Cemeteries within the bounds of the Little Nine Partners Patent in the northern part of the county may be located by using the GPS posted on our website, here <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enylnphs/Places/Cem.htm>. Some grounds I have not been able to locate, and would appreciate if someone does find them, to please contact me. /quid pro quo/! ;o) -R. W. David Samuelsen wrote: > http://www.newyorkgravestones.org/ > > Are you aware of the photos being put online slowly but sure? > > If you have bits of information you know you have to add to that person, > please email me with the information to add to the specific photos. > > If you have good photos of gravestone markers laying around and want to > add to share, this is the place. > > W. David Samuelsen > New York Gravestone Photo Project > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ 490 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 119,800+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: DAV4IS@YAHOO.COM Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -Antoine de Saint Exupery

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmagha Surnames: Ramstetter, Tascher de la Pagerie, Meyer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Not quite the sister of the guy growing grapes; grand-daughter. Sally Ann Aulls, d.s.p., dau. of Anna Sanford, dau of Ephraim Sandford. No documentation, but our guess has been -- from my great grandmother's stories -- that this family was the one she was apprenticed to in Hammondsport, before coming to Rochester to settle, permanently. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johanna1876 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dan, Those were actually my(Margaret Schaad) posts of Dec 5 that you were responding to on Dec 6. The information I gave you on Philip Schaad, Adam's brother, was from his birth record from the FHC film. It was my mistake to assume that he had to be the same Philip that appeared on the St Joseph's (Rochester, NY) records. When I recently reviewed my notes from that research, I found the notation that Philip Schaad, (born Feb 26, 1826 to the same parents as Adam Schaad), died in the parish of his birth on Feb 6, 1838. I'm sorry for the confusion, but I posted to the list as soon as I realized the error. Margaret(Schaad) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: boyce185 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dan, I have been working with Margaret Schaad probing Ramstetter connections. I think I have some good records for your searches. 1) Catherine Ramstetter Married Mathias Freidel on April 11th, 1858 at St. Joseph's Church Rochester - data from LDS films. 2) In 1870 US Census Catharine & Matthew Fridel live in Hammondsport and grow grapes. 3) Barbara arrives with her husband Anton (40), daughter, Regina (9), Maria (6) and son George (5). Also on board are Martin (30) Apollonia (33) Argus and their children Adam (7) and Barbara (6). Jan 11, 1858 on the ship Bavaria. Who is "the sister of the farmer growing grapes" ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmagha Surnames: Ramstetter, Tascher de la Pagerie, Meyer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We have no evidence of Barbara Ramstetter's spouse, Anton Argus, being related to Martin Argus of Urbana Township, Steuben County, in 1870. The History of Steuben County merely lists Martin as from Ruppertsberg in the Rheinpfalz -- which is where Anton and his father Gottfried are from. My Elizabeth Ramstetter was known by oral tradition to have been trained as a millnier in Hammondsport. The sole millnier in Hammondsport during this time is the sister of the farmer growing grapes to the Argus'. So there is no clear connection. I have tried to raise Margaret Schaad, who identified Apollonia for me about five years ago; she had the information on Phillip. No luck yet. What of this Catherine Fridel -- where are you finding her as an Aunt? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: boyce185 Surnames: Ramstetter Meyer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dan, I have just gone back and read this post. I am having trouble tracking Barbara Ramstetter Argus to Hammondsport, but if you look up Catherine Fridel in 1870 Census, you will find Elisabeth's Ramstetter Aunt who grows grapes in Hammondsport. -------------------------- I am really curious and confused on Philip Schaad. Do you believe that immigrant Philippus Schaude is the same person who married Apollonia, is the brother of Adam Schaad, and the Philip Schaad in Rochester in the 1870 US Census ? You indicate that you have talked to Philip's decendants. I hope you have insight or can contact them, Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharinlpn Surnames: Kraujutaitis Kraut Cheypleta? Chipulatis Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9662/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for family of Simon Kraujutaitis Kraut from Vistytis Lithuania 1890. Born 1870 to Joseph and Eva Dannelus Kraujutaitis Lithuania. This family in PA and NY at one time. Were in Wilkes Barre, PA in 1892. Wife of Simon Kraut (shortened name in US) Victoria Cheypleta? Chipulatis? also born Lithuania. Had children Joseph Kraut abt 1897 NY or PA, Simon John or Sam John Kraut NY b. February 06, 1902 Victor Kraut b Abt. 1903 NY. Would like any info on the children Where in NY they were born or census records. Family settled in WA State in 1900's. Washington Death Index Simon Kraut - age 71 died 26 March 1941 in Seattle WA Name shortened to Kraut after coming from Lithuania. 1910 Census - taken 20 April 1910 Seattle (Kings County) WA Enumeration District 222, Part of Ward 14 Sheet 6B, Lines 71-76 222 Brandon (Street?) Simon Kraut Age 40 - married 13 years Nationality - German Lithuanian Naturalized - no arrival year listed Victoria Kraut Age 37 - wife - married 13 years Nationality - Russian Lithuanian no arrival year listed 3 children born/3 children living Joseph - son Age 12 - born in New York Simon Jr. - son Age 8 - born in NY Fitatas (per ancestry index) Looks like Gotautas Could really be Vytautas Age 7 - born in NY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

http://www.newyorkgravestones.org/ Are you aware of the photos being put online slowly but sure? If you have bits of information you know you have to add to that person, please email me with the information to add to the specific photos. If you have good photos of gravestone markers laying around and want to add to share, this is the place. W. David Samuelsen New York Gravestone Photo Project

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmagha Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: See the problem; dead twelve year old an unlikely father of someone born in 1859 (Catherine). Almost as problematic as trying to find out my ancestor's name, the gentleman who was the other half of my great grandmother's illegitimacy . . . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmagha Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: See the problem; dead twelve year old an unlikely father of someone born in 1859 (Catherine). Almost as problematic as trying to find out my ancestor's name, the gentleman who was the other half of my great grandmother's illegitimacy . . . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

R Thank you That is correct. My apology for omitting the word "little". It was Little Nine Partner Patent and Milan was purchased by Settler Johannes Rowe (a Rowe Ancestor of mine) from Robert Livingston. Milan is in the western part of that Little Nine Partner Patent. Pat R

Milan was part of the LITTLE Nine Partners Patent, a different patent from the Great Nine Partners Patent. Our site and map, here <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enylnphs/V0/index.htm>, should clear that up. And it's pronounced Mi-'-lan, with emphasis on the first syllable, and with a long "i". -R. Webmaster, L9PHS website Trustee, L9PHS PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: > Hi > > Milan is a Town located in the northern part of Dutchess County NY. It was > founded in 1760 by Johannes Rowe a Palatine who purchased 911 acres from Robert > Livingston at that time. It was part of the None Partners Patent (western > part). During the years of 1818-1908 there was a a Milan PO. The area is now > called Case's Corners and is located at Salisbury Turnpike and Milan Hollow Rd. > in Dutchess County NY > > Pat R > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ 487 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 119,600+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: DAV4IS@YAHOO.COM Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -Robert A. Heinlein

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johanna1876 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Citation from the FHL records for Rudelsheim, Germany. It was common to use a name again after the death of a child, but I didn't see a second Phillip born to Adam's parents when I was reading these records. It would help to find the marriage record for Phillip and Appolonia in Rochester, but I only saw records for them as parents of Catherine. Margaret Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmagha Surnames: ramstter, schaad Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thanks for that observation -- can you send along the cite? i just check my dbase. Margaret Schaad's ancestor appears to have been adam schaad, who married appollonia's younger sister, maria eva. But this leaves open the question as to the identity of the Phillip Schaad in the Old Saint Joe's records in Rochester, N.Y. may have been a second child names Philip Schaad (sometimes done after the young death of a sibling), or maybe a cousin. i'll see if I have Margaret's e-mail still. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johanna1876 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6028.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Correction re:"Item 4". The Phillip Schaad who married Catherine Ramstetter could not have been Adam's brother, who died at 12 years of age in Germany, according to church records. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoseMaryMcGrathNeal Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9567.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kathy, Have you tried sorting through the listings on http://www.schryver.org ? Good luck, Ro Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Ro, I'm related to both Schryver (a 1710 Palatine family) and Roosa from Holland. The info on the Long Island site is what I submitted some time ago on the Southard family. In the last few years, I've been delving deeply into DNA testing for genealogy and finding lots of good stuff, some of which may change the Southard origins quite dramatically. The Wordens are still on track, though, with the traditional Worden genealogy. I am curious, though, about your reference to the lady who died. Do you mean the Worden who compiled all the local records and did such a great job of it? I did have a conversation with her sometime ago and we could never find a link to her Worden family. She had not done a great deal of research on that line (isn't that strange?!) but was pretty convinced they were not related. Her Wordens may have immigrated more recently than Peter I and Peter II who came in 1637/8. I gather she was more interested in history than genealogy. My website is at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dorisw. I'll bet we'll find lots of relatives in common. All the families we are talking about are in my mother's line. Her name was Isabel Coon Muller, so you can trace my lineage from her. Have a Merry Christmas and let me know if you find any ties between us! Best, Doris (Muller) Wheeler Alternate email: doriswh@gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Can you help" Hi Doris, Have you tried the link below before? It seems to have the information you placed here for me. Perhaps you already know of it. I personally have not been on the Long Island site in some time. It is a wonderful site. My great great grandfather Anthony/Antony "Toto" Golden lived in the Roslyn > Hempstead > Port Washington area after coming to the US in the very early 1800's from Ireland. One of his sons, Thomas Tabor Golden (my great grandfather) moved to Hyde Park, NY and married a Schryver...which started what I know of my mothers family. I do know there are Montross and Worden's in the mix somewhere, but exactly where I can not tell you (through the Roger's and Hall connections). One of Samuel's wives...Isabell Quick is also related through marriage to my mom's family/her first husbands family of Roosa's. The late Mrs. ? Worden that did alot of research on the Worden's and many families of Dutchess Co. may have written of your Renselar Case. I do believe alot of her work is with the NY Genealogy Society in New York City. I think I even bought one of her cd's before she past away. (Though I did find some of it to be incorrect as far as my family is concerned.) You may also try contacting a Dr. David Roberts...he is on the Brooklyn/New York/Long Island rootsweb mailing lists. He posted Long Island newspaper articles where I found the death annoucment of my great great grandmother, Eliza (Curtin?) Golden's death at Hudson River State in 1891. He is very knowledgeable. http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/southard/fam00012.htm One day you and I will find our family connection...I know there is one there. Feel free to contact me if you want to treat ancestors...I am sure you have more knowledge than I. With 13 children in my mom's immediate family I have trouble connecting the dots. Good luck, Ro Doriswheeler <doriswheeler@bellsouth.net> wrote: Dear Ro, Very interesting! Renselaer Case was a merchant, I find in Smith's History after reading your reply. My ancestor was Renselaer Case Worden b. 1841, and he lived in Milan. His father was Samuel Montross Worden. Do any of these names mean anything to you? Do you have any idea why my ancestor would have been named for this Renselaer Case? Thanks! Doris Alternate email: doriswh@gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Rose Mary A. (McGrath) Neal To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] Can you help" I found the following (see link below) I thought to be of interest to you; Milan was largely a farming and mill town giving birth to its name today. Known by many as the "Mill Lands" for its rolling farmland and numerous gristmills. Milanville -- Location of the "Milan" Post Office from 1818 to 1908 and located at the junction of Salisbury Turnkpike and Milan Hollow Road this area is now known as "Case's Corner" after Rensselaer Case. Sources: US Federal Census Records; "History of Dutchess County New York," James H. Smith, 1882, D. Mason & Co. publisher; "History of Little Nine Partners," Issac Huntting, 1897. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan,_New_York Hope this helps you, Ro Milan Paddock wrote: I had some relatives in the area named Milan - that's how I got my name. For whom was Milan named? PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: Hi Milan is a Town located in the northern part of Dutchess County NY. It was founded in 1760 by Johannes Rowe a Palatine who purchased 911 acres from Robert Livingston at that time. It was part of the None Partners Patent (western part). During the years of 1818-1908 there was a a Milan PO. The area is now called Case's Corners and is located at Salisbury Turnpike and Milan Hollow Rd. in Dutchess County NY Pat R ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Rose Mary A.(Mc Grath)Neal ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KyResearchNut Surnames: Langdon, Rough Riders Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9661/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Article found in the Sunday, Aug 18, 1968 issue of Kentucky Advocate, Danville, Boyle Co, KY. ROUGH RIDER FINDS YOUTH TOO SOFT by Bill Wertz, Associated Press Writer LAS VEGAS, N.M. (AP) Eighty-seven year old Jesse D. Langdon, one of the last surviving members of Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders, hasn't much use for the younger generation. "They're soft, haven't got any opinions worth anything," said the Spanish-American War veteran here for the Rough Riders' 69th annual reunion. Teddy Roosevelt and more than 600 of his Rough Riders gathered in Las Vegas in 1899 for the group's first reunion. They voted to meet annually until the last man died. Langdon, who lives in Red Oak, N.Y., is one of three known survivors of the famous cavalry group that Roosevelt led up San Juan Hill. Arthur L. Tuttle, 88, Salinas, Calif., and Frank C. Brito, 91, Las Cruces, N.M., now are too ill to attend the reunion. Langdon said that Roosevelt asked him only one question. "Can you ride a horse?" He said he was offered a commission as a lieutenant in the regular Army after his service as a Rough Rider. "I turned it down," he said. "The Rough Riders were a good group and I got along, but my Daddy told me the first time I swatted an officer in the regular Army I'd be in Leavenworth. And I would have, too, I'm that kind of guy." ***note this is Las Vegas in New Mexico, not Las Vegas, Nevada. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There is a one year indenture between George McBride and his wife, agreeing to serve (husband as farm laborer and wife as housekeeper) for 1 year to Edward Brownell in the town of Beekman, Dutchess County NY. Agreed to April 8th 1839 being sold on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220180170949&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123