Hi, Folks ~ Sorry to post an off-topic question, but is anyone else unable to access Ancestry.com census images, or is it just me and my computer?? It began today mid-afternoon, and attempts get various messages or nothing at alll. Just checking. Thanks, ~ Elsa in Allegany County, Maryland

Elsa .... Ancestry census images seem to be working now. Judy --- Elsa Vorwerk <elsavorwerk@mindspring.com> wrote: > Hi, Folks ~ > > Sorry to post an off-topic question, but is anyone > else unable to access Ancestry.com census images, > or is it just me and my computer?? It began today > mid-afternoon, and attempts get various messages > or nothing at alll. Just checking. Thanks, > > ~ Elsa in Allegany County, Maryland > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so > much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

St Stephen's records are on microfilm at the Buffalo Main Library -Special Collections Dept - opens 10 am each morning. Ned Schimminger

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Peter Smith (my gg-grandfather) b. 1832 in Belgium (according to the 1860 census Ward 5 Buffalo), wife was Harriet Dewerele or Dewerle. Children in 1860 were Charles b. 1858 in Canada & Ellen b. 1860 in NY. I'm try to determine if the Francis Smith b. 1835 in Belgium also in Ward 5, and the Nicholas Smith b. 1830 Belgium in Ward 3, are his siblings. Also there is an Elizabeth Schmidt b. 1796 Belgium in Ward 5, and I think she will be there mother. In the 1850 census for Buffalo, ward 4, there is Elizabeth Schmidt b. abt. 1798 Germany, with sons: Nicholas age 18, Peter age 16, Francis age 13, Michael age 8 & John age 6. The first three were also listed as being born in Germany, and Michael & John in NY. In the 1870 census I find Nicholas and his family in Titusville, Crawford Co., PA., and in the 1880 census my Peter Smith family is in Bradford, McKean Co., PA. Not very far from Crawford Co. Any help on these families is very welcome, as I've been searching for over 10 years now for Peter's parents and siblings. Paula Chodacki www.chodacki.net ----- Original Message ----- From: NYERIE-D-request@rootsweb.com To: NYERIE-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: NYERIE-D Digest V05 #114

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I have buried both parents here in Michigan, and several aunts and uncles within a few years of each other, and the rule of the funeral homes and cemetaries here is that only 3 flower arrangements can go to the cemetary. The rest of the flowers you have to decide to have family members take from the funeral home, or allow them to give to organizations that use them at nursing homes, etc., or they just depose of them. Paula Chodacki www.chodacki.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Wasiura To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] only in Buffalo Thanks Cynthia. Usually if flowers are declined the family would ask that a donation be made to a charity. That's why flowers are declined in many instances. Also some of the flowers are taken to the church and the remainder are left on the grave. Its not the best picture seeing your flowers thrown on top of the grave. Large families often have enough flowers from relatives and do not need any more. Several reasons for declining flowers. Jim

Now I'm even dumber. My grandson will love this. He sang with the Buffalo Chips while a student at SUNY at Buffalo. Grace

The new St. Stephens films are in the library of the Western New York Genealogical Society which is located in the Grosvenor (Special Collections) Room in the main branch of the Buffalo and Erie County Public Library. These are the records that were filmed: St. Stephens Evangelical & Reformed Church [formerly at Peckham & Adams, Buffalo, now at 750 Wehrle Drive, Amherst, New York]. All of the available records of St. Stephens Church were filmed, however, a few years of marriage and death records are missing and their location is unknown. a.. 1. Baptisms 1853-1973 b.. 2. Deaths 1853 - 1901, 1904 - 1973 c.. 3. Marriages 1853 - 1898, 1904 - 1973 d.. 4. Confirmations 1853 - 1902, 1904 - 1973 See: http://www.wnygs.org/microfilm.html for more newly filmed church records that are now available at the same location. And there are more on their way. Chris Andrle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Burkholder" <sburkholder@gci.net> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:58 AM Subject: [NYERIE] ST. Stephens > Hi folks, > Going to shuffle off to Buffalo later this week and was wondering if > someone could tell me where I might view the newly microfilmed St. > Stephen's records? Also does anyone know the address and the hours for > the building that now houses older county records? Thanks for any info > you may have on these two things. Sara Burkholder > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

It gets better! Legend has it that "Buffalo gals" actually refers to the prostitutes of Canal Street. --- grace w gathman <wallace26@juno.com> wrote: > I'm sorry I can't help you with this, but I just had to share > how deep > our ignorance can be on some topics. I just learned last week > that > "Buffalo gal won't you come out with me" referred to Buffalo, > NY. I > thought it was in reference to a Western theme. Dumb. Grace > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

Sara..... You Can View The St. Stephen's Films In The Grosvenor Room At The Central Library Downtown. Buffalo & Erie County Public Library * 1 Lafayette Square * Buffalo, NY 14203 * (716) 858-8900 I Would Call & Double Check The Hours They Are Open Because The Last 2 Times I Went The Hours Didnt Match With The Website Hours. http://www.buffalolib.org/libraries/central/index.asp They Used To Be Open At 8:30 On Sat But Last Time I Went It The Doors Didnt Open Until 10 Or 10:30am Heres The Records Center Info: Inactive Records Center 85 River Rock Drive, Suite 301 Buffalo, NY 14207 Phone: (716) 874-6401 or (716) 570-8721 Again...I Would Call 1st ......Heres Their Website http://www.ci.buffalo.ny.us/document_115_23.html Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara Burkholder" <sburkholder@gci.net> To: <NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:58 AM Subject: ST. Stephens > Hi folks, > Going to shuffle off to Buffalo later this week and was wondering if > someone could tell me where I might view the newly microfilmed St. > Stephen's records? Also does anyone know the address and the hours for > the building that now houses older county records? Thanks for any info > you may have on these two things. Sara Burkholder > > ______________________________

Subject: FYI: Fr. Marquette Gets a Blog Father Marquette (1637-1675) seems an unlikely blogger. But the Wisconsin Historical Society has converted the journal of his famous 1673 trip down the Mississippi with Louis Joliet into electronic form, and through the summer we'll stream it out every Tuesday and Friday. This week they leave a village of 3,000 Indians southwest of Green Bay, make the first recorded crossing of the Fox-Wisconsin portage, and start down the Wisconsin - - whose name was first put on paper in Marquette's journal 332 years ago this week. See the Mississippi Valley as it first appeared to European eyes. Eavesdrop on conversations with Indians who'd never seen white men. Encounter monsters that lurked under their fragile birchbark canoes, and bizarre petroglyphs that guarded ferocious whirlpools. See how the unarmed priest repulsed attacks by hostile warriors as he and Joliet became the first explorers to descend the Mississippi. Running commentary by WHS staff will try to pin-point their location, quote other contemporary accounts, explain archaic words and phrases, and offer insights that make reading the journal more fun. It's all free, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, at http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/diary/marquette_1673.asp<http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/diary/marquette_1673.asp>. There's even an RSS feed, so you can have each installment delivered automatically to your personal home page, or add it to a Web site you maintain for a class, club, or organization. Feel free to pass this note along to anyone who might like to know about it. If you'll be camping or canoeing in the Midwest this summer, come to wisconsinhistory.org and experience America's heartland in the words of the first Europeans who laid eyes on it. NOTE: -there is lots more on the site and not specific to wisconsin tho wisc is the basis... -for those of German ancestry, Wisconsin was (and still is) heavily populated by Germans..

I'm sorry I can't help you with this, but I just had to share how deep our ignorance can be on some topics. I just learned last week that "Buffalo gal won't you come out with me" referred to Buffalo, NY. I thought it was in reference to a Western theme. Dumb. Grace

Thanks Cynthia. Usually if flowers are declined the family would ask that a donation be made to a charity. That's why flowers are declined in many instances. Also some of the flowers are taken to the church and the remainder are left on the grave. Its not the best picture seeing your flowers thrown on top of the grave. Large families often have enough flowers from relatives and do not need any more. Several reasons for declining flowers. Jim

Actually, if you Google on the phrase "flowers gratefully declined," you see that it appears in newspaper death notices from all over, not just Buffalo. --- Rachel <fullerfamilytree@yahoo.com> wrote: > I can see limiting the grave decorations if the deceased has > been buried for a while, some grave decorations can get out of > hand and would be hard for cemetery maintenance. In my local > cemetery I regularly see children's toys, home made signs, > vases of flowers, balloons, birthday cards- even cans of beer > placed on a headstone as tribute.... and while it is touching > to the deceased I can see how hard it would be to mow and trim > around. But for what funerals cost you should be able to > have all the flowers you like at the time of burial- at least > limited amount of time. > > Rachel > Snow689@aol.com wrote: > At one funeral I went to in Buffalo, the funeral director said > only one > bouquet was allowed at the cemetery, and the rest would be > thrown away. That > might be why they say, "Flowers are gratefully declined." > The cemetery where my parents are, the groundskeeper is older, > and > getting tired of a lot of work, and I imagine that hauling > away tons of flowers > takes quite a bit of work. > > Kathy > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose > > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > "Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" > http://www.raogk.com/ > Lenawee county, MI > > > > > --------------------------------- > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. > Check it out! > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich

Hi folks, Going to shuffle off to Buffalo later this week and was wondering if someone could tell me where I might view the newly microfilmed St. Stephen's records? Also does anyone know the address and the hours for the building that now houses older county records? Thanks for any info you may have on these two things. Sara Burkholder

I think that it is actually the family asking for a limit of flowers sent to the funeral home. An over-abundance of flower arrangements can be overwhelming. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Rachel [mailto:fullerfamilytree@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:32 PM To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYERIE] only in Buffalo I can see limiting the grave decorations if the deceased has been buried for a while, some grave decorations can get out of hand and would be hard for cemetery maintenance. In my local cemetery I regularly see children's toys, home made signs, vases of flowers, balloons, birthday cards- even cans of beer placed on a headstone as tribute.... and while it is touching to the deceased I can see how hard it would be to mow and trim around. But for what funerals cost you should be able to have all the flowers you like at the time of burial- at least limited amount of time. Rachel Snow689@aol.com wrote: At one funeral I went to in Buffalo, the funeral director said only one bouquet was allowed at the cemetery, and the rest would be thrown away. That might be why they say, "Flowers are gratefully declined." The cemetery where my parents are, the groundskeeper is older, and getting tired of a lot of work, and I imagine that hauling away tons of flowers takes quite a bit of work. Kathy ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== List Administrator: Dick Rose My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx "Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" http://www.raogk.com/ Lenawee county, MI --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

At one funeral I went to in Buffalo, the funeral director said only one bouquet was allowed at the cemetery, and the rest would be thrown away. That might be why they say, "Flowers are gratefully declined." The cemetery where my parents are, the groundskeeper is older, and getting tired of a lot of work, and I imagine that hauling away tons of flowers takes quite a bit of work. Kathy

I can see limiting the grave decorations if the deceased has been buried for a while, some grave decorations can get out of hand and would be hard for cemetery maintenance. In my local cemetery I regularly see children's toys, home made signs, vases of flowers, balloons, birthday cards- even cans of beer placed on a headstone as tribute.... and while it is touching to the deceased I can see how hard it would be to mow and trim around. But for what funerals cost you should be able to have all the flowers you like at the time of burial- at least limited amount of time. Rachel Snow689@aol.com wrote: At one funeral I went to in Buffalo, the funeral director said only one bouquet was allowed at the cemetery, and the rest would be thrown away. That might be why they say, "Flowers are gratefully declined." The cemetery where my parents are, the groundskeeper is older, and getting tired of a lot of work, and I imagine that hauling away tons of flowers takes quite a bit of work. Kathy ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== List Administrator: Dick Rose My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx "Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" http://www.raogk.com/ Lenawee county, MI --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!

I am in need of information on Fay Doesickle\variations from Ontario to Buffalo, N.Y. from 1890 to 1930 . Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you Tonya