Perhaps the problem is too many messages. I agree about keeping this focused on genealogy. A little digression is understandable, but days and days of various threads unrelated to genealogy is a bit much. Thanks. Mak On Feb 8, 2008 9:44 AM, Sharon <[email protected]> wrote: > nice suggestion but too many mailing lists. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Off-topic and screen clutter > > > >A separate list "spun off" from NYNIAGARA and was > > named NYNIAGARA-FOLKS .... just a thought. > > > > Judy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- +1(310) 856-9885 skype: mcintire.allen

DParker~ You may want to check out a very fun book that was recently self-published: Nine Nine Eight: The Glory Days of Buffalo Shopping By Michael F. Rizzo Published 2007 Lulu.com <http://books.google.com/books?q=inpublisher:%22Lulu.com%22> History / General <http://books.google.com/books?q=+subject:%22History+/+General%22> 172 pages ISBN 1430313862 It's a delightful resource (and I don't even know the author!). BTW, I believe that local social history is an integral part of exploring our family's heritage. Topical focus is how I judge whether a posting is justified on a Rootsweb mailing list. Two weeks of arbitrary comments on yummy Beef-on-Weck gets old....fast. On the other hand, I appreciated the postings of recipes for sponge candy and long-distance Beef-on-Weck. Just throwing my two cents. Kate Johnson Denver, Colorado

Touche, Don! I'm sorry I lashed out yesterday about all of these recent e-mails. I value this list. I have saved over 2,000 pieces of mail that have helped me as I am fairly new to this hobby. I just can't seem to be able to keep up with my own life sometimes. Donna -----Original Message----- >From: Don W <[email protected]> >Sent: Feb 7, 2008 8:47 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NYERIE] Adding depth to your family history > >After reading most if not all of the recent posts it >reminded me of something I said I would do shortly >after my aunt passed away suddenly. She was the last >one in my parents generation. >To often we look at our family genealogy as just >names, dates, and places. >On one of my trips back to Buffalo, I was able to get >my aunt to sit down at a table and using a tape >recorder and movie camera (not facing her) was able to >get her to go through the old photos that she had >saved. >The stories she told that I had never heard and the >family details that I would never find looking at >microfilm, city directories etc helped me by providing >clues that she did not realize she knew. After listing >to her that day and watching the video that night I >wished I had asked more questions about my dad's and >my grandmother's life when they were alive. >My generation does not write letters anymore. The only >letters my family has is just a couple from my dad and >uncle during WWII. I stopped when I married the girl I >was writing. >I hope that some of you will take the time to write >these memories and stories down and add them to your >family history files. >I know I am going to try to start this evening by >opening a word document and try a write a couple of >sentences every night. >Even I have a few stories that my future grandchildren >or great grandchildren might enjoy reading. >I am also going to put into words the stuff I remember >about my dad and grandmother for the future family >historian that go beyond just dates. > >Thanks to everyone who gently reminded me of what I >said to myself several years ago that I was going to >do but everything else got in the way. > >Have a great weekend >Don W > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Outstanding post. Thanks for sharing your insights. We all need to be reminded to dig deeper especially when searching online! It is very easy to go to a page referencing the individual we are seeking and then overlook many other historical clues in the same source. Kate Johnson Denver, Colorado

Hi Laurie - And thank you back for your nice e-mail. I'll let everyone know how the phone call to my father's second wife goes or doesn't go. She should have received my letter Wednesday, so she's had two days to digest it. Will she hang up on me? I'm guessing there's a 50/50 chance she will ! Diane **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

All, Maybe that is why furniture was made so well, because if you had to move it, it needed to withstand the riggers of the move. Bill Ruth Madar <[email protected]> Sent by: [email protected] 02/07/2008 03:18 PM Please respond to [email protected] To [email protected] cc Subject Re: [NYERIE] old time traveling Grace, About the furniture. I'm almost positive that when my Montroys came from Saginaw, Michigan to Buffalo they brought their furniture as I have a photo of them living in a large (very large) tent and the furniture is in the background. My Montroys were in the furniture business in Saginaw. I asked (NYERIE) how they would do this during the 1890's. I was told they brought the furniture in wagons or boats when crossing water. I'd be happy to hear more in put about people traveling during that time period. Ruth At 09:53 AM 2/7/2008 -0500, you wrote: >Ruth - > >I have wondered the same thing. My grandfather left Avon in Livingston Co., >went to PA then to several cities in MI from the 1870s through the early >1900s. No U-Hauls, moving companies, etc. Did they just leave their >furniture when they left one place for another?? You're right - we've been >spoiled. > >Grace >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:57 PM >Subject: Re: [NYERIE] food > > > > Betty, > > I often think how I could never have come from Brooklyn, Ontario, Canada > > to > > Saginaw, Mi. then to Buffalo in the 1880's-1890's. Leaving Canada with 3 > > children, then going to Buffalo with SIX. I don't think so!! We come > > from > > tough stock. We've been spoiled! > > Ruth > > > > At 09:25 AM 2/6/2008 -0600, you wrote: > > > >>Enjoyed all the comments about Buffalo food. Always enjoy it when I > >>return for a visit. We have to give our thanks to all of our very brave > >>ancestors who were willing to endure so much just to come to our > >>beautiful country. How great it is that America has so much different > >>weather and scenery. We need to remember how very difficult it was for > >>our ancestors to travel and settle different parts of our country. I find > >>their strength amazing. Wonder how many of us would do what they did. > >> > >>Still researching Pesch, Karn, Leo, Albrecht, Danebrock. > >> > >>Have a good day > >>Betty > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of the original message.

Hi Lois - Yes, yes, yes it was Doris Shearer. You're a sweetheart for looking her up for me. She was a wonderful person and helped me through a rough time. I eventually quit the teaching profession, I was much too shy back then to be a leader of anybody! I remember being awed by the school, their resources, and how big it seemed. The teaching was very different from how I was taught - the students had a say in everything that went on in the classroom and as I said in my last e-mail, it was very progressive and it impressed the heck out of me. Thanks again Lois. Diane **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

3 of my 4 children attended Williamsville North in the late 70's-early 80s and at that time the school district was ranked 10th in NY State. My oldest son entered college as a second semester freshman due to advanced placement courses offered. We moved to Ohio after my daughter graduated and I can't say the same for the school district we were in there. Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Williamsville school information from 1961 -- 1971 > Hi Lois - > > I don't have what you're looking for but I student taught at Williamsville > North in the late sixties. I had an English teacher I just loved. Her > frst > name was Delores and can't remember her last name. Any chance you could > take a > look for me? I loved that school. I remember it as being very > progressive > for that time. A "Summerhill" of the US. > > Diane > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for information on the Bailey brothers of Boston, hamburg, east hamburg around 1825-1828 time frame. These brothers of William and David came from Ireland to the New York area. David came in 1825 and William and family in 1828. How did they get to USA on which ship and when. Looking for their birth place in Ireland and if other family members are still inIreland. Thanks Gerry [email protected] wrote: What kind of notes would you like and from which classes? I am one of the Family History Consultants in the Ward and will participating in the seminar. Nan **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would that have been Miss Dolores Saloh? Her picture shows a dark haired (shoulder length), small slim stature. She is the only teacher with the first name of Dolores, but her picture is among Math teachers. There is a Mrs. Doris Shearer in the English department. This is a 1971 book for Williamsville North. Yes, I loved the school as well. I wanted so much to be involved with the theatrical and musical parts of the school. They had the Thurber Carnival, "Genesis of Williamsville North", and "Hello Dolly" for their productions that year. I will never forget the talent that year I attended. When the certain song comes on the radio I think of the Talent show I attended in the small theater room (where they also had study halls, so I am thinking that they were rehearsing in there. I don't remember ever attending any of the actual productions. My family was not into that and they always claimed to be poor. Another thing I thought was awesome was the aquatics club and I also would have wanted to have taken Latin classes, but..... Let me know if the name is correct. Lois Lane (On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:08:54 EST [email protected] writes: Hi Lois - I don't have what you're looking for but I student taught at Williamsville North in the late sixties. I had an English teacher I just loved. Her frst name was Delores and can't remember her last name. Any chance you could take a look for me? I loved that school. I remember it as being very progressive for that time. A "Summerhill" of the US. Diane

Seems to me right now we are sending more e-mails criticizing other members mailings and still cluttering up mail boxes. I am sure there are quite a few members so comments from just a few makes a lot of e-mail. Sorry here I am cluttering up mail boxes as everyone else. Betty

I have studied Westminister House quite a bit, because my great grandfather, August Wilhelm Erhardt Kellermann, worked their as a janitor around 1912. He lived right across the street at 426 Monroe. I have several pictures of "Westy" as it was often called from my friend Rich Schweigler. Westminister House was an immigrant settlement house, similar to those founded in Chicago? by Jane Addams. It was a community center founded in the 1800s to help immigrants find work, learn skills, and meet their social needs. It was a combination food kitchen, kindergarten, library, recreation center, etc. When August came to America in 1893, he ended up renting a room across the street from Westy at 432 Monroe. Later, he married widow Julia Schauf Gantzer at 426 Monroe. It is quite possible that the folks at Westy helped him find the place to rent, and the job with lumber man Mr. Klee from whom he rented. I don't know the history of the public library and public school systems in Buffalo, but chances are that Westy, situtated on the Old East Side, in a predominately German neighborhood, had books in both German and English, and probably had English lessons. They also had a choir if I remember correctly. If anyone wants pictures of Westminister House, please let me know. I have pictures of the activities as well as the buildings. Sharon Centanne D S wrote: >Hi to all, > >Anyway - the point of this message - 1927 Buffalo City Directory > >1) I found a front listing for WESTMINSTER HOUSE. This is something >I'd been searching for more info about - as I have a vintage photo of >my grandmother (Nora WITT) with several other women there - all lined >up in those old bathing suits - circa 1919-1921. near a huge swimming >pool. I've heard the "family story" that she worked on projects there >to send to soldiers? My thought was that it was a place where >eastside Germans could go (settlement house) to get help, information, >support - or volunteer to give same. Anyone know? > >The listing was in a section called "Charitable, Religious Societies >and Associations". >On page 25 (image 24) it says: << Westminster House - a Social >Settlement; 424 Adams and 421 Monroe. Head Resident: Mrs Ida >Grumiaux >> > >I didn't have this when looking at those huge Sanborn maps - so now >need to pull out my digital photos and get my bearings for where this >is - in relation to their church (see #3 below) and where their house >was located - at 191 Sherman Street. > > > >Deb > > > > >

What kind of notes would you like and from which classes? I am one of the Family History Consultants in the Ward and will participating in the seminar. Nan **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

Hi Lois - I don't have what you're looking for but I student taught at Williamsville North in the late sixties. I had an English teacher I just loved. Her frst name was Delores and can't remember her last name. Any chance you could take a look for me? I loved that school. I remember it as being very progressive for that time. A "Summerhill" of the US. Diane **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

I attended St Gregory the Great from 1961-1965 Maple East from 1965-1968 and Mill Middle School from 1968-1970 and Williamsville North 1970-1971 (I have this yearbook) I would be interested in any kind of yearbook type of information from those schools during that era. If anyone has or knows anything that is available for research, I would be interested in getting in touch with you. I don't know if they had yearbooks for the grade schools during that time, but it is worth a try. I just know that we could never afford them when growing up, so none were purchased. I would like info to fill up a memorabilia book of my childhood for my family history project. Lois (Batt) Lane Franklinville, NY

You're a tease - I could go on and on about department stores now that we've exhausted the food department but I won't 'cause I don't want to get kicked off this list. But I'm dying to mention a few....two?? Okay, I won't. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

I know this is off the subject but I have enjoyed the talk of food. I have not lived in New York State since 1940 and at that time my taste in food was more to baby food so it is interesting to read about it. I will try to make some of that candy. Jann Whalen Parks Numbers 6:24-26 ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Brenzel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] sponge candy > So sorry! My apologies for continuing non-genealogy discussions about > food. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of M. Brenzel > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] sponge candy > > > Yes, you can buy sponge candy at Tops, but why would you want to? You > have to go to a chocolate shop to get really exceptional sponge candy. > My research on the web found that the origin of sponge candy is kind of > hazy. It is suggested to have been the creation of Joseph Fowler who > was visiting Buffalo for the Pan Am Exposition in 1901 and decided to > stay. > > If you really want a treat, try orange chocolate sponge candy. Those of > us from North Tonawanda know that orange chocolate was the "invention" > of Carl Platter (http://www.platterschocolates.com/aboutus.asp). Only > the best will do! > > Mary > North Tonawanda, NY > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Lois J Lane > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] sponge candy > > > My daughter made sponge candy one time. I know there was a > mixture of stuff that included Baking soda put into a cookie sheet to > cool (and rise) that was cut into squares and then dipped into milk > chocolate. You can buy it not with other kinds of chocolate. It was > on sale last week at TOPS for $2.99 a pound (regularly $4.99/lb). I'm > sure there has to be a recipe out there somewhere. > > Lois > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 1:09:13 -0500 <[email protected]> writes: >> chocolate covered 2 inch squares with inside like sponge or like the >> inside of malt balls. It's usually expensive but available. >> >> kevin >> ---- Linda Lathrop <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ============= >> Sponge Candy??? Never heard of it. >> I'll have to ask my hubby if they had it in Chicago. >> But he is snoring on the couch so I'll have to ask him later. LOL But >> can you explain what sponge candy is? Linda >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Cynthia Van Ness >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] weather >> >> >> Lots of people think sponge candy is unique to Buffalo but last >> fall I saw it for sale in a candy shop in downtown St. Paul, MN. >> >> Wikipedia calls it sponge toffee and lists other places where it >> is popular: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponge_candy >> >> --- [email protected] wrote: >> >> > >> > In a message dated 2/5/2008 10:11:09 P.M. Eastern Standard >> > Time, >> > [email protected] writes: >> > >> > Beef on Weck, Buffalo >> > >> > >> > Linda >> > Was sponge candy one of the ones he couldn't get? >> > people in new york city have not heard of sponge candy >> > >> > >> > >> > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on >> > AOL Music. >> > >> >> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003 > 0 > 00000025 >> > 48) >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* >> Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com >> http://www.BuffaloResearch.com >> >> "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. > >> City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other >> people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a >> hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the >> collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. 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LaurieG and others who participated, You didn't offend me and I don't think anyone needs to apologize for what we were posting. AFter all, it is just an email list. In the scheme of the world, what does it matter if for two days a bunch of people from all over the country talked about their youth and where they lived and foods they liked. It didn't cause anything bad to happen. The world didn't end. I am new to this list and I enjoyed it. Cheers to all, Linda Hooker Lathrop ----- Original Message ----- From: LAURIE To: NYERIE Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: [NYERIE] Off Topic and Screen Clutter I apologize for my participation on the Beef on weck subject. I also apologize if my quest for information on Early Women's Organizations was off topic. Although, again I thank everyone that replied, it was very helpful. I started genealogy many years ago and knew it was dates and birth,death,marriage and cemeteries and interviews with relatives. In recent years with our own family website, we have learned and remembered so much about family recipes and tradtions.(italian cookies, holiday sauce, wine etc.) So for me genealogy IS about the dates and cemeteries and research but it is also preserving memories and recipes and food tradtions. I am Sicilian.Polish,German and Dutch. I cannot imagine my own "background" without including food and memories. The recent discussions on this list have ignited alot of memories for me and I have been writing my own memories down to include in the family album. When I interviews relatives, food ALWAYS comes in at some point.All the places we have mentioned recently ARE part of NY/ERIE history. This list has been very quiet for awhile now and it has been a pleasure to see all the posts. And as Sharon has said (posted below), and what I have learned from this list and others, if a topic does not interest me I just hit DELETE. I agree with Sharon's comments below. I apologize again and did not intend to "offend" any other genealogists or the list owner. I will keep "shut". LaurieG from Sharon: I really think that any history topic on this mailing lists may be of help to someone. We know that everyone isn't going to get all their answers from any mailing list but the history people have been sharing is GREAT! I have enjoyed it, otherwise this list has been dull lately. Everyone is a walking Library and the walk down memory lane is the BEST besides someone may say " hey, my family members last name was (such and such) never know when one may make a connection and that is what we are all trying to do. If those that don't want to read it and don't enjoy it please use your delete button. I have LOVE it. Sharon ----- Original Message Reseaarching: Amico,Asciutto,Arico,Galbo,Giambrone,Mistretta,Frisa, Ortalano,Lazarra, Van Ausdale,(Van Oesdale,Vanosdale,Van Arsdale, Van Arsdalen) Hartman,Mikuszewski,Szulc. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How long are we going to do THIS now? And how does it help me to find my family? I'm leaving town tomorrow and I hate to think of what my e-mail will look like when I get home! It'll be a job, I'm sure! -----Original >Ditto for me Sharon. I couldn't agree more and it's especially enjoyable >for those of us who have left Buffalo for other parts. I, too, have thoroughly >enjoyed the memories associated with all the food we've talked about the >past few days. Thank you to all! > >Diane > > > >**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. >(http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 >48) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

No, no Laurie, don't keep quiet. I've enjoyed your posts. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)