You also don't have to be Quaker to be buried in a Quaker cemetery. One set of my grandparents are buried in the Friends Upton Lakes Cemetery in Clinton Corners--near the meetinghouse where they met at a grange dance. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: C J Sheldon <cjsheldonim@gmail.com> To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:04:51 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Quakers in Duchess County,NYS Dear Carol, Now that the holiday weekend is over and my company has gone, I will focus on some suggestions concerning QUAKER research. Partly this depends on which century and partly on the location. "My' Quakers were first found in Westchaster Co.,NY. but had migrated from Long Island.There were Quaker meetings both in Long Island, New Amsterdam / New York City[ by 1657] ,and north in counties along the Hudson or in the Dutch, then British Manor holdings very early. The family in question was VAIL / Veale / Vale /etc.The first 2 gens. do not mention Quaker connections[1650 to 1695]. Gen.3 [1696--at least maybe 1722]- this gen.in Westchester [Town of Eastchester] were Presbyterian. However from notes about some of the children, three of 6 children have mentions Quaker affiliations and of migration to Duchess Co.,NY and affiliations with Monthly Meetings there [from here on called M.M.s] .These children were born in 1722,1724,and 1736. Earlier MM's in L.IS / NYC area were as early as1660 and 1671-on In New England- Puritan-shunned Quakers out of MA. but they were allowed in Rh.IS. by Roger Williams-another of my ancestors. So, some of my RH.IS. ancestors moved to Duchess Co. It was .inevitable' for a VAIL to marry a SHERMAN from R.IS. in D.CO., ,then a SHERMAN - daughter married a SMITH Quaker--and I am a GT-GR.Child from the last of the Smith Quakers in D.CO. and they were faithful to their deaths in 1883 and 1896.Most are buried in the Pleasant Valley / Quaker cemetery and I have visited there and teken some pictures. Quakers were NOT all buried there. It depended on the MM. you attended, where you owned land and lived, and the time-again. Because it is late and I am tired, I will list 2 or 3 sources I found most helpful, Carol. --Kelly,A. Marriage Notices from Duchess Co.Newspapers.1826-1851. Rhinebeck,NY ---DEATH V.R.s from CREEK MM. 1828-1916 [Crum Elbow District. ----Encyclopediaof American Quaker Gemealogy.by Hinshaw,W. I used VOL. 3: Records of Long Island and NYC,NY.--and 1827 Hicksite Census.****These were especially helpful because the early Duchess Co. families were listed in generally recognizable family groups---- IF they were HICKSITE. Mine WERE Hicksite. I cannot give information on the 'breakaway' group. ----On film from the F.H.Library in SLCity--are many listings of minutes from the MM.s I found these interesting to get a feeling about a general 'flow' of business over time. They might have info. pertinent to an ancestor, or not. Usually,marriagesare mentioned and transfers to other MM.s, and notice of 'outings'--my word for a member when discharged from a MM. when they 'married. out' or broke rulessuch as drinking,etc. The single most helpful piece of info. for me---was to find out --among CREEK,OBLONG,PLEASANT VALLEY,AND STANFORD MM.s--- WHICH was 1st. which was formed next, etc. as more people moved into the area.Sometimes these changes somewhat paralled the formation of new political precincts-in Duchess Co. Carol, there is a centralized place for Quaker History. They can be paid to do library research. At this moment, I am blank on the place--it is at a univ. and I am thinking Rutgers-- but not sure. Try-Quaker-on the internet. There is MUCH. Charlotte J.Sheldon. On Mar 18, 2008, at 6:42 AM, cheap@simon.com wrote: "NYS Quaker Meeting Group book" Charlotte, Where would I find this book? I am new to researching Quakers & I have a DICKINSON family John & wife Elizabeth buried in the Friends cemetery in Dutchess Co. John died in 1845. Thanks, Carol L. Heap FL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message