Little follow up I love this site, I spent one afternoon / evening going through all the memorial cards my mother had saved over the years and went through my records and entered all the information I had on family grave sites, and friends. I entered everything I knew so that down the line if others are doing research its all there for them. Matthew T. Hout Cleveland, Ohio http://www.hout.us -----Original Message----- From: Sara Burkholder [mailto:sburkholder@gci.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:43 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery Update - Memorial Day & Volunteer Opportuni... There is a site called findagrave.com On that site you can find the cemetery, enter gravestone photos and even provide a bio of the person. If memory serves there is an entry for Concordia on that site. Maybe we could all make it a project to add what we have on that site for starters. Sara Burkholder ----- Original Message ----- From: <YCSSALLAM@aol.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery Update - Memorial Day & Volunteer Opportuni... > Jillaine, > > I recently made a trip to WNY in April. I did have a chance to visit the > cemetery and was a little sad to see the condition. My cousin and I had > commented how we wished we lived closer so that we could volunteer to help. It is sad > to see the toppled monuments. I am glad that there are people who live in > the area and who care enough to volunteer their time. I live in NYC and really > don't have a chance to visit WNY that often. > > I took 3 photos of my GRITZKE ancesters' monuments. Would it be possible to > contribute them to the website or is it only for general photos of the > cemetery? If so, how? I think my cousin took a few pictures of some other stones. > I wrote down the information on a couple of other stones and could contribute > that as well. > > Thanks for keeping up the website and updates! > > Christine Sallam > > GRITZKE/SICKAU/BLEYLE/KILLINGBECK > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Jillaine, I recently made a trip to WNY in April. I did have a chance to visit the cemetery and was a little sad to see the condition. My cousin and I had commented how we wished we lived closer so that we could volunteer to help. It is sad to see the toppled monuments. I am glad that there are people who live in the area and who care enough to volunteer their time. I live in NYC and really don't have a chance to visit WNY that often. I took 3 photos of my GRITZKE ancesters' monuments. Would it be possible to contribute them to the website or is it only for general photos of the cemetery? If so, how? I think my cousin took a few pictures of some other stones. I wrote down the information on a couple of other stones and could contribute that as well. Thanks for keeping up the website and updates! Christine Sallam GRITZKE/SICKAU/BLEYLE/KILLINGBECK

There is a site called findagrave.com On that site you can find the cemetery, enter gravestone photos and even provide a bio of the person. If memory serves there is an entry for Concordia on that site. Maybe we could all make it a project to add what we have on that site for starters. Sara Burkholder ----- Original Message ----- From: <YCSSALLAM@aol.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Concordia Cemetery Update - Memorial Day & Volunteer Opportuni... > Jillaine, > > I recently made a trip to WNY in April. I did have a chance to visit the > cemetery and was a little sad to see the condition. My cousin and I had > commented how we wished we lived closer so that we could volunteer to help. It is sad > to see the toppled monuments. I am glad that there are people who live in > the area and who care enough to volunteer their time. I live in NYC and really > don't have a chance to visit WNY that often. > > I took 3 photos of my GRITZKE ancesters' monuments. Would it be possible to > contribute them to the website or is it only for general photos of the > cemetery? If so, how? I think my cousin took a few pictures of some other stones. > I wrote down the information on a couple of other stones and could contribute > that as well. > > Thanks for keeping up the website and updates! > > Christine Sallam > > GRITZKE/SICKAU/BLEYLE/KILLINGBECK > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

As the "caretaker" of the Concordia Cemetery web site, I have the following news to report from the Concordia Cemetery Association: The new volunteer season for Concordia Cemetery has begun... Those in the vicinity who care about the cemetery and the state of their ancestors' final resting place are encouraged to volunteer... Specifically, the Association seeks volunteers for their Saturday work groups which meet at the cemetery every Saturday at 9am until November. Address: 438 Walden @ Sycamore... There will be a Memorial Day service conducted at the cemetery on Monday May 30 at 11 am; all are welcome to attend. Dave Yearke attended last year's event and contributed some marvelous photos to the web site. I hope someone will attend this year and send me some updated photos to add to the web site. The CC Association has received New York State vandalism funds to support the restoration of toppled monuments; the restorations will begin in early June with an expected 60 monuments to be re-erected on repaired foundations by August! (I know that one of my ancestors has such a toppled monument...) This is a continuing project with hopes for more repairs in the upcoming years.. The Association is also seeking a grant to replace the missing wrought iron section signage and the large lichgate over the front drive. This will be slightly different from the original as it will swing open for truck access. The Association has already replaced the missing sections of fencing at the gate itself. The Association has also applied to the local United Way to be included in their Day of Caring Project which, if the application is successful, would provide 30 volunteers for a three hour blitz. With your continued interest and support, the all-volunteer Concordia Cemetery Association will continue to try and restore this place to a place of dignity. Concordia Cemetery Association http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine/concordia/ PO Box 1773 - Amherst, NY 14226; 716-892-2909 (phone only answered by a person on Saturdays, but there is voicemail)

Zona... thanks for catching my typo... The subject line originally said Margaret, but it should be MARTHA! I've changed it... Since my original post, I've learned that the Martha who married William Betz was Martha BUSCH. This particular Betz branch had a fondness for marrying siblings. By that I mean that the siblings William Betz and Tillie Betz married another set of siblings: Martha Busch and Arthur Busch! And the same thing happened a generation up... William's father's sister married William's mother's brother! %-} (Did you follow that?) Try making THAT work in an all-in-one family tree! ;-) --Jillaine http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine

Hello Zona (an list ) you will need to write to the Courthouse the letters were filed in Which court is your best guess , Where was the person living when they filed ??? Actually you best bet is a Personal Visit to the court house ,And read ALL of the court minutes for the Year you suspect the filing was done , IF you are really lucky you will find a two or three line notation stating that so an so was granted his First papers today by judge so an so My brother an I found our great grandfathers in the court in Blair county Penn. after THREE trips to search , OR , is there an Index made by the WPA back in the depression years ???? , Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: [NYERIE] Naturalization Papers question > What other paper prior to the Letter of Intent is known to exist? > Who do we write to to get papers? > Zona > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/05 > >

here zona... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lorine McGinnis Schulze <otg@csolve.net> Date: May 24, 2005 6:56 AM Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: THE "LEGALESE" IN PETITIONS, ETC. To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com On 24 May 2005 at 1:03, ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Last night after I was double-checking one of two sets sent > to my by NARA of my GF's paper to see which one may be my > GF's something in one caught my eye (briefly the heading): > District Court of the US/Southern District/NY wherein they > were referring to the matter of the application to be > admitted a citizen of the USA. First time I had seen this. > > The paragraph that caught my eye: > > "The above-named applicant, being over twenty-one years of > age, hereby petitions to be admitted to become a Citizen of > the United States of America, and avers that he arrived in > the United States before he became eighteen years of age, > and has ever since resided therein." > > How interesting that a separate government paper would be > for over 21 when petitioning and require under 18 when > arriving. > > Does anyone know why this particular requirement for over 21 > and under 18 and how long it was a requirement? One was > dated 1899 and the other 1900. It's explained on the website NaturalizationRecords.com "Aliens: From 1824 to 1906, minor aliens who had arrived in the United States as a minor at least 3 years before their 18th birthday could petition for naturalization at the age of 21. " http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ There's lots more there - explanations of various changes in rules and circumstances, plus links to online naturalization records. Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

What other paper prior to the Letter of Intent is known to exist? Who do we write to to get papers? Zona

Hi! Is there information on file somewhere about people who came to Erie County from Canada in the 1800s? I'm trying to locate information on the RISLEY or RISLAY family which is listed in the 1850 census at Black Rock but I can't find them after that. Julia Risley is the one that I am searching for information. She married George Waldo Durkee. I have her census information through 1890 at Harmony, Chautauqua County and then not again until 1900 in Minnesota. Thank you for your help! Trish Coos Bay, Oregon

Here's what to do when you come to town to research your Erie Coounty ancestors this summer. Take in an architecture or history tour with the Preservation Coalition. Be the first on your block to download the PDF! See: http://preserve.bfn.org/archives/05Tours.pdf -C. (who is Secretary of the Board of Trustees) *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

I lived at 751 Geneseee st. in 1938 third floor over the Danahy Faxon Store. Colonial theatre was on the corner. I have a book from the A. L. Weber Co. at 900 Genesee St. that shows my GP buying their furniture on time and paying it off weekly. This show years years 1927 on. Ken Fox

My guess the gal who married William Betz? -----Original Message----- From: zona.himmelsbach@juno.com [mailto:zona.himmelsbach@juno.com] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:22 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] William Betz b. abt. 1884 m. Margaret Unknown Who is Margaret in the subject line? Zona ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

>I am seeking descendants of the above-referenced couple; I have >recent information (thanks, George!) that leads me to believe they >are tied to my BETZ family. I'd be curious if anyone has access to a >1971 (or thereabouts) city directory, if they could look up Mrs. >Martha Betz and tell me what address she's at. Thanks. Jillaine, I'm leaving for Russia soon, but I'll be back in the US in about a month. If you don't have answers to your Betz questions by then, write me again with the current state of your request and I'll see what I can do. George

Who is Margaret in the subject line? Zona

I cannot find this guy in 1920 anywhere, but he was at 34 Mulberry Street in 1910 and at 19 Madison Street (rear) in 1930. I have tried looking up his Madison neighbors in the 1920 census, but by 1930, there are mostly black families living on this block, and they appear to have been recent arrivals-- none of them are on this street in 1920. Could someone with access to a 1920 city directory please see if they can find William Betz so I can track down his census record? (In 1930 he was a press hand for a machine shop.) They should have four children by now (Dorothy, Catherine, Henrietta, Edith) but unfortunately Ancestry's 1920 search index is head-of-household only... Related request: does anyone have any family living on Madison in the 1920 census? I'm convinced that this family has to be somewhere in the neighborhood in 1920.... Many many thanks! -- Jillaine http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine

If any of you have ancestors from rural Erie County who kept diaries, this one's for you. ===== Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 18:52:40 -0500 From: Written By Hand...Manuscript Americana P <peter.pehrson@writtenbyhand.com> Subject: [Genealib] QUERY: Cites for rural diaries? To: genealib@mailman.acomp.usf.edu Message-ID: <20050521235240.7C0B67C6C@sm4app04.siteprotect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, Colleagues: For an upcoming Newberry Library (Chicago) Seminar, I seek assistance with citations to published or unpublished sources for my paper entitled, "Rural Diaries as Expressions of Personal Spirituality." Specifically, I am interested in how rural inhabitants (whether on farms or in small towns and villages), conveyed in diaries a sense of piety, reverence, and worship through labor, domestic activities, and other forms of interaction with their social and physical environments, which were often characterized by isolation and literal connections to the land and animals on which they survived. Rural plant and animal husbandry, architecture, crops, and domestic foodways are some ancillary topics. The periods covered are 17th- through 20th centuries, the geographical focus is North America, and the language limitation is English (works translated into English would apply). I'm not including in this examination the work of tract societies or missionaries to American Natives, or established, organized urban denominations. Rural Utopian societies are included. As an example, I am aware of the Oneida Society in upstate New York, as well as Shaker communities in New Lebanon, etc. and would like to know about published or unpublished personal writings from the inhabitants. All of this is with a particular focus on the individual. Citations for existing critical and scholarly examinations of the subject are also welcomed. I'm much obliged for any assistance. Peter Christian Pehrson, Director Written by Hand Primary Source Manuscript Americana Yale Box 206581, New Haven, CT 06520 USA *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

I am seeking descendants of the above-referenced couple; I have recent information (thanks, George!) that leads me to believe they are tied to my BETZ family. I'd be curious if anyone has access to a 1971 (or thereabouts) city directory, if they could look up Mrs. Martha Betz and tell me what address she's at. Thanks. My most recent information about them is from the 1930 census where I find them in the 5th ward, ED 15-48, Sheet 23a, living at 19 rear Madison Street: Betz, William, 44, age 24 at first marriage, b. NY, parents b. Germany [probably incorrect], press hand, machine shop. [probably deceased by 1971] Betz, Martha, wife, 41, age 20 at first marrage, b. NY [still alive as of 1971] Betz, Dorothy, dau, 14, b. NY Betz, Catherine, dau, 17, b. NY, polisher, lens co. Betz, Henrietta, dau, 15, b. NY, polisher, lens co. Betz, Edith, dau, 13, b. NY Betz, Mildred, dau, 9, b. NY Betz, William, Jr., son, 8, b. NY Betz, Irving, son, 5, b. NY Betz, Shirley, son, 3, b. NY Betz, Jean, dau, 4 months or 8 months, b. NY If you are researching or related to this family, please contact me; if my theory turns out to be accurate, I have *significant* documentation back MANY generations. Sincerely, Jillaine Smith Washington DC http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine

That's exactly what they are. They provide food, clothing, and medical care to homeless people. ----- Original Message ----- From: GAIL LIPKA To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] "Friends of Night People"?? I believe its an group of people that try and help the homeless. Im sure someone else could be more specific. ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: [NYERIE] "Friends of Night People"?? > Who or what is "Friends of Night People" > > This was mentioned in one obituary from Buffalo News last March > > David Samuelsen > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

I believe its an group of people that try and help the homeless. Im sure someone else could be more specific. ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: [NYERIE] "Friends of Night People"?? > Who or what is "Friends of Night People" > > This was mentioned in one obituary from Buffalo News last March > > David Samuelsen > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Google to the rescue! See: http://www.friendsofnightpeople.com/ --- W David Samuelsen <dsam@sampubco.com> wrote: > Who or what is "Friends of Night People" > > This was mentioned in one obituary from Buffalo News last > March > > David Samuelsen > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for > your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family > and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich