In the publication "Obituaries, Death Notices and Genealogical Gleanings from The Saugerties Telegraph" Volume 2, Does anyone know if this book is available for sale? I am trying to find the death date of Joseph DICKINSON of Ulster County, he is dead in 1845 when his brother John dies and lists Joseph's children in his will. Thanks, Carol L. Heap Florida

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You're right, Leslie. Once there is a line break -- or a zigzag -- you are no longer testing the ancestor you want. As I said in my other reply, you need to find a proxy to test for you. Basically, any male cousin who descends directly from your farthest male ancestor in the line you want to test can do it. So your father, a brother, an uncle, your father's father's son or grandson, his father's son or great great grandson... Distance is of little importance. Good luck! Doris -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leslie Hope Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 3:18 PM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study My situation is similar. My Palatine lines are through my mother's mother's father (Gibler/Kiebler) and I've had my DNA tested; however my gggrandmother was not German--apparently English or (most likely) Irish. I can tell you right now that my mitrochondrial DNA is H5 if I recall correctly which happens to be common among populations in Lebanon, Poland and Ireland. I would like to participate, but I doubt if my results will help you. Leslie Hope www.lahope.com -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Loreen Wells Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:53 AM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study I have been tested for mtDNA but it's for my maternal line. My paternal line is Palatine. My understanding is the women can't be tested for that side. I could give you my results but they would not relate to your research. From what I've been told, you can't make this connection for me. Is that right? Loreen Wells Doris Wheeler wrote: > Hi Rod, > Thanks so much for your interest. I can assure you that access to the > results will not be limited in any way, other than to shield the > individual participant's identity. Even that will be an option. I want > to post at least the testee's immigrant ancestor and, if he or she > wishes, an email address that others can use to contact him. Anyone > will be able to view the Results table at > www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject. In addition, I will be > putting up another website soon where I can add results from other > testing companies as well as from FTDNA. That, too, will be available to all. As soon as it is functioning, I will put a link to it from my FTDNA site. > > By the way, it isn't absolutely necessary to purchase a test kit. If > one has already tested, we can use the results they already have. > Another option is to test with www.smgf.org for free. The problem with > the last option is that the company does not return results to the > participant or anyone else. It is a scientific study and they > "probably" will post the results they find anonymously, but there is > no guarantee of that. They require a minimum 4-generation pedigree, > and this is what we use, among other techniques, to try to identify > the individual's results if they are ever posted. Most of the time, it > takes a year or more. I myself submitted a sample about three years > ago, and I still cannot find the results online. But it is definitely > an option and, in fact, I recommend that everyone do that test in > addition to any they might do with a commercial company. It is their > contribution to scientific research, if nothing else. Obviously, if > people choose to test with SMGF (or any other company), I hope they > will let me know and send me a copy of their pedigree so that I can help them find their results and/or so that we can add them to our project's results analysis. > > I'm a firm believer in sharing, especially where genealogy is > concerned. Since this project is so new, we have nothing to share as > yet, but I'm hoping for a good response. > > Questions are always welcome. Write anytime. > > Regards, > Doris Wheeler > > -----Original Message----- > From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rod Dav4is > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:58 AM > To: nydutche@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study > > > This is indeed exciting news -- but... > Membership and access to the results seems to be limited to direct > descendants willing to purchase a testing kit. But what about us > historians and genealogists who have an interest and are perhaps not > related? > Speaking as a trustee of the Little Nine Partners Historical > Society, we have an abiding interest in these results, since the L9P > Patent had many Palatine settlers. > > -R. > > > Doris Wheeler wrote: > >> Descendants of the Palatine emigrants who left Germany in 1708-09 and >> settled in the far reaches of the British Empire, including the >> Hudson Valley in New York and beyond, may soon be able to connect >> with long-lost family members and learn far more about their German >> roots than they ever thought was possible. >> >> A Palatine DNA Project has been established that welcomes all direct >> descendants of these brave and hardy men and women. The goal is to >> determine if and how these families are related and to reunite those >> families that were split apart during the great exodus from Germany >> and resettlement throughout the world. DNA testing can make this >> possible, and this new Palatine DNA Project will coordinate test >> results from all companies in an effort to reach this goal. Not only >> can participants learn about their connections to Germany but they >> will also learn about their very deep roots, the path their ancestors >> took out of Africa many thousands of years ago that led them >> eventually to Germany. >> >> All that is needed to take part in this important new research effort >> is to visit the website www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject and >> order a DNA test if you have not already had one. If you have, >> instructions for transferring the results and joining the project are >> explained at the website. >> >> Doris Wheeler, Palatine DNA Project Administrator >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Loreen, You are correct. However, all is not lost. You need to find a proxy to test for you. Basically, any male cousin who descends directly from your farthest male ancestor in the line you want to test can do it. So your father, a brother, an uncle, your father's father's son or grandson, his father's son or great great grandson... Distance is of little importance. Good luck! Doris -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Loreen Wells Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 2:53 PM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study I have been tested for mtDNA but it's for my maternal line. My paternal line is Palatine. My understanding is the women can't be tested for that side. I could give you my results but they would not relate to your research. From what I've been told, you can't make this connection for me. Is that right? Loreen Wells Doris Wheeler wrote: > Hi Rod, > Thanks so much for your interest. I can assure you that access to the > results will not be limited in any way, other than to shield the > individual participant's identity. Even that will be an option. I want > to post at least the testee's immigrant ancestor and, if he or she > wishes, an email address that others can use to contact him. Anyone > will be able to view the Results table at > www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject. In addition, I will be > putting up another website soon where I can add results from other > testing companies as well as from FTDNA. That, too, will be available > to all. As soon as it is functioning, I will put a link to it from my > FTDNA site. > > By the way, it isn't absolutely necessary to purchase a test kit. If > one has already tested, we can use the results they already have. > Another option is to test with www.smgf.org for free. The problem with > the last option is that the company does not return results to the > participant or anyone else. It is a scientific study and they > "probably" will post the results they find anonymously, but there is > no guarantee of that. They require a minimum 4-generation pedigree, > and this is what we use, among other techniques, to try to identify > the individual's results if they are ever posted. Most of the time, it > takes a year or more. I myself submitted a sample about three years > ago, and I still cannot find the results online. But it is definitely > an option and, in fact, I recommend that everyone do that test in > addition to any they might do with a commercial company. It is their > contribution to scientific research, if nothing else. Obviously, if > people choose to test with SMGF (or any other company), I hope they > will let me know and send me a copy of their pedigree so that I can > help them find their results and/or so that we can add them to our > project's results analysis. > > I'm a firm believer in sharing, especially where genealogy is > concerned. Since this project is so new, we have nothing to share as > yet, but I'm hoping for a good response. > > Questions are always welcome. Write anytime. > > Regards, > Doris Wheeler > > -----Original Message----- > From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rod Dav4is > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:58 AM > To: nydutche@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study > > > This is indeed exciting news -- but... > Membership and access to the results seems to be limited to direct > descendants willing to purchase a testing kit. But what about us > historians and genealogists who have an interest and are perhaps not > related? > Speaking as a trustee of the Little Nine Partners Historical > Society, we have an abiding interest in these results, since the L9P > Patent had many Palatine settlers. > > -R. > > > Doris Wheeler wrote: > >> Descendants of the Palatine emigrants who left Germany in 1708-09 and >> settled in the far reaches of the British Empire, including the Hudson >> Valley in New York and beyond, may soon be able to connect with >> long-lost family members and learn far more about their German roots >> than they ever thought was possible. >> >> A Palatine DNA Project has been established that welcomes all direct >> descendants of these brave and hardy men and women. The goal is to >> determine if and how these families are related and to reunite those >> families that were split apart during the great exodus from Germany >> and resettlement throughout the world. DNA testing can make this >> possible, and this new Palatine DNA Project will coordinate test >> results from all companies in an effort to reach this goal. Not only >> can participants learn about their connections to Germany but they >> will also learn about their very deep roots, the path their ancestors >> took out of Africa many thousands of years ago that led them >> eventually to Germany. >> >> All that is needed to take part in this important new research effort >> is to visit the website www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject and >> order a DNA test if you have not already had one. If you have, >> instructions for transferring the results and joining the project are >> explained at the website. >> >> Doris Wheeler, Palatine DNA Project Administrator >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just received a abstract of John Dickinson's will 1845, he died in Dutchess County NY but his family was spread out all over NY state. I am particually interested in the children of JOSEPH DICKINSON, John's brother. I believe he could be the father of my James P. Dickinson. Anyone connect to this line or tree? Dickinson Family New York Unknown – Dickinson b. ? d. ? married unknown Children – JOHN DICKINSON – married Elizabeth ______? He died 1845, listed in his will is the following Brothers & sisters Purdy Dickinson, alive in 1845 Elizabeth PURDY, alive in 1845 James Dickinson, deceased in 1845 Daniel Dickinson & children living in westerly part of United States in 1845 James Dickinson of Marlborough in 1845 John Dickinson of Poughkeepsie in 1845 Elizabeth Dickinson, wife of Lewis Smith of Kingston, Ulster Co. -1845 Fanny Dickinson, wife of _______, residing (residing crossed out) in the western part of New York State Joseph Dickinson , deceased in 1845 James Dickinson (mine?) Poughkeepsie 1845 Charles Dickinson, Poughkeepsie 1845 Elizabeth Dickinson, wife of Lansing Gale, Poughkeepsie 1845 Phebe Dickinson, wife of Alvah Marsh of New Paltz Catherine Dickinson, wife of Atwill Sheldon somewhere in Sullivan County 1845 Fanny Dickinson wife of _____ Sheldon somewhere in Sullivan County 1845 Mary Dickinson, b. ? d. ? deceased 1845, married ____? Bishop Abraham Bishop of Williamsborough Kings County Jacob Bishop supposed to reside somewhere in the western part of State of New York Fanny Dickinson, b.? d. ? deceased in 1845 married _____? Purdy Joseph Purdy of Goshen, Orange County Sally Purdy, wife of William Parsons of Brookly, Kings County Fanny Purdy, wife of Nicholas Willson of Newburgh, Orange County Thanks, Carol L. Heap Office Administrator Boynton Mall 8142 561 736-7902 ext. 17 561 736-7907 fax

My situation is similar. My Palatine lines are through my mother's mother's father (Gibler/Kiebler) and I've had my DNA tested; however my gggrandmother was not German--apparently English or (most likely) Irish. I can tell you right now that my mitrochondrial DNA is H5 if I recall correctly which happens to be common among populations in Lebanon, Poland and Ireland. I would like to participate, but I doubt if my results will help you. Leslie Hope www.lahope.com -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Loreen Wells Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:53 AM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study I have been tested for mtDNA but it's for my maternal line. My paternal line is Palatine. My understanding is the women can't be tested for that side. I could give you my results but they would not relate to your research. From what I've been told, you can't make this connection for me. Is that right? Loreen Wells Doris Wheeler wrote: > Hi Rod, > Thanks so much for your interest. I can assure you that access to the > results will not be limited in any way, other than to shield the > individual participant's identity. Even that will be an option. I want > to post at least the testee's immigrant ancestor and, if he or she > wishes, an email address that others can use to contact him. Anyone > will be able to view the Results table at > www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject. In addition, I will be > putting up another website soon where I can add results from other > testing companies as well as from FTDNA. That, too, will be available to all. As soon as it is functioning, I will put a link to it from my FTDNA site. > > By the way, it isn't absolutely necessary to purchase a test kit. If > one has already tested, we can use the results they already have. > Another option is to test with www.smgf.org for free. The problem with > the last option is that the company does not return results to the > participant or anyone else. It is a scientific study and they > "probably" will post the results they find anonymously, but there is > no guarantee of that. They require a minimum 4-generation pedigree, > and this is what we use, among other techniques, to try to identify > the individual's results if they are ever posted. Most of the time, it > takes a year or more. I myself submitted a sample about three years > ago, and I still cannot find the results online. But it is definitely > an option and, in fact, I recommend that everyone do that test in > addition to any they might do with a commercial company. It is their > contribution to scientific research, if nothing else. Obviously, if > people choose to test with SMGF (or any other company), I hope they > will let me know and send me a copy of their pedigree so that I can help them find their results and/or so that we can add them to our project's results analysis. > > I'm a firm believer in sharing, especially where genealogy is concerned. > Since this project is so new, we have nothing to share as yet, but I'm > hoping for a good response. > > Questions are always welcome. Write anytime. > > Regards, > Doris Wheeler > > -----Original Message----- > From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rod Dav4is > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:58 AM > To: nydutche@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study > > > This is indeed exciting news -- but... > Membership and access to the results seems to be limited to direct > descendants willing to purchase a testing kit. But what about us > historians and genealogists who have an interest and are perhaps not > related? > Speaking as a trustee of the Little Nine Partners Historical > Society, we have an abiding interest in these results, since the L9P > Patent had many Palatine settlers. > > -R. > > > Doris Wheeler wrote: > >> Descendants of the Palatine emigrants who left Germany in 1708-09 and >> settled in the far reaches of the British Empire, including the >> Hudson Valley in New York and beyond, may soon be able to connect >> with long-lost family members and learn far more about their German >> roots than they ever thought was possible. >> >> A Palatine DNA Project has been established that welcomes all direct >> descendants of these brave and hardy men and women. The goal is to >> determine if and how these families are related and to reunite those >> families that were split apart during the great exodus from Germany >> and resettlement throughout the world. DNA testing can make this >> possible, and this new Palatine DNA Project will coordinate test >> results from all companies in an effort to reach this goal. Not only >> can participants learn about their connections to Germany but they >> will also learn about their very deep roots, the path their ancestors >> took out of Africa many thousands of years ago that led them >> eventually to Germany. >> >> All that is needed to take part in this important new research effort >> is to visit the website www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject and >> order a DNA test if you have not already had one. If you have, >> instructions for transferring the results and joining the project are >> explained at the website. >> >> Doris Wheeler, Palatine DNA Project Administrator >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been tested for mtDNA but it's for my maternal line. My paternal line is Palatine. My understanding is the women can't be tested for that side. I could give you my results but they would not relate to your research. From what I've been told, you can't make this connection for me. Is that right? Loreen Wells Doris Wheeler wrote: > Hi Rod, > Thanks so much for your interest. I can assure you that access to the > results will not be limited in any way, other than to shield the individual > participant's identity. Even that will be an option. I want to post at least > the testee's immigrant ancestor and, if he or she wishes, an email address > that others can use to contact him. Anyone will be able to view the Results > table at www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject. In addition, I will be > putting up another website soon where I can add results from other testing > companies as well as from FTDNA. That, too, will be available to all. As > soon as it is functioning, I will put a link to it from my FTDNA site. > > By the way, it isn't absolutely necessary to purchase a test kit. If one has > already tested, we can use the results they already have. Another option is > to test with www.smgf.org for free. The problem with the last option is that > the company does not return results to the participant or anyone else. It is > a scientific study and they "probably" will post the results they find > anonymously, but there is no guarantee of that. They require a minimum > 4-generation pedigree, and this is what we use, among other techniques, to > try to identify the individual's results if they are ever posted. Most of > the time, it takes a year or more. I myself submitted a sample about three > years ago, and I still cannot find the results online. But it is definitely > an option and, in fact, I recommend that everyone do that test in addition > to any they might do with a commercial company. It is their contribution to > scientific research, if nothing else. Obviously, if people choose to test > with SMGF (or any other company), I hope they will let me know and send me a > copy of their pedigree so that I can help them find their results and/or so > that we can add them to our project's results analysis. > > I'm a firm believer in sharing, especially where genealogy is concerned. > Since this project is so new, we have nothing to share as yet, but I'm > hoping for a good response. > > Questions are always welcome. Write anytime. > > Regards, > Doris Wheeler > > -----Original Message----- > From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rod Dav4is > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:58 AM > To: nydutche@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study > > > This is indeed exciting news -- but... > Membership and access to the results seems to be limited to direct > descendants willing to purchase a testing kit. But what about us > historians and genealogists who have an interest and are perhaps not > related? > Speaking as a trustee of the Little Nine Partners Historical > Society, we have an abiding interest in these results, since the L9P > Patent had many Palatine settlers. > > -R. > > > Doris Wheeler wrote: > >> Descendants of the Palatine emigrants who left Germany in 1708-09 and >> settled in the far reaches of the British Empire, including the Hudson >> Valley in New York and beyond, may soon be able to connect with >> long-lost family members and learn far more about their German roots >> than they ever thought was possible. >> >> A Palatine DNA Project has been established that welcomes all direct >> descendants of these brave and hardy men and women. The goal is to >> determine if and how these families are related and to reunite those >> families that were split apart during the great exodus from Germany >> and resettlement throughout the world. DNA testing can make this >> possible, and this new Palatine DNA Project will coordinate test >> results from all companies in an effort to reach this goal. Not only >> can participants learn about their connections to Germany but they >> will also learn about their very deep roots, the path their ancestors >> took out of Africa many thousands of years ago that led them >> eventually to Germany. >> >> All that is needed to take part in this important new research effort >> is to visit the website www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject and >> order a DNA test if you have not already had one. If you have, >> instructions for transferring the results and joining the project are >> explained at the website. >> >> Doris Wheeler, Palatine DNA Project Administrator >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > >

Do you happen to have a Townsend line connecting with your Washburn line? I have a Susanna Washburn and brother Joseph. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <nydutche-request@rootsweb.com> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:48 AM Subject: NYDUTCHE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 10 > > > __________ NOD32 2786 (20080112) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Washburn Query (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > 2. Re: ROSWELL, late 17/early 1800s (PNUTREG@cs.com) > 3. Re: ROSWELL, late 17/early 1800s (Mez) > 4. Re: SAGER/SEEGER family in New York by 1742 > (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > 5. Re: ROSWELL, late 17/early 1800s (Mez) > 6. New Palatine Research Study (Doris Wheeler) > 7. Re: New Palatine Research Study (Rod Dav4is) > 8. Payne/Paine families of Dutchess (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > 9. Payne/Paine families of Dutchess (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > > > __________ NOD32 2786 (20080112) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contact the NYDUTCHE list administrator, send an email to > NYDUTCHE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYDUTCHE mailing list, send an email to > NYDUTCHE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > __________ NOD32 2786 (20080112) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

Hi Rod, Thanks so much for your interest. I can assure you that access to the results will not be limited in any way, other than to shield the individual participant's identity. Even that will be an option. I want to post at least the testee's immigrant ancestor and, if he or she wishes, an email address that others can use to contact him. Anyone will be able to view the Results table at www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject. In addition, I will be putting up another website soon where I can add results from other testing companies as well as from FTDNA. That, too, will be available to all. As soon as it is functioning, I will put a link to it from my FTDNA site. By the way, it isn't absolutely necessary to purchase a test kit. If one has already tested, we can use the results they already have. Another option is to test with www.smgf.org for free. The problem with the last option is that the company does not return results to the participant or anyone else. It is a scientific study and they "probably" will post the results they find anonymously, but there is no guarantee of that. They require a minimum 4-generation pedigree, and this is what we use, among other techniques, to try to identify the individual's results if they are ever posted. Most of the time, it takes a year or more. I myself submitted a sample about three years ago, and I still cannot find the results online. But it is definitely an option and, in fact, I recommend that everyone do that test in addition to any they might do with a commercial company. It is their contribution to scientific research, if nothing else. Obviously, if people choose to test with SMGF (or any other company), I hope they will let me know and send me a copy of their pedigree so that I can help them find their results and/or so that we can add them to our project's results analysis. I'm a firm believer in sharing, especially where genealogy is concerned. Since this project is so new, we have nothing to share as yet, but I'm hoping for a good response. Questions are always welcome. Write anytime. Regards, Doris Wheeler -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rod Dav4is Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:58 AM To: nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] New Palatine Research Study This is indeed exciting news -- but... Membership and access to the results seems to be limited to direct descendants willing to purchase a testing kit. But what about us historians and genealogists who have an interest and are perhaps not related? Speaking as a trustee of the Little Nine Partners Historical Society, we have an abiding interest in these results, since the L9P Patent had many Palatine settlers. -R. Doris Wheeler wrote: > Descendants of the Palatine emigrants who left Germany in 1708-09 and > settled in the far reaches of the British Empire, including the Hudson > Valley in New York and beyond, may soon be able to connect with > long-lost family members and learn far more about their German roots > than they ever thought was possible. > > A Palatine DNA Project has been established that welcomes all direct > descendants of these brave and hardy men and women. The goal is to > determine if and how these families are related and to reunite those > families that were split apart during the great exodus from Germany > and resettlement throughout the world. DNA testing can make this > possible, and this new Palatine DNA Project will coordinate test > results from all companies in an effort to reach this goal. Not only > can participants learn about their connections to Germany but they > will also learn about their very deep roots, the path their ancestors > took out of Africa many thousands of years ago that led them > eventually to Germany. > > All that is needed to take part in this important new research effort > is to visit the website www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject and > order a DNA test if you have not already had one. If you have, > instructions for transferring the results and joining the project are > explained at the website. > > Doris Wheeler, Palatine DNA Project Administrator > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ 491 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 120,100+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: DAV4IS@YAHOO.COM Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. -Barry Switzer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joannesholes Surnames: Payne/Paine Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9667/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would anyone on this board be familiar with the various Payne/Paine family lines of Dutchess county? I am researching a David Payne (1754 - 1815). He appears in the 1790 Amenia census not far from Barnabas Paine. David bought some property and finally settled in what was then Chenango, Tioga which later became Windsor, Broome. Daivd's heirs were involved in a property transaction with Barnabas Payne in the late 1830's. At that time Barnabas was in Northeast, Dutchess. I have tried to see if my David might be connected to any of the Dutchess Paynes but have not been successful. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joannesholes Surnames: Payne/Paine Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9666/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would anyone on this board be familiar with the various Payne/Paine family lines of Dutchess county? I am researching a David Payne (1754 - 1815). He appears in the 1790 Amenia census not far from Barnabas Paine. David bought some property and finally settled in what was then Chenango, Tioga which later became Windsor, Broome. Daivd's heirs were involved in a property transaction with Barnabas Payne in the late 1830's. At that time Barnabas was in Northeast, Dutchess. I have tried to see if my David might be connected to any of the Dutchess Paynes but have not been successful. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is indeed exciting news -- but... Membership and access to the results seems to be limited to direct descendants willing to purchase a testing kit. But what about us historians and genealogists who have an interest and are perhaps not related? Speaking as a trustee of the Little Nine Partners Historical Society, we have an abiding interest in these results, since the L9P Patent had many Palatine settlers. -R. Doris Wheeler wrote: > Descendants of the Palatine emigrants who left Germany in 1708-09 and > settled in the far reaches of the British Empire, including the Hudson > Valley in New York and beyond, may soon be able to connect with long-lost > family members and learn far more about their German roots than they ever > thought was possible. > > A Palatine DNA Project has been established that welcomes all direct > descendants of these brave and hardy men and women. The goal is to determine > if and how these families are related and to reunite those families that > were split apart during the great exodus from Germany and resettlement > throughout the world. DNA testing can make this possible, and this new > Palatine DNA Project will coordinate test results from all companies in an > effort to reach this goal. Not only can participants learn about their > connections to Germany but they will also learn about their very deep roots, > the path their ancestors took out of Africa many thousands of years ago that > led them eventually to Germany. > > All that is needed to take part in this important new research effort is to > visit the website www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject and order a DNA > test if you have not already had one. If you have, instructions for > transferring the results and joining the project are explained at the > website. > > Doris Wheeler, Palatine DNA Project Administrator > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dav4is/ 491 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17°-19° century New England & European roots. Total population: 120,100+ Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ email: DAV4IS@YAHOO.COM Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. -Barry Switzer

Descendants of the Palatine emigrants who left Germany in 1708-09 and settled in the far reaches of the British Empire, including the Hudson Valley in New York and beyond, may soon be able to connect with long-lost family members and learn far more about their German roots than they ever thought was possible. A Palatine DNA Project has been established that welcomes all direct descendants of these brave and hardy men and women. The goal is to determine if and how these families are related and to reunite those families that were split apart during the great exodus from Germany and resettlement throughout the world. DNA testing can make this possible, and this new Palatine DNA Project will coordinate test results from all companies in an effort to reach this goal. Not only can participants learn about their connections to Germany but they will also learn about their very deep roots, the path their ancestors took out of Africa many thousands of years ago that led them eventually to Germany. All that is needed to take part in this important new research effort is to visit the website www.ftdna.com/public/PalatineDNAProject and order a DNA test if you have not already had one. If you have, instructions for transferring the results and joining the project are explained at the website. Doris Wheeler, Palatine DNA Project Administrator

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bcyoung188 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/1590.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are Sagers and Phelps'families in the Eastern Townships of Quebec. If you have not already done so, you might want to contact the Mississquoi County Historical Society at Stanbridge East, QC at: mhsarchives@globetrotter.net B. Young in VT Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Lori, I hadn't thought to request their death certificates, that's a great idea. And I've got a research request in to the Allendale library at the moment, I'll give the historians a try too. Thank you! Best, Mary On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:40:25 -0500, Lori MacCormack wrote: > Hello Mary, > > Did you request their death certificates from Allendale? > I also enclosed a link to the Bergen County historians. A > letter to Allendale hisorian may provide you with some > information on your family. Good luck with your search. > > Lori MacCormack in NJ > > > http://www.co.bergen.nj.us/Parks/Cultural%20and%20Historic/p > df/Historians.pdf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mez" <mezzers@comcast.net> > To: <PNUTREG@cs.com> <nydutche@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] ROSWELL, late 17/early 1800s > > >> Hi Pat, >> >> Here's all I know about Smith ROSWELL: b. 1827 NY, d. >> 23 Sep 1910 NJ; m. Ellen M. BULL b. Jul 1835 NY, d. 23 >> Feb 1923 NJ. >> >> Children: >> Charles M. (or S.) b. Apr 1857 NJ, d. unknown >> Sarah E. b. abt 1858 NJ, d. 26 Feb 1926 NJ >> Edgar L. b. 1 Feb 1861 NJ, d. 28 Dec 1880 NJ >> Ingham I. b. 7 Dec 1862 NJ, d. 4 Dec 1887 NJ >> William E. (or S.) b. 27 Dec 1870 NJ, d. unknown >> Edith M. b. 29 Oct 1875 NJ, d. unknown >> >> I don't know if Smith ROSWELL had any siblings, where >> he and his wife married, or where he or his wife were >> born in NY. The above is derived >> > from >> Hohokus and Allendale, Bergen Co., NJ censuses >> beginning in 1870, the >> > first >> trace I find of him. Historically, he was connected >> with the railroad from abt 1848 onward. He moved his >> family from Hohokus to Allendale in the >> > 1880s >> after becoming Allendale's first railroad station agent >> and postmaster, >> > and >> lived there till his death. >> >> My father (living - g-grandson) remembers his >> grandfather, Charles >> > ROSWELL, >> and hearing about relatives in Dutchess Co., which is >> why I'm here with >> > hat >> in hand. >> >> Thanks so much for giving it a go! >> >> Mary >> >> >> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:29:03 EST, PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> You might want to include the name of Smith Roswell's >>> wife and his siblings, also other locations where he >>> might of lived. It would help in trying to locate >>> him. I'm willing to try, but need something more >>> concrete to go on. >>> >>> Pat R >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Hello Mary, Did you request their death certificates from Allendale? I also enclosed a link to the Bergen County historians. A letter to Allendale hisorian may provide you with some information on your family. Good luck with your search. Lori MacCormack in NJ http://www.co.bergen.nj.us/Parks/Cultural%20and%20Historic/pdf/Historians.pdf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mez" <mezzers@comcast.net> To: <PNUTREG@cs.com>; <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] ROSWELL, late 17/early 1800s > Hi Pat, > > Here's all I know about Smith ROSWELL: b. 1827 NY, d. 23 Sep 1910 NJ; m. > Ellen M. BULL b. Jul 1835 NY, d. 23 Feb 1923 NJ. > > Children: > Charles M. (or S.) b. Apr 1857 NJ, d. unknown > Sarah E. b. abt 1858 NJ, d. 26 Feb 1926 NJ > Edgar L. b. 1 Feb 1861 NJ, d. 28 Dec 1880 NJ > Ingham I. b. 7 Dec 1862 NJ, d. 4 Dec 1887 NJ > William E. (or S.) b. 27 Dec 1870 NJ, d. unknown > Edith M. b. 29 Oct 1875 NJ, d. unknown > > I don't know if Smith ROSWELL had any siblings, where he and his wife > married, or where he or his wife were born in NY. The above is derived from > Hohokus and Allendale, Bergen Co., NJ censuses beginning in 1870, the first > trace I find of him. Historically, he was connected with the railroad from > abt 1848 onward. He moved his family from Hohokus to Allendale in the 1880s > after becoming Allendale's first railroad station agent and postmaster, and > lived there till his death. > > My father (living - g-grandson) remembers his grandfather, Charles ROSWELL, > and hearing about relatives in Dutchess Co., which is why I'm here with hat > in hand. > > Thanks so much for giving it a go! > > Mary > > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:29:03 EST, PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: > > Hi > > > > You might want to include the name of Smith Roswell's > > wife and his siblings, also other locations where he > > might of lived. It would help in trying to locate him. > > I'm willing to try, but need something more concrete to > > go on. > > > > Pat R > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pat, Here's all I know about Smith ROSWELL: b. 1827 NY, d. 23 Sep 1910 NJ; m. Ellen M. BULL b. Jul 1835 NY, d. 23 Feb 1923 NJ. Children: Charles M. (or S.) b. Apr 1857 NJ, d. unknown Sarah E. b. abt 1858 NJ, d. 26 Feb 1926 NJ Edgar L. b. 1 Feb 1861 NJ, d. 28 Dec 1880 NJ Ingham I. b. 7 Dec 1862 NJ, d. 4 Dec 1887 NJ William E. (or S.) b. 27 Dec 1870 NJ, d. unknown Edith M. b. 29 Oct 1875 NJ, d. unknown I don't know if Smith ROSWELL had any siblings, where he and his wife married, or where he or his wife were born in NY. The above is derived from Hohokus and Allendale, Bergen Co., NJ censuses beginning in 1870, the first trace I find of him. Historically, he was connected with the railroad from abt 1848 onward. He moved his family from Hohokus to Allendale in the 1880s after becoming Allendale's first railroad station agent and postmaster, and lived there till his death. My father (living - g-grandson) remembers his grandfather, Charles ROSWELL, and hearing about relatives in Dutchess Co., which is why I'm here with hat in hand. Thanks so much for giving it a go! Mary On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:29:03 EST, PNUTREG@cs.com wrote: > Hi > > You might want to include the name of Smith Roswell's > wife and his siblings, also other locations where he > might of lived. It would help in trying to locate him. > I'm willing to try, but need something more concrete to > go on. > > Pat R

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: daywash123 Surnames: Washburn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/2034.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have a g-g-g-grandfather Eli Washburn, born 1796 and lived in Wells, New York Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi You might want to include the name of Smith Roswell's wife and his siblings, also other locations where he might of lived. It would help in trying to locate him. I'm willing to try, but need something more concrete to go on. Pat R