Your posting caught my eye because of the mention of Black Rock. My great-great grandmother emigrated from Ireland to Canada in 1840 but the boat landed at Black Rock which I can't figure out. Do you know anything from long ago about the area. I wonder why the ship went to NY and if passengers were then ferried across the lake and if so why. Was there no port in Ontario large enough for the ships? Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Brenzel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] St. Francis Church on River Road in Buffalo > Are you talking about St. Francis Xavier in Black Rock? It's somewhat > near > River Road. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Charles and Donna Hudson > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYERIE] St. Francis Church on River Road in Buffalo > > My question is 'How many St. Francis Catholic Churches are there in > Buffalo?' > > I'm trying to find the St. Francis Catholic Church located on River Road. > Is this church closed? I believe I have some relatives buried there by > the > name of Barbara and Joseph Ailinger and would like to find out what the > burial records/tombstones say about these two. > > Thanks for your help! > > Donna Hudson > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

All I know about the Black Rock area is that it was the area around the St. Francis church. It was just an area of the city - I thought it was in the city of Buffalo but maybe just north of the city limits. Donna Hudson [email protected] ---------------------------------------------- Webmail is a member service offered by OIP.NET

There is a document published by the Aurora Historical Society titled "Rambles through Aurora" which contains a map from the 1909 atlas. It shows (if I read it correctly) that there is a property owned by an RT Barnett on Main Street one building west of Pine Street. - Gary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CHARLES SIMONS Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:30 AM To: buffalo Subject: [NYERIE] Street maps of East Aurora 1917-1920 wonder if anyone has come across street maps of East Aurora for 1917-1920.. my grandfather had a bakery in EA at that time, and from the EA newspaper I have copy of his ads, but they just say Barnett Block etc.. I was in the EA Historical Society (only open afternoon a week) as that is where we found the ads.. but no street maps for that time period. chuck ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I may have missed it, but did anyone mention "Charlie the Butcher" for Beef on Weck? **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

wonder if anyone has come across street maps of East Aurora for 1917-1920.. my grandfather had a bakery in EA at that time, and from the EA newspaper I have copy of his ads, but they just say Barnett Block etc.. I was in the EA Historical Society (only open afternoon a week) as that is where we found the ads.. but no street maps for that time period. chuck

agree about Schwabls, grew up in West Seneca and stop in for quick lunch when I am back in the area ----- Original Message ----- From: Sara Burkholder<mailto:[email protected]> To: NY Erie<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: [NYERIE] Beef on Weck My favorite spot for Beef on Weck is Schwabls at Union Road and Seneca St.. I love the fact that they slice the beef off a big roast add some au jus on the bun and top it with the crusty, salty remaining bun and voila!!! Best to order a side of German potato salad and some pickled beets as well. This of course must be washed down with a tall cool German type adult beverage. OOOH what I wouldn't give to have one for lunch today. The best part about Schwable's is it's old corner bar ambience and maybe that helps to make the whole "weck" experience. But with all the "weck" discussion which I have enjoyed immensely why could we not do a mini roll call for a week or two with a limit of five names? The names should be in caps and in the subject line. What does the list manager think? Sara Burkholder ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Wegman's in the DC area, out by Dulles I believe have you tried there ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Hall Werner<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Beef on Weck Okay, y'all are KILLING me! I'm down here in Northern Virginia (outside DC), and I seldom get to go back to Buffalo, so I never get to satisfy my beef on weck cravings. (My husband, from N.J., is a convert as well.) But now after all this talk, I can practically TASTE it, but unfortunately, no . . . Janet -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D S Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:02 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Beef on Weck Ooops - think I just sent a blank msg before this one. (Keyboard - not me! lol) Re: beef on weck? When I recently wrote about my visit to the BECPL - think I also told you I had my first beef on weck during my time in NY. Also shared that in the middle of all my tombstone digital photos - there's a photo of my beef on weck sales receipt! Yuuuuuumm. Sure don't have those here in northern California! :) Someone said we were getting off to the side here re: all the food - but I agree that this is part of the "local history" for our Erie County lives or ancestors. May I toss in another thing about the area I wish I had here too? Wegmans grocery stores! I stayed in a motel where I had a mini-refrigerator, a microwave and a wireless connection. What else would I need? lol Stayed in Amherst, so I could do both my Niagara County genealogy and my trips down into Buffalo. Just off the beltway (if you call it that there! lol) so could easily get back to the airport too. Well - got my rations over at Wegmans. A BIG DEAL to make beef on weck there too. Have a couple of photos of the counter and people - slicing the beef, the sign, etc. All part of "being there", right? (Also went to the Niagara County Fair while there and had the best piece of corn (white and yellow kernals) I'd had in my life --- but now I'm REALLY vearing off topic for this group!) I'll tell you though - all this talk of beef on weck is making me WANT ONE! :) Deb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought we banished this topic? Anne (Percival) Kruszka Researching Bowman, Chinn, Davidson, Kettler, Kirtley, Klijewski, Knost, Kruszka, Maitland, Oliphant, Percival, Synos, Zalot & Zimmeth -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Beef on Weck I may have missed it, but did anyone mention "Charlie the Butcher" for Beef on Weck? **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du ffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1297 - Release Date: 2/25/2008 9:22 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1297 - Release Date: 2/25/2008 9:22 AM

Here in Buffalo the pattern has been to fix *nothing* before inflating the price and reselling. I urge you to visit the Mayor's Anti-Flipping Task Force website to learn mroe. --- Linda Lathrop <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought "flipping" was like they show on TV when they > remodel and fix a house up and then sell it and make > more money. Is that illegal? > > Linda Farrell-Hooker Lathrop > Hooker-North List Owner > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/h/hooker-north.html#HOOKER-NORTH > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Consider having your DNA tested at > The Hooker DNA Project > https://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/h/hooker/index.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cynthia Van Ness > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Has any relative bought an auctioned > house > > > Veering off topic again, I see. > > Sorry, gotta jump in. Not that you were considering doing > this > but I have to post a warning in case anyone else was. > Buying > Buffalo houses at online auctions and promptly reselling > them at > higher prices without making any improvements is a > fraudulent > practice called flipping. It has destructive consequences > for > the surrounding neighborhoods. There is a made-in-Buffalo > documentary about it: > > http://flippedmovie.com/news.php > > There is also a task force charged with halting it. See: > > http://www.buffaloflipping.com/ > > Apologies for being lecturesome. We now return to our > regularly > scheduled genealogical programming. > > --- zona himmelsbach <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What is the name of your relative in Erie County who > bought an > > auctioned > > house? > > > > Look what I found on a google search > > > http://www.bid4assets.com/auction/index.cfm?auctionID=373537 > > > > zh > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city > living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is > tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated > population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they > can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." > --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

I thought "flipping" was like they show on TV when they remodel and fix a house up and then sell it and make more money. Is that illegal? Linda Farrell-Hooker Lathrop Hooker-North List Owner http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/h/hooker-north.html#HOOKER-NORTH ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Consider having your DNA tested at The Hooker DNA Project https://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/h/hooker/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Van Ness To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Has any relative bought an auctioned house Veering off topic again, I see. Sorry, gotta jump in. Not that you were considering doing this but I have to post a warning in case anyone else was. Buying Buffalo houses at online auctions and promptly reselling them at higher prices without making any improvements is a fraudulent practice called flipping. It has destructive consequences for the surrounding neighborhoods. There is a made-in-Buffalo documentary about it: http://flippedmovie.com/news.php There is also a task force charged with halting it. See: http://www.buffaloflipping.com/ Apologies for being lecturesome. We now return to our regularly scheduled genealogical programming. --- zona himmelsbach <[email protected]> wrote: > What is the name of your relative in Erie County who bought an > auctioned > house? > > Look what I found on a google search > http://www.bid4assets.com/auction/index.cfm?auctionID=373537 > > zh > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St. Francis Xavier merged with Assumption Church. See http://www.buffalo.com/specialprojects/parishweb/NWB14.htm for info about the parish. I can only assume that the records of the parish including those of the Cemetery on Niagara Street, near Riverside Park, are now with Assumption. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles and Donna Hudson Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYERIE] St. Francis Church Xavier Yes, I believe the church cemetery that Barbara and Joseph Ailinger are buried in is in the Black Rock area in the north part of Buffalo. All I know is that the cemetery is connected with St. Francis and a relative told me the church was on River Road. I saw there was a St. Francis on Riverside and didn't know if that is what she meant instead. Who do I call for the burial records of St. Francis Xavier or where are these records on the Internet? I assume there is still snow on the ground in Buffalo and can't request photos be taken of these stones at this time. Thanks for your great help! Donna Hudson [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are you talking about St. Francis Xavier in Black Rock? It's somewhat near River Road. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles and Donna Hudson Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYERIE] St. Francis Church on River Road in Buffalo My question is 'How many St. Francis Catholic Churches are there in Buffalo?' I'm trying to find the St. Francis Catholic Church located on River Road. Is this church closed? I believe I have some relatives buried there by the name of Barbara and Joseph Ailinger and would like to find out what the burial records/tombstones say about these two. Thanks for your help! Donna Hudson [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also had a problem with that web site. I looked up my grandparents' house at 222 Pershing Avenue. It was built in 1920, but this web site database only gave owner information back to 1965. Russ Lipp On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Kate Johnson wrote: > Regarding the Erie County Real Property Tax Services website at: > > http://www.erie.gov/depts/finance/webprop/index.asp > > Does anyone know what is included in the database? I looked on the > website for the answer without success. I am guessing that a > description of the data collection process is published, but I > couldn't find it. > > For example, I couldn't locate information on my parent's home in > Williamsville/Clarence; they have lived at the address since 1957 > and I know they pay taxes. :-) I couldn't find any addresses in > West Seneca. What towns/villages are included in this database? > How far back in history does the database go? Does this database > supposedly include all property owners in present day Erie County? > > Any insights would be greatly appreciated. > > Kate > Where light snow is predicted today in Denver, > but I saw crocus leaves poking out yesterday. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYERIE- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Veering off topic again, I see. Sorry, gotta jump in. Not that you were considering doing this but I have to post a warning in case anyone else was. Buying Buffalo houses at online auctions and promptly reselling them at higher prices without making any improvements is a fraudulent practice called flipping. It has destructive consequences for the surrounding neighborhoods. There is a made-in-Buffalo documentary about it: http://flippedmovie.com/news.php There is also a task force charged with halting it. See: http://www.buffaloflipping.com/ Apologies for being lecturesome. We now return to our regularly scheduled genealogical programming. --- zona himmelsbach <[email protected]> wrote: > What is the name of your relative in Erie County who bought an > auctioned > house? > > Look what I found on a google search > http://www.bid4assets.com/auction/index.cfm?auctionID=373537 > > zh > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

--- Russell Lipp <[email protected]> wrote: > I also had a problem with that web site. I looked up my > grandparents' > house at 222 Pershing Avenue. It was built in 1920, but this > web site > database only gave owner information back to 1965. I am not surprised to hear it, since 1965 or so is the earliest that they might have started using computers for this kind of record-keeping. To input all previous owners of all properties dating back to the Holland Land Company requires enormous labor costs and this is a county where people already feel too heavily taxed. *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

There is St Francis of Assisi, founded 1852, 150 Broad St, City of Tonawanda, 3,800 parishioners, etc from this Buffalo News report http://www.buffalo.com/specialprojects/parishweb/NE16.htm http://www.buffalonews.com/280/story/249239.html http://www.buffalo.com/specialprojects/parishweb/buffalo.htm# Charles and Donna Hudson wrote: > My question is 'How many St. Francis Catholic Churches are there in Buffalo?' > > I'm trying to find the St. Francis Catholic Church located on River Road. Is this church closed? I believe I have some relatives buried there by the name of Barbara and Joseph Ailinger and would like to find out what the burial records/tombstones say about these two. > > Thanks for your help! > > Donna Hudson > [email protected] > > > >

Yes, I believe the church cemetery that Barbara and Joseph Ailinger are buried in is in the Black Rock area in the north part of Buffalo. All I know is that the cemetery is connected with St. Francis and a relative told me the church was on River Road. I saw there was a St. Francis on Riverside and didn't know if that is what she meant instead. Who do I call for the burial records of St. Francis Xavier or where are these records on the Internet? I assume there is still snow on the ground in Buffalo and can't request photos be taken of these stones at this time. Thanks for your great help! Donna Hudson [email protected]

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If you are looking for St. Francis of Assisi Church it is on Adam St. in City of Tonawanda (CITY OF not town or north) It is located on Adam St. The Church Property has church, chapel and school. One building fronts Adam St and the other building fronts another streeet. It is not far from River Road but it is not on River Road and not in the city of Buffalo. It has an old cemetery on Main St. in the City of Tonawanda. Not too far from the Church. Hope this helps. laurieg Reseaarching: Amico,Asciutto,Arico,Galbo,Giambrone,Mistretta,Frisa, Ortalano,Lazarra, Van Ausdale,(Van Oesdale,Vanosdale,Van Arsdale, Van Arsdalen) Hartman,Mikuszewski,Szulc. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

What is the name of your relative in Erie County who bought an auctioned house? Look what I found on a google search http://www.bid4assets.com/auction/index.cfm?auctionID=373537 zh