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    1. Re: [NYDUTCHE] NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269
    2. Mark

    3. Harlem has always been in Manhattan. (New York County)(Mark Lefler) -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of nydutche-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:01 AM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269 Today's Topics: 1. Need to know what county Harlem is in. (pam holeton) 2. Re: Need to know what county Harlem is in. (Sam Ferguson) 3. Re: Need to know what county Harlem is in. (Barbara de Mare) 4. Re: Need to know what county Harlem is in. (Ann O'Hara) 5. Re: Need to know what county Harlem is in. (Barbara de Mare) 6. Re: Need to know what county Harlem is in. (Peter Wilde) 7. Re: Need to know what county Harlem is in. (Ann O'Hara) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 06:41:35 -0700 (PDT) From: pam holeton <pam_39_1960@yahoo.com> Subject: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. To: NYDUTCHE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <547447.19024.qm@web81606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just starting this line, and Harlem, New York is the first clue, for now. ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still don't want to quit..... www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton Pam Holeton Piqua,Ohio Miami County www.findagrave.com currently working on Forest Hill cemetery(Piqua) Cedar hill cemetery(Piqua) Johnston cemeterys. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:36:21 -0500 From: "Sam Ferguson" <samf1@tlabwireless.net> Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. To: <pam_39_1960@yahoo.com>, <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000901c81e26$e76efbe0$6400000a@D3M5TW81> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original As I recall, Harlem is in the Bronx. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pam holeton" <pam_39_1960@yahoo.com> To: <NYDUTCHE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:41 AM Subject: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. > Just starting this line, and Harlem, New York is the first clue, for now. > > > ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines > all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still > don't want to quit..... > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton > Pam Holeton > Piqua,Ohio > Miami County > www.findagrave.com > currently working on Forest Hill cemetery(Piqua) Cedar hill > cemetery(Piqua) Johnston cemeterys. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:53:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Barbara de Mare <barbarademare@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <96053.94241.qm@web56908.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 No, it's in Manhattan which is New York County. Sam Ferguson <samf1@tlabwireless.net> wrote: As I recall, Harlem is in the Bronx. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pam holeton" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:41 AM Subject: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. > Just starting this line, and Harlem, New York is the first clue, for now. > > > ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines > all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still > don't want to quit..... > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton > Pam Holeton > Piqua,Ohio > Miami County > www.findagrave.com > currently working on Forest Hill cemetery(Piqua) Cedar hill > cemetery(Piqua) Johnston cemeterys. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 13:31:41 -0400 From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002201c81e3f$6617fc40$e7162c46@Button> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original And of course it was a separate community to begin with. Depends on the time period. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:39:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Barbara de Mare <barbarademare@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <962084.73105.qm@web56905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The question asked was "what county Harlem IS in." (emphasis added) Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> wrote: And of course it was a separate community to begin with. Depends on the time period. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" To: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 15:49:19 -0400 From: "Peter Wilde" <pvdwilde@cox.net> Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <012e01c81e52$a04d2120$6701a8c0@p1193w> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Barbara is right, New York County. It's above Central Park where the island starts to narrow between the Hudson and East Rivers. Remember "Swinging on Lenox Ave" which starts at the north end of Central Park and goes to about 145th St. The center of Harlem is around 125th St. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. > No, it's in Manhattan which is New York County. > > Sam Ferguson <samf1@tlabwireless.net> wrote: As I recall, Harlem is in > the Bronx. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pam holeton" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:41 AM > Subject: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. > > >> Just starting this line, and Harlem, New York is the first clue, for now. >> >> >> ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines >> all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still >> don't want to quit..... >> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton >> Pam Holeton >> Piqua,Ohio >> Miami County >> www.findagrave.com >> currently working on Forest Hill cemetery(Piqua) Cedar hill >> cemetery(Piqua) Johnston cemeterys. >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:42:19 -0400 From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003401c81e6a$cb3c4330$e7162c46@Button> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original True, but the original request referred to Harlem, NY, which suggests an earlier date. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Need to know what county Harlem is in. > The question asked was "what county Harlem IS in." (emphasis added) > > Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> wrote: And of course it was a separate > community to begin with. Depends on the > time period. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" > To: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ To contact the NYDUTCHE list administrator, send an email to NYDUTCHE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NYDUTCHE mailing list, send an email to NYDUTCHE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269 ****************************************

    11/04/2007 02:06:54
    1. Re: [NYDUTCHE] NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269
    2. Ann O'Hara

    3. As a matter of fact, it hasn't. It was originally a town settled by the Dutch and named New Harlem for the European City and with its own records and history. Many towns (Harlem, Brooklyn, Flatbush, Bushwick, etc.) were gradually absorbed as NYC grew. My point was that if an ancestor lived in Harlem in the 17th century, it was an independent municipality with its own records and history (See Riker's History of Harlem, available on Google Books) . Geographically, of course, it is located today in what is now the Borough of Manhattan. In my mind anyway, the original query did not specify a time period. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" <markl8@optonline.net> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269 > Harlem has always been in Manhattan. (New York County)(Mark Lefler) > > -----Original Message-----

    11/05/2007 12:26:45
    1. Re: [NYDUTCHE] NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269
    2. Grant Pike

    3. Ann you are correct. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269 > As a matter of fact, it hasn't. It was originally a town settled by the Dutch and named New Harlem for the European City and with its own records and history. Many towns (Harlem, Brooklyn, Flatbush, Bushwick, etc.) were gradually absorbed as NYC grew. My point was that if an ancestor lived in Harlem in the 17th century, it was an independent municipality with its own records and history (See Riker's History of Harlem, available on Google Books) . Geographically, of course, it is located today in what is now the Borough of Manhattan. In my mind anyway, the original query did not specify a time period. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark" <markl8@optonline.net> > To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:06 PM > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 269 > > > > Harlem has always been in Manhattan. (New York County)(Mark Lefler) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/05/2007 02:13:15