census was organized by wards and election districts. To assist > > in finding a family, the FHC on Maple Road in Amherst has prepared a > > book relating street addresses in Buffalo to ward and district > numbers. So you look up the family in the city directory to get the > > street address, then find the ward and district. You then have only > a > dozen or so census pages to scan to find your family. > > A few of the census takers were especially helpful. They wrote the > street address on a line ahead of the list of those who lived > there. > > George > (whose grandfather successfully evaded the above procedure). > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net<mailto:dtrose@cox.net>> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx> > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net<mailto:dtrose@cox.net>> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

more marriages - to go online at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/thisisit.htm 002682-90 (Dufferin Co), Archibald McDOUGALL, 28, farmer, Ont, Erie Co. Wellington, s/o Duncan McDOUGALL & Margaret McKECHIE, married Mary Ellen ALLEN, 21, Ont, Amaranth, d/o Thos ALLEN & Elizabeth MADILL, witn: Mrs. M. CLILLAND of Shelburne & Miss Ellen STOARKHOUSE of Mulmer, 15 October 1890 at Shelburne -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/05

Carol Give me the name of the person who is on the census. I'll get the census for the person and perhaps the Ward # appears on the census. Zon On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:29:13 -0800 "Jack Giannelli" <louis@velocity.net> writes: > Could someone help me? I am trying to find out what Ward DELEVAN AVE. > in Buffalo was in on the 1870 Census. > Thank You > Carol Giannelli

Hi George! You are right I 'don't realize the immense scope of such an operation' . Still hopeful that it happens soon. Z On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:36:48 -0500 George Richmond <grichmon@localnet.com> writes: > >Maybe we could get volunteers from the Erie listers; it'd take > years. > >Maybe we could request LDS FHC to start the project. > >Z > > You don't realize the immense scope of such an operation. > > >On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:29:24 -0800 (PST) Cynthia Van Ness > ><bettybarcode@yahoo.com> writes: > >> Nope, no printed index. There aren't too many volunteers who > >> are eager to transcribe over 325,000 names (estimated county > >> population at that time) from film. So it's up to a business > >> like Ancestry to decide there's a profit to be made by doing > it. > >> > >> --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: > >> > > There's also the 1892 census of Erie County -- Here are the > >> > numbers to order microfilm for that: > >> > > Buffalo, wards 1-4, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > >> > > 825692 Item 2 > >> > > Buffalo, wards 5-12, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > >> > > 825693 Buffalo, wards 13-21, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > >> > > 825694 Buffalo, wards 22-25, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > >> > > 825695 Item 1 > >> > > > > > Has this film been transcribed and will it ever be available > online? > > This census was organized by wards and election districts. To assist > > in finding a family, the FHC on Maple Road in Amherst has prepared a > > book relating street addresses in Buffalo to ward and district > numbers. So you look up the family in the city directory to get the > > street address, then find the ward and district. You then have only > a > dozen or so census pages to scan to find your family. > > A few of the census takers were especially helpful. They wrote the > street address on a line ahead of the list of those who lived > there. > > George > (whose grandfather successfully evaded the above procedure). > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Last week, I had two of these films in to read and for those of you interested in the possibilities of the 1892 State Census I''ve uploaded a scan of a copy of a page at: http://www.hollytimm.com/newyork/1892NYstatecensus.jpg This census two column format for enumeration was hard to scan to start with. The image shown is probably about average in ink intensity with a good few much lighter. It's much easier to search of course if you have an idea what ward (and district of that ward) they were in. I found nothing on my families on the first two reels but will proceed with the remaining films after a trip to Maine the next two weeks. http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/genealogy/nyscens.htm shows what state census schedules exist for which counties. Dick Halsey's page at http://www.frontiernet.net/~halsey1/ny/1892.htm sums it up by stating "This census was a giant step backwards. It is very difficult to tell where each family begins and there are no relationships given, etc." His page gives the questions asked and it wasn't many. At 06:29 PM 3/19/2005 -0800, Cynthia Van Ness wrote: >Nope, no printed index. There aren't too many volunteers who >are eager to transcribe over 325,000 names (estimated county >population at that time) from film. So it's up to a business >like Ancestry to decide there's a profit to be made by doing it. > >--- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: > > > There's also the 1892 census of Erie County -- Here are the > > numbers > > > to order > > > microfilm for that: > > > Buffalo, wards 1-4, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > > 825692 Item 2 > > > Buffalo, wards 5-12, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > > 825693 Buffalo, wards 13-21, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > > 825694 Buffalo, wards 22-25, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > > 825695 Item 1 > > > > Has this film been transcribed and will it ever be available > > online? > > Zona > > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > > family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > > months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > >*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* >Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com >www.buffaloresearch.com > "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: > So much has been destroyed > I have to cast my lot with those > who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary > power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich > > >==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Maybe we could get volunteers from the Erie listers; it'd take years. Maybe we could request LDS FHC to start the project. Z On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:29:24 -0800 (PST) Cynthia Van Ness <bettybarcode@yahoo.com> writes: > Nope, no printed index. There aren't too many volunteers who > are eager to transcribe over 325,000 names (estimated county > population at that time) from film. So it's up to a business > like Ancestry to decide there's a profit to be made by doing it. > > --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: > > > There's also the 1892 census of Erie County -- Here are the > > numbers to order microfilm for that: > > > Buffalo, wards 1-4, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > > 825692 Item 2 > > > Buffalo, wards 5-12, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > > 825693 Buffalo, wards 13-21, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > > 825694 Buffalo, wards 22-25, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > > 825695 Item 1 > > > > Has this film been transcribed and will it ever be available online?

Nope, no printed index. There aren't too many volunteers who are eager to transcribe over 325,000 names (estimated county population at that time) from film. So it's up to a business like Ancestry to decide there's a profit to be made by doing it. --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: > > There's also the 1892 census of Erie County -- Here are the > numbers > > to order > > microfilm for that: > > Buffalo, wards 1-4, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > 825692 Item 2 > > Buffalo, wards 5-12, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > 825693 Buffalo, wards 13-21, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > 825694 Buffalo, wards 22-25, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > > 825695 Item 1 > > Has this film been transcribed and will it ever be available > online? > Zona > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

> There's also the 1892 census of Erie County -- Here are the numbers > to order > microfilm for that: > Buffalo, wards 1-4, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > 825692 Item 2 > Buffalo, wards 5-12, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > 825693 Buffalo, wards 13-21, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > 825694 Buffalo, wards 22-25, 1892 FHL US/CAN Film > 825695 Item 1 Has this film been transcribed and will it ever be available online? Zona

Just in time for St. Patrick's day, Boston College has announced it's > putting online the "Missing Friends" column through which Irish immigrants > in Boston tried to find relatives and friends they'd lost track of. > > This is potentially an incredibly useful resource for those of us > searching for *our* relatives. It previously was available only as an > eight-volume collection of books. > > The database is at <infowanted.bc.edu> > > There's a long article about the ads and the database in today's Boston > Globe: > <http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2005/03/17/the_irish_immigrant_past_gets_tie_to_today/> > > --

Andrew age at last birthday 48 in 1930 Census. Age at first marriage: 28 for both Andrew and Ella All in family are born in NYS. Andrew was storekeeper at Hospital. (Which hospital?) Buffalo, Erie County District 257 owned home at 68 Briggs Street. house valued at $8000. owned a radio. Could you get info on the property from the county assessor's office? What religion were they? protestant, catholic?? What is nearest church theymay have attended? Zona

Have you posted to Harris message board? What city did you find them in in 1930? What year were they "lodger" 's? Have you researched their children? Zona Himmelsbach On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:10:45 -0600 "hello" <dmiller471@houston.rr.com> writes: > Hello, > > I'm trying very hard to find info on ancestors of "Andrew Harris and > his wife Petronella [Ella]"....I have next to nothing on them and > would very much appreciate someones help as I no nothing of > N.Y....PLEASE? > > Below is what little info I have.... > > name; ANDREW V HARRIS > born; 1878-1882 [in N.Y.] > died;? > Married; PETRONELLA [Ella] ARGUS > > CHILDREN: > Paul, b; 1910 > Lucille, b; 1912 > James,b; abt 1913 > Joan, b; 1922 > > I found an Andrew Harris in the 1900 who I think is mine, he's > unmarried in the home of parents home "Peter & Catherine > Harris"....[I'm guessing at this as I don't know his parents > names]... > The 1910 and 1930 Fed census in Erie Co. N.Y. lists Andrew Harris > and wife Ella with their children........ > > Other than my limited info above, I do know that Andrews father is > from Ireland...[not sure about his mother]...... > Sorry to say that's all the info I have...I know it's not much but > maybe someone can help....I hope....PLZ?

Hello, I'm trying very hard to find info on ancestors of "Andrew Harris and his wife Petronella [Ella]"....I have next to nothing on them and would very much appreciate someones help as I no nothing of N.Y....PLEASE? Below is what little info I have.... name; ANDREW V HARRIS born; 1878-1882 [in N.Y.] died;? Married; PETRONELLA [Ella] ARGUS CHILDREN: Paul, b; 1910 Lucille, b; 1912 James,b; abt 1913 Joan, b; 1922 I found an Andrew Harris in the 1900 who I think is mine, he's unmarried in the home of parents home "Peter & Catherine Harris"....[I'm guessing at this as I don't know his parents names]... The 1910 and 1930 Fed census in Erie Co. N.Y. lists Andrew Harris and wife Ella with their children........ Other than my limited info above, I do know that Andrews father is from Ireland...[not sure about his mother]...... Sorry to say that's all the info I have...I know it's not much but maybe someone can help....I hope....PLZ? regards, L Houston, Tx.

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Am looking for the two wives of Martin Banaszak, born in Poland & settled in Buffalo around 1880. The 2nd wife was named Josephine. He apparently married twice & had 18 children, the youngest of whom was named Rose born around 1900. Would love the names of the children & where Martin & his wives are buried.

016905-01 (Waterloo Co) John LOWE, 47, agent, Seaforth Buffalo N.Y., widower, s/o George & Jane married Mary MUSSELMAN, 38, house servant, Woolwich Twp, Buffalo N.Y., d/o David & Magdalena, witn: Amos & Mabel MUSSELMAN both of Berlin, 2 May 1901 in Berlin. 016909-01 (Waterloo Co) Lawson John WINN, 30, druggist, Canada, New York, s/o Stephen WINN & Elizabeth HAWK married Mamie M. SMUCK, 23, Canada, Berlin, d/o Nathaniel SMUCK & Nora HUBER, witn: Charles O'DONALD of Waterloo & J.T. HUBER of Doon, 11 June 1901 in Berlin. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/05