Jan, When this happened to me (someone copied my web pages verbatim), I sent a polite but clear email requesting the offending pages be taken down. That worked for me. So you might give that a try first before resorting to lawyers, and maybe you'll have the same result. Don't expect an apology though. I didn't get any written reply, polite or otherwise, from the fellow. The pages just quietly disappeared a couple days later. Good luck. --- Brian J. Smith Poway, California http://members.cox.net/smithgen -----Original Message----- From: Logic [mailto:logic@buffnet.net] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:15 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] Copyright Help? Hi Gang As Most Of You Know I Have A Website Containing My Database http://www.buffnet.net/~logic/ Select Death Notices 1880 - 2004 While Googling Around I Wandered Into This Site http://www.obits.cc/obit/569.html And Found MY List Of Death Notices, Each Name Linking Not Back To My Page But To http://www.obits.cc/ On That Page A Paragraph I Am Upset With Is: "There are three kinds of supporters of this site; personal, corporate, and genealogical history groups or affiliates. All groups may have additional sites that may duplicate information found here." This Is MY Work....I Didn't Duplicate Anything...They Copied My Work!! There Is No Doubt About This Since I Decided To List The Surnames For Females By Any/ALL ie: EBERLE-MORAN-MILLER, Geraldine I Offer My Work FREE To Help People, This Obits.cc Site Is Charging People!! I Began My Work Over 5 Years Ago & My 1st Installment Is In Print Form At The Buffalo & Erie County Public Library (Central) And Also At The Family History Center On Maple Rd. Can Anyone Give Me Some Insights As To What Course Of Action I Might Take? Jan

Jan -- Based on a useful website at Cornell http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/training/Hirtle_Public_Domain.htm it surely looks like your material would be protected by copyright. This would be the case whether you bothered to put a (c) on your site or not, as far as I can tell. The biggest issue that might potentially be raised, I guess, is whether you have contributed something of intellectual or creative value to the listing. It seems like the rule is that if you have "just" copied public records and published them, copyright protection is not likely to do much for you. (I do recognize that "just" copying public records is a much bigger deal that it sounds like -- hence the quote marks.) I'm not a lawyer, but you might want to start by contacting the owner of the website in question (you can do a "whois" to find out whom to contact) and saying that you think they have violated your copyright. That might be sufficient to get them to take your material off-line (assuming that's what your objective is) or at least credit you as the source. The next step, I think, would be to try to decide how much in terms of dollars this is worth to you. If you can put a value on it that exceeds, say $500, out of pocket expense for you to perfect your title to this work and keep it off the website in question, then you might want to talk to a lawyer -- particularly if the website owner tells you to buzz off. However, pursuing this sort of thing can get very expensive very fast, so it probably makes sense to set a dollar limit on what you're willing to spend to recover your work. Share that number with your lawyer. As somebody who republishes local history himself -- but is always EXTREMELY careful about copyrights -- I think your issue is definitely worth considering. There are way too many rip-off artists in this "industry". Sincerely, Geoff Brown www.betweenthelakes.com -----Original Message----- From: Logic [mailto:logic@buffnet.net] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:15 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] Copyright Help? Hi Gang As Most Of You Know I Have A Website Containing My Database http://www.buffnet.net/~logic/ Select Death Notices 1880 - 2004 While Googling Around I Wandered Into This Site http://www.obits.cc/obit/569.html And Found MY List Of Death Notices, Each Name Linking Not Back To My Page But To http://www.obits.cc/ On That Page A Paragraph I Am Upset With Is: "There are three kinds of supporters of this site; personal, corporate, and genealogical history groups or affiliates. All groups may have additional sites that may duplicate information found here." This Is MY Work....I Didn't Duplicate Anything...They Copied My Work!! There Is No Doubt About This Since I Decided To List The Surnames For Females By Any/ALL ie: EBERLE-MORAN-MILLER, Geraldine I Offer My Work FREE To Help People, This Obits.cc Site Is Charging People!! I Began My Work Over 5 Years Ago & My 1st Installment Is In Print Form At The Buffalo & Erie County Public Library (Central) And Also At The Family History Center On Maple Rd. Can Anyone Give Me Some Insights As To What Course Of Action I Might Take? Jan ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Hi Gang As Most Of You Know I Have A Website Containing My Database http://www.buffnet.net/~logic/ Select Death Notices 1880 - 2004 While Googling Around I Wandered Into This Site http://www.obits.cc/obit/569.html And Found MY List Of Death Notices, Each Name Linking Not Back To My Page But To http://www.obits.cc/ On That Page A Paragraph I Am Upset With Is: "There are three kinds of supporters of this site; personal, corporate, and genealogical history groups or affiliates. All groups may have additional sites that may duplicate information found here." This Is MY Work....I Didn't Duplicate Anything...They Copied My Work!! There Is No Doubt About This Since I Decided To List The Surnames For Females By Any/ALL ie: EBERLE-MORAN-MILLER, Geraldine I Offer My Work FREE To Help People, This Obits.cc Site Is Charging People!! I Began My Work Over 5 Years Ago & My 1st Installment Is In Print Form At The Buffalo & Erie County Public Library (Central) And Also At The Family History Center On Maple Rd. Can Anyone Give Me Some Insights As To What Course Of Action I Might Take? Jan

to start, i would contact the company direct and cc your attorney and someone within the govt of CANADA (in the USA i would have said YOUR states ATTORNEY as well as the WASHINGTON STATE states attorney...) and someone within british columbia ... since on the bottom of the web page is noted this: This site owned and maintained by Obits.ca Online Ltd, a Canadian Corporation snailmail in USA snailmail in Canada PO Box 679 792 Rossland Avenue Northport, WA, 99157 Trail, BC, V1R 3N3 better start gathering exhibits of their version as well as YOUR version at the exact same point in time... and be prepared for a fight.... you will have to be illustrating clearly how you cambe by the obits that you say are now on the iswebsite and how it is you KNOW that the infor was from YOUR web pate.... what you have below is not proof but rather your quick assessment of the situation.. you will have to be more of a documentatian to win your case... if you have dates of when you added something and then when it appeared on THEIR page then you will just have to do that.. i will comment that a surefire way is to creat a fictitious obit, not too unbelieveable tho which will ONLY and can ONLY appear on YOUR website.... and not anywhere else... the old data might not be something that you can recover from but this new FAKE named obit might prove that your website is being monitored and harvested.. whatever you do, be calm and clear and methodical and do not be inciteful.... On 5/2/05, Logic <logic@buffnet.net> wrote: > Hi Gang > > As Most Of You Know I Have A Website Containing My Database > http://www.buffnet.net/~logic/ Select Death Notices 1880 - 2004 > > While Googling Around I Wandered Into This Site > http://www.obits.cc/obit/569.html And Found MY List Of Death Notices, Each > Name Linking Not Back To My Page But To http://www.obits.cc/ > > On That Page A Paragraph I Am Upset With Is: > > "There are three kinds of supporters of this site; personal, corporate, and > genealogical history groups or affiliates. All groups may have additional > sites that may duplicate information found here." > > This Is MY Work....I Didn't Duplicate Anything...They Copied My Work!! > There Is No Doubt About This Since I Decided To List The Surnames For > Females By Any/ALL ie: EBERLE-MORAN-MILLER, Geraldine > > I Offer My Work FREE To Help People, This Obits.cc Site Is Charging People!! > I Began My Work Over 5 Years Ago & My 1st Installment Is In Print Form At > The Buffalo & Erie County Public Library (Central) And Also At The Family > History Center On Maple Rd. > > Can Anyone Give Me Some Insights As To What Course Of Action I Might Take? > > Jan > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Aggravating, huh? This might help you sort out if you have a case or not. "Copyright, a form of intellectual property law, protects original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works, such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software, and architecture. Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed." From: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/ To me, this says that you cannot copyright the fact that John Smith's death notice appeared in a Buffalo newspaper on a certain date, even if no one put that fact online before you. Everyone may cite published information (death notices qualify) without violating copyright law. But you might be able to copyright the way you organized and presented your compilation of newspaper citations. From what I saw, the offending website did not duplicate your design, layout, or arrangement of citations. Unfortunately, you might be in the same position as phone book publishers: http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Intellectual_Property_Rights/SEMHM2M26WD_0.html Neverthless, I can sympathize. I had one of my pages at Buffalo Roots plagiarized back in the '90s. The offender had duplicated all my links (which is permitted--on the web, anyone can link to anyone else), but duplicated them in the same order in the same categories I'd developed, with all of my original annotations, word for word (which is not permitted). I complained, my webhost complained, and the culprit apologized and removed the page. Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on TV. I claim no particular copyright expertise. --- Logic <logic@buffnet.net> wrote: > Hi Gang > > As Most Of You Know I Have A Website Containing My Database > http://www.buffnet.net/~logic/ Select Death Notices 1880 - > 2004 > > While Googling Around I Wandered Into This Site > http://www.obits.cc/obit/569.html And Found MY List Of Death > Notices, Each > Name Linking Not Back To My Page But To http://www.obits.cc/ > > On That Page A Paragraph I Am Upset With Is: > > "There are three kinds of supporters of this site; personal, > corporate, and > genealogical history groups or affiliates. All groups may have > additional > sites that may duplicate information found here." > > This Is MY Work....I Didn't Duplicate Anything...They Copied > My Work!! > There Is No Doubt About This Since I Decided To List The > Surnames For > Females By Any/ALL ie: EBERLE-MORAN-MILLER, Geraldine > > > I Offer My Work FREE To Help People, This Obits.cc Site Is > Charging People!! > I Began My Work Over 5 Years Ago & My 1st Installment Is In > Print Form At > The Buffalo & Erie County Public Library (Central) And Also > At The Family > History Center On Maple Rd. > > Can Anyone Give Me Some Insights As To What Course Of Action I > Might Take? > > Jan > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

Hi Jan, Don't you hate it when you have done all the hard work and someone thinks you did such a great job that they want to share it with the world? :-) Yeah, it stinks. I had an ISP (can you believe it!!) wanting to use my work on his web site because it would save him time--I not only told him no way (he had some suggestive stuff on his site) but I switched ISPs! That being said...I went to www.godaddy.com and typed in the domain name and then followed the links to find out "Who Is" Below is the information. My recommendation is to contact the company and the person who is listed as registrant and find out why this information is being published on their web site and how they obtained it. It also appears that they may be selling information from the web site. If you do not receive a response to your email, there is a phone number listed. Since you have stated that none of your info can be used, I would think that's sufficient for anyone to be able to understand. However, that doesn't mean someone won't try to use your info if they figure you're not going to check up on them. Trish Coos Bay, Oregon obits.ccRegistrant: Gordon Soukoreff (gordon@kootenay.net) TradeNet 1646 Arrow Lakes Drive Castlegar, BC V1N 3N3 CA 1-250-365-7175 Domain Name: obits.cc Administrative, Technical, Billing Contact: Gordon Soukoreff (gordon@kootenay.net) TradeNet 1646 Arrow Lakes Drive Castlegar, BC V1N 3N3 CA 1-250-365-7175 Record created on Jun 15 2003. Record expires on Jun 15 2005. Domain servers: kootcom.kootenay.net vader.kootenay.net You have used the whois service 4 / 20 Registry Status: ACTIVE -----Original Message----- From: Logic [mailto:logic@buffnet.net] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:15 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYERIE] Copyright Help? Hi Gang As Most Of You Know I Have A Website Containing My Database http://www.buffnet.net/~logic/ Select Death Notices 1880 - 2004 While Googling Around I Wandered Into This Site http://www.obits.cc/obit/569.html And Found MY List Of Death Notices, Each Name Linking Not Back To My Page But To http://www.obits.cc/ On That Page A Paragraph I Am Upset With Is: "There are three kinds of supporters of this site; personal, corporate, and genealogical history groups or affiliates. All groups may have additional sites that may duplicate information found here." This Is MY Work....I Didn't Duplicate Anything...They Copied My Work!! There Is No Doubt About This Since I Decided To List The Surnames For Females By Any/ALL ie: EBERLE-MORAN-MILLER, Geraldine I Offer My Work FREE To Help People, This Obits.cc Site Is Charging People!! I Began My Work Over 5 Years Ago & My 1st Installment Is In Print Form At The Buffalo & Erie County Public Library (Central) And Also At The Family History Center On Maple Rd. Can Anyone Give Me Some Insights As To What Course Of Action I Might Take? Jan ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

>what is the url for Buffalo Search Page ? >Zona You can always start at www.buffaloresearch.com. George

The link didn't work on mine either until I typed the end of the paste in myself. Sometimes that "copy and paste" thing doesn't exactly finish it's job. Good luck...Donna -----Original Message----- From: Heather Hess <chocolatl2004@yahoo.ca> Sent: May 2, 2005 10:25 AM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] US Immigration Collection Updated Hi: thanks for the info but the link doesn't seem to work. Heather --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: > Good news- 150,000 new names to the New York > Petitions for Naturalization > database, adding additional years from 1907-1929. > > This should help those who want to find info on > their Erie County > ancestors and elsewhere. > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=topics.ancestry.usim > migration&m=7 > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death > Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Hi: thanks for the info but the link doesn't seem to work. Heather --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: > Good news- 150,000 new names to the New York > Petitions for Naturalization > database, adding additional years from 1907-1929. > > This should help those who want to find info on > their Erie County > ancestors and elsewhere. > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=topics.ancestry.usim > migration&m=7 > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose > <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death > Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

what is the url for Buffalo Search Page ? Zona

boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=topics.ancestry.usimmigrati on&m=7.1.1 Searching the New York Passenger List collection at Ancestry.com is probably the best place to start. (See http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/default.aspx?rt=40 )

Heather copy and paste this into your browser window. boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=topics.ancestry.usimmigrati on&m=7

THE 1930 CENSUS HAS JULIUS R MARRIED TO SOMEONE DIFFERENT....1900 AND 1910 STILL HAS HIM MARRIED TO TRESSA. 1930 HAS HIM MARRIED TO ODELIA J. DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE COPIES AND SEND THEM TO YOU? DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS A FAX MACHINE? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jann Parks" <townefabric@rural-net.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: [NYERIE] 1920 Census > My sister and I are looking for Julius R. Reuman. In 1930 he lived on > Euclid Ave. in Buffalo. We had the census for 1900 and 1910 and he had a > different wife at that time. We are looking for the 1920 census. Is it > available in Ancestry.com? That is what my sister had and she can't find > it. any idea? > Jann Whalen Parks > Service is the rent you pay for your room on this planet > Shirley Chisholm > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi all: It has been a long time since I provided an update to the old newspaper articles. Spring is my busy time at work and my free hours are limited. As of this weekend all New York counties except Monroe have been moved to the new site. Monroe has over 600 articles still to be moved. As time permits they will be placed on the new county page. Most (but not all) of the new articles submitted for Erie and Monroe Counties are listed on the front page for each county. I may have missed listing several new articles for each county in this email. The new site has several new features and I would like to point out one. You now can add comments to news articles that have been posted. An example: The Mr. Smith in this article is my great grandfather. Betty Jones @ yahoo . com Below are the articles added from Erie, Niagara and Monroe Counties since the last update. Newspaper Abstracts is a user-contributed database of old newspaper articles and available free to all. ****************** Erie County Newspapers. See: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=635 The Buffalo Courier Eleven-Year-Old Ordered off Stage, Seven-Year-Old Stabs Eleven Year Old, Accidents, Obituaries, Man Almost Bits off Two of His Daughters Fingers, Personal Notes and Other News of the Day. The Buffalo Courier Clubs, Lodges, & Societies, Ambulance Calls, Local Gleanings, and other news of the day. The Buffalo Courier News of the day including Court News, List of Jurors, Policeman Fined $10.00, Divorces, Weddings and other news of the day. The Buffalo Courier Personal Mention, Bad Accident on Seneca Street, Accidents, Obituaries and other news of the day. The Buffalo Courier Accidents, Local Gleanings, A Lamp that Exploded and Other News of the Day. The Buffalo Courier Local Gleanings, Police Court, 72 year old man found on sidewalk and other news of the day. The Buffalo Courier Fires, Crime, Principal Baker's Case, One Obituary and other news of the day. The Buffalo Courier Court News, Real Estate Transfers, Patrolman's Funeral, Personal Mention, Police Court, Small Fires and other news of the day. The Buffalo Courier Terrible Accident Kills One, More May Die. The Buffalo Courier Various news including nine obituaries, sailor shoots himself, police court, court matters, real estate transfers, etc� The Buffalo Courier Voting Registration; Saches Insane; Divorce; Boy with Broken Arm The Buffalo Courier Various news including accidents, truants from Erie, PA., personal mention, etc� The Buffalo Courier Various news including Colden boy may die from bird shot, accidents, ..etc. The Buffalo Courier Various Western New York News. The Buffalo Courier Letter to the editor from teachers from School #31 supporting their principal. Includes a list of names. The Buffalo Courier Advertising The Buffalo Courier Local gleanings, Accidents, etc.. The Buffalo Courier Local and National News. The Buffalo Courier Club, Lodges, and Societies. The Buffalo Courier Two men accuse each other of assault. The Buffalo Courier Youthful Burglars. The Buffalo Courier Hancock/Hosmer married; Prof. Filer Honored; Brevities; R. H. Barnum dies; Woman Burned; Personals. The Buffalo Courier Election; Deaths of Bellinger, McDonald, General Local News; Sumner B. White committed The Buffalo Courier Crime and Punishment, Mostly Court Cases, and Ten Nurses Graduate, PHILLIPS killed, J.BENNETT murder The Buffalo Courier Workman injured in an accident. The Buffalo Courier Mayor Oliver paralyzed; August Wheeler dies; Churches; Brevities; Boy Struck by Train; Death of Lady The Buffalo Courier Batavia Snapshots; Death of John W. Emerson The Buffalo Courier Various news including court news, local gleanings, a four year old dies from burns etc. The Buffalo Courier Various News of the Day including Normal School Commencement, Several Accidents, Several Obituaries, Local Gleanings etc. The Buffalo Courier Court Record; Bids for Public Work The Buffalo Courier Weiss elected to Fire Board; Alexander Sloan successor; Mayors Cabinet; Mrs. Kraus The Buffalo Courier Court Cases Continued. The Buffalo Courier Grand Jury Cases The Buffalo Courier Various news including four boys go boating but only one returns, five obituaries, court matters, several accidents etc. The Buffalo Courier Various local and area news including the "Lawless Wheelmen" raid the orchards on Delaware street etc. ****************** Niagara County Newspapers. See: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=634 No new articles to my knowledge. ****************** Monroe County Newspapers. See: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=636 Democrat & Chronicle Nine Obituaries and a bad injury. Democrat & Chronicle Seven Obituaries. Democrat & Chronicle Eleven Obituaries. Democrat & Chronicle Memoirs of William Stone, an pioneer. Democrat and Chronicle Ten Obituaries. Democrat & Chronicle Two Obituaries Union and Advertiser Nine Deaths and Some Personal News. Union and Advertiser Board of Trustees pass a resolution honoring an employee. Union and Advertiser One Obituary and Doctor leaves for Medical College. Rochester Daily Advertiser Obituary: Talman Rochester Daily Advertiser Funeral Union and Advertiser Man killed at Grimesville, just east of Buffalo. Union and Advertiser Three obituaries and undertaker's ad. Rochester Observer Three marriages and one death. Rochester Observer Five marriages and one death. Includes marriages in Erie and Niagara Counties. Rochester Observer Three marriages. Rochester Observer Two marriages and two deaths. ****************** County and State Coordinators are needed. Please check to see if the area you may be interested is available. Feel free to forward this update to anyone you think may be interested. Many thanks to everyone who contributed articles since my last update. Don White Houston, Texas Erie County, NY State, and Province of Ontario Coordinator NewspaperAbstracts.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

My sister and I are looking for Julius R. Reuman. In 1930 he lived on Euclid Ave. in Buffalo. We had the census for 1900 and 1910 and he had a different wife at that time. We are looking for the 1920 census. Is it available in Ancestry.com? That is what my sister had and she can't find it. any idea? Jann Whalen Parks Service is the rent you pay for your room on this planet Shirley Chisholm

Hi~ In the 1920 census on ancestry, he is indexed as Julius R. Kenman. So, if your sister does a search with that name, he should come up. He's living in Cheektowaga, Erie, NY. Let me know if you need a transcription of the entry or whatever if she can't find it. Take care! "-) Justina "-) On 5/1/05, Jann Parks <townefabric@rural-net.com> wrote: > My sister and I are looking for Julius R. Reuman. In 1930 he lived on Euclid Ave. in Buffalo. We had the census for 1900 and 1910 and he had a different wife at that time. We are looking for the 1920 census. Is it available in Ancestry.com? That is what my sister had and she can't find it. any idea? > Jann Whalen Parks > Service is the rent you pay for your room on this planet > Shirley Chisholm > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Good news- 150,000 new names to the New York Petitions for Naturalization database, adding additional years from 1907-1929. This should help those who want to find info on their Erie County ancestors and elsewhere. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=topics.ancestry.usim migration&m=7

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Thank you everybody for all of your help and suggestions, I will follow up on all of them. I believe the Lloyd S. Hawkins listed below is my father, at that time he would have been maried to a Mary or Margaret (Masters) who's maried name now is shearer. They had 4 daughters who would be in their 50's to 60's. The only other information I have is that Mildred (Shererd) Hawkins was a school teacher in the Kenmore area and Lloyd S Hawkins graduated Kenmore HS in 1942 and attended the University of Buffalo and Syracuse University before and after WWII. Lloyd S Hawkins moved to Westerville Ohio about 1967 which was after his father Lloyd A Hawkins died in Buffalo . <<<Lloyd Hawkins who died possibly in 1967 which is all I have on him and Mildred (Shererd) Hawkins who died around July 4 1974. They had former addresses of 169 Kenmore Ave in Kenmore and 233 Parkside in Buffalo. These addresses were good around WWII.>>> As of the 1954/5 Buffalo phone book, there were no Hawkins listed at either of those addresses. There was one Lloyd in Buffalo, and dozens of other Hawkins in Buffalo. The only two Hawkins in the Tonawanda area were the following. Hawkins, Lloyd S. - 394 Hoyt St., Buffalo - ELmwood-6784 Hawkins, Albert R. - 344 Ward Rd., N. Tonawanda - LUdlow-2044 Hawkins, Richd - 951 Erie Ave., N. Tonawanda - LUdlow-5522 Hope this helps, Kathy

Zona wrote: >Costltly if I don't even know what city in Niagara or Erie County. There are 3 cities in Erie County: Buffalo (county seat), Tonawanda and Lackawanna. There are three cities in Niagara County: Niagara Falls, North Tonawanda and Lockport (county seat). Villages and towns are much more numerous. George