Hi Doris, Have you tried the link below before? It seems to have the information you placed here for me. Perhaps you already know of it. I personally have not been on the Long Island site in some time. It is a wonderful site. My great great grandfather Anthony/Antony "Toto" Golden lived in the Roslyn > Hempstead > Port Washington area after coming to the US in the very early 1800's from Ireland. One of his sons, Thomas Tabor Golden (my great grandfather) moved to Hyde Park, NY and married a Schryver...which started what I know of my mothers family. I do know there are Montross and Worden's in the mix somewhere, but exactly where I can not tell you (through the Roger's and Hall connections). One of Samuel's wives...Isabell Quick is also related through marriage to my mom's family/her first husbands family of Roosa's. The late Mrs. ? Worden that did alot of research on the Worden's and many families of Dutchess Co. may have written of your Renselar Case. I do believe alot of her work is with the NY Genealogy Society in New York City. I think I even bought one of her cd's before she past away. (Though I did find some of it to be incorrect as far as my family is concerned.) You may also try contacting a Dr. David Roberts...he is on the Brooklyn/New York/Long Island rootsweb mailing lists. He posted Long Island newspaper articles where I found the death annoucment of my great great grandmother, Eliza (Curtin?) Golden's death at Hudson River State in 1891. He is very knowledgeable. http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/southard/fam00012.htm One day you and I will find our family connection...I know there is one there. Feel free to contact me if you want to treat ancestors...I am sure you have more knowledge than I. With 13 children in my mom's immediate family I have trouble connecting the dots. Good luck, Ro Doriswheeler <doriswheeler@bellsouth.net> wrote: Dear Ro, Very interesting! Renselaer Case was a merchant, I find in Smith's History after reading your reply. My ancestor was Renselaer Case Worden b. 1841, and he lived in Milan. His father was Samuel Montross Worden. Do any of these names mean anything to you? Do you have any idea why my ancestor would have been named for this Renselaer Case? Thanks! Doris Alternate email: doriswh@gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Can you help" I found the following (see link below) I thought to be of interest to you; Milan was largely a farming and mill town giving birth to its name today. Known by many as the "Mill Lands" for its rolling farmland and numerous gristmills. Milanville -- Location of the "Milan" Post Office from 1818 to 1908 and located at the junction of Salisbury Turnkpike and Milan Hollow Road this area is now known as "Case's Corner" after Rensselaer Case. Sources: US Federal Census Records; "History of Dutchess County New York," James H. Smith, 1882, D. Mason & Co. publisher; "History of Little Nine Partners," Issac Huntting, 1897. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan,_New_York Hope this helps you, Ro Milan Paddock wrote: I had some relatives in the area named Milan - that's how I got my name. For whom was Milan named? PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: Hi Milan is a Town located in the northern part of Dutchess County NY. It was founded in 1760 by Johannes Rowe a Palatine who purchased 911 acres from Robert Livingston at that time. It was part of the None Partners Patent (western part). During the years of 1818-1908 there was a a Milan PO. The area is now called Case's Corners and is located at Salisbury Turnpike and Milan Hollow Rd. in Dutchess County NY Pat R ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal

Dear Ro, Very interesting! Renselaer Case was a merchant, I find in Smith's History after reading your reply. My ancestor was Renselaer Case Worden b. 1841, and he lived in Milan. His father was Samuel Montross Worden. Do any of these names mean anything to you? Do you have any idea why my ancestor would have been named for this Renselaer Case? Thanks! Doris Alternate email: doriswh@gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Can you help" I found the following (see link below) I thought to be of interest to you; Milan was largely a farming and mill town giving birth to its name today. Known by many as the "Mill Lands" for its rolling farmland and numerous gristmills. Milanville -- Location of the "Milan" Post Office from 1818 to 1908 and located at the junction of Salisbury Turnkpike and Milan Hollow Road this area is now known as "Case's Corner" after Rensselaer Case. Sources: US Federal Census Records; "History of Dutchess County New York," James H. Smith, 1882, D. Mason & Co. publisher; "History of Little Nine Partners," Issac Huntting, 1897. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan,_New_York Hope this helps you, Ro Milan Paddock <milanpaddock@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I had some relatives in the area named Milan - that's how I got my name. For whom was Milan named? PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: Hi Milan is a Town located in the northern part of Dutchess County NY. It was founded in 1760 by Johannes Rowe a Palatine who purchased 911 acres from Robert Livingston at that time. It was part of the None Partners Patent (western part). During the years of 1818-1908 there was a a Milan PO. The area is now called Case's Corners and is located at Salisbury Turnpike and Milan Hollow Rd. in Dutchess County NY Pat R ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All information helps. Thank you Grant

And, the locals tell me it is pronounced MYE-lin and not like the city in Italy. -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MA2QUILT2@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:07 AM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Milan Yes there is a town called Milan, near Tivoli/Red Hook area

Thank you all, each and everyone . I have had many replies. I appreciate your help. Grant

Hi Milan is a Town located in the northern part of Dutchess County NY. It was founded in 1760 by Johannes Rowe a Palatine who purchased 911 acres from Robert Livingston at that time. It was part of the None Partners Patent (western part). During the years of 1818-1908 there was a a Milan PO. The area is now called Case's Corners and is located at Salisbury Turnpike and Milan Hollow Rd. in Dutchess County NY Pat R

Milan is in northern Dutchess County. I pass it going to my relatives. Debbie >From: PADDY43@aol.com >Date: 2007/12/05 Wed AM 10:12:17 CST >To: nydutche@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Can you help" >yes there is a Milan NY but not sure may be in Ulster Co. not sure but in >that area > > > >**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest >products. >(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the following (see link below) I thought to be of interest to you; Milan was largely a farming and mill town giving birth to its name today. Known by many as the "Mill Lands" for its rolling farmland and numerous gristmills. Milanville -- Location of the "Milan" Post Office from 1818 to 1908 and located at the junction of Salisbury Turnkpike and Milan Hollow Road this area is now known as "Case's Corner" after Rensselaer Case. Sources: US Federal Census Records; "History of Dutchess County New York," James H. Smith, 1882, D. Mason & Co. publisher; "History of Little Nine Partners," Issac Huntting, 1897. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan,_New_York Hope this helps you, Ro Milan Paddock <milanpaddock@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I had some relatives in the area named Milan - that's how I got my name. For whom was Milan named? PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: Hi Milan is a Town located in the northern part of Dutchess County NY. It was founded in 1760 by Johannes Rowe a Palatine who purchased 911 acres from Robert Livingston at that time. It was part of the None Partners Patent (western part). During the years of 1818-1908 there was a a Milan PO. The area is now called Case's Corners and is located at Salisbury Turnpike and Milan Hollow Rd. in Dutchess County NY Pat R ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal

yes there is a Milan NY but not sure may be in Ulster Co. not sure but in that area **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

I had some relatives in the area named Milan - that's how I got my name. For whom was Milan named? PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: Hi Milan is a Town located in the northern part of Dutchess County NY. It was founded in 1760 by Johannes Rowe a Palatine who purchased 911 acres from Robert Livingston at that time. It was part of the None Partners Patent (western part). During the years of 1818-1908 there was a a Milan PO. The area is now called Case's Corners and is located at Salisbury Turnpike and Milan Hollow Rd. in Dutchess County NY Pat R ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you all who answered. Red Hook I knew ... Milan I missed knowing. Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "kelly 6424" <kelly6424@hotmail.com> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com>; "NYDUTCHE" <nydutche-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Can you help" You have it correct---the town is "Milan". Kelly Gray Griffin- Gray-Devlin NY > From: grel@ix.netcom.com > To: NYDUTCHE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:38:58 -0500 > Subject: [NYDUTCHE] Can you help" > > Received an 1850 census image in which the city is smudged. A copy of what it appears to be is......Milan. Dutchess County. Has anyone ever heard of Milan or something close? Grant > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You have it correct---the town is "Milan". Kelly Gray Griffin- Gray-Devlin NY > From: grel@ix.netcom.com > To: NYDUTCHE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:38:58 -0500 > Subject: [NYDUTCHE] Can you help" > > Received an 1850 census image in which the city is smudged. A copy of what it appears to be is......Milan. Dutchess County. Has anyone ever heard of Milan or something close? Grant > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007

Yes there is a town called Milan, near Tivoli/Red Hook area **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Received an 1850 census image in which the city is smudged. A copy of what it appears to be is......Milan. Dutchess County. Has anyone ever heard of Milan or something close? Grant

Bill, I would love a copy of your NYC write up. You many send direct to my e-mail address. Thank you. Linda **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Dear Bill and Cathy, Thank you so much. As a displaced New Yorker in Georgia, I dream of the City and can't get my fill on my all too short, infrequent visits. I would be thrilled to have your writeup. Please send it to my alternate email, below. Many thanks! Doris Wheeler Alternate email: doriswh@gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cathy McGrath To: nycolumb ; nydutche ; ny-hudsonrv@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: [NYDUTCHE] Off Topic - New York Sights If anyone is interested, I have a fifteen page write up on selected New York City sights that can be sent to you as an attachment. The listing covers 47 areas of interest (museums, Christmas window displays outlining this year's window themes, famous buildings, interesting restaurants, impressive hotel lobbies, etc.) and is arranged in descending order from 104th Street to 12th Street.. If you aren't familiar with New York City street sequences, the order of the Avenues from the East River to the Hudson River is also listed to help you out. The items on my list, with addresses and side street locations and some interesting historical facts are: 1. Museum of the City of New York. 2. Tree Lights On Park Avenue. 3. Metropolitan Museum of Art. 4. Rhinelander Mansion/Ralph Lauren Store. 5. The Frick Collection 6. The Crystal District. 7. Barney's. - Christmas Windows 8. Bloomingdale's. - Christmas Windows. 9. Plaza Hotel. 10. World's Largest Menorah. 11. Time Warner Building. 12. Van Cleff & Arpels. 13. FAO Schwarz. 14. Bergdorf Goodman. - Christmas Windows. 15. Giant Snowflake. 16. Tiffany & Co. 17. Trump Tower. 18. Henri Bendel - Christmas Windows 19. Harry Winston Jewelers. 20. Carnegie Deli 21. The House of Cartier. 22. Rockefeller Center. 23. St. Patrick's Cathedral. 24. New York Palace Hotel. 25. Radio City Music Hall. 26. Saks Fifth Avenue. - Christmas Windows. 27. The Waldorf=Astoria Hotel. 28. American Girl Store 29. Diamond and Jewelry District. 30. Tkts Booth. 31. Hello Kitty Store 32. Hershey's Times Square. 33. Joe Allen Restaurant. 34 Toys "R" Us. Times Square 35. Fred F. French Building. 36. New York Yacht Club. 37. The Westin New York At Times Square. 38. Chrysler Building. 39. New York Public Library. 40. Fetes de Noel Holiday Shops At Bryant Park. 41. Grand Central Terminal. 42. 42nd Street Food Court. 43. Lord & Taylor Dept. Store. - Christmas Windows. 44. Morgan Library and Museum. 45. Macy's Herald Square. - Christmas Windows. 46. Empire State Building. 47. Forbes Magazine Galleries. You can write me off list and I will send you the attachment. Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If anyone is interested, I have a fifteen page write up on selected New York City sights that can be sent to you as an attachment. The listing covers 47 areas of interest (museums, Christmas window displays outlining this year's window themes, famous buildings, interesting restaurants, impressive hotel lobbies, etc.) and is arranged in descending order from 104th Street to 12th Street.. If you aren't familiar with New York City street sequences, the order of the Avenues from the East River to the Hudson River is also listed to help you out. The items on my list, with addresses and side street locations and some interesting historical facts are: 1. Museum of the City of New York. 2. Tree Lights On Park Avenue. 3. Metropolitan Museum of Art. 4. Rhinelander Mansion/Ralph Lauren Store. 5. The Frick Collection 6. The Crystal District. 7. Barney's. - Christmas Windows 8. Bloomingdale's. - Christmas Windows. 9. Plaza Hotel. 10. World's Largest Menorah. 11. Time Warner Building. 12. Van Cleff & Arpels. 13. FAO Schwarz. 14. Bergdorf Goodman. - Christmas Windows. 15. Giant Snowflake. 16. Tiffany & Co. 17. Trump Tower. 18. Henri Bendel - Christmas Windows 19. Harry Winston Jewelers. 20. Carnegie Deli 21. The House of Cartier. 22. Rockefeller Center. 23. St. Patrick's Cathedral. 24. New York Palace Hotel. 25. Radio City Music Hall. 26. Saks Fifth Avenue. - Christmas Windows. 27. The Waldorf=Astoria Hotel. 28. American Girl Store 29. Diamond and Jewelry District. 30. Tkts Booth. 31. Hello Kitty Store 32. Hershey's Times Square. 33. Joe Allen Restaurant. 34 Toys "R" Us. Times Square 35. Fred F. French Building. 36. New York Yacht Club. 37. The Westin New York At Times Square. 38. Chrysler Building. 39. New York Public Library. 40. Fetes de Noel Holiday Shops At Bryant Park. 41. Grand Central Terminal. 42. 42nd Street Food Court. 43. Lord & Taylor Dept. Store. - Christmas Windows. 44. Morgan Library and Museum. 45. Macy's Herald Square. - Christmas Windows. 46. Empire State Building. 47. Forbes Magazine Galleries. You can write me off list and I will send you the attachment. Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pata41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9660.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are no birth records as early as the 1860`s in most of NY state. The state gov`t didn`t start requiring birth & death records until 1881. There may be baptismal records but you would have to know the church the family attended. This link will take you to the orphanage in Poughkeepsie that the Kidney boys were in on the 1870 census. You may be able to contact someone there about records. http://www.childrenshome.us/ I think possibly Charles Kidney is in Iowa on the 1880 census. I`ll paste that record below. On the 1900 census, there is a Frederick (sp Fredered on index) Kidney, age 37, b. NY, parents b. NY in prison in the NJ State Prison in Trenton, Mercer co., NJ. I can`t find him after that on any census nor can I find the Charles Kidney who was in Iowa in 1880 on a later census. Pat R. Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace James O'CONNOR Self S Male W 28 IRE Farmer IRE IRE Catharine O'CONNOR Mother W Female W 65 IRE Keeping House IRE IRE Charles KIDNEY Other S Male W 15 NY Laborer NY NY Source Information: 1880 Census Place Wayne, Monroe, Iowa Family History Library Film 1254357 NA Film Number T9-0357 Page Number 171A Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ddellocono Surnames: Kidney, Kenney, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9660/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If anyone has access to birth records. Need to see birth record of Robert Kidney born 1861 probably Poughkeepsie NY (Frederick)Kidney 1864 Charles Kidney 1866 Any would be just fine. Robert was my great Grandfather. I SUSPECT his parents were a Robert Kidney and a Ruth Wilbur/Wilbor. Ruth had the 3 boys and died(1870) within 10yrs of her marriage.Boys were turned over by 1865 and the third by 1870 to Poughkeepsie orphanage.My grtgrdfather was later turned out to a farm(at age 10)here in Putnam Co. I know Charles nickname was "Jay" but do not know what happened to him or where he was sent. Frederick, sadly I don't know anything about. If someone knows what happened to all the records from the orphanage, that would be useful as well. Thanks to all..and happy Hunting. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Carmelink Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9657.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Be aware that I'm not in Dutchess, and don't know the family. However, if you need census details, etc. from Ancestry.com, I'd be glad to dig further. Good hunting, Mike Troy Town of Carmel Historical Society Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.