I think they add new info on Sunday's. So they might be shut down for awhile. Kevin ---- [email protected] wrote: ============= Hi, All! Is anyone having a hard time?accessing fultonhistory.com or is it just me?? Cheers! Christine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for writing in because I thought it was my computer. Yes, I'm having a heck of a time with it.............. At 04:50 PM 3/16/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Just tried it... no luck here either Holly Timm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYERIE] Fulton History site Hi, All! Is anyone having a hard time?accessing fultonhistory.com or is it just me?? Cheers! Christine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, All! Is anyone having a hard time?accessing fultonhistory.com or is it just me?? Cheers! Christine

--- Marilyn Tracey <[email protected]> wrote: > Has anyone ever pursued digitizing the record of Father Bakers > orphans. So > many of us had ancestors placed at Our Lady of Victory but > records seem to > be unavailable, even after 125 years. This has created a dead > end for me. Any suggestions?? I'd guess that the records are in the possession of the Diocesan archives and that you'd need their cooperation & consent to put them online. *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Has anyone ever pursued digitizing the record of Father Bakers orphans. So many of us had ancestors placed at Our Lady of Victory but records seem to be unavailable, even after 125 years. This has created a dead end for me. Any suggestions?? Marilyn Jewett Tracey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Henkin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] digitizing records that do exist > As for volunteering to help convert physical records to digital when > you're not with the physical records: > There are two steps to this process. First, the paper or film images > must be scanned. Second, the data itself must be transcribed into > spreadsheets or databases so it can be indexed. > > I'm active in several groups doing Eastern European and Russian > genealogy. Sometimes the LDS has microfilmed these records. If so, > they scan them (with fast commercial scanners) on to CDs, We then > distribute these CDs to our volunteers to transcribe and index. > > Also, in one group, several of us have copies of census records for > our families, but of course other families are on the same pages. We > scan the images and send them to others who can translate and index them. > > So, it would be quite possible for someone outside Buffalo to assist > in converting the records, once someone in Buffalo did the initial > scans. (If there WERE records, of course <g>.) > > Hilary Henkin > > > At 10:01 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote: >>--- slstrick <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I did not join BECHS because I can only visit Buffalo, maybe 1-2 >> days a year, BUT I would join BECHS and do volunteer work to put >> Buffalo historical information on the web for free access. >> >>Unfortunately, BECHS has no vital records to digitize. I must be >>having a mental lapse, because I can't picture how someone there >>(wherever "there" is) can digitize something that is physically here >>and only here. >> >>Meanwhile, prospective BECHS volunteers who live here can check out this >>page: >> >>http://www.bechs.org/volunteer.htm >> >> >>*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* >>Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com >>http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1330 - Release Date: 3/15/2008 > 2:36 PM > >

As for volunteering to help convert physical records to digital when you're not with the physical records: There are two steps to this process. First, the paper or film images must be scanned. Second, the data itself must be transcribed into spreadsheets or databases so it can be indexed. I'm active in several groups doing Eastern European and Russian genealogy. Sometimes the LDS has microfilmed these records. If so, they scan them (with fast commercial scanners) on to CDs, We then distribute these CDs to our volunteers to transcribe and index. Also, in one group, several of us have copies of census records for our families, but of course other families are on the same pages. We scan the images and send them to others who can translate and index them. So, it would be quite possible for someone outside Buffalo to assist in converting the records, once someone in Buffalo did the initial scans. (If there WERE records, of course <g>.) Hilary Henkin At 10:01 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote: >--- slstrick <[email protected]> wrote: > > I did not join BECHS because I can only visit Buffalo, maybe 1-2 > days a year, BUT I would join BECHS and do volunteer work to put > Buffalo historical information on the web for free access. > >Unfortunately, BECHS has no vital records to digitize. I must be >having a mental lapse, because I can't picture how someone there >(wherever "there" is) can digitize something that is physically here >and only here. > >Meanwhile, prospective BECHS volunteers who live here can check out this page: > >http://www.bechs.org/volunteer.htm > > >*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* >Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com >http://www.BuffaloResearch.com

Hi Nan, Thank you very much for sending the census information. The members of this list have been so helpful William > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:03:33 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] George W. McClure > > > William: > I have found George W. on the 1900 and 1920 Census, but can not find him > on > 1910. His son, George E. and family are on 1910 in Buffalo.

I have found a newspaper article on a George Mcclure so email me privatly and I will send it to you [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Cynthia, I didn't ask her name. She wasn't rude, but she was matter of fact that she could not help me. That pretty much ended the conversation. Thanks, Bill Wiler Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> Sent by: [email protected] 03/12/2008 08:32 PM Please respond to [email protected] To [email protected] cc Subject Re: [NYERIE] Update to NYS Vital Records Indexes - Free Look Ups! Which librarian? --- Bill Wiler <[email protected]> wrote: > Cynthia, > Thank you very much. The Librarian just told me she > could not help me. > Bill *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of the original message.

I'm sorry, I didnt make myself clear. After I referred you to the NY State Library, was it one of their staff who couldn't help you or were you still talking about BECPL? --- Bill Wiler <[email protected]> wrote: > Cynthia, > I didn't ask her name. She wasn't rude, but she was > matter of > fact that she could not help me. That pretty much ended the > conversation. > Thanks, > Bill Wiler > > > > Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> > Sent by: [email protected] > 03/12/2008 08:32 PM > Please respond to > [email protected] > > > To > [email protected] > cc > > Subject > Re: [NYERIE] Update to NYS Vital Records Indexes - Free Look > Ups! > > > > > > > Which librarian? > > --- Bill Wiler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Cynthia, > > Thank you very much. The Librarian just told me she > > could not help me. > > Bill > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city > living. City > living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other > people. It > is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a > hundred > compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective > energy that > a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender > immediately and destroy all copies of the original message. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Thanks for the information. None of those are my Moncrief's, but it narrows things down a LITTLE.. Nancy In a message dated 3/13/2008 9:25:07 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Nancy - Charles MONCRIEF (1870 census) wife's name was Mary Ann ? 41, daughters-Sarah 25, Elizabeth-16, Margaret-11. If this will help, John SPOTTEN (brother-in-law of Moncrief) was living a few houses from them. Spotten's wife was Katherine Moncrief, died just before 1870 census was taken.......... vldg **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

William: I have found George W. on the 1900 and 1920 Census, but can not find him on 1910. His son, George E. and family are on 1910 in Buffalo. Here is info: 1900: George W., born Dec. 1848 Scotland Landscape Artist; Margaret (wife), born June 1848 Scotland; George H (son) born June 1878 Scotland, Gardener (landscp); Isabel (dau) born Feb 1882 (at school); Alice (dau) born Oct 1883 (at school); Flora (dau) born Jan 1890 in Illinois (at school). Residence: 832 Delevan. 1910: George E. (head), age 31, born Scot, gardener (general); Ida L. (wife), age 25, born Tenessee, Florence (dau) age 5, born Missouri; Margaret L. (dau), age 3, born Kansas. Residence: 60 Rodney Rd. 1920: George W. (head), age 72, born Scotland, Landscape Architect; Margaret R. (wife), age 71, born Scotland; Alice (dau) age 32, born Scotland, Artist-studio; Flora,(dau) age 24, born New York, Landscape Architect; Isabella (dau) age 36, born Scotland. Residence: 54 Gates Circle. In the 1930 (which you say you have) Census, Flora is again listed as being born in IL. and George E. is with the family and listed as married, but his wife is not listed. You can mapquest the addresses. Gates Circle and Richmond Ave. are part of the connecting "Circles" and connecting Roads that Frederick Law Olmstead designed. One could assume that George W. and George E. may have both worked as landscapers on these. If you would like pictures, I am able to take some and email them to you. Nan **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Nancy - Charles MONCRIEF (1870 census) wife's name was Mary Ann ? 41, daughters-Sarah 25, Elizabeth-16, Margaret-11. If this will help, John SPOTTEN (brother-in-law of Moncrief) was living a few houses from them. Spotten's wife was Katherine Moncrief, died just before 1870 census was taken.......... vldg **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

--- slstrick <[email protected]> wrote: > I did not join BECHS because I can only visit Buffalo, maybe > 1-2 days a > year, BUT I would join BECHS and do volunteer work to put > Buffalo > historical information on the web for free access. Unfortunately, BECHS has no vital records to digitize. I must be having a mental lapse, because I can't picture how someone there (wherever "there" is) can digitize something that is physically here and only here. Meanwhile, prospective BECHS volunteers who live here can check out this page: http://www.bechs.org/volunteer.htm *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

The discussion of the lookups to the NY state vital records index is an aspect of how to improve access to documents for historical research. Perhaps one day the genealogical societies in New York state will be able to influence those who have the power to control access to follow the lead of many other states in opening access via the internet to historical documents. Meanwhile perhaps there is a role for BECHS. Let me explain what I am thinking - I am one of the volunteers who works the project to transcribe the index and post Kentucky death certificate images. These death certs from 1911-19nn provide wonderful information on people born in the 1840's, 1850's, their parents names and places of birth. It is rather like 'digitizing birth records that do not exist' http://kyvitals.com/index.php I did not join BECHS because I can only visit Buffalo, maybe 1-2 days a year, BUT I would join BECHS and do volunteer work to put Buffalo historical information on the web for free access. Regards, Sheila Cynthia Van Ness wrote: > <snip> > > And nothing changes the fact that NY State did not require that > vital records be kept until 1880. No one, not even Google, can > digitize records that don't exist. :( > > > >

I have a few Moncrief's in my family tree that I don't know what area they are from. Do you have the name of Charles' wife and daughters? Nancy In a message dated 3/12/2008 10:13:28 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This list was so helpful to me several years ago. Thank you. I now have another close relative CHARLES MONCRIEF (various spellings) I am trying to find. He, wife and 4 daughters were on the 1870 Federal Census. They were living on Monitor Street (ward 13) in Buffalo. (He was working in the RollingHill iron factory.) The next time I find him, 1900 Federal Census, he is in the Chester County, PA. Poor House. If anyone has Buffalo City Directories available for the years after 1871, I would be so appreciative to be notified of the findings. ALSO, of course, 1875 STATE census would be just perfect. He is not there is 1880. .....vldg **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Please take a look at the link. There is no one database, there are many. http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/gate/remotedb.htm What the New York State Library offers is access to commercial databases from several suppliers, which are identified by their logos in the right-hand column. This is pretty much like offering access to books from different publishers. NYS vital records are not available through commercial database suppliers. You still have the supreme pleasure of dealing with local town clerks or the State Department of Health. And nothing changes the fact that NY State did not require that vital records be kept until 1880. No one, not even Google, can digitize records that don't exist. :( --- Grace Mather <[email protected]> wrote: > Do you know how far back the records in the database go? > Quite some time > ago I wrote to Albany and was told I had to check with the > town/village and > also that the records I was looking for (early 1800s) weren't > required at > that time. I would consider the $50 membership if my > ancestors are there. > I know there are some since that time as well. > > Grace *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Which librarian? --- Bill Wiler <[email protected]> wrote: > Cynthia, > Thank you very much. The Librarian just told me she > could not help me. > Bill *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)