If Erie County is like a lot of other places in the USA, addresses were changed in the early 1900's. Some counties that I have worked in changed about 1915. So, "1644 street name" became "1678 street name", for example. You would have to know IF they changed, WHEN they changed and WHAT the new numbers were. Sanborn maps around the time of the change were known to record both the old number and the new number. Just some other little issue to have to deal with. ----- Original Message ---- From: D S <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:01:52 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Help with street address Kate: > I found the following information at the Erie County Real Property Tax > Services website http://www.erie.gov/depts/finance/webprop/index.asp -->> Wow! Thanks for the link and the great idea in general, Kate. :) I just spent some time there - putting in street addresses I have from Buffalo City directories circa 19-teens and 1920s "just to see". The house where my gr-grandparents lived from 1900 or so forward at 191 Sherman Street (that I found on those Sanborn maps) didn't bring up anything. Since the history pages I found for other pages went back to the 1970s at the latest - perhaps that house/building is simply gone now? Went back and did same for next generation street addresses and for address where my gr-grandparents lived in the 1880s/1890s. In the latter case, the house at that address now was built in the 1920s. (So I know if I visit again - and went there to take a photo - it's not their house! lol) Have same question re: "before 1970s" in this database. Tried another way - and put in surnames only of those any of the females married from my main line. Found possiblities for current "cousins" and in one case, found one I know is related but have never met or contacted. Just know the name. So have an address to write now. No time at the moment, but can see I'll need to do some rummaging around at other county (or town) sites for property tax databases. Thanks for the heads up, Kate! :) Deb (in rainy and windy northern California) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Kate: > I found the following information at the Erie County Real Property Tax > Services website http://www.erie.gov/depts/finance/webprop/index.asp -->> Wow! Thanks for the link and the great idea in general, Kate. :) I just spent some time there - putting in street addresses I have from Buffalo City directories circa 19-teens and 1920s "just to see". The house where my gr-grandparents lived from 1900 or so forward at 191 Sherman Street (that I found on those Sanborn maps) didn't bring up anything. Since the history pages I found for other pages went back to the 1970s at the latest - perhaps that house/building is simply gone now? Went back and did same for next generation street addresses and for address where my gr-grandparents lived in the 1880s/1890s. In the latter case, the house at that address now was built in the 1920s. (So I know if I visit again - and went there to take a photo - it's not their house! lol) Have same question re: "before 1970s" in this database. Tried another way - and put in surnames only of those any of the females married from my main line. Found possiblities for current "cousins" and in one case, found one I know is related but have never met or contacted. Just know the name. So have an address to write now. No time at the moment, but can see I'll need to do some rummaging around at other county (or town) sites for property tax databases. Thanks for the heads up, Kate! :) Deb (in rainy and windy northern California)

Paul, et. al.~ In response to: > Looking for help - I recently found a street address of 90 Catherine St , > Williamsville NY on passenger ship records in 1957 . What i am looking for is > to find out who lived at that address at that time . so if anyone has any > sources to find that out that would be great . Thanks again Paul/Atlanta > After using Google Maps to locate the address near the Westwood Country Club and North Forest Road, I dug around for tax info. I found the following information at the Erie County Real Property Tax Services website [ http://www.erie.gov/depts/finance/webprop/index.asp ]. Perhaps someone on the list will know if this database includes all owners and if not, how to easily locate this 1957 owner in the "books"! Owner ROBINSON CHARLES L & W Book-Page/Date 6716-279 * 10/11/1961 * Owner SCHAEFER ROBERT J JR Book-Page/Date 8979-552 * 1/15/1981 * Owner LEBERER ANN MARIE Book-Page/Date 10138-453 * 2/9/1990 * Owner SCHAEFER ROBERT J JR&ANN Book-Page/Date 10482-537 * 7/24/1992 * Real Property Information Parcel Status ACTIVE City\Town Amherst Village S-B-L 68.07-3-30 Owner SCHAEFER ROBERT J JR & Property Location 90 CATHERINE ST Mailing Address SCHAEFER ANN L H/W Property Class 210 1 FAMILY RES Line 2 Assessment 161000 Line 3 Taxable 161000 Street 90 CATHERINE ST Desc 899 PT 7 City/State WILLIAMSVILLE NY Desc Zip 14221 Deed Book 10482 Deed Page 00537 Frontage 65 Depth 357.14 Acres 0 Year Built 1943 Square Ft 2775 Beds 4 Baths 3 FirePlace 1 School WILLIAMSVILLE CENTRA Hope this helps. Happy Hunting. Kate Johnson Denver, Colorado Sunny and already 52 degrees!

I have been researching the HOLDEN family lines and we were able to trace a few yrs ago one of its members from St Helens Lancashire England to Buffalo New York . This is the family of Christiana Holden nee Brew. Christiana was a widow in the 1850s that took her semi adult children from St Helens to live in Buffalo New York. One of her daughters Elizabeth Holden br 1837 married a James Michael Cass br 1838 England in Buffalo in Jan of 1868. James and Elizabeth had 4 children Wm, Freddy, John and Mary Rebecca Cass. James and his family were stone cutters / Master masons from England that came to New York and settled in Buffalo in the 1850s. I found long ago a Paul Schifferli who was also searching for info on the same Cass family and posted querys on them . I however found out that Paul died a few years ago not finding out some very impt info on Michael and his son James Cass. When and where they died. I talked last yr with his cousin who verified all Pauls research on the Cass family and told him I would try and see if I could find out what Paul wanted to know as this info pertains to my Holden lines as well. Paul was able to get some info that is somewhat of a mystery to all of us I will quote some of Pauls query re it I am trying to locate the burial sites for: William S. Cass, James M. Cass, Frederic Cass, Mary Cass. [Freddy and Mary I was able to trace to Denver Colorado in the 1900 census so they went from Kansas to Co via census info ] I do not know where or when William S. died. He was a Master Mason who built the addition to St. Paul's Church in Buffalo, NY in the 1870's. See notes from The History of St. Paul's Church, Buffalo NY 1817 to 1888 by Charles W. Evans. "The cutting and laying of the stone is in charge of Mr. William S. Cass. Mr. Cass has had great experience in English Cathedrals and Churches, superintending in 1835 the rehanging of Big Tom, of Lincoln; and he has built Gothic stone Churches at Haynton and at Easton, in Lincolnshire." The name CASS is inscribed in the stone spire of the addition. William S. is listed in the Buffalo City Directory from 1865 through 1876. The directory also has a listing for a firm William S. Cass & Co. in 1871 and a listing for Cass & Sons in 1873. William S. is listed for the last timeas Sexton at St. Paul's Church in 1876. Note that sons James M. and Frederic are listed for the last time in 1877. William and his sons James and Frederic apparently left Buffalo ca. 1876-77. None are buried in Buffalo. [ However Michaels wife Rebecca and James wife Elizabeth are buried in Forest Lawn Cemetery in Buffalo and the Cass family continued to live in Buffalo down to this day] Michael Cass's daughter Mary married and lived on a farm in Kansas and wrote a letter to her brother Wm Cass that ended with The letter closes, " poor Jim dying away from all of us but thank God he did not realize it was death." This would have been James M. Cass. A aritlce on James M Cass's daughter Mary R Cass [ General Manager of F N Burt Ltd for 24 years in Buffalo stated that her father died in 1878. Nothing more tho. I have kept Pauls post on the Cass's for years and searched for something on Michael and son James Cass and come up empty. I was wondering if the newspapers in Buffalo back then would make mention of their deaths ? If so does the library there in Buffalo do searches for mentions of either one not knowing the death yr ? If not is there a know researcher there in Buffalo who I could contact to do a search of the papers to see if there is mention. I do not live in New York and cannot get there to do my own searching. If anyone can suggest anything I will be very greatful for the advice and help. I know that Paul now knows the answers to what he was looking for but I wish he could share them with me <G Thank you Sharon swtx

Looking for help - I recently found a street address of 90 Catherine St , Williamsville NY on passenger ship records in 1957 . What i am looking for is to find out who lived at that address at that time . so if anyone has any sources to find that out that would be great . Thanks again Paul/Atlanta **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Found this today, the map covers the 8 counties of western new york http://www.buffalonews.com/280/story/249239.html http://www.buffalo.com/specialprojects/parishweb/buffalo.htm# Regards, Sheila

I work on the basis that family history is about who the people were, not just names and dates. So really anything you can write about them helps to round them out as real people. You wouldn't be able to record my confirmation, as religion isn't big in my life, which makes me different from my gt grandfather, who was a lay preacher in the Methodist church. Similarly with ailments, someone with heart problems isn't likely to have been a weekend mountaineer. It's all grist for the mill, in my book! Cheers, Liz Davies Always looking for LOCKING ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:16 AM Subject: [NYERIE] Record keeping on Family Members- Help-need a opinion >I am starting to get everything together and fill in a profile sheet for > each individual in my family tree , Right now I am filling in the blanks for the > First & Second and 3rd generation in States who are aIl deceased . I was > wondering if I should include Holy Communion and Confirmation information ... > Also do you think when i do my living 3rd,4th and 5th generation profile > sheet ( 4th would my generation) to ask a question of Known Medical Conditions > ..such as High blood pressure and other aliments that could be passed thru > the families .. On the deceased family members i have indicated the cause of > death that was indicated on the death record & Burial record ,, but was > wondering if I should ask the living if they have any known medical conditions , > Cuz from the causes of death & young ages . it dont look good for me Yikes .. > Thanks ..Paul > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks for the link .. i see several thing i could use .. I like the Time Capsule and the Family tradition one .. I of would never of thought adding that ...You get so tied up looking for records that you forget about adding the simple things that our family 100 years from now would enjoy reading the most about us ..I am starting to think I have invented a my own soundex from searching .. I have found my last names so butchered up .. they had to be drunk when they wrote the information down or they were thinking about us looking for them 100 years later , lets confuse even more ... Thanks again **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

On My Profile sheet ,, I am keeping track of it it sections Birth, Christening, Holy Communion, Confirmation ,Marriage, Death , Will records , Known Street Address (census) Occupations ,Employers , Ship records, Naturalization records, Military information , Grammar School , High School College Hobbies and medical conditions ...with source included of where i found it or who gave me the information .. i wasn't to sure about the Holy Communion and Confirmation but i think ill include it ,, I might find a photo of the occasion ...Thanks you changed my mind :) Also on the Kin that are deceased i have it noted if they smoked or drank and if they drove a car .. Funny thing is i found two fortune tellers in the family .. Thanks again for your help ..Paul **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

I am starting to get everything together and fill in a profile sheet for each individual in my family tree , Right now I am filling in the blanks for the First & Second and 3rd generation in States who are aIl deceased . I was wondering if I should include Holy Communion and Confirmation information ... Also do you think when i do my living 3rd,4th and 5th generation profile sheet ( 4th would my generation) to ask a question of Known Medical Conditions ..such as High blood pressure and other aliments that could be passed thru the families .. On the deceased family members i have indicated the cause of death that was indicated on the death record & Burial record ,, but was wondering if I should ask the living if they have any known medical conditions , Cuz from the causes of death & young ages . it dont look good for me Yikes .. Thanks ..Paul **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Those of you who don't use a genealogy software program for record-keeping might like some of these free downloadable forms: http://www.familytreemagazine.com/forms/download.html --- [email protected] wrote: > On My Profile sheet ,, I am keeping track of it it sections > Birth, > Christening, Holy Communion, Confirmation ,Marriage, Death , > Will records , Known > Street Address (census) Occupations ,Employers , Ship > records, Naturalization > records, Military information , Grammar School , High School > College Hobbies > and medical conditions ...with source included of where i > found it or who > gave me the information .. i wasn't to sure about the Holy > Communion and > Confirmation but i think ill include it ,, I might find a > photo of the occasion > ...Thanks you changed my mind :) Also on the Kin that are > deceased i have it > noted if they smoked or drank and if they drove a car .. > Funny thing is i found > two fortune tellers in the family .. Thanks again for your > help ..Paul > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL > Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

I am not quite sure I know what you mean, a profile sheet, but, many of us record every detail we can get, including confirmations, etc. I don't think it is stamped in gold anywhere what you should record or not, I always figure, it is sorta an individual thing, it is my data base, I get to decide if I want to include specific data. If you are doing your research primarily from a medical data point of view, then, I would record what I can. You will find some living souls are ok with telling you about thier afflictions, and others will clam up and not tell a thing. You must honor their decision on whether they care to share. Have fun, good luck on your record keeping. ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:16:47 PM Subject: [NYERIE] Record keeping on Family Members- Help-need a opinion I am starting to get everything together and fill in a profile sheet for each individual in my family tree , Right now I am filling in the blanks for the First & Second and 3rd generation in States who are aIl deceased . I was wondering if I should include Holy Communion and Confirmation information ... Also do you think when i do my living 3rd,4th and 5th generation profile sheet ( 4th would my generation) to ask a question of Known Medical Conditions ..such as High blood pressure and other aliments that could be passed thru the families .. On the deceased family members i have indicated the cause of death that was indicated on the death record & Burial record ,, but was wondering if I should ask the living if they have any known medical conditions , Cuz from the causes of death & young ages . it dont look good for me Yikes .. Thanks ..Paul **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Dick Rose: I sent you a message requesting your assistance with this on February 8, and I have no record of a reply. Again, respectfully, aren't you the sheriff in town? This is like vigilante list administration. Mak (besides, everyone knows Beef on Weck was not Buffalo's great contribution to world culture, chicken wings are. :-) On Feb 19, 2008 4:41 AM, D S <[email protected]> wrote: > This is "off topic" since it's about how/where it's appropriate to > talk of non-Buffalo non-"strictly" genealogy topics. Didn't chime in > during earlier discussion so I've given a heads-up here - will give > some thoughts in general - then some online options - then clear out > of Dodge on the topic! :) > > 1) To me, "contextual history" is important for "putting flesh on the > bones" of our ancestors - and on ourselves for that matter, for those > who come after us. Certainly "on topic" for our heritage interests in > general. > > 2) The question is - where is it appropriate to meet up with others > of like mind and do that. It comes up now and again on most lists and > in most groups. That's why there are list/group FAQs and on/off topic > guidelines - and we make decisions about which we want to join. It's > also why other groups come along - to widen our options - and keep > each one "on topic" for what it is. Someone already pointed to the > Niagara Co genealogy list vs the "folks" one. Both are valid. Both > are now "on topic" for their stated purposes. > > 3) There's always a "bit" of wiggle room - or likely better said - > some personal judgement - when "local history" or "locality culture" > is the topic. Probably talking "in general" might be off topic for a > genealogy list - but tied to an ancestor and needing help/resources to > find more research sources would be "on topic". Talking very loosely > here. :) Talk of candy stores in Buffalo "in general" vs talking of > the store one's gr-grandfather owned and looking for business license > info, pictures, etc for example. Certainly the 2nd one is ok for a > genealogy list - locality specific occupation/business. The 1st is > likely better on a general locality list or group. > > 4) Luckily, we have lots of options! The world isn't black and > white. We can do "this" with those people in that place - and "that" > with those people in that place. Our cyberhighway has lots of road > signs up. Surname, locality, topic lists abound on Rootsweb - and > that's not counting other places like GenForum - or any of the > "groups" out there at yahoogroups or MSN or Google. Then, there are > all the social networking communities. > > 5) Ok - not to worry - I'll wrap this up now - ending with some ideas > and urls. (Then, I'll stop being "off topic" and get back to Erie > County, NY genealogy!! > > a) NYERIE list at Rootsweb - for Erie Co, NY genealogy - no need to > elaborate. :) > b) If you're looking to meet up with others about "the old days" - > life stories - memories - history - in ANY locality - in ANY timeframe > - then I found four Rootsweb lists that could work. All - like this > list - are "public lists" - so open to search engines, etc. For > genealogy, we probably want that as it might help with a "cousin > connection". For personal or family life stories, memories, local > history and the like .. we may or may not. The Rootsweb options I > found are: > ----- NOSTALGIA - more recent posts in the Rootweb Archives are back > in Jan of 2007. Not real active. > ---- BACKTOTHEPAST - still active - with high of 341 msgs/month back > in March 06. Now running at 10 to 35 or so msgs per month. > ---- HOMESPUN - still active. Was running in the few hundred/month > range, then hit 1781/month recently - so may be changing as we speak > to high volume > ---- MEMORY-LANE - still active. Very high volume. Posts per month > for Nov, Dec, Jan were 2077, 2163 and 2759 respectively > c) At the risk of "promoting" something I'm involved with - I'll tell > you about a yahoogroup I joined in 2004. Got involved, then moderated > - and now have owned for awhile. It's a mix of genealogy, heritage > scrapbooking, writing/journaling, preservation of family treasures, > local history, oral history, organizing, family recipes, and such. > Could find talk of where to find records to search - how to make a > family history slideshow - what questions to ask a grandparent while > recording - the history of a country or small town or of daily living > inventions - how to use timelines or scanners or safely preserve that > heritage quilt. It's a private membership vs public group so people > can more freely share "life memories" or talk of how to get gr-aunt > so-and-so to allow access to her box of photos or papers. Small group > of 220+ members right now. You can find it at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Preserving_Our_Heritage > d) Speaking of yahoogroups, I'll end by adding a few stars to > Cynthia's post about her BuffaloHistory yahoogroup. If you want to > immerse yourself in "all things Buffalo"? And, find others who love > to do the same? Go for it! Lots of memories. Lots of topics. So, > if you're passionate about the locality and want a mix of all sorts of > topics - in lively fashion? Head to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuffaloHistory Pretty enthusiastic > crowd there. :) > > Ok - thats it. Back to Erie County genealogy again. > > Deb > > On Feb 18, 2008 6:43 AM, Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> wrote: > > Instead of trying to stretch a Buffalo genealogy list to be all > > Buffalo things to all Buffalo people, may I humbly suggest that > > people who want to talk about non-genealogy matters simply go > > where these things are already on topic, and, I might add, > > wildly popular? > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuffaloHistory/ > > > > > > --- Linda Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The point is not if someone enjoys a post or not. I have > > > enjoyed some of the posts, but the point is this is a list on > genealogy,<< > > > > > > At the risk of adding more 'clutter' to this mail list - > > > I want to offer an idea from another list that I belong to. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- +1(310) 856-9885 skype: mcintire.allen

Hi, tried to subscribe to this page, no luck What am I doing wrong?? Marge

The short route to the Erie County newspaper abstracts is: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php?action=displaycat&catid=635 It is search-able. Anyone can post abstracts of newspaper articles. It only has a little over 1000 articles to date since it is all volunteer work. The main page is at: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/index.php >From there you can look around the US, Canada and other parts of the world. Don W --- D S <[email protected]> wrote: > Seems each day brings something new to learn. I'm > subscribed to > NEWSPAPER-ABSTRACTS at Rootsweb. I get the digest > version, so I can > easily scan down to see if any of my family research > localities have > new transcriptions in that batch. > > One such article - for Buffalo, NY - is this one at: > http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?id=54357 > > It's dated 25 Oct 1935 and is about Surrogate Court > items listed in > the "Buffalo Daily Law Review" > > It goes on to list several court activities (each > with individuals > NAMES) .. such as wills, "show cause", settlements, > etc. > > Now - you may already be familiar with this > particular newspaper, but > I'm thinking - since I've been unsuccessful finding > probate records > for my Ernst WITT in Buffalo - perhaps he will "turn > up" in one of > these newspaper transcripts - under activities at > teh Surrogate Court! > So - a new avenue to explore. :) > > Ernst WITT died on 8 Oct 1928, so hoping if this > legal paper was > around in Buffalo in 1935, "perhaps" it was around > earlier? Like - > 1928? > > I recently learned (in Jan/Feb issue of > "Genealogical Helper" > magazine) of three PDF files that are freely > downloadable from the > Library of Congress that list all the newspapers > that have been > microfilmed. With that (titles, localities, dates) > - it's easier to > then see about repositories, archives, familysearch, > etc that may have > microfilmed copies - and which might be digitized, > indexed , > transcribed and hosted "somewhere". Need the basic > info of what's out > there as the starting point though. > > So will end with two urls again. (Getting into a > habit here!) lol > > 1) To get those newspaper PDF files (then look at > NY - Erie Co - > Buffalo - etc) - go to: > http://www.loc.gov/rr/news/news_research_tools/newspapersinmf.html > > 2) If you want to stroll through newspaper > transcriptions for Erie > Co, NY out at Newspaper Archives - go to: > http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?id=54357 > > For me? I need to explore this "Buffalo Daily Law > Review". Maybe my > Ernst WITT will turn up!! > > Deb > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

Excellent heads up, D.S.! I forwarded widely. --- D S <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi to all - an FYI this round. > > This is really for those of you who are "locals" in Buffalo > and > thereabouts. Have you heard about StoryCorps? One of their > traveling > mobile vans will be in Buffalo, NY from July 17 - Aug 23. > > If you're interested, this is a way to freely and > professionally tell > some of your life stories - interview style - for about 40 > minutes. > Could be about a topic or theme in your life. Could be about > the local > history of Buffalo and what you think/feel about it. You can > arrange > to bring someone you want to interview - or someone you want > to have > interview you. You'll come away with a CD of the recording. > A copy > of the audio interview is also housed at the Library of > Congress. > StoryCorps has been going on for some time now and you can > listen to > some of the completed interviews to get an idea of what > they're like. > > Here are some helpful urls at StoryCorps if you want to know > more about it. > > Three steps to record your story: > http://www.storycorps.net/record-your-story > > What to Expect: > http://www.storycorps.net/record-your-story/what-to-expect > > Interactive exercise to generate interview questions: > http://www.storycorps.net/record-your-story/question-generator > > Or look through a long list of possible questions - organized > in topic > clusters - as is - or to get ideas > http://www.storycorps.net/record-your-story/question-generator/list > > Here's a link to the original press release - back in 2003 - > from the > American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress - the > folks who > are archiving all the audio interviews: > http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2003/03-168.html > > Since the mobile vans are traveling from city to city - you > can keep > up with their location schedules at: > http://www.storycorps.net/record-your-story/locations > > Since it'll be in Buffalo this coming July-Aug - thought I'd > give > folks here a heads up - in case you want to participate - or > find > people you think would be great to interview. If you're on > this list, > but live elsewhere - take a gander to see if a van is going to > be in > your neck of the woods sometime this year. > > If you do none of the above? At the very least - you can get > some > great interview questions you can use for your own oral > history > project - personal, family or community. Or, you can head to > the LOC > to listen to some of the stories already recorded. > > To me? This is a modern equivalent of all those great WPA > interviews. :) > > Deb > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

--- D S <[email protected]> helpfully wrote: [snip] > So will end with two urls again. (Getting into a habit here!) > lol > > 1) To get those newspaper PDF files (then look at NY - Erie > Co - > Buffalo - etc) - go to: > http://www.loc.gov/rr/news/news_research_tools/newspapersinmf.html I love it when people drill deeper into the Library of Congress website beyond American Memory. :) To this handy source, I just wanted to tack on my favorite, which tells you who owns what Erie County newspapers and loads a little faster: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/all/415.htm *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Seems each day brings something new to learn. I'm subscribed to NEWSPAPER-ABSTRACTS at Rootsweb. I get the digest version, so I can easily scan down to see if any of my family research localities have new transcriptions in that batch. One such article - for Buffalo, NY - is this one at: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?id=54357 It's dated 25 Oct 1935 and is about Surrogate Court items listed in the "Buffalo Daily Law Review" It goes on to list several court activities (each with individuals NAMES) .. such as wills, "show cause", settlements, etc. Now - you may already be familiar with this particular newspaper, but I'm thinking - since I've been unsuccessful finding probate records for my Ernst WITT in Buffalo - perhaps he will "turn up" in one of these newspaper transcripts - under activities at teh Surrogate Court! So - a new avenue to explore. :) Ernst WITT died on 8 Oct 1928, so hoping if this legal paper was around in Buffalo in 1935, "perhaps" it was around earlier? Like - 1928? I recently learned (in Jan/Feb issue of "Genealogical Helper" magazine) of three PDF files that are freely downloadable from the Library of Congress that list all the newspapers that have been microfilmed. With that (titles, localities, dates) - it's easier to then see about repositories, archives, familysearch, etc that may have microfilmed copies - and which might be digitized, indexed , transcribed and hosted "somewhere". Need the basic info of what's out there as the starting point though. So will end with two urls again. (Getting into a habit here!) lol 1) To get those newspaper PDF files (then look at NY - Erie Co - Buffalo - etc) - go to: http://www.loc.gov/rr/news/news_research_tools/newspapersinmf.html 2) If you want to stroll through newspaper transcriptions for Erie Co, NY out at Newspaper Archives - go to: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?id=54357 For me? I need to explore this "Buffalo Daily Law Review". Maybe my Ernst WITT will turn up!! Deb

This is "off topic" since it's about how/where it's appropriate to talk of non-Buffalo non-"strictly" genealogy topics. Didn't chime in during earlier discussion so I've given a heads-up here - will give some thoughts in general - then some online options - then clear out of Dodge on the topic! :) 1) To me, "contextual history" is important for "putting flesh on the bones" of our ancestors - and on ourselves for that matter, for those who come after us. Certainly "on topic" for our heritage interests in general. 2) The question is - where is it appropriate to meet up with others of like mind and do that. It comes up now and again on most lists and in most groups. That's why there are list/group FAQs and on/off topic guidelines - and we make decisions about which we want to join. It's also why other groups come along - to widen our options - and keep each one "on topic" for what it is. Someone already pointed to the Niagara Co genealogy list vs the "folks" one. Both are valid. Both are now "on topic" for their stated purposes. 3) There's always a "bit" of wiggle room - or likely better said - some personal judgement - when "local history" or "locality culture" is the topic. Probably talking "in general" might be off topic for a genealogy list - but tied to an ancestor and needing help/resources to find more research sources would be "on topic". Talking very loosely here. :) Talk of candy stores in Buffalo "in general" vs talking of the store one's gr-grandfather owned and looking for business license info, pictures, etc for example. Certainly the 2nd one is ok for a genealogy list - locality specific occupation/business. The 1st is likely better on a general locality list or group. 4) Luckily, we have lots of options! The world isn't black and white. We can do "this" with those people in that place - and "that" with those people in that place. Our cyberhighway has lots of road signs up. Surname, locality, topic lists abound on Rootsweb - and that's not counting other places like GenForum - or any of the "groups" out there at yahoogroups or MSN or Google. Then, there are all the social networking communities. 5) Ok - not to worry - I'll wrap this up now - ending with some ideas and urls. (Then, I'll stop being "off topic" and get back to Erie County, NY genealogy!! a) NYERIE list at Rootsweb - for Erie Co, NY genealogy - no need to elaborate. :) b) If you're looking to meet up with others about "the old days" - life stories - memories - history - in ANY locality - in ANY timeframe - then I found four Rootsweb lists that could work. All - like this list - are "public lists" - so open to search engines, etc. For genealogy, we probably want that as it might help with a "cousin connection". For personal or family life stories, memories, local history and the like .. we may or may not. The Rootsweb options I found are: ----- NOSTALGIA - more recent posts in the Rootweb Archives are back in Jan of 2007. Not real active. ---- BACKTOTHEPAST - still active - with high of 341 msgs/month back in March 06. Now running at 10 to 35 or so msgs per month. ---- HOMESPUN - still active. Was running in the few hundred/month range, then hit 1781/month recently - so may be changing as we speak to high volume ---- MEMORY-LANE - still active. Very high volume. Posts per month for Nov, Dec, Jan were 2077, 2163 and 2759 respectively c) At the risk of "promoting" something I'm involved with - I'll tell you about a yahoogroup I joined in 2004. Got involved, then moderated - and now have owned for awhile. It's a mix of genealogy, heritage scrapbooking, writing/journaling, preservation of family treasures, local history, oral history, organizing, family recipes, and such. Could find talk of where to find records to search - how to make a family history slideshow - what questions to ask a grandparent while recording - the history of a country or small town or of daily living inventions - how to use timelines or scanners or safely preserve that heritage quilt. It's a private membership vs public group so people can more freely share "life memories" or talk of how to get gr-aunt so-and-so to allow access to her box of photos or papers. Small group of 220+ members right now. You can find it at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Preserving_Our_Heritage d) Speaking of yahoogroups, I'll end by adding a few stars to Cynthia's post about her BuffaloHistory yahoogroup. If you want to immerse yourself in "all things Buffalo"? And, find others who love to do the same? Go for it! Lots of memories. Lots of topics. So, if you're passionate about the locality and want a mix of all sorts of topics - in lively fashion? Head to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuffaloHistory Pretty enthusiastic crowd there. :) Ok - thats it. Back to Erie County genealogy again. Deb On Feb 18, 2008 6:43 AM, Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> wrote: > Instead of trying to stretch a Buffalo genealogy list to be all > Buffalo things to all Buffalo people, may I humbly suggest that > people who want to talk about non-genealogy matters simply go > where these things are already on topic, and, I might add, > wildly popular? > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BuffaloHistory/ > > > --- Linda Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The point is not if someone enjoys a post or not. I have > > enjoyed some of the posts, but the point is this is a list on genealogy,<< > > > > At the risk of adding more 'clutter' to this mail list - > > I want to offer an idea from another list that I belong to.

> The point is not if someone enjoys a post or not. I have enjoyed some of the posts, but the point is this is a list on genealogy,<< At the risk of adding more 'clutter' to this mail list - I want to offer an idea from another list that I belong to. I subscribed to the Sheltie list this past weekend- and the "Rules" when you subscribe look daunting! they are very particular as to the material you send in--however, after re-reading it a couple times, and starting to receive messages, now I can see how it is a very effective system. First, you have to sign up for the topics you want - you can sign up for ALL - or individual topics (for ex., a few includ, behavior, show, breeding, grooming, etc) also, the list admin. has assigned these topics in abbreviated form, so you have to write that in the subject line when you send a message - for ex., BEHA: biting [Behavior: biting] And a BIG help is to write directly to the person whose question you are answering, OFFLINE - privately to them, not everyone cares about certain topics [as per the plenty of emails not wanting to hear about sponge candy ] I'm sending this on so perhaps a similar solution could be found for this list - it would alleviate some problems - if you don't want to talk about local customs/foods, etc., you wouldn't sign up for those topics. Perhaps the Erie co. list admin. can see if it would be do-able. Just an idea. And while I'm here, I'd like to say that a lot of what some people consider non-genealogy related, can be very helpful - it was to me - last year, listers were discussing candy stores of long-ago Buffalo, and I was able to find where some of my family had worked --and it was great to add those pieces to my genealogy-puzzle - it makes the people I never knew more real to me. And besides, sponge candy and beef on wick are part of the western NY culture! Linda