This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: martensrick Surnames: Lennon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/239.733.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I realize you posted this almost 10 years ago but was wondering if you ever found out any information on John Lennon. I just joined the site and am looking for info on John Lennon as well. From what I have gathered, he died in Cairo, NY and not in Dutchess County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jasra Surnames: Sickler, Browns, Kreisher, comingo Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/4665.4684/mb.ashx Message Board Post: he is 4 great grand uncle to me Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Judith_Hamm Surnames: Seger/Seeger/Sager Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9710.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My apologies for such a belated reply to this post. My Sagers migrated north to Canada in the late 1790's, so it doesn't appear that our two families are related. None of the names you mentioned appear on my tree. Too bad! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tammwilson Surnames: WILLSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/2333.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: please check out james willson 1669 of newbattle, his son james was in NY at this time, let me know please. copy and paste http://wilsonclan.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=wilsonclan&view=9&rand=369680013 regards thomas wilson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tammwilson Surnames: WILLSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/2333.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: please check out james willson 1669 of newbattle, his son james was in NY at this time, let me know please. copy and paste http://wilsonclan.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=wilsonclan&view=9&rand=369680013 regards thomas wilson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lohrum Surnames: Allen, Fish, McCumber and Russell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/5446.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would like to share any information I have on the Allen and McCumber families. Hannah Allen born 1772 daughter of Elisa Allen and Elizabeth Fish is one of my ancestors. Hannah would be my 4th great grandmother. Hannah married Christopher McCumber. Their daughter Ester B McCumber married Mathew R Russel. Russell was my maiden name. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PatriciaWeyantElliott Surnames: Wandell, Weyant, Weiant Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/1278.1288.4360.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in your Wandell information . Catherine Wandell d. in Doodletown, NY is my 4GGrandmother married to Tobias Weyant b. 1763 Newburgh, NY d. Doodlletown 1850. Children: John W. (my line), George, William, Catherine. She had another marriage to Abram Baker b. perhaps 1754. That is all I have on Catherine. Do you have more? I had her down as "Wardell". Am very much interested in my newly found line of cousins and welcome any additional info on ancestors and descendants. Pat Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting TOPIC: Christopher DiPasquale will present An Object of Great Importance: The Hudson River During the American War for Independence to WCGS at our meeting on June 14, 2008. Christopher DiPasquale is originally from Long Island, NY. Mr. DiPasquale graduated from Pace University with a degree in History and Secondary Education. He then earned a Master’s Degree in History from Queens College. Currently a teacher in Yorktown, NY, he is working on his PhD in History. During the American Revolution, the Hudson River was not just a waterway. It was a lifeline, a vital artery that the cause of liberty depended on. Along its banks and in its waters, many would die for what they believed in. Mr. DiPasquale will highlight all of this in his talk. MEETING INFO: TOPIC: An Object of Great Importance: The Hudson River During the American War for Independence SPEAKER: Christopher DiPasquale WHEN: Saturday, JUNE 14, 2008 @ 10 a.m. WHERE: Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway in Dobbs Ferry (across from Mercy College on route 9) For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/) **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Where was Harriet Rhoads born and where was she married? We have Rhodes in our line and may be able to help. Maybe!! Sophie On 6/8/08, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: lestokes > Surnames: LAWSON/RHOADS > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/1123.4193/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Donn: Researching William Lawson b. July 26,1806 d. October 04, 1838; m. > Nov. 15, 1827 Harriet Rhoads b. December 15, 1810 d. October 20, 1884. Any > information appreciated. Evelyn > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was wondering if someone has a Rebecca Weeks b 1810, prob Northcastle Westchester Co NY m 1830 Daniel F Young b 25 Oct 1807. As far as I can find they both died in Hallowell Twp Prince Edward Co. ONT, Canada their families may have been UEL's I cannot place her with any of the Weeks. Her death cert. say her name was Weeks. Thanks for any help Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "smulvey" <smulvey@comcast.net> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] WEEKS of Dutchess, Putnam, Westchester and Oyster Bay Hi Jim, I don't know if this will help but I looked up Gilbert Weeks at www.footenote.com for Revolutionary war pensions and this is what I found. A Gilbert Weeks was a deponent for William Gailor on 9 Feb 1827 at the time Gilbert was a ship carpenter in New York City a resident for three years. He states he was "formerly of Peekskill, Manor of Cortlandt town of Westchester but was brought up in Peekskill but born in White Plains, Westchester county and enlisted with William Gailor in 1775. Gilbert went on board the sloop Heister in 1776 as master under order of Joseph Dobbs and continued to served until 1783. He states he is over 75 years of age and on March next (1828) will be 76 and said Gailor was one year younger. This puts his birth as March 1752. The pension file for Gilbert Weeks that was rejected has no family data in it but on 24 June 1828 he was living in the village of Peekskill, Westchester and was a private in the 2nd Regiment of Infantry commanded by Col. Philip Van Cortlandt. Philip Van Cortlandt also signed an affidavit of Daniel Delaware, Esq and John Anderson judges of the Marine Court of New York City who made oath that Gilbert Weeks was a captain of a vessel that was on the Hudson river from May to June during the war in the year 1777 and that Gilbert was residing in the town of Cortlandt on 5 Dec. 1828 The next pension file was for a James Weeks filed 12 March 1840 in the town of Malta, Saratoga County. James was 87 years of age and was born in the town of North Castle, Westchester Co. on 11 Feb. 1753. He lived in North Castle until the age of 34 and then removed to Malta. I hope I haven't added more fuel to the Gilbert Weeks' fire! Susan M. ************************************************* "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." -- George Bernard Shaw Columbia County, NY Coordinator http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Miller" <jm1982@gmail.com> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:46 PM Subject: [NYDUTCHE] WEEKS of Dutchess, Putnam, Westchester and Oyster Bay Hello all, Not sure this is strictly "Dutch Colonies," but knowing how many people are on this list and how varied their backgrounds and interests are, I thought I'd take a chance and post it here. I have for some time been trying to document the oft-quoted ancestry of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) of Philips Precinct, Dutchess/Putnam County N.Y., husband of Jemima Van Amburgh. The proposed line, for which I have never found a primary source, is that he was the son of Solomon Weeks and Nancy/Margaret/Gretia Waters/Walters of Oyster Bay, Solomon being the son of Daniel Weeks, son of Francis Weeks, the immigrant. I have some problems with this proposed lineage – no marriage record for Solomon and Nancy, no baptisms for their kids, no wills, no tax records, at least that I can find -- which lead me to try tracking down Gilbert. And that lead to more problems. Below are my thoughts on this line, presented in the hope that someone can either point me in the right direction or tell me where I've gone wrong! I: SOLOMON It appears that Daniel Weeks and his wife Mary Alling did indeed have a son named Solomon born in 1697. However, I believe it was a different and younger Solomon who married Miss Waters/Walters, whatever her actual first name was. I base this on the 1771 Will of William Waters, which mentions his daughter Gretia, her "first husband" Solomon Weeks and his "three grandchildren": Isaac, Solomon and Rachel. It seems unlikely that the Solomon born in 1697 would have a father-in-law alive in 1771. A more likely candidate is the Solomon Weeks whose father, Abraham, was the brother of Solomon of 1697. And if the Solomon born in 1697 DID marry Gretia Walters, this will shows that they had no son named Gilbert. Either way, then, there is a hole in the generally accepted lineage of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799). If Solomon of 1697 did marry Gretia Walters, then the couple weren't Gilbert's parents. And if the Solomon of 1697 didn't marry Gretia Walters, then the mother of Gilbert had to be someone else. II GILBERTS GILBERTS EVERYWHERE Doubts thus raised, I began looking for records of my Gilbert with the idea of tying him to Solomon or some other Weeks family. One problem: There were at least three Gilbert Weeks alive in the mid-1700s in New York, two of them in Dutchess/Putnam County! We have: -Gilbert Weeks Number One -- who married Phebe Hall at Hempstead, Long Island, in 1751. -Gilbert Weeks Number Two – who married Phebe Southard at Rombout, Dutchess County, Jan. 1, 1764. -Gilbert Weeks Number Three – who as "Gilbert Jr." married Jemimah Van Amburgh at Rombout March 3, 1766, this couple being my ancestors. If Solomon of 1697 DID have a son named Gilbert, it could be any of the above three. How did earlier genealogists tell them apart? Or were they unaware of the existence of more than one or in possession of records I have yet to find? I don't know, and I have yet to find anything to tie any of these Gilberts to Solomon. What I do know for sure about my Gilbert is this: He is buried in the Fishkill DRC churchyard beside Jemima. His stone records his birth on April 27, 1741, and his death on March 12, 1799. An administrator's bond filed after his death gives the date as March 14 and the place as Philips. He appears in the Rombout Church records as Gilbert Jr., baptizing children named Chauncey, Jemima and Richard. Other children were Rachel/Elizabeth (my ancestor), James, George and John. More are possible. I have not found his baptism, which, of course, would solve the mystery of his parentage and eliminate the need for this lengthy post! The earliest reference I have to him comes from an unpublished typescript sent to me by a cousin who got it from the author, Ruth Ewing Bradford. It says: "I have in my possession a paper, the original copy of the indenture of Gilbert Weeks of Courtland Manor, to learn the trade of a Blacksmith, at Fishkill, of James Weeks executed Feb. 1, 1756, witnessed by Abraham Weeks and Daniel Sutton in which it is stated he has the consent of his father and mother, Job Wright and his wife Mary. ... I assume that after Solomon Week's death his widow married Job Wright and that he figured as Gilbert's stepfather." James presumably was a brother, and he is indeed listed as such in the Bradford typescript along with Abraham and Absalom. Their parents are given, without a source, as Solomon Weeks and Mary Waters. Checking the Fishkill cemetery again, I do find a James Weeks there: "James Weeks/Born November ye 10th 1737/Died Novemb ye 15th 1790/Aged 53 years/Remember me I once had breath/In the midst of life--we are in death/Death calls us home--we must obey/I was well--sick--and dead all in one day." Cheerful fellow. In 1793, a vendue (auction) list was filed for the estate of James Weeks of Rumbout Precinct, Dutchess County. Among the purchasers were Agnes Weeks, Chancey Weeks, Richard Weeks and Gilbert Weeks. ("Genealogical Data from Inventories of New York Estates, 1666-1825." Kenneth Scott and James A. Owre, New York, 1970.) This makes it seem all the likelier that Gilbert and James were brothers or at least related. Turning south to look for further records, I have found little on the Weeks family in Cortlandt Manor – certainly no Solomon, Mary or Job Wright. But in the New York Historical Society's "Muster rolls of New York provincial troops, 1755-1764," I do find: Gilbert Weeks, 18, laborer born in North Castle, 5'8", brown eyes and brown hair, enlisted March 19, 1759, in Captain Brown's company of Westchester County militia. North Castle is within stone-throwing distance of Cortlandt Manor and the age matches – could this be Gilbert (1741 to 1799)? In the same book is listed: Gilbert Weeks, 20, laborer born in New England, 5'4", brown hair, brown complexion, brown eyes, enlisted June 9, 1760, in Captain Rogers' company of Westchester County Militia. This could of course by Gilbert (1799-1841), too. Or it could be the Gilbert who married Phebe Southard. Or it could be a fourth Gilbert! In any case, if born in New England, we can safely assume that he, at least, was not a son of Solomon Weeks of Oyster Bay. Things get still more muddled when one turns to Revolutionary War records. A Gilbert Weeks served as an ensign and later a lieutenant in an Orange County, NY, militia company. A biography of the grandson of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) included in a late-1800s county history makes the claim that he lived in Orange County at the time and indeed served in the militia at Fort Montgomery. Another Gilbert Weeks (or the same) captained a vessel along the Hudson and served in Capt. Weisenfel's company under Col. Phillip Van Cortlandt. In 1822, a Gilbert Weeks of Peekskill filed a pension application claiming that he was this soldier; it was rejected. And Gilbert Weeks of Fishkill, husband to Phebe, made his will Dec. 13, 1824, naming wife and minor children Samuel, Jane Griffin, Susan, Abigail, John William and Gilbert. Could this or the pension applicant be the same man who married Phebe Southard way back in the 1760s? One final mystery, one final stone in the Fishkill churchyard: "Mistress Nancy Weeks/Born Feb. 26/1712/Died Aug 26/1778/Aged 66 years 6 mos An Honest Dame/a frugal wife/we greved Her much/when she left this Lyfe." Could this be the mother of one of the Gilberts? Congratulations to anyone who's managed to read through this. Any assistance or suggestions are welcome! -Jim Miller jm1982@gmail.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lestokes Surnames: LAWSON/RHOADS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/1123.4193/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Donn: Researching William Lawson b. July 26,1806 d. October 04, 1838; m. Nov. 15, 1827 Harriet Rhoads b. December 15, 1810 d. October 20, 1884. Any information appreciated. Evelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi! My name is Dean Dannewitz, I live in Florida and I joined the list to seek help in tracking down what happened to my Great Great Grandfather Abraham Pendlebury and his family. They came from England on the ship "Echo" in 1842. I have unverified information that he married Elinor Fawcett in 1845 in Poughkeepsie and that a son George Henry Pendlebury was born in Poughkeepsie in 1848. The marriage was performed by a Rev. A. F. Palmer, church unknown. The 1850 census shows that his brother Jacob, sister Elizabeth, and sister Hannah, and sister Jane lived in Poughkeepsie but there is no sign of his parents, John Pendlebury and Alice Pendlebury, or his sister Alice or sister Mary. I would like to find where they all died and where they are buried with the hope that it will lead me to find where my Great Grandfather is also buried. After fathering two children with Elinor Pendlebury, she ended up moving to Wisconsin with the Fawcett family and divorcing Abraham. Abraham disappeared until he enlisted in the Union Army in 1863 in New York and was almost immediately discharged as disabled because of severe consumption. In 1866-67 he was a patient at Tewksbury State Hospital in Massachusetts, but he was discharge after a short stay. I cannot find him in Massachusetts, so my suspicion is that he returned to his relatives in Poughkeepsie. I am retired and unable to travel. I ask that someone familiar with the Poughkeepsie area and records advise me on how to search for what happened to the Pendlebury family and especially my Great Grandfather Abraham Pendlebury. Dean V. Dannewitz

Hi Jim, Hustis, Heustace, Hustead, Yousted, Hughsted, Ewstis, whatever, is all the same family. We know who the original immigrant was but filling in the holes in just my little family line is going to be my undoing!!! Thanks! Kathie On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Jim Miller <jm1982@gmail.com> wrote: > I have two Dutchess County Husteds in my tree: Joseph, who married > Elizabeth Knapp Jan. 28, 1804. (Don't have the location; believe I > copied the date from Alfred Averill Knapp's "Nicholas Knapp > Genealogy.") As per a family bible, Elizabeth lived from 1783 to 1842. > Her father, Capt. Israel Knapp (c. 1733/34-1796), was my ancestor, > through his son Elijah. > > The other Husted was Mary or Hanna, who was the wife of David Knapp > (1774-1847), a brother to Elijah and Elizabeth. I don't have the > parents of either Husted. > > The "Nicholas Knapp Genealogy" says that Husted is the same name as > Hustis. Joseph Husted, it says, died Feb. 22, 1848 "GR N. Highlands > NY." Children are listed as Fanny, Nancy, Joseph, Gilbert (born Nov. > 28, 1796), Sarah, Nicholas, Jemima, James Harvey and Robert. > > Israel Knapp lived at Philipstown. I have no concrete info on his > ancestry or that of his wife, Mary Hennion. Dutchess County research, > I've found, is far tougher than it is across the river in Ulster! > > Good luck in your search, > Jim Miller > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:19 PM, M. Kathleen Felsted <mkfelsted@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > > I loved your post! And I read every word. Also loved your > > documentation... > > > > Wish I could help you.... Unfortunately, my unknown Gilbert is Gilbert > > Husted, supposedly born in Dutchess County about 1750ish, but I have no > > proof of any of my 5 VA Husteds being born here/there! (John, Moses, > > Gilbert, Robert, Ann are the 5) Gilbert's brother John, named one of his > > sons, Solomon. Gilbert named his two sons: Caleb and Jesse. > > > > Kathie > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Jim Miller <jm1982@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hello all, > >> > >> Not sure this is strictly "Dutch Colonies," but knowing how many > >> people are on this list and how varied their backgrounds and interests > >> are, I thought I'd take a chance and post it here. > >> > >> I have for some time been trying to document the oft-quoted ancestry > >> of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) of Philips Precinct, Dutchess/Putnam > >> County N.Y., husband of Jemima Van Amburgh. The proposed line, for > >> which I have never found a primary > >> source, is that he was the son of Solomon Weeks and > >> Nancy/Margaret/Gretia Waters/Walters of Oyster Bay, Solomon being the > >> son of Daniel Weeks, son of Francis Weeks, the immigrant. > >> > >> I have some problems with this proposed lineage – no marriage record > >> for Solomon and Nancy, no baptisms for their kids, no wills, no tax > >> records, at least that I can find -- which lead me to try tracking > >> down Gilbert. And that lead to more problems. Below are my thoughts on > >> this line, presented in the hope that someone can either point me in > >> the right direction or tell me where I've gone wrong! > >> > >> I: SOLOMON > >> > >> It appears that Daniel Weeks and his wife Mary Alling did indeed have > >> a son named Solomon born in 1697. However, I believe it was a > >> different and younger Solomon who married Miss Waters/Walters, > >> whatever her actual first name was. I base this on the 1771 Will of > >> William Waters, which mentions his daughter Gretia, her "first > >> husband" Solomon Weeks and his "three grandchildren": Isaac, Solomon > >> and Rachel. > >> > >> It seems unlikely that the Solomon born in 1697 would have a > >> father-in-law alive in 1771. A more likely candidate is the Solomon > >> Weeks whose father, Abraham, was the brother of Solomon of 1697. And > >> if the Solomon born in 1697 DID marry Gretia Walters, this will shows > >> that they had no son named Gilbert. > >> > >> Either way, then, there is a hole in the generally accepted lineage of > >> Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799). If Solomon of 1697 did marry Gretia > >> Walters, then the couple weren't Gilbert's parents. And if the Solomon > >> of 1697 didn't marry Gretia Walters, then the mother of Gilbert had to > >> be someone else. > >> > >> II GILBERTS GILBERTS EVERYWHERE > >> > >> Doubts thus raised, I began looking for records of my Gilbert with the > >> idea of tying him to Solomon or some other Weeks family. One problem: > >> There were at least three Gilbert Weeks alive in the mid-1700s in New > >> York, two of them in Dutchess/Putnam County! We have: > >> -Gilbert Weeks Number One -- who married Phebe Hall at Hempstead, Long > >> Island, in 1751. > >> -Gilbert Weeks Number Two – who married Phebe Southard at Rombout, > >> Dutchess County, Jan. 1, 1764. > >> -Gilbert Weeks Number Three – who as "Gilbert Jr." married Jemimah Van > >> Amburgh at Rombout March 3, 1766, this couple being my ancestors. > >> > >> If Solomon of 1697 DID have a son named Gilbert, it could be any of > >> the above three. How did earlier genealogists tell them apart? Or were > >> they unaware of the existence of more than one or in possession of > >> records I have yet to find? I don't know, and I have yet to find > >> anything to tie any of these Gilberts to Solomon. > >> > >> What I do know for sure about my Gilbert is this: He is buried in the > >> Fishkill DRC churchyard beside Jemima. His stone records his birth on > >> April 27, 1741, and his death on March 12, 1799. An administrator's > >> bond filed after his death gives the date as March 14 and the place as > >> Philips. > >> > >> He appears in the Rombout Church records as Gilbert Jr., baptizing > >> children named Chauncey, Jemima and Richard. Other children were > >> Rachel/Elizabeth (my ancestor), James, George and John. More are > >> possible. > >> > >> I have not found his baptism, which, of course, would solve the > >> mystery of his parentage and eliminate the need for this lengthy post! > >> The earliest reference I have to him comes from an unpublished > >> typescript sent to me by a cousin who got it from the author, Ruth > >> Ewing Bradford. It says: > >> > >> "I have in my possession a paper, the original copy of the indenture > >> of Gilbert Weeks of Courtland Manor, to learn the trade of a > >> Blacksmith, at Fishkill, of James Weeks executed Feb. 1, 1756, > >> witnessed by Abraham Weeks and Daniel Sutton in which it is stated he > >> has the consent of his father and mother, Job Wright and his wife > >> Mary. ... I assume that after Solomon Week's death his widow married > >> Job Wright and that he figured as Gilbert's stepfather." > >> > >> James presumably was a brother, and he is indeed listed as such in the > >> Bradford typescript along with Abraham and Absalom. Their parents are > >> given, without a source, as Solomon Weeks and Mary Waters. > >> > >> Checking the Fishkill cemetery again, I do find a James Weeks there: > >> "James Weeks/Born November ye 10th 1737/Died Novemb ye 15th 1790/Aged > >> 53 years/Remember me I once had breath/In the midst of life--we are in > >> death/Death calls us home--we must obey/I was well--sick--and dead all > >> in one day." > >> > >> Cheerful fellow. > >> > >> In 1793, a vendue (auction) list was filed for the estate of James > >> Weeks of Rumbout Precinct, Dutchess County. Among the purchasers were > >> Agnes Weeks, Chancey Weeks, Richard Weeks and Gilbert Weeks. > >> ("Genealogical Data from Inventories of New York Estates, 1666-1825." > >> Kenneth Scott and James A. Owre, New York, 1970.) > >> > >> This makes it seem all the likelier that Gilbert and James were > >> brothers or at least related. Turning south to look for further > >> records, I have found little on the Weeks family in Cortlandt Manor – > >> certainly no Solomon, Mary or Job Wright. But in the New York > >> Historical Society's "Muster rolls of New York provincial troops, > >> 1755-1764," I do find: > >> > >> Gilbert Weeks, 18, laborer born in North Castle, 5'8", brown eyes and > >> brown hair, enlisted March 19, 1759, in Captain Brown's company of > >> Westchester County militia. > >> > >> North Castle is within stone-throwing distance of Cortlandt Manor and > >> the age matches – could this be Gilbert (1741 to 1799)? > >> > >> In the same book is listed: > >> > >> Gilbert Weeks, 20, laborer born in New England, 5'4", brown hair, > >> brown complexion, brown eyes, enlisted June 9, 1760, in Captain > >> Rogers' company of Westchester County Militia. > >> > >> This could of course by Gilbert (1799-1841), too. Or it could be the > >> Gilbert who married Phebe Southard. Or it could be a fourth Gilbert! > >> In any case, if born in New England, we can safely assume that he, at > >> least, was not a son of Solomon Weeks of Oyster Bay. > >> > >> Things get still more muddled when one turns to Revolutionary War > >> records. A Gilbert Weeks served as an ensign and later a lieutenant in > >> an Orange County, NY, militia company. A biography of the grandson of > >> Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) included in a late-1800s county history > >> makes the claim that he lived in Orange County at the time and indeed > >> served in the militia at Fort Montgomery. > >> > >> Another Gilbert Weeks (or the same) captained a vessel along the > >> Hudson and served in Capt. Weisenfel's company under Col. Phillip Van > >> Cortlandt. In 1822, a Gilbert Weeks of Peekskill filed a pension > >> application claiming that he was this soldier; it was rejected. > >> > >> And Gilbert Weeks of Fishkill, husband to Phebe, made his will Dec. > >> 13, 1824, naming wife and minor children Samuel, Jane Griffin, Susan, > >> Abigail, John William and Gilbert. Could this or the pension applicant > >> be the same man who married Phebe Southard way back in the 1760s? > >> > >> One final mystery, one final stone in the Fishkill churchyard: > >> > >> "Mistress Nancy Weeks/Born Feb. 26/1712/Died Aug 26/1778/Aged 66 years > >> 6 mos An Honest Dame/a frugal wife/we greved Her much/when she left > >> this Lyfe." > >> > >> Could this be the mother of one of the Gilberts? > >> > >> Congratulations to anyone who's managed to read through this. Any > >> assistance or suggestions are welcome! > >> > >> -Jim Miller > >> jm1982@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > M. Kathleen Felsted > > mkfelsted@gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- M. Kathleen Felsted mkfelsted@gmail.com

I have two Dutchess County Husteds in my tree: Joseph, who married Elizabeth Knapp Jan. 28, 1804. (Don't have the location; believe I copied the date from Alfred Averill Knapp's "Nicholas Knapp Genealogy.") As per a family bible, Elizabeth lived from 1783 to 1842. Her father, Capt. Israel Knapp (c. 1733/34-1796), was my ancestor, through his son Elijah. The other Husted was Mary or Hanna, who was the wife of David Knapp (1774-1847), a brother to Elijah and Elizabeth. I don't have the parents of either Husted. The "Nicholas Knapp Genealogy" says that Husted is the same name as Hustis. Joseph Husted, it says, died Feb. 22, 1848 "GR N. Highlands NY." Children are listed as Fanny, Nancy, Joseph, Gilbert (born Nov. 28, 1796), Sarah, Nicholas, Jemima, James Harvey and Robert. Israel Knapp lived at Philipstown. I have no concrete info on his ancestry or that of his wife, Mary Hennion. Dutchess County research, I've found, is far tougher than it is across the river in Ulster! Good luck in your search, Jim Miller On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:19 PM, M. Kathleen Felsted <mkfelsted@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I loved your post! And I read every word. Also loved your > documentation... > > Wish I could help you.... Unfortunately, my unknown Gilbert is Gilbert > Husted, supposedly born in Dutchess County about 1750ish, but I have no > proof of any of my 5 VA Husteds being born here/there! (John, Moses, > Gilbert, Robert, Ann are the 5) Gilbert's brother John, named one of his > sons, Solomon. Gilbert named his two sons: Caleb and Jesse. > > Kathie > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Jim Miller <jm1982@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Not sure this is strictly "Dutch Colonies," but knowing how many >> people are on this list and how varied their backgrounds and interests >> are, I thought I'd take a chance and post it here. >> >> I have for some time been trying to document the oft-quoted ancestry >> of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) of Philips Precinct, Dutchess/Putnam >> County N.Y., husband of Jemima Van Amburgh. The proposed line, for >> which I have never found a primary >> source, is that he was the son of Solomon Weeks and >> Nancy/Margaret/Gretia Waters/Walters of Oyster Bay, Solomon being the >> son of Daniel Weeks, son of Francis Weeks, the immigrant. >> >> I have some problems with this proposed lineage – no marriage record >> for Solomon and Nancy, no baptisms for their kids, no wills, no tax >> records, at least that I can find -- which lead me to try tracking >> down Gilbert. And that lead to more problems. Below are my thoughts on >> this line, presented in the hope that someone can either point me in >> the right direction or tell me where I've gone wrong! >> >> I: SOLOMON >> >> It appears that Daniel Weeks and his wife Mary Alling did indeed have >> a son named Solomon born in 1697. However, I believe it was a >> different and younger Solomon who married Miss Waters/Walters, >> whatever her actual first name was. I base this on the 1771 Will of >> William Waters, which mentions his daughter Gretia, her "first >> husband" Solomon Weeks and his "three grandchildren": Isaac, Solomon >> and Rachel. >> >> It seems unlikely that the Solomon born in 1697 would have a >> father-in-law alive in 1771. A more likely candidate is the Solomon >> Weeks whose father, Abraham, was the brother of Solomon of 1697. And >> if the Solomon born in 1697 DID marry Gretia Walters, this will shows >> that they had no son named Gilbert. >> >> Either way, then, there is a hole in the generally accepted lineage of >> Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799). If Solomon of 1697 did marry Gretia >> Walters, then the couple weren't Gilbert's parents. And if the Solomon >> of 1697 didn't marry Gretia Walters, then the mother of Gilbert had to >> be someone else. >> >> II GILBERTS GILBERTS EVERYWHERE >> >> Doubts thus raised, I began looking for records of my Gilbert with the >> idea of tying him to Solomon or some other Weeks family. One problem: >> There were at least three Gilbert Weeks alive in the mid-1700s in New >> York, two of them in Dutchess/Putnam County! We have: >> -Gilbert Weeks Number One -- who married Phebe Hall at Hempstead, Long >> Island, in 1751. >> -Gilbert Weeks Number Two – who married Phebe Southard at Rombout, >> Dutchess County, Jan. 1, 1764. >> -Gilbert Weeks Number Three – who as "Gilbert Jr." married Jemimah Van >> Amburgh at Rombout March 3, 1766, this couple being my ancestors. >> >> If Solomon of 1697 DID have a son named Gilbert, it could be any of >> the above three. How did earlier genealogists tell them apart? Or were >> they unaware of the existence of more than one or in possession of >> records I have yet to find? I don't know, and I have yet to find >> anything to tie any of these Gilberts to Solomon. >> >> What I do know for sure about my Gilbert is this: He is buried in the >> Fishkill DRC churchyard beside Jemima. His stone records his birth on >> April 27, 1741, and his death on March 12, 1799. An administrator's >> bond filed after his death gives the date as March 14 and the place as >> Philips. >> >> He appears in the Rombout Church records as Gilbert Jr., baptizing >> children named Chauncey, Jemima and Richard. Other children were >> Rachel/Elizabeth (my ancestor), James, George and John. More are >> possible. >> >> I have not found his baptism, which, of course, would solve the >> mystery of his parentage and eliminate the need for this lengthy post! >> The earliest reference I have to him comes from an unpublished >> typescript sent to me by a cousin who got it from the author, Ruth >> Ewing Bradford. It says: >> >> "I have in my possession a paper, the original copy of the indenture >> of Gilbert Weeks of Courtland Manor, to learn the trade of a >> Blacksmith, at Fishkill, of James Weeks executed Feb. 1, 1756, >> witnessed by Abraham Weeks and Daniel Sutton in which it is stated he >> has the consent of his father and mother, Job Wright and his wife >> Mary. ... I assume that after Solomon Week's death his widow married >> Job Wright and that he figured as Gilbert's stepfather." >> >> James presumably was a brother, and he is indeed listed as such in the >> Bradford typescript along with Abraham and Absalom. Their parents are >> given, without a source, as Solomon Weeks and Mary Waters. >> >> Checking the Fishkill cemetery again, I do find a James Weeks there: >> "James Weeks/Born November ye 10th 1737/Died Novemb ye 15th 1790/Aged >> 53 years/Remember me I once had breath/In the midst of life--we are in >> death/Death calls us home--we must obey/I was well--sick--and dead all >> in one day." >> >> Cheerful fellow. >> >> In 1793, a vendue (auction) list was filed for the estate of James >> Weeks of Rumbout Precinct, Dutchess County. Among the purchasers were >> Agnes Weeks, Chancey Weeks, Richard Weeks and Gilbert Weeks. >> ("Genealogical Data from Inventories of New York Estates, 1666-1825." >> Kenneth Scott and James A. Owre, New York, 1970.) >> >> This makes it seem all the likelier that Gilbert and James were >> brothers or at least related. Turning south to look for further >> records, I have found little on the Weeks family in Cortlandt Manor – >> certainly no Solomon, Mary or Job Wright. But in the New York >> Historical Society's "Muster rolls of New York provincial troops, >> 1755-1764," I do find: >> >> Gilbert Weeks, 18, laborer born in North Castle, 5'8", brown eyes and >> brown hair, enlisted March 19, 1759, in Captain Brown's company of >> Westchester County militia. >> >> North Castle is within stone-throwing distance of Cortlandt Manor and >> the age matches – could this be Gilbert (1741 to 1799)? >> >> In the same book is listed: >> >> Gilbert Weeks, 20, laborer born in New England, 5'4", brown hair, >> brown complexion, brown eyes, enlisted June 9, 1760, in Captain >> Rogers' company of Westchester County Militia. >> >> This could of course by Gilbert (1799-1841), too. Or it could be the >> Gilbert who married Phebe Southard. Or it could be a fourth Gilbert! >> In any case, if born in New England, we can safely assume that he, at >> least, was not a son of Solomon Weeks of Oyster Bay. >> >> Things get still more muddled when one turns to Revolutionary War >> records. A Gilbert Weeks served as an ensign and later a lieutenant in >> an Orange County, NY, militia company. A biography of the grandson of >> Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) included in a late-1800s county history >> makes the claim that he lived in Orange County at the time and indeed >> served in the militia at Fort Montgomery. >> >> Another Gilbert Weeks (or the same) captained a vessel along the >> Hudson and served in Capt. Weisenfel's company under Col. Phillip Van >> Cortlandt. In 1822, a Gilbert Weeks of Peekskill filed a pension >> application claiming that he was this soldier; it was rejected. >> >> And Gilbert Weeks of Fishkill, husband to Phebe, made his will Dec. >> 13, 1824, naming wife and minor children Samuel, Jane Griffin, Susan, >> Abigail, John William and Gilbert. Could this or the pension applicant >> be the same man who married Phebe Southard way back in the 1760s? >> >> One final mystery, one final stone in the Fishkill churchyard: >> >> "Mistress Nancy Weeks/Born Feb. 26/1712/Died Aug 26/1778/Aged 66 years >> 6 mos An Honest Dame/a frugal wife/we greved Her much/when she left >> this Lyfe." >> >> Could this be the mother of one of the Gilberts? >> >> Congratulations to anyone who's managed to read through this. Any >> assistance or suggestions are welcome! >> >> -Jim Miller >> jm1982@gmail.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > M. Kathleen Felsted > mkfelsted@gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jim, I loved your post! And I read every word. Also loved your documentation... Wish I could help you.... Unfortunately, my unknown Gilbert is Gilbert Husted, supposedly born in Dutchess County about 1750ish, but I have no proof of any of my 5 VA Husteds being born here/there! (John, Moses, Gilbert, Robert, Ann are the 5) Gilbert's brother John, named one of his sons, Solomon. Gilbert named his two sons: Caleb and Jesse. Kathie On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Jim Miller <jm1982@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > Not sure this is strictly "Dutch Colonies," but knowing how many > people are on this list and how varied their backgrounds and interests > are, I thought I'd take a chance and post it here. > > I have for some time been trying to document the oft-quoted ancestry > of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) of Philips Precinct, Dutchess/Putnam > County N.Y., husband of Jemima Van Amburgh. The proposed line, for > which I have never found a primary > source, is that he was the son of Solomon Weeks and > Nancy/Margaret/Gretia Waters/Walters of Oyster Bay, Solomon being the > son of Daniel Weeks, son of Francis Weeks, the immigrant. > > I have some problems with this proposed lineage – no marriage record > for Solomon and Nancy, no baptisms for their kids, no wills, no tax > records, at least that I can find -- which lead me to try tracking > down Gilbert. And that lead to more problems. Below are my thoughts on > this line, presented in the hope that someone can either point me in > the right direction or tell me where I've gone wrong! > > I: SOLOMON > > It appears that Daniel Weeks and his wife Mary Alling did indeed have > a son named Solomon born in 1697. However, I believe it was a > different and younger Solomon who married Miss Waters/Walters, > whatever her actual first name was. I base this on the 1771 Will of > William Waters, which mentions his daughter Gretia, her "first > husband" Solomon Weeks and his "three grandchildren": Isaac, Solomon > and Rachel. > > It seems unlikely that the Solomon born in 1697 would have a > father-in-law alive in 1771. A more likely candidate is the Solomon > Weeks whose father, Abraham, was the brother of Solomon of 1697. And > if the Solomon born in 1697 DID marry Gretia Walters, this will shows > that they had no son named Gilbert. > > Either way, then, there is a hole in the generally accepted lineage of > Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799). If Solomon of 1697 did marry Gretia > Walters, then the couple weren't Gilbert's parents. And if the Solomon > of 1697 didn't marry Gretia Walters, then the mother of Gilbert had to > be someone else. > > II GILBERTS GILBERTS EVERYWHERE > > Doubts thus raised, I began looking for records of my Gilbert with the > idea of tying him to Solomon or some other Weeks family. One problem: > There were at least three Gilbert Weeks alive in the mid-1700s in New > York, two of them in Dutchess/Putnam County! We have: > -Gilbert Weeks Number One -- who married Phebe Hall at Hempstead, Long > Island, in 1751. > -Gilbert Weeks Number Two – who married Phebe Southard at Rombout, > Dutchess County, Jan. 1, 1764. > -Gilbert Weeks Number Three – who as "Gilbert Jr." married Jemimah Van > Amburgh at Rombout March 3, 1766, this couple being my ancestors. > > If Solomon of 1697 DID have a son named Gilbert, it could be any of > the above three. How did earlier genealogists tell them apart? Or were > they unaware of the existence of more than one or in possession of > records I have yet to find? I don't know, and I have yet to find > anything to tie any of these Gilberts to Solomon. > > What I do know for sure about my Gilbert is this: He is buried in the > Fishkill DRC churchyard beside Jemima. His stone records his birth on > April 27, 1741, and his death on March 12, 1799. An administrator's > bond filed after his death gives the date as March 14 and the place as > Philips. > > He appears in the Rombout Church records as Gilbert Jr., baptizing > children named Chauncey, Jemima and Richard. Other children were > Rachel/Elizabeth (my ancestor), James, George and John. More are > possible. > > I have not found his baptism, which, of course, would solve the > mystery of his parentage and eliminate the need for this lengthy post! > The earliest reference I have to him comes from an unpublished > typescript sent to me by a cousin who got it from the author, Ruth > Ewing Bradford. It says: > > "I have in my possession a paper, the original copy of the indenture > of Gilbert Weeks of Courtland Manor, to learn the trade of a > Blacksmith, at Fishkill, of James Weeks executed Feb. 1, 1756, > witnessed by Abraham Weeks and Daniel Sutton in which it is stated he > has the consent of his father and mother, Job Wright and his wife > Mary. ... I assume that after Solomon Week's death his widow married > Job Wright and that he figured as Gilbert's stepfather." > > James presumably was a brother, and he is indeed listed as such in the > Bradford typescript along with Abraham and Absalom. Their parents are > given, without a source, as Solomon Weeks and Mary Waters. > > Checking the Fishkill cemetery again, I do find a James Weeks there: > "James Weeks/Born November ye 10th 1737/Died Novemb ye 15th 1790/Aged > 53 years/Remember me I once had breath/In the midst of life--we are in > death/Death calls us home--we must obey/I was well--sick--and dead all > in one day." > > Cheerful fellow. > > In 1793, a vendue (auction) list was filed for the estate of James > Weeks of Rumbout Precinct, Dutchess County. Among the purchasers were > Agnes Weeks, Chancey Weeks, Richard Weeks and Gilbert Weeks. > ("Genealogical Data from Inventories of New York Estates, 1666-1825." > Kenneth Scott and James A. Owre, New York, 1970.) > > This makes it seem all the likelier that Gilbert and James were > brothers or at least related. Turning south to look for further > records, I have found little on the Weeks family in Cortlandt Manor – > certainly no Solomon, Mary or Job Wright. But in the New York > Historical Society's "Muster rolls of New York provincial troops, > 1755-1764," I do find: > > Gilbert Weeks, 18, laborer born in North Castle, 5'8", brown eyes and > brown hair, enlisted March 19, 1759, in Captain Brown's company of > Westchester County militia. > > North Castle is within stone-throwing distance of Cortlandt Manor and > the age matches – could this be Gilbert (1741 to 1799)? > > In the same book is listed: > > Gilbert Weeks, 20, laborer born in New England, 5'4", brown hair, > brown complexion, brown eyes, enlisted June 9, 1760, in Captain > Rogers' company of Westchester County Militia. > > This could of course by Gilbert (1799-1841), too. Or it could be the > Gilbert who married Phebe Southard. Or it could be a fourth Gilbert! > In any case, if born in New England, we can safely assume that he, at > least, was not a son of Solomon Weeks of Oyster Bay. > > Things get still more muddled when one turns to Revolutionary War > records. A Gilbert Weeks served as an ensign and later a lieutenant in > an Orange County, NY, militia company. A biography of the grandson of > Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) included in a late-1800s county history > makes the claim that he lived in Orange County at the time and indeed > served in the militia at Fort Montgomery. > > Another Gilbert Weeks (or the same) captained a vessel along the > Hudson and served in Capt. Weisenfel's company under Col. Phillip Van > Cortlandt. In 1822, a Gilbert Weeks of Peekskill filed a pension > application claiming that he was this soldier; it was rejected. > > And Gilbert Weeks of Fishkill, husband to Phebe, made his will Dec. > 13, 1824, naming wife and minor children Samuel, Jane Griffin, Susan, > Abigail, John William and Gilbert. Could this or the pension applicant > be the same man who married Phebe Southard way back in the 1760s? > > One final mystery, one final stone in the Fishkill churchyard: > > "Mistress Nancy Weeks/Born Feb. 26/1712/Died Aug 26/1778/Aged 66 years > 6 mos An Honest Dame/a frugal wife/we greved Her much/when she left > this Lyfe." > > Could this be the mother of one of the Gilberts? > > Congratulations to anyone who's managed to read through this. Any > assistance or suggestions are welcome! > > -Jim Miller > jm1982@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- M. Kathleen Felsted mkfelsted@gmail.com

Hi Jim, I don't know if this will help but I looked up Gilbert Weeks at www.footenote.com for Revolutionary war pensions and this is what I found. A Gilbert Weeks was a deponent for William Gailor on 9 Feb 1827 at the time Gilbert was a ship carpenter in New York City a resident for three years. He states he was "formerly of Peekskill, Manor of Cortlandt town of Westchester but was brought up in Peekskill but born in White Plains, Westchester county and enlisted with William Gailor in 1775. Gilbert went on board the sloop Heister in 1776 as master under order of Joseph Dobbs and continued to served until 1783. He states he is over 75 years of age and on March next (1828) will be 76 and said Gailor was one year younger. This puts his birth as March 1752. The pension file for Gilbert Weeks that was rejected has no family data in it but on 24 June 1828 he was living in the village of Peekskill, Westchester and was a private in the 2nd Regiment of Infantry commanded by Col. Philip Van Cortlandt. Philip Van Cortlandt also signed an affidavit of Daniel Delaware, Esq and John Anderson judges of the Marine Court of New York City who made oath that Gilbert Weeks was a captain of a vessel that was on the Hudson river from May to June during the war in the year 1777 and that Gilbert was residing in the town of Cortlandt on 5 Dec. 1828 The next pension file was for a James Weeks filed 12 March 1840 in the town of Malta, Saratoga County. James was 87 years of age and was born in the town of North Castle, Westchester Co. on 11 Feb. 1753. He lived in North Castle until the age of 34 and then removed to Malta. I hope I haven't added more fuel to the Gilbert Weeks' fire! Susan M. ************************************************* "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." -- George Bernard Shaw Columbia County, NY Coordinator http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Miller" <jm1982@gmail.com> To: <nydutche@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:46 PM Subject: [NYDUTCHE] WEEKS of Dutchess, Putnam, Westchester and Oyster Bay Hello all, Not sure this is strictly "Dutch Colonies," but knowing how many people are on this list and how varied their backgrounds and interests are, I thought I'd take a chance and post it here. I have for some time been trying to document the oft-quoted ancestry of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) of Philips Precinct, Dutchess/Putnam County N.Y., husband of Jemima Van Amburgh. The proposed line, for which I have never found a primary source, is that he was the son of Solomon Weeks and Nancy/Margaret/Gretia Waters/Walters of Oyster Bay, Solomon being the son of Daniel Weeks, son of Francis Weeks, the immigrant. I have some problems with this proposed lineage – no marriage record for Solomon and Nancy, no baptisms for their kids, no wills, no tax records, at least that I can find -- which lead me to try tracking down Gilbert. And that lead to more problems. Below are my thoughts on this line, presented in the hope that someone can either point me in the right direction or tell me where I've gone wrong! I: SOLOMON It appears that Daniel Weeks and his wife Mary Alling did indeed have a son named Solomon born in 1697. However, I believe it was a different and younger Solomon who married Miss Waters/Walters, whatever her actual first name was. I base this on the 1771 Will of William Waters, which mentions his daughter Gretia, her "first husband" Solomon Weeks and his "three grandchildren": Isaac, Solomon and Rachel. It seems unlikely that the Solomon born in 1697 would have a father-in-law alive in 1771. A more likely candidate is the Solomon Weeks whose father, Abraham, was the brother of Solomon of 1697. And if the Solomon born in 1697 DID marry Gretia Walters, this will shows that they had no son named Gilbert. Either way, then, there is a hole in the generally accepted lineage of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799). If Solomon of 1697 did marry Gretia Walters, then the couple weren't Gilbert's parents. And if the Solomon of 1697 didn't marry Gretia Walters, then the mother of Gilbert had to be someone else. II GILBERTS GILBERTS EVERYWHERE Doubts thus raised, I began looking for records of my Gilbert with the idea of tying him to Solomon or some other Weeks family. One problem: There were at least three Gilbert Weeks alive in the mid-1700s in New York, two of them in Dutchess/Putnam County! We have: -Gilbert Weeks Number One -- who married Phebe Hall at Hempstead, Long Island, in 1751. -Gilbert Weeks Number Two – who married Phebe Southard at Rombout, Dutchess County, Jan. 1, 1764. -Gilbert Weeks Number Three – who as "Gilbert Jr." married Jemimah Van Amburgh at Rombout March 3, 1766, this couple being my ancestors. If Solomon of 1697 DID have a son named Gilbert, it could be any of the above three. How did earlier genealogists tell them apart? Or were they unaware of the existence of more than one or in possession of records I have yet to find? I don't know, and I have yet to find anything to tie any of these Gilberts to Solomon. What I do know for sure about my Gilbert is this: He is buried in the Fishkill DRC churchyard beside Jemima. His stone records his birth on April 27, 1741, and his death on March 12, 1799. An administrator's bond filed after his death gives the date as March 14 and the place as Philips. He appears in the Rombout Church records as Gilbert Jr., baptizing children named Chauncey, Jemima and Richard. Other children were Rachel/Elizabeth (my ancestor), James, George and John. More are possible. I have not found his baptism, which, of course, would solve the mystery of his parentage and eliminate the need for this lengthy post! The earliest reference I have to him comes from an unpublished typescript sent to me by a cousin who got it from the author, Ruth Ewing Bradford. It says: "I have in my possession a paper, the original copy of the indenture of Gilbert Weeks of Courtland Manor, to learn the trade of a Blacksmith, at Fishkill, of James Weeks executed Feb. 1, 1756, witnessed by Abraham Weeks and Daniel Sutton in which it is stated he has the consent of his father and mother, Job Wright and his wife Mary. ... I assume that after Solomon Week's death his widow married Job Wright and that he figured as Gilbert's stepfather." James presumably was a brother, and he is indeed listed as such in the Bradford typescript along with Abraham and Absalom. Their parents are given, without a source, as Solomon Weeks and Mary Waters. Checking the Fishkill cemetery again, I do find a James Weeks there: "James Weeks/Born November ye 10th 1737/Died Novemb ye 15th 1790/Aged 53 years/Remember me I once had breath/In the midst of life--we are in death/Death calls us home--we must obey/I was well--sick--and dead all in one day." Cheerful fellow. In 1793, a vendue (auction) list was filed for the estate of James Weeks of Rumbout Precinct, Dutchess County. Among the purchasers were Agnes Weeks, Chancey Weeks, Richard Weeks and Gilbert Weeks. ("Genealogical Data from Inventories of New York Estates, 1666-1825." Kenneth Scott and James A. Owre, New York, 1970.) This makes it seem all the likelier that Gilbert and James were brothers or at least related. Turning south to look for further records, I have found little on the Weeks family in Cortlandt Manor – certainly no Solomon, Mary or Job Wright. But in the New York Historical Society's "Muster rolls of New York provincial troops, 1755-1764," I do find: Gilbert Weeks, 18, laborer born in North Castle, 5'8", brown eyes and brown hair, enlisted March 19, 1759, in Captain Brown's company of Westchester County militia. North Castle is within stone-throwing distance of Cortlandt Manor and the age matches – could this be Gilbert (1741 to 1799)? In the same book is listed: Gilbert Weeks, 20, laborer born in New England, 5'4", brown hair, brown complexion, brown eyes, enlisted June 9, 1760, in Captain Rogers' company of Westchester County Militia. This could of course by Gilbert (1799-1841), too. Or it could be the Gilbert who married Phebe Southard. Or it could be a fourth Gilbert! In any case, if born in New England, we can safely assume that he, at least, was not a son of Solomon Weeks of Oyster Bay. Things get still more muddled when one turns to Revolutionary War records. A Gilbert Weeks served as an ensign and later a lieutenant in an Orange County, NY, militia company. A biography of the grandson of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) included in a late-1800s county history makes the claim that he lived in Orange County at the time and indeed served in the militia at Fort Montgomery. Another Gilbert Weeks (or the same) captained a vessel along the Hudson and served in Capt. Weisenfel's company under Col. Phillip Van Cortlandt. In 1822, a Gilbert Weeks of Peekskill filed a pension application claiming that he was this soldier; it was rejected. And Gilbert Weeks of Fishkill, husband to Phebe, made his will Dec. 13, 1824, naming wife and minor children Samuel, Jane Griffin, Susan, Abigail, John William and Gilbert. Could this or the pension applicant be the same man who married Phebe Southard way back in the 1760s? One final mystery, one final stone in the Fishkill churchyard: "Mistress Nancy Weeks/Born Feb. 26/1712/Died Aug 26/1778/Aged 66 years 6 mos An Honest Dame/a frugal wife/we greved Her much/when she left this Lyfe." Could this be the mother of one of the Gilberts? Congratulations to anyone who's managed to read through this. Any assistance or suggestions are welcome! -Jim Miller jm1982@gmail.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, Not sure this is strictly "Dutch Colonies," but knowing how many people are on this list and how varied their backgrounds and interests are, I thought I'd take a chance and post it here. I have for some time been trying to document the oft-quoted ancestry of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) of Philips Precinct, Dutchess/Putnam County N.Y., husband of Jemima Van Amburgh. The proposed line, for which I have never found a primary source, is that he was the son of Solomon Weeks and Nancy/Margaret/Gretia Waters/Walters of Oyster Bay, Solomon being the son of Daniel Weeks, son of Francis Weeks, the immigrant. I have some problems with this proposed lineage – no marriage record for Solomon and Nancy, no baptisms for their kids, no wills, no tax records, at least that I can find -- which lead me to try tracking down Gilbert. And that lead to more problems. Below are my thoughts on this line, presented in the hope that someone can either point me in the right direction or tell me where I've gone wrong! I: SOLOMON It appears that Daniel Weeks and his wife Mary Alling did indeed have a son named Solomon born in 1697. However, I believe it was a different and younger Solomon who married Miss Waters/Walters, whatever her actual first name was. I base this on the 1771 Will of William Waters, which mentions his daughter Gretia, her "first husband" Solomon Weeks and his "three grandchildren": Isaac, Solomon and Rachel. It seems unlikely that the Solomon born in 1697 would have a father-in-law alive in 1771. A more likely candidate is the Solomon Weeks whose father, Abraham, was the brother of Solomon of 1697. And if the Solomon born in 1697 DID marry Gretia Walters, this will shows that they had no son named Gilbert. Either way, then, there is a hole in the generally accepted lineage of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799). If Solomon of 1697 did marry Gretia Walters, then the couple weren't Gilbert's parents. And if the Solomon of 1697 didn't marry Gretia Walters, then the mother of Gilbert had to be someone else. II GILBERTS GILBERTS EVERYWHERE Doubts thus raised, I began looking for records of my Gilbert with the idea of tying him to Solomon or some other Weeks family. One problem: There were at least three Gilbert Weeks alive in the mid-1700s in New York, two of them in Dutchess/Putnam County! We have: -Gilbert Weeks Number One -- who married Phebe Hall at Hempstead, Long Island, in 1751. -Gilbert Weeks Number Two – who married Phebe Southard at Rombout, Dutchess County, Jan. 1, 1764. -Gilbert Weeks Number Three – who as "Gilbert Jr." married Jemimah Van Amburgh at Rombout March 3, 1766, this couple being my ancestors. If Solomon of 1697 DID have a son named Gilbert, it could be any of the above three. How did earlier genealogists tell them apart? Or were they unaware of the existence of more than one or in possession of records I have yet to find? I don't know, and I have yet to find anything to tie any of these Gilberts to Solomon. What I do know for sure about my Gilbert is this: He is buried in the Fishkill DRC churchyard beside Jemima. His stone records his birth on April 27, 1741, and his death on March 12, 1799. An administrator's bond filed after his death gives the date as March 14 and the place as Philips. He appears in the Rombout Church records as Gilbert Jr., baptizing children named Chauncey, Jemima and Richard. Other children were Rachel/Elizabeth (my ancestor), James, George and John. More are possible. I have not found his baptism, which, of course, would solve the mystery of his parentage and eliminate the need for this lengthy post! The earliest reference I have to him comes from an unpublished typescript sent to me by a cousin who got it from the author, Ruth Ewing Bradford. It says: "I have in my possession a paper, the original copy of the indenture of Gilbert Weeks of Courtland Manor, to learn the trade of a Blacksmith, at Fishkill, of James Weeks executed Feb. 1, 1756, witnessed by Abraham Weeks and Daniel Sutton in which it is stated he has the consent of his father and mother, Job Wright and his wife Mary. ... I assume that after Solomon Week's death his widow married Job Wright and that he figured as Gilbert's stepfather." James presumably was a brother, and he is indeed listed as such in the Bradford typescript along with Abraham and Absalom. Their parents are given, without a source, as Solomon Weeks and Mary Waters. Checking the Fishkill cemetery again, I do find a James Weeks there: "James Weeks/Born November ye 10th 1737/Died Novemb ye 15th 1790/Aged 53 years/Remember me I once had breath/In the midst of life--we are in death/Death calls us home--we must obey/I was well--sick--and dead all in one day." Cheerful fellow. In 1793, a vendue (auction) list was filed for the estate of James Weeks of Rumbout Precinct, Dutchess County. Among the purchasers were Agnes Weeks, Chancey Weeks, Richard Weeks and Gilbert Weeks. ("Genealogical Data from Inventories of New York Estates, 1666-1825." Kenneth Scott and James A. Owre, New York, 1970.) This makes it seem all the likelier that Gilbert and James were brothers or at least related. Turning south to look for further records, I have found little on the Weeks family in Cortlandt Manor – certainly no Solomon, Mary or Job Wright. But in the New York Historical Society's "Muster rolls of New York provincial troops, 1755-1764," I do find: Gilbert Weeks, 18, laborer born in North Castle, 5'8", brown eyes and brown hair, enlisted March 19, 1759, in Captain Brown's company of Westchester County militia. North Castle is within stone-throwing distance of Cortlandt Manor and the age matches – could this be Gilbert (1741 to 1799)? In the same book is listed: Gilbert Weeks, 20, laborer born in New England, 5'4", brown hair, brown complexion, brown eyes, enlisted June 9, 1760, in Captain Rogers' company of Westchester County Militia. This could of course by Gilbert (1799-1841), too. Or it could be the Gilbert who married Phebe Southard. Or it could be a fourth Gilbert! In any case, if born in New England, we can safely assume that he, at least, was not a son of Solomon Weeks of Oyster Bay. Things get still more muddled when one turns to Revolutionary War records. A Gilbert Weeks served as an ensign and later a lieutenant in an Orange County, NY, militia company. A biography of the grandson of Gilbert Weeks (1741-1799) included in a late-1800s county history makes the claim that he lived in Orange County at the time and indeed served in the militia at Fort Montgomery. Another Gilbert Weeks (or the same) captained a vessel along the Hudson and served in Capt. Weisenfel's company under Col. Phillip Van Cortlandt. In 1822, a Gilbert Weeks of Peekskill filed a pension application claiming that he was this soldier; it was rejected. And Gilbert Weeks of Fishkill, husband to Phebe, made his will Dec. 13, 1824, naming wife and minor children Samuel, Jane Griffin, Susan, Abigail, John William and Gilbert. Could this or the pension applicant be the same man who married Phebe Southard way back in the 1760s? One final mystery, one final stone in the Fishkill churchyard: "Mistress Nancy Weeks/Born Feb. 26/1712/Died Aug 26/1778/Aged 66 years 6 mos An Honest Dame/a frugal wife/we greved Her much/when she left this Lyfe." Could this be the mother of one of the Gilberts? Congratulations to anyone who's managed to read through this. Any assistance or suggestions are welcome! -Jim Miller jm1982@gmail.com

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