Linda, Thank you for this. I thought I had exhausted all the Quaker records but there are many more, thanks to James Hazard (and you for letting us know about it). Best, Doris -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda C. Koehler Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:51 AM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY Carol, Just a quick review of Quaker records-- Local meetings called meetings for worship or Preparative Meetings (PMs) conducted their own weekly worship meetings; it was this local group that attended church in the building called a meeting house. Delegates from these local weekly meetings attended a Monthly Meeting, a regional meeting with territorial jurisdiction which met once a month for business; two or more meetings for worship would constitute a Monthly Meeting (historically). Going up the ladder and covering larger geographic areas, there was also a Quarterly Meeting (delegates met 4 times a year) and a Yearly Meeting (delegates met once a year). For the genealogist, it is the Monthly Meeting records that are most important, since their minutes and record books contain the Society's vital records. The Monthly Meeting could hold property, accept and expel members, issue and accept removal certificates (requests to move from one Monthly Meeting to another Monthly Meeting, thus showing where people migrated and the approximate time they made the move), record marriages, accept and record reports of the local meetings about births and deaths. A Monthly Meeting often took the name of one of its local meetings or perhaps the town which had the most PM's, but the Monthly Meeting is a separate entity from any of the meetings for worship under its control. Even if one knows the name of the local meeting house that a Friend probably attended, it is important to know which Monthly Meeting it belonged to, since vital records will be recorded there. The Dutchess County meetings most likely to include members who lived in the Beekman Patent would be Oblong MM (the earliest) and Oswego MM. Original Dutchess County Quaker records have been deposited at Swarthmore Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA 19081-1397 (Telephone 610- 328-8000). Website: <http://www.swarthmore.edu/>. An online catalog can be accessed at <http://www.swarthmore.edu/fhl.xml>. And as mentioned before, many of these records have been filmed by LDS. But, the jackpot here is that James E. Hazard created a name index to New York Yearly Meeting records that can be accessed online at <www.swarthmore.edu/library/friends/hazard/index.html>. You didn't have to be Quaker to be buried in a Friends' Cemetery. Conversely, in many of their early burying grounds, Friends preferred not to mark graves with headstones, so you have to hope they are mentioned in the records of a burial committee. Linda At 03:01 AM 1/24/2008, you wrote: >Today's Topics: > 6. Re: Quakers in Duchess Co,NY (cheap@simon.com) >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:37:52 -0500 >From: cheap@simon.com >Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY >To: nydutche@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <OF02AEE58B.6CA45104-ON852573D9.007660C2@simon.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Charlotte, >"A suggestion to all of you researching in Duchess county--whether or >not they were Quaker, and especially if you are not familiar with >Duchess Co. reference books---Look for copies of the several VOLUMES >of ' SETTLERS of the BEEKMAN PATENT' by DOHERTY, Frank J.. Vol.1 was >pub. in 1990. I think Mr. Doherty is now on Vol. 6 or 7. This man will >be or is already --a Duchess Co. HERO." > >Are you saying that many of the people in Beekman Patent were Quakers? >I have 2 people buried in "The Friends cemetery" in Dutchess. >Elizabeth & John DICKINSON, John died 1845 any suggestions on how to >search for Quaker info for someone who has never had a Quaker in the >family tree before? > >Thanks, >Carol L. Heap >Florida > >------------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
My thanks also, as now I find Valentine Jenkins Sr had a son Joshua Jenkins. fran in mi -----Original Message----- From: Doris Wheeler <doriswheeler@bellsouth.net> To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY Linda, Thank you for this. I thought I had exhausted all the Quaker records but there are many more, thanks to James Hazard (and you for letting us know about it). Best, Doris -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda C. Koehler Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:51 AM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY Carol, Just a quick review of Quaker records-- Local meetings called meetings for worship or Preparative Meetings (PMs) conducted their own weekly worship meetings; it was this local group that attended church in the building called a meeting house. Delegates from these local weekly meetings attended a Monthly Meeting, a regional meeting with territorial jurisdiction which met once a month for business; two or more meetings for worship would constitute a Monthly Meeting (historically). Going up the ladder and covering larger geographic areas, there was also a Quarterly Meeting (delegates met 4 times a year) and a Yearly Meeting (delegates met once a year). For the genealogist, it is the Monthly Meeting records that are most important, since their minutes and record books contain the Society's vital records. The Monthly Meeting could hold property, accept and expel members, issue and accept removal certificates (requests to move from one Monthly Meeting to another Monthly Meeting, thus showing where people migrated and the approximate time they made the move), record marriages, accept and record reports of the local meetings about births and deaths. A Monthly Meeting often took the name of one of its local meetings or perhaps the town which had the most PM's, but the Monthly Meeting is a separate entity from any of the meetings for worship under its control. Even if one knows the name of the local meeting house that a Friend probably attended, it is important to know which Monthly Meeting it belonged to, since vital records will be recorded there. The Dutchess County meetings most likely to include members who lived in the Beekman Patent would be Oblong MM (the earliest) and Oswego MM. Original Dutchess County Quaker records have been deposited at Swarthmore Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA 19081-1397 (Telephone 610- 328-8000). Website: <http://www.swarthmore.edu/>. An online catalog can be accessed at <http://www.swarthmore.edu/fhl.xml>. And as mentioned before, many of these records have been filmed by LDS. But, the jackpot here is that James E. Hazard created a name index to New York Yearly Meeting records that can be accessed online at <www.swarthmore.edu/library/friends/hazard/index.html>. You didn't have to be Quaker to be buried in a Friends' Cemetery. Conversely, in many of their early burying grounds, Friends preferred not to mark graves with headstones, so you have to hope they are mentioned in the records of a burial committee. Linda At 03:01 AM 1/24/2008, you wrote: >Today's Topics: > 6. Re: Quakers in Duchess Co,NY (cheap@simon.com) >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:37:52 -0500 >From: cheap@simon.com >Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY >To: nydutche@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <OF02AEE58B.6CA45104-ON852573D9.007660C2@simon.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Charlotte, >"A suggestion to all of you researching in Duchess county--whether or >not they were Quaker, and especially if you are not familiar with >Duchess Co. reference books---Look for copies of the several VOLUMES >of ' SETTLERS of the BEEKMAN PATENT' by DOHERTY, Frank J.. Vol.1 was >pub. in 1990. I think Mr. Doherty is now on Vol. 6 or 7. This man will >be or is already --a Duchess Co. HERO." > >Are you saying that many of the people in Beekman Patent were Quakers? >I have 2 people buried in "The Friends cemetery" in Dutchess. >Elizabeth & John DICKINSON, John died 1845 any suggestions on how to >search for Quaker info for someone who has never had a Quaker in the >family tree before? > >Thanks, >Carol L. Heap >Florida > >------------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
also forgot to include dau. Abigail Jenkins found in that index......now this makes more sense in my West family research out of Dutchess Co NY ...Samuel West is m. to Margaret Jenkins of Dover and his brother William Barber West is m. to "an" Abigail and as their son is living "next door" to Jedediah Jenkins, cousin of Margaret in Queensbury, the dots are now beginning to connect. Only took 18 years. This Jenkins line "were not" Quakers by birth,? they were Baptists...only Valentine Jenkins with his family joined? the Oblong M.M.in? 1776 and he was disowned in 1789. Several daughters were also disowned. As this Jenkins line was in Dover, Dutchess Co Ny I am looking closer at the Benjamin West? OF DOVER that killed himself in 1817. 1790 Pawling census shows "a" Benjamin West? having 5 males under age 16, 2 over 16 ( one being Ben). If he had a son age 16 in 1790 then this Benjamin would have been born abot 1754 which puts him the age group of Samuel and William Barber West. As I cannot find him in the online census index in 1800? he may have been older. I doubt he is the Benjamin b 1733 brother of William b. 1717 who had David 1752 in Amenia. fran in mi -----Original Message----- From: swftotter@aol.com To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 1:48 pm Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY My thanks also, as now I find Valentine Jenkins Sr had a son Joshua Jenkins. fran in mi -----Original Message----- From: Doris Wheeler <doriswheeler@bellsouth.net> To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY Linda, Thank you for this. I thought I had exhausted all the Quaker records but there are many more, thanks to James Hazard (and you for letting us know about it). Best, Doris -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda C. Koehler Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:51 AM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY Carol, Just a quick review of Quaker records-- Local meetings called meetings for worship or Preparative Meetings (PMs) conducted their own weekly worship meetings; it was this local group that attended church in the building called a meeting house. Delegates from these local weekly meetings attended a Monthly Meeting, a regional meeting with territorial jurisdiction which met once a month for business; two or more meetings for worship would constitute a Monthly Meeting (historically). Going up the ladder and covering larger geographic areas, there was also a Quarterly Meeting (delegates met 4 times a year) and a Yearly Meeting (delegates met once a year). For the genealogist, it is the Monthly Meeting records that are most important, since their minutes and record books contain the Society's vital records. The Monthly Meeting could hold property, accept and expel members, issue and accept removal certificates (requests to move from one Monthly Meeting to another Monthly Meeting, thus showing where people migrated and the approximate time they made the move), record marriages, accept and record reports of the local meetings about births and deaths. A Monthly Meeting often took the name of one of its local meetings or perhaps the town which had the most PM's, but the Monthly Meeting is a separate entity from any of the meetings for worship under its control. Even if one knows the name of the local meeting house that a Friend probably attended, it is important to know which Monthly Meeting it belonged to, since vital records will be recorded there. The Dutchess County meetings most likely to include members who lived in the Beekman Patent would be Oblong MM (the earliest) and Oswego MM. Original Dutchess County Quaker records have been deposited at Swarthmore Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA 19081-1397 (Telephone 610- 328-8000). Website: <http://www.swarthmore.edu/>. An online catalog can be accessed at <http://www.swarthmore.edu/fhl.xml>. And as mentioned before, many of these records have been filmed by LDS. But, the jackpot here is that James E. Hazard created a name index to New York Yearly Meeting records that can be accessed online at <www.swarthmore.edu/library/friends/hazard/index.html>. You didn't have to be Quaker to be buried in a Friends' Cemetery. Conversely, in many of their early burying grounds, Friends preferred not to mark graves with headstones, so you have to hope they are mentioned in the records of a burial committee. Linda At 03:01 AM 1/24/2008, you wrote: >Today's Topics: > 6. Re: Quakers in Duchess Co,NY (cheap@simon.com) >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:37:52 -0500 >From: cheap@simon.com >Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess Co,NY >To: nydutche@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <OF02AEE58B.6CA45104-ON852573D9.007660C2@simon.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Charlotte, >"A suggestion to all of you researching in Duchess county--whether or >not they were Quaker, and especially if you are not familiar with >Duchess Co. reference books---Look for copies of the several VOLUMES >of ' SETTLERS of the BEEKMAN PATENT' by DOHERTY, Frank J.. Vol.1 was >pub. in 1990. I think Mr. Doherty is now on Vol. 6 or 7. This man will >be or is already --a Duchess Co. HERO." > >Are you saying that many of the people in Beekman Patent were Quakers? >I have 2 people buried in "The Friends cemetery" in Dutchess. >Elizabeth & John DICKINSON, John died 1845 any suggestions on how to >search for Quaker info for someone who has never had a Quaker in the >family tree before? > >Thanks, >Carol L. Heap >Florida > >------------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com