This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmagha Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jack, think you have good working assumptions. See below, 1870 is a missing entry; haven't tracked it down, yet. Her mother died of typhoid in Rochester, just after arriving from the Palatine with the family. Appolonia had married Philip Schaad by that time, and I have talked with Philip's descendants. Elizabeth went with the family to Poughkeepsie, and at some point after Balthasar and Sophie's deaths, she goes to Hammondsport, New York, during her teen years. Lorenz's sister Barbara married one of the Argus's in Poughkeepie, and they farmed grapes at Hammondsport for a while, before going west. That may be the connection to Keuka Lake. In any event, Elizabeth stays in Hammondsport, and then treks up to Rochester as an adult. 1922 - Death of Elizabeth Ramstetter Meyer ("Housewife", aged 68 years, 10 months, 17 days) at home -- 927 Clifford Avenue -- attended by Dr. J.S. Kominz, after an illness of 24 hours. The informant, George E. Meyer, is her son and resides at her home. She died of Angina Pectoris, aggrevated by Chronic Myocarditis and Diabetes Mellitus. She is listed as the "Widow of Joseph"; her parents are generally unknown -- but known to be from "Germany". It is thought that her maiden name was "Ramstetter", but a question mark precedes the father's name. Mattle performed the funeral services at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. 1920 - In the 1920 Census, the widow Elizabeth (aged 65) -- for whom German is still her mother tongue -- presides as head of household over the second Meyer home, 927 Clifford Avenue (307th Family/464th Dwelling). Her son Jacob presides over the house next door. With Elizabeth are sons Clarence (aged 29), George (aged 27), son-in-law Frank Simpson (aged 40), daughter Bertha (aged 39), and Simpson grandchildren Avilda (aged 16) and Charles (age 12). 1920 Census_[CITE]. 1910 - The 1910 Census lists widow Elizabeth (aged 56) as head of household at 927 Clifford Avenue (Dwelling 114/Family 228), living with Edward (aged 34), his spouse Carrie M. (aged 30), and children Marion F. (aged 23), Joseph H. (aged 20), Clarence (aged 15), and George (aged 15). Elizabeth's son Jacob (aged 36) now lives next store at 925 Clifford Avenue. 1910 Census_NY_Monroe_Rochester WD8_SD16_ED89_340_Sheet 11B (April 23, 1910). 1900 - See entry under spouse Joseph A. Meyer. 1890 - Census lost in Commerce Department fire. 1880 - See entry under spouse Joseph A. Meyer. 1870 - [THREAD, see Poughkeepsie, Hammondsport] 1860 - See listing under grandfather, Balthasar. N.B. Tradition has it that Elizabeth was orphaned at an early age. She was supposedly placed in the care of Saint Mary's Parish at Bath, New York (or St. Joseph's Church in Rochester, N.Y.). When she came of age, Elizabeth was allegedly transferred to Saint Joseph's Church in Rochester, New York. Apprenticed in a hat shop, she also sang in Saint Joseph's choir. There she met the wood carver, Joseph Meyer. The factual record supports some of this legend. Elizabeth emigrated from Bavaria in 1855 with her family. They came through New York City, and may have taken the "Immigrant Train" to the Southern Tier of New York State. Mother Apollonia contracted some fatal disease four (4) years after arriving in the United States, when the family was still in Rochester, may have contracted typhoid. The Ramstetter family later moved to the Hudson Valley. Elizabeth was left at Saint Joseph's, as an orphan. She was in the choir, and did meet the woodcarver, Joseph Meyer. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.