Thank you. That would be an option. At 12:44 PM 5/2/2008 -0400, you wrote: >Perhaps there is a report at the Erie County Medical Examiner's Office, >Grider St, Buffalo, NY

Val, Agree, No descendants live there now. It's really bad. Several years ago, I drove past and I almost got sick. People were living in windowless apartments. The area for the window had plywood over it and every front door was open. There wasn't one window with glass in it. We moved out when I was six months old. We visited often because we had close friends that lived there for years. They moved out perhaps the 70's or 80's and it was already getting bad. I'm not sure what's left now. I recently was volunteering at South Buffalo Community Center on Leddy (or Ledy) St. and that's as close as I want to get to the area. Rest assure - no descendents are there now. Ruth

This has been very interesting to me. My family comes from near the railroad track in Buffalo. They are the Texters, Knorr, Reumanns, Rich is still in the eyes of the beholder isn't it. Jann Whalen Parks Looking for Reumann, Reuman,Texter, Loersch,Knorr and Byers Numbers 6:24-26 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <[email protected]> To: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Perry Projects & Bethlehem Steel > Hi Ruth, > > Do you know how far the Perry Projects extend. I'm curious whether > the houses that were used by my relatives are part of that or if the > houses are still standing. > > Here are some of the homes on my list: > 268 Fulton, 521 Elk, 357 Elk, 77 Manitoba, and 544 Perry > > I think the descendants have all moved away from the area since then. > I always remember how the relatives use to talk about one another's > financial position when the Buffalo relatives came to Hamilton. > > Those from Buffalo referred to the Hamilton relatives as rich. Those > from Hamilton thought the Buffalo relatives were rich because they > could travel. The reality was that most of them on both sides of the > border were just surviving. My grandmother and her children would > pool their money when the relatives were coming and a wonderful feast > would be enjoyed by all. The Buffalo families would in turn pool > their money to pay their travel expenses. > > Your right about this being an interesting topic. I may have > instigated it but I think lots of us found out more about the history > of Buffalo than we knew before and I dare say there are a few others > out there that had people treated at this hospital. It certainly > sounds like it was a very busy place in those days. > > Who was the doctor that signed the Record of Death. Mind was signed > by Charles E. Long. I don't know if he worked at both hospitals but > it is another clue to look into. Good Luck. Wish I was close enough > to come to the Museum. > > Val > > > On 2 May 2008 at 11:53, Ruth Madar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built >> for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a >> year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really >> bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were >> renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. >> Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna >> area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce >> where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, >> then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the >> police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if >> he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to >> reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. >> That's how bad it is. >> >> Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in >> 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. >> As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't >> say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel >> Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death >> notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is >> there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living >> in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built >> as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so >> many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were >> mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for >> steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to >> check it out. I found this subject very interesting. >> >> At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: >> >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana >> >St. Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever. >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Any one of the descendants who lived in or near the projects, Trust us, Val, does NOT live anywhere near them now. I would feel safer walking down the street naked in Compton, California. Well, that's a slight exaggeration...but only slight. 268 Fulton is a park. 521 Elk is brownfields(how uncommon in Buffalo) 357 Elk is either a very large building or a parking lot depending on what side of the street it was on, 77 Manitoba is a large building, possibly a 2 to 4 flat house. and 544 Perry is still there, but not in the projects, but down the road from them. My guess is it was never officially part of the Projects, but it's close enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: Val<mailto:[email protected]> To: Ruth Madar<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Perry Projects & Bethlehem Steel Hi Ruth, Do you know how far the Perry Projects extend. I'm curious whether the houses that were used by my relatives are part of that or if the houses are still standing. Here are some of the homes on my list: 268 Fulton, 521 Elk, 357 Elk, 77 Manitoba, and 544 Perry I think the descendants have all moved away from the area since then. I always remember how the relatives use to talk about one another's financial position when the Buffalo relatives came to Hamilton. Those from Buffalo referred to the Hamilton relatives as rich. Those from Hamilton thought the Buffalo relatives were rich because they could travel. The reality was that most of them on both sides of the border were just surviving. My grandmother and her children would pool their money when the relatives were coming and a wonderful feast would be enjoyed by all. The Buffalo families would in turn pool their money to pay their travel expenses. Your right about this being an interesting topic. I may have instigated it but I think lots of us found out more about the history of Buffalo than we knew before and I dare say there are a few others out there that had people treated at this hospital. It certainly sounds like it was a very busy place in those days. Who was the doctor that signed the Record of Death. Mind was signed by Charles E. Long. I don't know if he worked at both hospitals but it is another clue to look into. Good Luck. Wish I was close enough to come to the Museum. Val On 2 May 2008 at 11:53, Ruth Madar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built > for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a > year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really > bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were > renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. > Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna > area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce > where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, > then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the > police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if > he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to > reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. > That's how bad it is. > > Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in > 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. > As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't > say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel > Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death > notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is > there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living > in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built > as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so > many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were > mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for > steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to > check it out. I found this subject very interesting. > > At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana > >St. Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Perhaps there is a report at the Erie County Medical Examiner's Office, Grider St, Buffalo, NY Ruth Madar wrote: > Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in 1928 > where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. As you can > figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't say where he was > taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel Plant". I found nothing > in the newspaper other then the normal death notice. One day soon I will > go to the museum to see if anything is there about it. I, always, assumed > he was taken to OLV because living in the area all my life, we always > understood that OLV was first built as a hospital intended for the steel > workers because there was so many. I've never heard of > Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were mislead all these years and people > knowing there was a hospital for steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will > stop in at the museum to check it out. I found this subject very interesting. > > At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >

Hi Ruth, Do you know how far the Perry Projects extend. I'm curious whether the houses that were used by my relatives are part of that or if the houses are still standing. Here are some of the homes on my list: 268 Fulton, 521 Elk, 357 Elk, 77 Manitoba, and 544 Perry I think the descendants have all moved away from the area since then. I always remember how the relatives use to talk about one another's financial position when the Buffalo relatives came to Hamilton. Those from Buffalo referred to the Hamilton relatives as rich. Those from Hamilton thought the Buffalo relatives were rich because they could travel. The reality was that most of them on both sides of the border were just surviving. My grandmother and her children would pool their money when the relatives were coming and a wonderful feast would be enjoyed by all. The Buffalo families would in turn pool their money to pay their travel expenses. Your right about this being an interesting topic. I may have instigated it but I think lots of us found out more about the history of Buffalo than we knew before and I dare say there are a few others out there that had people treated at this hospital. It certainly sounds like it was a very busy place in those days. Who was the doctor that signed the Record of Death. Mind was signed by Charles E. Long. I don't know if he worked at both hospitals but it is another clue to look into. Good Luck. Wish I was close enough to come to the Museum. Val On 2 May 2008 at 11:53, Ruth Madar <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built > for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a > year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really > bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were > renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. > Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna > area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce > where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, > then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the > police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if > he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to > reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. > That's how bad it is. > > Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in > 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. > As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't > say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel > Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death > notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is > there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living > in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built > as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so > many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were > mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for > steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to > check it out. I found this subject very interesting. > > At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana > >St. Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever. >

Hi Amy, Great site. I had never seen it before but have it bookmarked now. Val On 1 May 2008 at 22:09, Amy Lathrop <[email protected]> wrote: > > I live in Lackawanna also and have only ever heard that there was once > a hospital on site, but never a name. I assumed it was just called the > plant hospital. > > I'm using fultonhistory.com > > I did come across a newpaper article in the Buffalo Express saying > that an accident victim was refused at Moses Taylor Hospital because > he had not been injured at the plant. > > Yet there are other articles saying someone was injured at Ridge Rd. > and Holland Ave and taken there. (1926) Someone injured in an auto > accident on Lakeshore Road near Wanakah taken to Moses Taylor Hospital > in Lackawnna (1925) Harry Dunlap of 699 Riley street injured when car > he was riding in hit a pole at Bayview, taken to Moses Taylor > Hospital(1924) Edward Collins, 65, of 223 Swan, died in Moses Taylor > hospital after hit by a car on Hamburg Turnpike near the plant. (1924) > And many, many more. > > There are lots of employment adds for orderlies and Maids at Moses > Taylor Hospital, Lackawanna, NY. > > > > Amy L. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gail<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May > 01, 2008 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital in > Buffalo or Lackawanna - 1920 > > > If your interested in a short history lesson of Lackawanna, the city > has its own web site > www.ci.lackawanna.ny.us\<http://www.ci.lackawanna.ny.us/> then go to > enter site and history. The only hospital I ever heard anyone talk > about in Lackawanna was "Our Lady of Victory" (which is now low > income senior citizen apartments.) I have been living around and in > Lackawanna all my life and had numerous friends and relatives that > worked at the steel plant, but I have never heard any of them > mention this hospital....learn something new everyday. Sounds like > the plant (which was like a little city all of its own in those > days) must have had their own medical facility. Strange its not > spoken or written about that much. Makes you wonder why. Gail ----- > Original Message ----- From: "Val" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: > Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:51 AM Subject: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor > Hospital in Buffalo or Lackawanna - 1920 > > > > Hi All, > > > > My Granduncle was killed when he fell from a crane at the > Lackawanna > Steal Co. on Sept 27, 1920 during a freak storm. > Lightening hit 3 > places in the area that day and he lost is > footing when a flash > startled him. > > I'm trying to put together > a scenario of his last day as part of > writing his story but I > haven't been able to find the locations of > the Steal company or > the Hospital. > > He was living at 544 Perry St., Buffalo at the > time and I have that > location on a map. He would have gone to > work at the Lakawanna Steal > Co. in the morning but I haven't been > able to find it's location > other than Lackawanna the city is only > 4 miles from Perry St. Does > anyone have an address for the Plant > in 1920. > > He fell at 4 pm and was taken to Moses Taylor Hospital > where he died > at 6:05 pm. The only Moses Taylor Hospital that I > have been able to > locate is the one in Scranton PA but it is more > than 4 hours away > going at the speed of today's cars so it's > impossible for them to > transport him to that hospital within 2 > hours. > > I have reason to believe that there was a branch of this > hospital > near the steal works plant and that there is some > connection between > the plant and the hospital. Does anyone have > more information on > this hopital and where it was located. > > The > name of the plant could be The Lackawanna Iron and Steal Co. but > > the name on my records show The Lackawanna Steal Co. > > I found a > reference to the hospital here: > > http://www.railfan.net/lists/erielack-digest/200608/msg00727.html<ht > tp://www.railfan.net/lists/erielack-digest/200608/msg00727.html> > > > But it still doesn't give me the location. > > Hope someone out > there can help. > > Val > > ------------------------------- > To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the > body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming > message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: > 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: 5/1/2008 > 8:39 AM > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Cynthia. Great pictues. Val On 1 May 2008 at 20:16, Cynthia Van Ness <[email protected]> wrote: > Here's a little background on Bethlehem Steel in Lackawanna: > > http://www.buffaloah.com/h/beth/ > > Apologies for any duplication. > > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* > Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com > http://www.BuffaloResearch.com > > "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. > City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other > people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a > hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective > energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I certainly hope you see angels fly in your sleep. Great job. Perhaps the small hospital next to the main office was just for cuts and minor injuries. There must have been many of those since there were so many injuries that actually lead to death. One last article I found at the great site you were using for newspapers: Newspaper Buffalo NY Morning Express 1903 One of the features of the Lackawanna Steel Company's plant that attest the breadth of view of those who have founded that institution is the Moses Taylor Hospital that has been designed for the benefit of employees of the plant. It will be a big building 100 feet long, with wings running back 30 (?) feet and within the best ideas as to modern hospital equipment will be employed. Thanks for all your time and help. Val On 2 May 2008 at 3:08, Amy Lathrop <[email protected]> wrote: > Mystery solved. Moses Taylor Hospital was on Ridge Road, Across from > Holland Ave, between the "R.C. church" and the "Polish church". So > essentially, it was where the Friendship House is now. Actually, the > playground is situatated over the hospitals footprint. > > However, according to the 1915 map I am viewing at > http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlate.php?country=US > &m=38751<http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlate.php?c > ountry=US&m=38751> there is also a small hospital next to the main > office on Hamburg Turnpike. > > > I can sleep now. > > > > Niters, > > Amy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually, OLV was built as a maternity hospital first(but not called OLV) and in 1919 it became a general hospital. Moses Taylor Hospital was obviously still operational in 1925 according to the articles I've found, but when it closed, I can't discover. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Madar<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Perry Projects & Bethlehem Steel Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. That's how bad it is. Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to check it out. I found this subject very interesting. At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana St. >Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Perry Projects are in South Buffalo. They originally were built for the WWII families. I was born in one of the apartments about a year after my father came home from the Army. The projects got really bad when some of them were torn down. The remaining ones were renovated but the newly fixed up apartments didn't last long. Extremely Ghetto now. Friends of ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna area decided to go for a ride in the Perry Projects area to reminisce where he grew up. A police car pulled him over, asked who he was, then asked if he lived there. Paul explained what he was doing, the police escorted them out of the area and told him, politely, that if he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong there and never decide to reminisce again in that area. This happened in the early afternoon. That's how bad it is. Also, my grandfather was electrocuted while working at Bethlehem in 1928 where he working as an electrician. He was hit with 440 bolts. As you can figure he died on the spot. His death certificate doesn't say where he was taken other then "place of death Bethlehem Steel Plant". I found nothing in the newspaper other then the normal death notice. One day soon I will go to the museum to see if anything is there about it. I, always, assumed he was taken to OLV because living in the area all my life, we always understood that OLV was first built as a hospital intended for the steel workers because there was so many. I've never heard of Moses Taylor Hospital. Perhaps we were mislead all these years and people knowing there was a hospital for steel workers assumed it was OLV. I will stop in at the museum to check it out. I found this subject very interesting. At 11:51 PM 5/1/2008 -0400, you wrote: >The Perry's are in South Buffalo, not the East Side. Off Louisiana St. >Near South Park Ave. And Yep, Ghetto as ever.

Forgive me for veering *way* off topic, but this cop's behavior is one of my pet peeves. I resent it when anyone tries to make me afraid of my own city. Cops have no business bad-mouthing the people and neighborhoods they are sworn to serve. I would have reported him. There are circumstances and situations that are dangerous, but they are hardly confined to specific neighborhoods. Good things happen in supposedly bad neighborhoods all the time, and bad things happen in supposedly good neighborhoods all the time. Wal*Mart parking lots, which are never situated in "bad" neighborhoods, are ideal settings for all sorts of predatory behavior and they have the crime stats to show for it. What you do is pay attention to your surroundings and the behavior of those around you. --- Ruth Madar <[email protected]> wrote: [snip] > Friends of > ours who live in Buffalo/Lackawanna area decided to go for a > ride in the > Perry Projects area to reminisce where he grew up. A police > car pulled him > over, asked who he was, then asked if he lived there. Paul > explained what > he was doing, the police escorted them out of the area and > told him, > politely, that if he doesn't live there, he doesn't belong > there and never > decide to reminisce again in that area. This happened in the > early > afternoon. That's how bad it is. *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Thanks, Cynthia. I didn't think of looking though the Buffalo telephone books and city directories for that information. Sometimes your focus is so narrow that you need other suggestions. That was what I was hoping for when I posted on this board. I have already checked all of the various names on the SSDI, though, and didn't find anyone by those names. That was an encouraging sign. I even went so far as to do a search by only her first name, since it isn't extremely common. No hits there, either. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Van Ness To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Nursing Home @ Main & Kensington? Buffalo city directories & telephone books will list all of the nursing homes in 1988. These can be found at BECPL and BECHS: http://www.buffalolib.org/ebranch/askus/index.asp http://www.bechs.org/library/index.htm To save you the trouble of repeating the whole story, all you need to ask for is a copy of the page(s) listing nursing homes in Buffalo in 1988. There will be modest photocopying charges. If you know the birth mother's multiple names, then search the SSDI on all of them. Hope this helps! --- Annette/Len <[email protected]> wrote: > My husband is trying to locate his birth mother whom he has > never seen. Since time is NOT on our side, we have been > making yearly trips to the Buffalo area to search old records, > etc. If living, she would be approximately 86 years of age. > Since she was an ONLY child born to an ONLY child, we are > having a hard time locating her....not to mention that finding > an elderly woman can be like finding a needle in a haystack. > Since she was mentally disabled, she lived with her mother and > her mother's second husband after giving birth to my husband > and placing him in Father Baker's home. That was about two > months after she divorced his birth father. Long story, but > his father eventually picked him up from Father Bakers at the > age of 16 months, when he remarried and his new wife insisted > on raising ALL of his children. > > The latest bit of information that we've received is that the > state placed his birth mother in a nursing home when her > mother died in 1988. She would have been about 66 at that > time. Family information that were lucky enough to recently > receive is that the nursing home could have been located at > the corner of Main and Kensington in Buffalo. IF she was > issued a Social Security card from the state, we don't know > for sure what name she used...her maiden name, her married (& > then divorced name), or if she might have assumed her step > father's surname, since she lived with them for over 40 years. > We have found evidence from searching city directories and > censuses that she used several of these over the years. > > My question is, does anyone on this list recollect a nursing > home in the general area of Main and Kensington in 1988? I'm > aware that the Kensington Hwy was built and might have forced > many businesses to relocate. I'm not certain of exactly when > that occurred, though. We are originally from the western NY > area (Lockport), but aren't very familiar with the Buffalo > part of that area. If you might have a clue as to what > nursing home might have been there, I would love to hear from > you. Does anyone know if there is a mailing list for just > nursing homes on Rootsweb? > > Annette > in Ocala, FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: 5/1/2008 8:39 AM

>The latest bit of information that we've received is that the state >placed his birth mother in a nursing home when her mother died in >1988. She would have been about 66 at that time. Family >information that were lucky enough to recently receive is that the >nursing home could have been located at the corner of Main and >Kensington in Buffalo. IF she was issued a Social Security card >from the state, we don't know for sure what name she used...her >maiden name, her married (& then divorced name), or if she might >have assumed her step father's surname, since she lived with them >for over 40 years. We have found evidence from searching city >directories and censuses that she used several of these over the >years. > >My question is, does anyone on this list recollect a nursing home in >the general area of Main and Kensington in 1988? That sounds like a description of Providence Retreat, which was at that location for many years. I doubt that it was there as recently as 1988, though. The site is the present location of Sisters Hospital, which has certainly been there from before the birth of my daughter there in 1958. One of my great aunts died at Providence Retreat in 1924. George

just as a friendly reminder, to appear on the SSDI, a final benefit must be paid, or, at least that is the way I understand it.  No final benefit, name will not appear. someone know otherwise, PLEASE correct me, as all info/knowledge is helpful. ----- Original Message ---- From: Annette/Len <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 8:24:11 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Nursing Home @ Main & Kensington? Thanks, Cynthia. I didn't think of looking though the Buffalo telephone books and city directories for that information.  Sometimes your focus is so narrow that you need other suggestions.  That was what I was hoping for when I posted on this board.  I have already checked all of the various names on the SSDI, though, and didn't find anyone by those names.  That was an encouraging sign.  I even went so far as to do a search by only her first name, since it isn't extremely common.  No hits there, either.        Cynthia suggested: If you know the birth mother's multiple names, then search the   SSDI on all of them. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Buffalo city directories & telephone books will list all of the nursing homes in 1988. These can be found at BECPL and BECHS: http://www.buffalolib.org/ebranch/askus/index.asp http://www.bechs.org/library/index.htm To save you the trouble of repeating the whole story, all you need to ask for is a copy of the page(s) listing nursing homes in Buffalo in 1988. There will be modest photocopying charges. If you know the birth mother's multiple names, then search the SSDI on all of them. Hope this helps! --- Annette/Len <[email protected]> wrote: > My husband is trying to locate his birth mother whom he has > never seen. Since time is NOT on our side, we have been > making yearly trips to the Buffalo area to search old records, > etc. If living, she would be approximately 86 years of age. > Since she was an ONLY child born to an ONLY child, we are > having a hard time locating her....not to mention that finding > an elderly woman can be like finding a needle in a haystack. > Since she was mentally disabled, she lived with her mother and > her mother's second husband after giving birth to my husband > and placing him in Father Baker's home. That was about two > months after she divorced his birth father. Long story, but > his father eventually picked him up from Father Bakers at the > age of 16 months, when he remarried and his new wife insisted > on raising ALL of his children. > > The latest bit of information that we've received is that the > state placed his birth mother in a nursing home when her > mother died in 1988. She would have been about 66 at that > time. Family information that were lucky enough to recently > receive is that the nursing home could have been located at > the corner of Main and Kensington in Buffalo. IF she was > issued a Social Security card from the state, we don't know > for sure what name she used...her maiden name, her married (& > then divorced name), or if she might have assumed her step > father's surname, since she lived with them for over 40 years. > We have found evidence from searching city directories and > censuses that she used several of these over the years. > > My question is, does anyone on this list recollect a nursing > home in the general area of Main and Kensington in 1988? I'm > aware that the Kensington Hwy was built and might have forced > many businesses to relocate. I'm not certain of exactly when > that occurred, though. We are originally from the western NY > area (Lockport), but aren't very familiar with the Buffalo > part of that area. If you might have a clue as to what > nursing home might have been there, I would love to hear from > you. Does anyone know if there is a mailing list for just > nursing homes on Rootsweb? > > Annette > in Ocala, FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007)

Mystery solved. Moses Taylor Hospital was on Ridge Road, Across from Holland Ave, between the "R.C. church" and the "Polish church". So essentially, it was where the Friendship House is now. Actually, the playground is situatated over the hospitals footprint. However, according to the 1915 map I am viewing at http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlate.php?country=US&m=38751<http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlate.php?country=US&m=38751> there is also a small hospital next to the main office on Hamburg Turnpike. I can sleep now. Niters, Amy

"The History of Lackawanna" published by the Lackawanna Bicentennial Commission Dec 10, 1976 has a picture of The Moses Taylor Hospital in 1904 as it was being finished. Page 58. If you need a scan of the pix; e-mail me off list and I'll send it to you. Kevin ---- Gail <[email protected]> wrote: ============= If your interested in a short history lesson of Lackawanna, the city has its own web site www.ci.lackawanna.ny.us\ then go to enter site and history. The only hospital I ever heard anyone talk about in Lackawanna was "Our Lady of Victory" (which is now low income senior citizen apartments.) I have been living around and in Lackawanna all my life and had numerous friends and relatives that worked at the steel plant, but I have never heard any of them mention this hospital....learn something new everyday. Sounds like the plant (which was like a little city all of its own in those days) must have had their own medical facility. Strange its not spoken or written about that much. Makes you wonder why. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:51 AM Subject: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital in Buffalo or Lackawanna - 1920 > Hi All, > > My Granduncle was killed when he fell from a crane at the Lackawanna > Steal Co. on Sept 27, 1920 during a freak storm. Lightening hit 3 > places in the area that day and he lost is footing when a flash > startled him. > > I'm trying to put together a scenario of his last day as part of > writing his story but I haven't been able to find the locations of > the Steal company or the Hospital. > > He was living at 544 Perry St., Buffalo at the time and I have that > location on a map. He would have gone to work at the Lakawanna Steal > Co. in the morning but I haven't been able to find it's location > other than Lackawanna the city is only 4 miles from Perry St. Does > anyone have an address for the Plant in 1920. > > He fell at 4 pm and was taken to Moses Taylor Hospital where he died > at 6:05 pm. The only Moses Taylor Hospital that I have been able to > locate is the one in Scranton PA but it is more than 4 hours away > going at the speed of today's cars so it's impossible for them to > transport him to that hospital within 2 hours. > > I have reason to believe that there was a branch of this hospital > near the steal works plant and that there is some connection between > the plant and the hospital. Does anyone have more information on > this hopital and where it was located. > > The name of the plant could be The Lackawanna Iron and Steal Co. but > the name on my records show The Lackawanna Steal Co. > > I found a reference to the hospital here: > http://www.railfan.net/lists/erielack-digest/200608/msg00727.html > > But it still doesn't give me the location. > > Hope someone out there can help. > > Val > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: 5/1/2008 > 8:39 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St. Mary Redemptorist was in operation from 1842-1981 Records are at the Chancery 716-847-5500. Kevin ---- Martin Luther <[email protected]> wrote: ============= Corner of Broadway and pine; burned removed and now site of infill homes...the lyceum is still there.....ended up as St Marys Shrine of Perpetual Help. Much of the interior furnishings were sold and disbursed before the final fire..... From: [email protected] Date: 2008/05/01 Thu AM 09:16:03 CDT To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYERIE] St Mary's In a message dated 4/30/2008 5:57:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: All, Does anyone know if St Mary's Redemptorist Roman Catholic Church still exists in Buffalo? If not, is there a way to get a history or a picture? Bill Wiler Hi Bill, I have a picture of the St. Mary's alter boys (including my Grandfather, Joseph STABEL) taken ca. 1881. If you are interested, I can email you a scan of it. Joe Endicott, NY **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Wayne Martin Luther Rettke ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any one know of the large building on Fuhrman Blvd(Hamburg Turnpike), where I think either the sewer or water authority is now? Right off the Ridge Rd exit off the Father Baker. I know the Steel Plant Museum's website says this was Lackawanna Steel's main office building, but from the description of the Hospital that I found, Pillared front, 3 stories, 100 foot frontage, two 80 foot wings, I think that was the hospital. It was supposed to be a "grand." It certainly is Grand. Anyone else have an opinion? ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Van Ness<mailto:[email protected]> To: NYERIE<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: [NYERIE] More on Bethlehem Steel Here's a little background on Bethlehem Steel in Lackawanna: http://www.buffaloah.com/h/beth/<http://www.buffaloah.com/h/beth/> Apologies for any duplication. *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:**:-.,_,.-* Cynthia Van Ness, MLS, bettybarcode AT yahoo DOT com http://www.BuffaloResearch.com<http://www.buffaloresearch.com/> "Everyone claims to want a city, but no one here wants city living. City living by its definition is crowded. It is tolerant of other people. It is dependent on a sophisticated population that makes a hundred compromises daily so that they can benefit from the collective energy that a city generates." --Robert N. Davis, Jr. (1955-2007) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message