Yes, that is it! They have sold the property to various developers and have vacated the convent. Do you know where they've gone? Mary   -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cynthia Van Ness Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Convent - Main Street in Williamsville Is this it? Franciscan Missionary Sisters of the Divine Child Guild 6380 Main Street Williamsville, NY 14221 Phone: 716-632-3144 From: http://www.buffalodiocese.org/diocorgs/index.htm#f --- "M. Brenzel" <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone remember which religious order had a convent on > Main Street, > near Youngs Road in Williamsville? An office park is now on > some of the > property. The convent building is still there but probably > not for long. > What’s left of the nuns’ property is being developed. There > is a “shrine” > still on Main Street at the very front of the office park. > > Where did they move to? > > Mary > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone remember which religious order had a convent on Main Street, near Youngs Road in Williamsville? An office park is now on some of the property. The convent building is still there but probably not for long. What’s left of the nuns’ property is being developed. There is a “shrine” still on Main Street at the very front of the office park. Where did they move to? Mary  

Thanks, Anne. I've wanted to get to www.ancestry.com censuses. Now I will call the library, as I don't have a subscription to ancestry's censuses. Zona

Not a clue. :( --- "M. Brenzel" <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, that is it! They have sold the property to various > developers and have > vacated the convent. Do you know where they've gone? > > Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Cynthia Van Ness > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Convent - Main Street in Williamsville > > Is this it? > > Franciscan Missionary Sisters of the Divine Child Guild > 6380 Main Street > Williamsville, NY 14221 > Phone: 716-632-3144 > > From: > http://www.buffalodiocese.org/diocorgs/index.htm#f > > --- "M. Brenzel" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Does anyone remember which religious order had a convent on > > Main Street, > > near Youngs Road in Williamsville? An office park is now on > > some of the > > property. The convent building is still there but probably > > not for long. > > What’s left of the nuns’ property is being developed. There > > is a “shrine” > > still on Main Street at the very front of the office park. > > > > Where did they move to? > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city > living. City > living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other > people. It is > dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred > compromises > daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that > a city > generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Is this it? Franciscan Missionary Sisters of the Divine Child Guild 6380 Main Street Williamsville, NY 14221 Phone: 716-632-3144 From: http://www.buffalodiocese.org/diocorgs/index.htm#f --- "M. Brenzel" <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone remember which religious order had a convent on > Main Street, > near Youngs Road in Williamsville? An office park is now on > some of the > property. The convent building is still there but probably > not for long. > What’s left of the nuns’ property is being developed. There > is a “shrine” > still on Main Street at the very front of the office park. > > Where did they move to? > > Mary > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Same with me about too much stuff going on and, I to, just read Ellen Goodman's article. I understood about how these ancestors become people to us. I seem to transport myself into their time period every time I work on genealogy. Ellen wasn't the only one with a little surprise. I had two of them. I could not understand why I couldn't find any record of my grandparents marriage to the point I questioned them being married at all until my great aunt told me they had to get married. So instead of looking in April, 1918 records (which was written in several places) I looked under April, 1919. FOUNT IT!! My father was born in Dec. 1919. Obviously, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree as the same grandfather's parents had to get married in 1885 in Buffalo. For some reason we picture that generation of ladies to be lady like and modest. Made me kind-of giggle. The story of my great-grandparents goes like this: He immigrated in 1883, met an 18 year old lady about 1884 (living with her parents), went back to Germany but missed her so much that he came back to America Sept. 1885, got married Nov. 1885 and had their first healthy baby June 1886. If you count on your fingers, you can tell he really missed her. But no movie stars or royalty in my family, just plain people who love to love.

--- M STACEY <[email protected]> wrote: M. A Stacey wrote: Will someone please explain to > me what records the NY Health Department is wanting to > cloister, and why? I don't see where the birth, marriage, or > death of my ancestors is contagious to any researchers - or > librarians. Is the Health Department afraid that records put > on a computer will catch - and spread - a "Virus"? The NY State Health Department is in charge of vital records--births, marriages, deaths. Every state's health department has the same responsibility and most have similar restrictions. A little quick Googling got me these facts--Oregon restricts birth certificates for 100 years, death certificates for 50. Maryland restricts birth certificates for 80 years. Arkansas restricts death certificates for 50 years. What are the restrictions regarding vital records in your state? *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:36:39 -0700> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Francis Silver> > I believe that NY State Health Department regulations prohibit> digitizing vital records. Libraries which are chosen to receive> the NYS Vital Records Index on microfiche are instructed that> the information contained in them cannot be put online.> > Buffalo & Erie County Public Library & the Rochester Public> Library have this microfiche.> > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Cynthia Van Ness> > <[email protected]> writes:> > > Unfortunately, New York State did not require that births,> > > marriages & deaths be reported to the government until 1880.> > > > > Before then, one pretty much relies on church records.> > > http://www.buffaloresearch.com/vital.html> > > > > > --- > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-*> > > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com> > > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com> > > ... > > > -------------------------------> > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------> > > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-*> Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com> http://www.BuffaloResearch.com> > > -------------------------------Will someone please explain to me what records the NY Health Department is wanting to cloister, and why? I don't see where the birth, marriage, or death of my ancestors is contagious to any researchers - or librarians. Is the Health Department afraid that records put on a computer will catch - and spread - a "Virus"? Thanks, M. A. Stacey

Way too much stuff going on, so haven't been "keeping up" very well recently. But this one jumped out at me. Thanks for the heads up and great article. Have already sent it on to several individuals and the heritage group I run out at yahoogroups. I hope we continue to see more and more coverage in mainstream media of all the various aspects of genealogy, family history, heritage, preservation - from essays like tthis to news of local records offices digitizing or microfilming original records to cemetery projects - to news stories of what's going on at local libraries, historical societies, genealogy societies - and more importantly how that has "bearing" in people's lives. The Library of Congress made the news when it released all those photos to Flickr that you and I can now freely access, tag, enjoy. But just as important is one individual sitting alone in an attic sorting through decades worth of vintage family photos - identifying, organizing and writing down "who's in them". All are then preserved and become part of history - personal - and collective. I'm glad to see essays like this shared across many newspapers in the country too. Maybe the underlying ideas of "this family history stuff" will get through to people of various ages - not via a chart - but via a human interest story. Thanks again for the heads up. Deb On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> wrote: > Great essay in today's Buffalo News from syndicated columnist > Ellen Goodman, on surprises in her family history: > > http://www.buffalonews.com/248/story/328158.html > A look back proves intriguing > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com

I believe that NY State Health Department regulations prohibit digitizing vital records. Libraries which are chosen to receive the NYS Vital Records Index on microfiche are instructed that the information contained in them cannot be put online. Buffalo & Erie County Public Library & the Rochester Public Library have this microfiche. --- Raymond F Roux <[email protected]> wrote: > I want to thank you for the link to records in Buffalo and > Erie County. I > was sorry to read it since it seems that very little is > available to > access on line. Since I am doing this for a friend, I will > pass the info > on to him and let him decide what to do from here. I still > have to search > the 1830 and 1840 census for that area but I'm sure there will > not be > much specific information from that. > > Now that the weather is getting better, we will be going back > to Mexico, > NY where we have a camp on Lake Ontario. It's nice here in the > witer but > I much prefer the Lake in the summer. > > Thanks again, > > Ray. > > > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Cynthia Van Ness > <[email protected]> writes: > > Welcome, Rayomnd, > > > > Unfortunately, New York State did not require that births, > > marriages & deaths be reported to the government until 1880. > > > Before then, one pretty much relies on church records. > > > > Here's more than you ever wanted to know about finding > records > > in Buffalo & Erie County: > > > > http://www.buffaloresearch.com/vital.html > > > > --- Raymond F Roux <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm a new member of this list. I hope there is someone > that > > > may be able > > > to give me some help in locating info on a Francis and > > > William Silver > > > who may have been born in the Buffalo area. > > > > > > The earliest information I have on that family is from the > > > 1850 census in > > > Richmond, Lincoln Cty, Maine. The mother and the two boys > > > were > > > there. Jane Silver was 40 years old and William and > Francis > > > were 12 and > > > 6. That census had all three being born in Maine, however, > all > > > other > > > census and other sources had the boys born in NY State. > > > Information at > > > the death of Francis had Buffalo as his birth place hence > the > > > reason I am > > > trying this area. Would there be any city or county > records of > > > birth and > > > marriages for the 1830 and 40 time period? There are > probably > > > also > > > records of the marriage of a Jane Stacy and a Silver in > the > > > 1830's. I > > > have no information on Janes husband as to what happened - > > > death, divorce > > > or something else. She did remarry later in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray Roux > > > Vero Beach, FL > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city > living. > > City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of > other > > people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that > makes a > > hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the > > collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. > Davis, Jr. > > (1955-2007) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > Ray Roux > Vero Beach, FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Sounds like a sewer district. Kevin ---- [email protected] wrote: ============= While searching names on the 1900 Census in Buffalo, I came across this location at top of page: "Sanitary District No 4". I 've not seen this before and have no idea what it is. There are house numbers, but no street name. Does anyone know what section this might be? TIA, Nan **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While searching names on the 1900 Census in Buffalo, I came across this location at top of page: "Sanitary District No 4". I 've not seen this before and have no idea what it is. There are house numbers, but no street name. Does anyone know what section this might be? TIA, Nan **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

The website given below is the City of Buffalo, Inactive Records Center. The staff is very helpful with the records that they have - but they are only the City of Buffalo and somewhat limited. The birth indexes are useful to look through for early years 1878-1914 - much easier than microfilm. Parking at the Inactive Records Center is free and convenient. The Center is in a renovated warehouse park with parking at the address 85 River Rock Drive. But if you want to get the birth certificates and marriage certificates - there are many of these on microfilm at the downtown location of the Buffalo and Erie County Public Library, Lafayette Square. There are not indexes for these so you need to have a pretty good idea of the date. Also at the downtown library is a copy of the New York state indexes on microfiche for birth, marriage and death - These include Erie County events for the early years 1880-1914 BUT not the city of buffalo until after 1914. The Erie County Clerk's office and the Erie County Surrogate Court office are at the Erie County Hall 92 Franklin Street which also has an entrance on Delaware Avenue. If you want probate files from the Surrogate's office, go and request them first because they are stored off-site and it can take 3 days to get the file. Parking downtown at the Main Place Mall is located in between the Library and the Erie County Hall. Walk a few blocks in different directions to get to each place. Google Main Place Mall, Buffalo, NY and you'll see it on a map. Good Luck with your research. Sheila http://www.erie.gov/depts/government/clerk.phtml http://www.buffalolib.org/libraries/collections/copy%20of%20grosvenor.asp Nancy Archdekin wrote: > At 02:13 PM 4/21/2008, Sara Burkholder wrote: > >> Not knowing the official name of the place that houses old Erie County >> Records, I understand it is off of Delaware Ave.. Can you inform me of what >> is held there(document wise),its location, available parking, & times of >> operation. >> > > I believe you're looking for the Records Center. They have a website > at > http://www.ci.buffalo.ny.us/Home/Leadership/City_Departments/City_Clerk/RecordsManagement > > Nancy > >

Here's a map of downtown parking: http://www.buffaloplace.com/work/graphics/parking.pdf --- slstrick <[email protected]> wrote: [snip] > Parking downtown at the Main Place Mall is located in between > the > Library and the Erie County Hall. Walk a few blocks in > different > directions to get to each place. Google Main Place Mall, > Buffalo, NY > and you'll see it on a map. > > Good Luck with your research. > Sheila > > > http://www.erie.gov/depts/government/clerk.phtml > > http://www.buffalolib.org/libraries/collections/copy%20of%20grosvenor.asp *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

I want to thank you for the link to records in Buffalo and Erie County. I was sorry to read it since it seems that very little is available to access on line. Since I am doing this for a friend, I will pass the info on to him and let him decide what to do from here. I still have to search the 1830 and 1840 census for that area but I'm sure there will not be much specific information from that. Now that the weather is getting better, we will be going back to Mexico, NY where we have a camp on Lake Ontario. It's nice here in the witer but I much prefer the Lake in the summer. Thanks again, Ray. On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> writes: > Welcome, Rayomnd, > > Unfortunately, New York State did not require that births, > marriages & deaths be reported to the government until 1880. > Before then, one pretty much relies on church records. > > Here's more than you ever wanted to know about finding records > in Buffalo & Erie County: > > http://www.buffaloresearch.com/vital.html > > --- Raymond F Roux <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm a new member of this list. I hope there is someone that > > may be able > > to give me some help in locating info on a Francis and > > William Silver > > who may have been born in the Buffalo area. > > > > The earliest information I have on that family is from the > > 1850 census in > > Richmond, Lincoln Cty, Maine. The mother and the two boys > > were > > there. Jane Silver was 40 years old and William and Francis > > were 12 and > > 6. That census had all three being born in Maine, however, all > > other > > census and other sources had the boys born in NY State. > > Information at > > the death of Francis had Buffalo as his birth place hence the > > reason I am > > trying this area. Would there be any city or county records of > > birth and > > marriages for the 1830 and 40 time period? There are probably > > also > > records of the marriage of a Jane Stacy and a Silver in the > > 1830's. I > > have no information on Janes husband as to what happened - > > death, divorce > > or something else. She did remarry later in life. > > > > > > > > Ray Roux > > Vero Beach, FL > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. > City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other > people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a > hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the > collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. > (1955-2007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Ray Roux Vero Beach, FL

I get the Bflo News everyday but haven't read it for a couple days. I would have totally missed this article. She is right on the money. Thanks for sharing!! nan **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Nancy, Thank you for pointing me in the direction of Records Management for the city..You help is much appreciated...Sara Burkholder -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy Archdekin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Archives At 02:13 PM 4/21/2008, Sara Burkholder wrote: >Not knowing the official name of the place that houses old Erie County >Records, I understand it is off of Delaware Ave.. Can you inform me of what >is held there(document wise),its location, available parking, & times of >operation. I believe you're looking for the Records Center. They have a website at http://www.ci.buffalo.ny.us/Home/Leadership/City_Departments/City_Clerk/Reco rdsManagement Nancy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The last sentence of Ellen's article hits home if you have any black sheep in the family. " One generation's shame becomes another's rich tapestry. One generation's secret becomes another's source of wonder" Kevin ---- [email protected] wrote: ============= In a message dated 4/21/2008 10:08:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.buffalonews.com/248/story/328158.html Wonderful essay. Goodman is right on when she says stories are what breathe life into our ancestors. I had been searching for years for information about my grandmother who died long before I was born. A relative by marriage was putting together our family tree and went out of her way to find something, anything about this mysterious woman. She found her DOB, death, AND a picture of her. Suddenly my grandmother became more than a name. She became a real live person with a real live face and the stories I had once made up seemed close to being real. The joy I felt seeing this woman transformed from ghost to three-dimensional woman with a life beyond paper was overwhelming. This essay has brought back that joy. Thank you... Diane **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 4/21/2008 10:08:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.buffalonews.com/248/story/328158.html Wonderful essay. Goodman is right on when she says stories are what breathe life into our ancestors. I had been searching for years for information about my grandmother who died long before I was born. A relative by marriage was putting together our family tree and went out of her way to find something, anything about this mysterious woman. She found her DOB, death, AND a picture of her. Suddenly my grandmother became more than a name. She became a real live person with a real live face and the stories I had once made up seemed close to being real. The joy I felt seeing this woman transformed from ghost to three-dimensional woman with a life beyond paper was overwhelming. This essay has brought back that joy. Thank you... Diane **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Does anyone have a CD for Passenger Lists to the Port of New York that covers 1860-1920? I'd like a lookup for Jacob HIMMELSBACH from Bas Rhin, Alsace. He supposedly came over in 1871. His son Joseph Himmelsbach was with him. I don't know the date or the name of the ship. Also Carmen CUEVAS who came over when she was 16 or 18 from London, England; I don't know the port of departure. That was about 1912 -1914 (she was born Dec 21 1896. Any effort will be deeply appreciated. Zona