Thanks - guess I'm not the only trivial mind! Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Brenzel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Charles E. Long MD I believe that his name was Richard Long. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of amzgrace Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Charles E. Long MD Hi Ruth - As a trivial Buffalo question, back in the early 1980s, do you recall a young man whose last name I think was Long, who was beaten up by several police officers and died? Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Charles E. Long MD > Oh never mind. I just realized that he Dr. Long signed your grandfathers > death certificate when your grandfather died. DUH...... > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's for kids. They tell stories that have nothing to with the cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Madar<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located Amy, Did you ever go to one of the ghost nights at Halloween? Maybe that's what we have to do this Halloween and the story teller may have an answer or a partial answer that may lead us to what happened? Oh well, just a thought. Ruth At 06:22 PM 5/3/2008 -0400, you wrote: >Oh, it's killing me! It's right on the tip of my tongue.....um, >um..... HOWARD Cemetery. The dedication stone is off the parking lot, >to the right, on a small patch of grass, under a tree. The Library hosts >a ghost story telling night by that marker, around Halloween every year. > >What confuses me about the Howard Cemetery is, they got the Carnegie grant >in 1917, the library was completed in 1922. Yet, that 1915 map of >Lackawanna that I've referenced here before shows the cemetery(extending >well into the ball park next door). So, how did they not know it was >there? I could understand the section they unearthed when they expanded >the parking lot. But the whole cemetery? Obviously there are pieces of >the story missing or misunderstood. Either by me or the history writers. > > > >Amy > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

***I got it from NetFlix, very good. At 06:15 PM 5/3/2008, you wrote: >I do recall the marker behind the library now that you bring it up. The >library is a wonderful little hometown library. Very personable. I, >always, took my kids there when they were little. I preferred it more then >my local city library. I took my littlest to story hour every week until >he started school. >Besides the book "City of Light", there is also, a movie "Lackawanna Blues" >about life across the bridge in Lackawanna. A black woman runs a boarding >house for people that she brings up from the south. It's hard to get a >hold of but it's great! Speaking about the Lackawanna Bridge on Ridge >Road. When you visit Lackawanna, the bridge is being replaced. It's not >closed but it's a bit of a mess. Rebuilding of the bridge will take another >year or two. If the same lady in Vital Statistics is still there from the >last several years, she is very nice and friendly. You can spark up a >conversation with her and she'll give you her "eye teeth". When I went for >my grandfather's death certificate, as she was copying it she asked me if I >knew how he died. I told her that I did know he was electrocuted in the >plant. She was concerned that I didn't know and it would be a shock to me. > >Ridge Road still is the home of the elite at Daisies Restaurant. The >politicians from Lackawanna and South Buffalo still meet regularly for >breakfast. I think that's how Daises was able to afford to move from the >corner of Ridge Road and South Park to a few doors down on South Park and >open up a beautiful remodeled restaurant. They made their money from the >politician :) > >Now I'm confused. If Charles E. Long MD died in the SOCONY, Atlas Plant >explosion on March 7, 1927, How did he sign my grandfathers death >certificate on Aug. 15, 1928?? I'm looking at his signature as I'm writing >this. > > > >You wrote: >Charles E. Long was the physician that signed off on my Grandfather's >death certificate. He was one of the two men that were killed in the >SOCONY, Atlas Plant explosion on March 7, 1927. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Amy, Did you ever go to one of the ghost nights at Halloween? Maybe that's what we have to do this Halloween and the story teller may have an answer or a partial answer that may lead us to what happened? Oh well, just a thought. Ruth At 06:22 PM 5/3/2008 -0400, you wrote: >Oh, it's killing me! It's right on the tip of my tongue.....um, >um..... HOWARD Cemetery. The dedication stone is off the parking lot, >to the right, on a small patch of grass, under a tree. The Library hosts >a ghost story telling night by that marker, around Halloween every year. > >What confuses me about the Howard Cemetery is, they got the Carnegie grant >in 1917, the library was completed in 1922. Yet, that 1915 map of >Lackawanna that I've referenced here before shows the cemetery(extending >well into the ball park next door). So, how did they not know it was >there? I could understand the section they unearthed when they expanded >the parking lot. But the whole cemetery? Obviously there are pieces of >the story missing or misunderstood. Either by me or the history writers. > > > >Amy >

Oh, it's killing me! It's right on the tip of my tongue.....um, um..... HOWARD Cemetery. The dedication stone is off the parking lot, to the right, on a small patch of grass, under a tree. The Library hosts a ghost story telling night by that marker, around Halloween every year. What confuses me about the Howard Cemetery is, they got the Carnegie grant in 1917, the library was completed in 1922. Yet, that 1915 map of Lackawanna that I've referenced here before shows the cemetery(extending well into the ball park next door). So, how did they not know it was there? I could understand the section they unearthed when they expanded the parking lot. But the whole cemetery? Obviously there are pieces of the story missing or misunderstood. Either by me or the history writers. Amy ----- Original Message ----- From: Annette/Len<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located Does anyone know what the name of the old cemetery was that used to be under the library and it's parking lot? Reason I'm asking is that we've located two graves in the old family plot in Holy Cross cemetery that were moved from another location. ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Lathrop To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located The cemetery behind the library is "paved" over but there is a marker dedicated to the people buried there. The library and it's parking lot sits directly over what used to be that cemetery. I guess the story is, when they wanted to build the library, they new about the cemetery there, and moved the sites to Holy Cross. Years later when they expanded the parking lot, they discovered more graves they didn't know where there. Potter's cemetery is up Ridge, going towards city hall, but it can't be seen from Ridge Road, you can see it from Nasson Parkway, and access it better, since trying to find the way in from Ridge is difficult. It's someone's driveway now. And it is grown over, broken, and uncared for. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located There's a great gift shop in the lower level of the Basilica also. I don't know how much info you'll get from City Hall, (Lackawanna) but I would plan on going to the library a few blocks down Ridge and inquire there about the History. There's also an old cemetery behind it that few people know about. I've never been back there but plan to one day. I think someone told me it was pretty much grown over as its not taken care of anymore.Ruth is right, its a great area. Ridge Road in this area used to be the elite of the big shots in the days of the properous steel plant. Another good history lesson is in the book "City of Light" by Lauren Bekfer, The book is fictional, but based on a lot of Buffalo history around the turn of the century. Most of it takes place in North Buffalo around the Pan Am site, but there was a good chapter in it about her taking a day trip to visit the steel plant. I throughly enjoyed it. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located > I, also, wish to thank everyone who contributed to this subject. I've > lived in the Bethlehem Steel Plant area all my life and learned more about > it in the past few days then I have by living here. For the person who is > coming to the area - Lackawanna is a beautiful little city and you'll love > Victory Basilica and please visit the Botanical Gardens which is in > walking > distance from the church and don't forget the old cemetery in the same > area. You'll truly be in awe and very safe. City Hall is, also, in > walking distance from the church. This weekend the old OLV hospital is > having an open house for the newly renovated building which has been made > into a new senior community. It includes a dinning room, living room with > fireplace, kitchen, laundry room and bathing spa. In meantime funds will > be > raised for Father Baker Memorial Gaslight Park and "Main Street" > concourse, > which will include a chapel, barber/beauty shop, gift shop, lab collection > sit, history museum and other amenities. It's so nice that the building > won't sit empty. There is a wonderful new restaurant on South Park Avenue > between the Basilica and Botanical Gardens called Daisies that I'm sure > you'll enjoy. > > Ruth > > At 12:30 AM 5/3/2008 -0400, you wrote: >>According to my 1976 book "History of Lackawanna" there was a wing at OLV >>hospital called the Bethlehem-Taylor wing which was equiped to do surgery. >>This may have been after the Moses Taylor hospital was no longer in use. >>The book also say's that Moses Taylor was an early invester in the steel >>company when it was in Scranton PA (Abt 1860) and before all the mergers, >>name changes and move to Lackawanna around 1900. The company also owned an >>ore ship named the SS Moses Taylor which was the first ship to deliver ore >>to the docks at the new ship canal. The new plant that was to be >>constructed in Lackawanna was on 1600 acres. Moses Taylor hospital opened >>in November 1903. >> >>Kevin >>---- Gail <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1411 - Release Date: 5/2/2008 > 8:02 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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There are some online records for Posen - maybe you already have seen these images but maybe not They are at the site familysearch.labs - images of baptism, marriage and death entries from the state copies of some parish registers for the provinces of Brandenburg and Posen, Germany. Most of the Posen villages are now in Poland. The collection is for browsing, not a direct search. I did not see the village name of Bidgoszcz but if you look through the list of villages maybe there is another one that is in the vicinity. the site is at labs.familysearch.org you have to register your email address to access the site. I have used it for over a year and am satisfied with all it has. Good luck, Sheila Walt Strzelewicz wrote: > I am looking for any information regarding my great grandfather: > Kazmierz Strzelewicz > Born- 4 March 1864 in Bidgoszcz, Posen, Germany. > He applied for citizenship 0n 21 Jan 1901. Listing an address of 127 > Lathrop St., Buffalo > I have a copy of the document > > Thank you > > Walter M. Strzelewicz > >

That's probably Bydgoszcz and it is in Poland. Polish provinces have since changed, you may want to research what province it is now in. A lot of the films are available through the LDS for this region. Anne (Percival) Kruszka Researching Bowman, Chinn, Davidson, Kettler, Kirtley, Klijewski, Knost, Kruszka, Maitland, Oliphant, Percival, Synos, Zalot & Zimmeth http://www.geocities.com/aperci/My_TN_Home.html http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v460/ackruszka/Cookeville%20Property/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Walt Strzelewicz Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYERIE] Strzelewicz I am looking for any information regarding my great grandfather: Kazmierz Strzelewicz Born- 4 March 1864 in Bidgoszcz, Posen, Germany. He applied for citizenship 0n 21 Jan 1901. Listing an address of 127 Lathrop St., Buffalo I have a copy of the document Thank you Walter M. Strzelewicz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I, also, recall a teacher by the name of Mrs. Long. At 03:54 PM 5/3/2008 -0700, you wrote: >I do recall the incident but not the name. > >At 03:41 PM 5/3/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Ruth - > > > >As a trivial Buffalo question, back in the early 1980s, do you recall a > >young man whose last name I think was Long, who was beaten up by several > >police officers and died? > > > >Grace > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

I believe that his name was Richard Long. Mary   -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of amzgrace Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Charles E. Long MD Hi Ruth - As a trivial Buffalo question, back in the early 1980s, do you recall a young man whose last name I think was Long, who was beaten up by several police officers and died? Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Charles E. Long MD > Oh never mind. I just realized that he Dr. Long signed your grandfathers > death certificate when your grandfather died. DUH...... > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do recall the incident but not the name. At 03:41 PM 5/3/2008 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Ruth - > >As a trivial Buffalo question, back in the early 1980s, do you recall a >young man whose last name I think was Long, who was beaten up by several >police officers and died? > >Grace

Hi Ruth - As a trivial Buffalo question, back in the early 1980s, do you recall a young man whose last name I think was Long, who was beaten up by several police officers and died? Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Charles E. Long MD > Oh never mind. I just realized that he Dr. Long signed your grandfathers > death certificate when your grandfather died. DUH...... > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Oh never mind. I just realized that he Dr. Long signed your grandfathers death certificate when your grandfather died. DUH......

I do recall the marker behind the library now that you bring it up. The library is a wonderful little hometown library. Very personable. I, always, took my kids there when they were little. I preferred it more then my local city library. I took my littlest to story hour every week until he started school. Besides the book "City of Light", there is also, a movie "Lackawanna Blues" about life across the bridge in Lackawanna. A black woman runs a boarding house for people that she brings up from the south. It's hard to get a hold of but it's great! Speaking about the Lackawanna Bridge on Ridge Road. When you visit Lackawanna, the bridge is being replaced. It's not closed but it's a bit of a mess. Rebuilding of the bridge will take another year or two. If the same lady in Vital Statistics is still there from the last several years, she is very nice and friendly. You can spark up a conversation with her and she'll give you her "eye teeth". When I went for my grandfather's death certificate, as she was copying it she asked me if I knew how he died. I told her that I did know he was electrocuted in the plant. She was concerned that I didn't know and it would be a shock to me. Ridge Road still is the home of the elite at Daisies Restaurant. The politicians from Lackawanna and South Buffalo still meet regularly for breakfast. I think that's how Daises was able to afford to move from the corner of Ridge Road and South Park to a few doors down on South Park and open up a beautiful remodeled restaurant. They made their money from the politician :) Now I'm confused. If Charles E. Long MD died in the SOCONY, Atlas Plant explosion on March 7, 1927, How did he sign my grandfathers death certificate on Aug. 15, 1928?? I'm looking at his signature as I'm writing this. You wrote: Charles E. Long was the physician that signed off on my Grandfather's death certificate. He was one of the two men that were killed in the SOCONY, Atlas Plant explosion on March 7, 1927.

I am looking for any information regarding my great grandfather: Kazmierz Strzelewicz Born- 4 March 1864 in Bidgoszcz, Posen, Germany. He applied for citizenship 0n 21 Jan 1901. Listing an address of 127 Lathrop St., Buffalo I have a copy of the document Thank you Walter M. Strzelewicz

They did buy out Union Ship Building Co but it was in Calif. I think. kevin ---- Amy Lathrop <[email protected]> wrote: ============= Bethlehem ship building did buy out Union Ship building at some point,but I think it was in the 60's. And I don't think the "main" offices and plant for that division was even in this state. Amy ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] NYERIE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 154 Vldg, I didn't see any mention of Union Iron mills as being one of the companies that merged into Bethlehem Steel Co. in the History of Lackawanna book I have. I also checked a book I have published in 1898 "Our Police and Our City" about Buffalo NY (over 900 pages) and find no mention of Union Iron Mills. Have you tried www.fultonhistory.com<http://www.fultonhistory.com/> and searched "Union Iron Mills" Kevin ---- [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: ============= In a message dated 5/2/2008 3:07:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: Bethlehem Steel in Lackawanna: Was there any connection between Bethlehem Steel and the Union Iron Mills in Buffalo in the 1870s? vldg **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001<http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know what the name of the old cemetery was that used to be under the library and it's parking lot? Reason I'm asking is that we've located two graves in the old family plot in Holy Cross cemetery that were moved from another location. ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Lathrop To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located The cemetery behind the library is "paved" over but there is a marker dedicated to the people buried there. The library and it's parking lot sits directly over what used to be that cemetery. I guess the story is, when they wanted to build the library, they new about the cemetery there, and moved the sites to Holy Cross. Years later when they expanded the parking lot, they discovered more graves they didn't know where there. Potter's cemetery is up Ridge, going towards city hall, but it can't be seen from Ridge Road, you can see it from Nasson Parkway, and access it better, since trying to find the way in from Ridge is difficult. It's someone's driveway now. And it is grown over, broken, and uncared for. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located There's a great gift shop in the lower level of the Basilica also. I don't know how much info you'll get from City Hall, (Lackawanna) but I would plan on going to the library a few blocks down Ridge and inquire there about the History. There's also an old cemetery behind it that few people know about. I've never been back there but plan to one day. I think someone told me it was pretty much grown over as its not taken care of anymore.Ruth is right, its a great area. Ridge Road in this area used to be the elite of the big shots in the days of the properous steel plant. Another good history lesson is in the book "City of Light" by Lauren Bekfer, The book is fictional, but based on a lot of Buffalo history around the turn of the century. Most of it takes place in North Buffalo around the Pan Am site, but there was a good chapter in it about her taking a day trip to visit the steel plant. I throughly enjoyed it. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located > I, also, wish to thank everyone who contributed to this subject. I've > lived in the Bethlehem Steel Plant area all my life and learned more about > it in the past few days then I have by living here. For the person who is > coming to the area - Lackawanna is a beautiful little city and you'll love > Victory Basilica and please visit the Botanical Gardens which is in > walking > distance from the church and don't forget the old cemetery in the same > area. You'll truly be in awe and very safe. City Hall is, also, in > walking distance from the church. This weekend the old OLV hospital is > having an open house for the newly renovated building which has been made > into a new senior community. It includes a dinning room, living room with > fireplace, kitchen, laundry room and bathing spa. In meantime funds will > be > raised for Father Baker Memorial Gaslight Park and "Main Street" > concourse, > which will include a chapel, barber/beauty shop, gift shop, lab collection > sit, history museum and other amenities. It's so nice that the building > won't sit empty. There is a wonderful new restaurant on South Park Avenue > between the Basilica and Botanical Gardens called Daisies that I'm sure > you'll enjoy. > > Ruth > > At 12:30 AM 5/3/2008 -0400, you wrote: >>According to my 1976 book "History of Lackawanna" there was a wing at OLV >>hospital called the Bethlehem-Taylor wing which was equiped to do surgery. >>This may have been after the Moses Taylor hospital was no longer in use. >>The book also say's that Moses Taylor was an early invester in the steel >>company when it was in Scranton PA (Abt 1860) and before all the mergers, >>name changes and move to Lackawanna around 1900. The company also owned an >>ore ship named the SS Moses Taylor which was the first ship to deliver ore >>to the docks at the new ship canal. The new plant that was to be >>constructed in Lackawanna was on 1600 acres. Moses Taylor hospital opened >>in November 1903. >> >>Kevin >>---- Gail <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1411 - Release Date: 5/2/2008 > 8:02 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. 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Bethlehem ship building did buy out Union Ship building at some point,but I think it was in the 60's. And I don't think the "main" offices and plant for that division was even in this state. Amy ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]eb.com<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] NYERIE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 154 Vldg, I didn't see any mention of Union Iron mills as being one of the companies that merged into Bethlehem Steel Co. in the History of Lackawanna book I have. I also checked a book I have published in 1898 "Our Police and Our City" about Buffalo NY (over 900 pages) and find no mention of Union Iron Mills. Have you tried www.fultonhistory.com<http://www.fultonhistory.com/> and searched "Union Iron Mills" Kevin ---- [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: ============= In a message dated 5/2/2008 3:07:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: Bethlehem Steel in Lackawanna: Was there any connection between Bethlehem Steel and the Union Iron Mills in Buffalo in the 1870s? vldg **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001<http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The cemetery behind the library is "paved" over but there is a marker dedicated to the people buried there. The library and it's parking lot sits directly over what used to be that cemetery. I guess the story is, when they wanted to build the library, they new about the cemetery there, and moved the sites to Holy Cross. Years later when they expanded the parking lot, they discovered more graves they didn't know where there. Potter's cemetery is up Ridge, going towards city hall, but it can't be seen from Ridge Road, you can see it from Nasson Parkway, and access it better, since trying to find the way in from Ridge is difficult. It's someone's driveway now. And it is grown over, broken, and uncared for. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located There's a great gift shop in the lower level of the Basilica also. I don't know how much info you'll get from City Hall, (Lackawanna) but I would plan on going to the library a few blocks down Ridge and inquire there about the History. There's also an old cemetery behind it that few people know about. I've never been back there but plan to one day. I think someone told me it was pretty much grown over as its not taken care of anymore.Ruth is right, its a great area. Ridge Road in this area used to be the elite of the big shots in the days of the properous steel plant. Another good history lesson is in the book "City of Light" by Lauren Bekfer, The book is fictional, but based on a lot of Buffalo history around the turn of the century. Most of it takes place in North Buffalo around the Pan Am site, but there was a good chapter in it about her taking a day trip to visit the steel plant. I throughly enjoyed it. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Madar" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located > I, also, wish to thank everyone who contributed to this subject. I've > lived in the Bethlehem Steel Plant area all my life and learned more about > it in the past few days then I have by living here. For the person who is > coming to the area - Lackawanna is a beautiful little city and you'll love > Victory Basilica and please visit the Botanical Gardens which is in > walking > distance from the church and don't forget the old cemetery in the same > area. You'll truly be in awe and very safe. City Hall is, also, in > walking distance from the church. This weekend the old OLV hospital is > having an open house for the newly renovated building which has been made > into a new senior community. It includes a dinning room, living room with > fireplace, kitchen, laundry room and bathing spa. In meantime funds will > be > raised for Father Baker Memorial Gaslight Park and "Main Street" > concourse, > which will include a chapel, barber/beauty shop, gift shop, lab collection > sit, history museum and other amenities. It's so nice that the building > won't sit empty. There is a wonderful new restaurant on South Park Avenue > between the Basilica and Botanical Gardens called Daisies that I'm sure > you'll enjoy. > > Ruth > > At 12:30 AM 5/3/2008 -0400, you wrote: >>According to my 1976 book "History of Lackawanna" there was a wing at OLV >>hospital called the Bethlehem-Taylor wing which was equiped to do surgery. >>This may have been after the Moses Taylor hospital was no longer in use. >>The book also say's that Moses Taylor was an early invester in the steel >>company when it was in Scranton PA (Abt 1860) and before all the mergers, >>name changes and move to Lackawanna around 1900. The company also owned an >>ore ship named the SS Moses Taylor which was the first ship to deliver ore >>to the docks at the new ship canal. The new plant that was to be >>constructed in Lackawanna was on 1600 acres. Moses Taylor hospital opened >>in November 1903. >> >>Kevin >>---- Gail <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1411 - Release Date: 5/2/2008 > 8:02 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great information, Kevin. I discovered a few more details. Putting them in chronological order helps me make sense of what may have happened. Moses Taylor died in the 1882. The present Moses Taylor Hospital is at 700 Quincy Avenue, Scranton, PA. and it was constructed n 1892 probably by his descendents or maybe even according to his estate. The Scranton, Moses Taylor Hospital was built for the treatment of the sick and injured coal miners and railroad workers who populated the area. It sounds like when the businesses were purchased in Lackawanna that the same pattern was followed. Perhaps they considered the Lackawanna Moses Taylor Hospital which opened in 1903 as a satellite of the one in Scranton or perhaps it was a necessity because there wasn't another hospital close enough. Our Lady of Victory Hospital wasn't built until 1919 so this Hospital was needed badly in 1903. Bethlehem Steel purchased Lackawanna Steel in 1922. I can imagine that with the OLV close at hand, the Moses Taylor Hospital wasn't needed as badly and funding the Bethlehem-Taylor wing in the OLV hospital may have been seen as a good alternative. You would think all this history would be written somewhere. Thanks again, Val On 3 May 2008 at 0:30, <[email protected]> wrote: > According to my 1976 book "History of Lackawanna" there was a wing at > OLV hospital called the Bethlehem-Taylor wing which was equiped to do > surgery. This may have been after the Moses Taylor hospital was no > longer in use. The book also say's that Moses Taylor was an early > invester in the steel company when it was in Scranton PA (Abt 1860) > and before all the mergers, name changes and move to Lackawanna around > 1900. The company also owned an ore ship named the SS Moses Taylor > which was the first ship to deliver ore to the docks at the new ship > canal. The new plant that was to be constructed in Lackawanna was on > 1600 acres. Moses Taylor hospital opened in November 1903. > > Kevin > ---- Gail <[email protected]> wrote: > > ============= > According to my friend, the operations were performed at the building > site at the beginning of Bethlehem Steel property (Buffalo side ) on > the lake front on route 5 Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: > "Val" <[email protected]> To: "Amy Lathrop" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: Re: > [NYERIE] Moses Taylor Hospital located > > > >I certainly hope you see angels fly in your sleep. Great job. > > > > Perhaps the small hospital next to the main office was just for cuts > > and minor injuries. There must have been many of those since there > > were so many injuries that actually lead to death. > > > > One last article I found at the great site you were using for > > newspapers: > > > > Newspaper Buffalo NY Morning Express 1903 > > > > One of the features of the Lackawanna Steel Company's plant that > > attest the breadth of view of those who have founded that > > institution is the Moses Taylor Hospital that has been designed for > > the benefit of employees of the plant. It will be a big building > > 100 feet long, with wings running back 30 (?) feet and within the > > best ideas as to modern hospital equipment will be employed. > > > > Thanks for all your time and help. > > > > Val > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 May 2008 at 3:08, Amy Lathrop <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Mystery solved. Moses Taylor Hospital was on Ridge Road, Across > >> from Holland Ave, between the "R.C. church" and the "Polish > >> church". So essentially, it was where the Friendship House is now. > >> Actually, the playground is situatated over the hospitals > >> footprint. > >> > >> However, according to the 1915 map I am viewing at > >> http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlate.php?country > >> =US > >> &m=38751<http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlate.ph > >> p?c ountry=US&m=38751> there is also a small hospital next to the > >> main office on Hamburg Turnpike. > >> > >> > >> I can sleep now. > >> > >> > >> > >> Niters, > >> > >> Amy > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1411 - Release Date: > > 5/2/2008 8:02 AM > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You are right as always George. Jann Numbers 6:24-26 ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Richmond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYERIE] Perry Projects & Bethlehem Steel > >This has been very interesting to me. My family comes from near the > >railroad >>track in Buffalo. They are the Texters, Knorr, Reumanns, Rich is still in >>the eyes of the beholder isn't it. >>Jann Whalen Parks > > Jann, > Being "near the railroad tracks" is a description that could apply > to most of Buffalo east of Main street. > George > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message