nope, go for it zona On 8/1/05, zona.himmelsbach@juno.com <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> wrote: > vv Did you post this message to the Oswego message board? > Zona > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >
Subject: john hall or fulton NY 1875 Erie Canal: Canal Boat Mortgage 1875 for the Canal Boat zjohn Hall of Fulton, N. Y. for $1,800. It reads, "Know Ye, That I. John Hall of Fulton in the state of New York, am sole owner of the Canal boat or vessel called John Hall of Fulton, N. Y. ..being justly indebted to Carlon Church of same place, N. Y. of the second part, in the sum of $1,800 Dollars" etc.... Four pages. http://cgi.ebay.com/1875-Canalboat-John-Hall-mortgage-Erie-Canal_W0QQitemZ6549742222QQcategoryZ29466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem<http://cgi.ebay.com/1875-Canalboat-John-Hall-mortgage-Erie-Canal_W0QQitemZ6549742222QQcategoryZ29466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> no vested interest in this sale...or any ebay sale for that matter!
early Erie Canal document. On one side,is written and printed "Collector's Office, Brockport Oct. 8, 1829, I, H.S. Frink (?), Master of the Boat Com. McDonough of Rochester, Do Certify, that the following is a full and true statement of the present cargo of the said boat, and that I have paid toll thereon as follows: To T. Bowman (?) For original cargo, on Clearance No. 2033 $.74, To T.B. Hill for additional cargo .21, Boat Rochester Grains (?) 37 $0.74, Additional Cargo Cleared at Brockport, 3 Bals. Flour Rochester Albion 3.3.18.350.21, H.S. Frink". On the reverse, I believe, is "Collector's Office, Brockport Oct. 8, 1829, I, Simon Dishrow (?), Master of the Boat, Rob't Morris of Troy, Do Certify, that the following is a full and true statement of the present cargo of the said boat, and that I have paid toll thereon as follows: To Z.W. Barker for original cargo, on Clearance No. 1264 $17.12, To R.S. Brownes (?) For additional cargo, Original Cargo Cleared at Buffalo to Troy 356, Additional Cargo Cleared at Albion, 1 (?) Lockport Troy 1.2.00 326 $0.37, S. Dishrow (?)". It measures approximately 7 1/4" x 5". http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-EARLY-1829-ERIE-CANAL-Document-ROCHESTER-BROCKPORT_W0QQitemZ7704419836QQcategoryZ208QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem<http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-EARLY-1829-ERIE-CANAL-Document-ROCHESTER-BROCKPORT_W0QQitemZ7704419836QQcategoryZ208QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
vv Did you post this message to the Oswego message board? Zona
Greetings: Below are the articles that have been added from Erie County newspapers since my last update. I would like to take a second to publicly thank the volunteers who have taken time to transcribe all the articles that have been posted the first six months of this year. Without them this resource would not continue to grow. An interesting article this time shows the meals convicts received in the Erie County Penitentiary in 1891. Newspaper Abstracts is a user-contributed database of old newspaper articles and available free to all. ****************** Erie County Newspapers. See: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=635 The Buffalo Courier Magdalene Laux KLINCK obituary, Medical College Faculty, Court News The Buffalo Courier Tales from Travelers, Two Deaths, Deaf Mute Arrested, Central Station Narrowly Escapes Destruction, Etc The Buffalo Courier A Chapter of Accidents. The Buffalo Courier Court Matters. The Buffalo Courier Four Births, Four Marriages, and Thirteen Deaths. The Buffalo Courier Court news, laborer killed on the job in East Buffalo, grocer swindled by pair of flimflammers. The Buffalo Enquirer She advertised for a husband and she got just that! The Buffalo Courier Dunkirk Democrats, Court News, Willie McCARTEN died, Patrolmen DEMPSEY, GOODELL, SAMMON, DURKIN The Buffalo Courier Unfaithful Lover Arrested, Kensington Citizens Association, Wife Beaters, Syracuse Woman Wins Piano, Etc... The Buffalo Courier On The Carpet. The Buffalo Courier News from Tonawanda, Holland, Springbrook, Springville, West Seneca and East Aurora. The Buffalo Courier Court notes including an adoption, cemetery allowed to sell real estate, etc. The Buffalo Courier Minor Accidents. The Buffalo Courier Fainting May Cause Woman's Death, Died of Smallpox, Buried in Howard Cemetery, Brought to Life, etc. The Buffalo Courier Ambulance Calls etc The Buffalo Courier Hospital Cases. The Buffalo Courier McGUIRE, MUENCH died, Politics in Niagara, Wyoming, Cattaraugus & Genesee Counties, Court News The Buffalo Courier Court Matters, Killed in the Fog, Letter-carrier Funeral, etc . The Amherst Bee News from Clarence and Bowmansville. Buffalo Courier Two mysterious disappearances, Heavy eater gets worst of fight, Police give him bad name, etc The Buffalo Courier One man killed, another injured while on the way to work, doings of the Police Board, etc. The Buffalo Courier The Accident Chapter. The Buffalo Courier Coroners' Cases. The Buffalo Courier Accident, Prize Winner, Two Deaths and Three Obituaries. The Buffalo Courier Patents Granted. The Buffalo Courier Court News; Names of 25 who passed the teacher's exam, Wills for KRIEG & 7 others. The Buffalo Courier She Was Not Kicked to Death. The Buffalo Courier Boy Who Walked Too Close to a Bonfire. The Buffalo Courier A Sudden Death. The Buffalo Courier Hit with a Shovel. The Buffalo Courier Local and Regional News Including Deaths, Births, Marriages, Funerals, etc. The Buffalo Courier The Fire Record. The Buffalo Courier Coroner's Cases and Ambulance Calls. The Buffalo Courier Daily ration for convicts in the Erie County Penitentiary The Buffalo Courier Real Estate Items and Court News The Buffalo Courier Court Matters. The Buffalo Courier Three Obituaries. The Buffalo Courier The Accident Chapter. ****************** Feel free to forward this update to anyone you think may be interested. Many thanks to everyone who contributed articles since my last update. Have a great week. Don White Houston, Texas Erie County, NY State, and Province of Ontario Coordinator NewspaperAbstracts.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Thanks to all for the info on the NY Newspapers. I appreciate the input. I've been meaning to find out about the interlibrary loan system, so this will be a good time. Kathi IBSSG [Thompson, Crane, Bramm, Fleischer, Meissner, Diem, Steng, Zeininger]
Thank you very much for this info SLC Cynthia Van Ness wrote: >Try the Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, which is is online >at: > >http://www.buffalolib.org/ebranch/askus/index.asp > >--- slc33 <slc33@texas.net> wrote: > > > >>Finally after a long time I have found the death date for >> >>CHRISTIANA HOLDEN nee BREW b 1809 Isle of Man >> >>who I had been looking for and posted a few emails re her >>death date to >>the list awhile back ..... >> >> >>Buffalo, NY 8/24/1884 >> >>per her son in law Samuel Pooley's living relatives but they >>don't seem >>to have much more. >> >>Where would I go to see if there was an obit? >>Would there even be one for that time period or just mention >>of her death? >> >>I guess what library would I be using to ask for this? >>Would be nice if Library is online. >> >>Thank you >>SLC >> >>NOD32 antivirus system >>Record winner of the Virus Bulletin 100% Award >>http://www.nod32.com >> >> >>==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >>List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >>My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ >>Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records >>added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn >>more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > >*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* >Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com >www.buffaloresearch.com > "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: > So much has been destroyed > I have to cast my lot with those > who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary > power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich > > >==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== >List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> >My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ >Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- NOD32 antivirus system Record winner of the Virus Bulletin 100% Award http://www.nod32.com
Try the Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, which is is online at: http://www.buffalolib.org/ebranch/askus/index.asp --- slc33 <slc33@texas.net> wrote: > Finally after a long time I have found the death date for > > CHRISTIANA HOLDEN nee BREW b 1809 Isle of Man > > who I had been looking for and posted a few emails re her > death date to > the list awhile back ..... > > > Buffalo, NY 8/24/1884 > > per her son in law Samuel Pooley's living relatives but they > don't seem > to have much more. > > Where would I go to see if there was an obit? > Would there even be one for that time period or just mention > of her death? > > I guess what library would I be using to ask for this? > Would be nice if Library is online. > > Thank you > SLC > > NOD32 antivirus system > Record winner of the Virus Bulletin 100% Award > http://www.nod32.com > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich
Finally after a long time I have found the death date for CHRISTIANA HOLDEN nee BREW b 1809 Isle of Man who I had been looking for and posted a few emails re her death date to the list awhile back ..... Buffalo, NY 8/24/1884 per her son in law Samuel Pooley's living relatives but they don't seem to have much more. Where would I go to see if there was an obit? Would there even be one for that time period or just mention of her death? I guess what library would I be using to ask for this? Would be nice if Library is online. Thank you SLC NOD32 antivirus system Record winner of the Virus Bulletin 100% Award http://www.nod32.com
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Sherry, I sent you some KOFEJU surname variations off-list. Did you get them? Zona
Has anyone ever heard of this name, or know of anyone of this name? My grandmother's sister was named Martha Paul Pollard Kofeju (previously married to a POLLARD). KOFEJU was pronounced KAY-figh (if that makes sense--the last syllable rhymes with "high"). A whole bunch of them lived at 71 Lilac Street in Buffalo for a number of years, at least until the 1920 Census. I suspect the name has been transcribed wrong and that is why I can't find anything about them after that. I don't know when Martha Kofeju or her husband (Anthony Edmund "Eddie" Kofeju) died. Martha was born in 1882 in Kansas, and Eddie was born in 1884 in Austria. Their daughter, Jessie May POLLARD (born 1901), married Amos E. KRESGE. Amos Kresge was related to the family who started the old Kress Dime Stores, which eventually became K-Mart. I would appreciate any suggestions as to further Erie County resources I can search for information on this family. Is there a genealogical society that has a research service? Thank you........ Sherry Steele (Seattle)
This'll give you detail on what vital records you might be able to find: http://www.buffaloresearch.com/vital.html Good luck! --- grlswthguitars@aol.com wrote: > Hello All - > > I've been trying to get some information on a Thomas Crane who > owned a saloon in Buffalo in the early 1880's. He's present > in the City Directories until 1885, when his wife Mary is > listed instead. I figured that either he died or ran off with > the barmaid sometime in 1884. > Then I found a record on an LDS film "Cardfile of Death > Records from News Clippings, 1812-1985" from Buffalo & Erie > County Historical Society. The card merely says "Thomas > Crane, Sept 29, 1884 Age 34". > There's no citation for the source. > > I haven't done any previous research in Erie County (I'm > trying to tie this Thomas Crane back to an Irish family in > Oswego) so I'm hoping that I can benefit from everyone else's > experience. Can anyone tell me how likely it is that there > would be an actual death certificate or record with the City > Clerk in Buffalo? > What about a newspaper archives covering this period? I'm > thinking that since he was only 34, perhaps his untimely > demise was a newsworthy event, and would rate more than just a > standard death notice. > > I'm in California, so I can't pop over there and check, and I > confess, I'm getting a little weary of paying $20 a pop for > "no record found" reports. Any help, comments, advice would > be sincerely appreciated. > > Kathi > ISBGGS > New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer > Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Deim/Zeinninger > > > > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich
I just want to emphasize the last part of Don's helpful message. When you want something via interlibrary loan, you must request it through your local library, not the library, wherever it is, that owns it. --- Don W <copperfielddon@yahoo.com> wrote: > Kathi: > The Buffalo, NY newspapers are available via the > inter-library loan program. Below is the link to the > New York State Library program. Since you have the > date you can request any newspaper microfilms > available that cover that date and at least a week > later. I would try these to start. > Buffalo Morning Express > Buffalo Evening News > Buffalo Daily Courier > Evening Republic > > http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/ > > Your library should be able to order these films. > > Don White > Erie County, NY State, and Province of Ontario > Coordinator > NewspaperAbstracts.com > http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php > > > --- grlswthguitars@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello All - > > > > I've been trying to get some information on a Thomas > > Crane who owned a saloon in Buffalo in the early > > 1880's. He's present in the City Directories until > > 1885, when his wife Mary is listed instead. I > > figured that either he died or ran off with the > > barmaid sometime in 1884. > > Then I found a record on an LDS film "Cardfile of > > Death Records from News Clippings, 1812-1985" from > > Buffalo & Erie County Historical Society. The card > > merely says "Thomas Crane, Sept 29, 1884 Age 34". > > There's no citation for the source. > > > > I haven't done any previous research in Erie County > > (I'm trying to tie this Thomas Crane back to an > > Irish family in Oswego) so I'm hoping that I can > > benefit from everyone else's experience. Can anyone > > tell me how likely it is that there would be an > > actual death certificate or record with the City > > Clerk in Buffalo? > > What about a newspaper archives covering this > > period? I'm thinking that since he was only 34, > > perhaps his untimely demise was a newsworthy event, > > and would rate more than just a standard death > > notice. > > > > I'm in California, so I can't pop over there and > > check, and I confess, I'm getting a little weary of > > paying $20 a pop for "no record found" reports. Any > > help, comments, advice would be sincerely > > appreciated. > > > > Kathi > > ISBGGS > > New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer > > Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Deim/Zeinninger > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich
Hello All - I've been trying to get some information on a Thomas Crane who owned a saloon in Buffalo in the early 1880's. He's present in the City Directories until 1885, when his wife Mary is listed instead. I figured that either he died or ran off with the barmaid sometime in 1884. Then I found a record on an LDS film "Cardfile of Death Records from News Clippings, 1812-1985" from Buffalo & Erie County Historical Society. The card merely says "Thomas Crane, Sept 29, 1884 Age 34". There's no citation for the source. I haven't done any previous research in Erie County (I'm trying to tie this Thomas Crane back to an Irish family in Oswego) so I'm hoping that I can benefit from everyone else's experience. Can anyone tell me how likely it is that there would be an actual death certificate or record with the City Clerk in Buffalo? What about a newspaper archives covering this period? I'm thinking that since he was only 34, perhaps his untimely demise was a newsworthy event, and would rate more than just a standard death notice. I'm in California, so I can't pop over there and check, and I confess, I'm getting a little weary of paying $20 a pop for "no record found" reports. Any help, comments, advice would be sincerely appreciated. Kathi ISBGGS New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Deim/Zeinninger
Part of S. Wales is in the town of Aurora so you may need to check with them if Wales doesn't have anything. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: zona.himmelsbach@juno.com<mailto:zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> To: NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] city clerks I guess I'll get a death certificate from Wales then. Zona On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Cynthia Van Ness <bettybarcode@yahoo.com<mailto:bettybarcode@yahoo.com>> writes: > Because South Wales is an unincorporated hamlet (i.e. a > neighborhood) in the town of Wales. It is not a legal > municipality and has no town hall or town clerk. > > --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com<mailto:zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> wrote: > > > http://members.tripod.com/~wnyroots/index-clerks.html<http://members.tripod.com/~wnyroots/index-clerks.html> > > > > Why isn't the Town of South Wales on this webpage? ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net<mailto:dtrose@cox.net>> My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/<http://members.cox.net/dtrose/> Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>
Kathi: The Buffalo, NY newspapers are available via the inter-library loan program. Below is the link to the New York State Library program. Since you have the date you can request any newspaper microfilms available that cover that date and at least a week later. I would try these to start. Buffalo Morning Express Buffalo Evening News Buffalo Daily Courier Evening Republic http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/ Your library should be able to order these films. Don White Erie County, NY State, and Province of Ontario Coordinator NewspaperAbstracts.com http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php --- grlswthguitars@aol.com wrote: > Hello All - > > I've been trying to get some information on a Thomas > Crane who owned a saloon in Buffalo in the early > 1880's. He's present in the City Directories until > 1885, when his wife Mary is listed instead. I > figured that either he died or ran off with the > barmaid sometime in 1884. > Then I found a record on an LDS film "Cardfile of > Death Records from News Clippings, 1812-1985" from > Buffalo & Erie County Historical Society. The card > merely says "Thomas Crane, Sept 29, 1884 Age 34". > There's no citation for the source. > > I haven't done any previous research in Erie County > (I'm trying to tie this Thomas Crane back to an > Irish family in Oswego) so I'm hoping that I can > benefit from everyone else's experience. Can anyone > tell me how likely it is that there would be an > actual death certificate or record with the City > Clerk in Buffalo? > What about a newspaper archives covering this > period? I'm thinking that since he was only 34, > perhaps his untimely demise was a newsworthy event, > and would rate more than just a standard death > notice. > > I'm in California, so I can't pop over there and > check, and I confess, I'm getting a little weary of > paying $20 a pop for "no record found" reports. Any > help, comments, advice would be sincerely > appreciated. > > Kathi > ISBGGS > New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer > Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Deim/Zeinninger __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
I guess I'll get a death certificate from Wales then. Zona On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Cynthia Van Ness <bettybarcode@yahoo.com> writes: > Because South Wales is an unincorporated hamlet (i.e. a > neighborhood) in the town of Wales. It is not a legal > municipality and has no town hall or town clerk. > > --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: > > > http://members.tripod.com/~wnyroots/index-clerks.html > > > > Why isn't the Town of South Wales on this webpage?
Because South Wales is an unincorporated hamlet (i.e. a neighborhood) in the town of Wales. It is not a legal municipality and has no town hall or town clerk. --- zona.himmelsbach@juno.com wrote: > http://members.tripod.com/~wnyroots/index-clerks.html > > Why isn't the Town of South Wales on this webpage? > > > ==== NYERIE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <dtrose@cox.net> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com www.buffaloresearch.com "My heart is moved by all I cannot save: So much has been destroyed I have to cast my lot with those who, age after age, perversely, with no extraordinary power, reconstitute the world." -Adrienne Rich
http://members.tripod.com/~wnyroots/index-clerks.html Why isn't the Town of South Wales on this webpage?