This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sr3sr3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9737.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found a copy of Joseph N. Bell's army discharge papers at my parents house. It does list occupation upon entering the army as silver plater. Thanks for the good info! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
To Denise Jones and others : The GODFREY Library, with MANY Databases can be visited without charge for some of their databases. The Library itself is located in Middletown, CT.and was incorporated in 1947.......... The url is www.godfrey.org. .......... .I believe they 'partner' ,also, with www.familysearch.org Since this Library's location is adjacent-so to speak- to NYS as well as Long Island and the New England States--the Library is 'heavy' on these areas, Denise. I, also, have 1600 and 1700 ancestors from New Amsterdam and Long Island / New Haven Colony---who worked their way up into Westchester,then Duchess Co.,then on up the Hudson and Mohawk Valleys. Let me tell you of ONE of their very useful databases, for example, for very early NYS. researchers which I have mined and am still using extensively: About the late 1890's, the New York Geg. and Biog. Society hired a well-known researcher / author of early Westchester Co.when it was NOT a county but just called Westchester-William S.Pelletreau, to 'read' the old NY/ New Ansterdam original WILL-books which were where? Sorry, I do not know, but originally were in the New York [city] Surrogate's Office and at White Plains ,NY. I n these late1800-earlier 1900's this was the kind of really good-genealogical work that the NYGBS was famous for accomplishing. These books-the earliest over 200 years old when Mr.Pelletreau was hired, were not in good shape-especially the earliest ones. Those remnants-if possible-were copied as they appeared-and damaged- with some readable surnames and words. Then he continued ,chronologically, to EXCERPT all those early WILLS from New York to ,I think 1800. To realize the importance of this body of work--one must remember that because of the early Dutch, English, French, and Spanish SEA-TRADE and wars going on at this time around the Atlantic Ocean and up and down the east-coast of N.America-- where would all these people choose to go for legal business?To register WILLS, Property Transfers, etc. Often, either London or New Amsterdam / New York [city] were chosen. Holland less so-it appears. it amazes me, as I researched through 1660-1730,........the places people came from to Record their business in 'New York: Jamaica ,the Antilles , and all over the Caribbean Islands; up and down New Jersey and the Chesepeake; eastern Pennsylvania ; ;Long Island; Rhode Island; the lower Connecticut River; England and Holland. Obviously--ocean-going- business brought people here and it was convenient to also take care of other personal business at the same time. There were many inter-family-connections for me to find here in these WILL-extracts --by looking up the maiden- surnames of wives when I knew them and verifying places and locations which had not been clearly known--to give two examples.. On-site at Godfrey Library --in hard-copy--there are the ' 'BOSTON'Transcript' newspaper-genealogy columns [1890-1933 or so] and the famour CT. BARBOUR Collection. I live in CA., but have writteb ti Godfrey and arranged for Look-Ups from these most valuable collections. Although the GODFREY Library is NOT as well-known as NEHGS -to which I DO subscribe] or Ancestry.com [to which I do NOT subscribe on ethical grounds]--I find it very easy-to use and the best internet investment I have made. There are 4 Levels: I happened to select Level 3 of 4 levels and it is $80.per year. Level one may be 'no charge' but not sure as more may be accessed as a guest . Good luck, Charlotte J.Sheldon
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janiceLsutherland Surnames: LaDue Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/3396.3704.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: the Frank LaDue I have was born 28 Jun 1860 in Blacks Station, Yolo County, CA His father was from NY and his mother was from Indiana. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaeh1 Surnames: Rogers Wing Hatch Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/4492.4493/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dawn, I don't know that this will help any, but I noticed the names Wing and Hatch in your post. In particular the name Wing Rogers. There is a Wing-Hatch Quaker connection from Scituate and Marshfield in Sandwich, Barnstable, MA. The Wings of Barnstable County appear to have been Quakers . I believe it would be worth your time to check into it. Kaye Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hello Evidently I'm having another senior moment. I have as a source "Baptismal Record in comgined Poukeepsie-Rombout churdh records". I no longer can find this record. Will a kind person push me to where I can again find those records? Best Regards, Robert Ferguson
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Judith_Hamm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9710.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wish I could help. My Sagers moved north from Columbia County NY in the early 1790's to southern Quebec. I know that there were Sagers in Ontario as well as in Quebec, but I do not know what the connection might be. Have you checked the book Loyalist Lineages of Canada? You might find a Loyalist family of Ontario Sagers who came from the same area that your Sagers did. Good luck with this. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Steven, Look again at the old census record. I have found family born in NS which looks alot like US. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -------------- Original message -------------- From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: lalonderad > Surnames: Sager > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutche > ss/9710.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I have a Stevon (Steven, Stephen) Sager born about 1833 in Upper Canada. I > have an old census record that says his parents were born in the USA but I am > unable to find the names of his parents. He married Sarah Unknown about 1855, > probably in either Ontario County or Prince Edward County. I have hit a brick > wall but was wondering if this name means anything to you . Thanks > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like > to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond > on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lalonderad Surnames: Sager Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9710.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Stevon (Steven, Stephen) Sager born about 1833 in Upper Canada. I have an old census record that says his parents were born in the USA but I am unable to find the names of his parents. He married Sarah Unknown about 1855, probably in either Ontario County or Prince Edward County. I have hit a brick wall but was wondering if this name means anything to you . Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I could almost guarantee you that The school library has a complete set of year books In a message dated 7/26/2008 9:53:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, loreenwl@peoplepc.com writes: Does anyone on this list have access to Poughkeepsie high school year books from about the late 1930s to the early 1940s? I have some photos I would like to identify. I got these photos from someone I discovered doing genealogy. She is the widow of my father's cousin. She lived in Norwalk CT those years and remembered a family of her husband's relatives visiting from Poughkeepsie. The pictures were taken not long after WWII. One of the people in the photos was about the same age as she and her husband, she says. She can't remember anything about them except that they came from Poughkeepsie. Since her husband was b. in 1920 and she was b. in 1923, it occurred to me that the young woman in the photos could be in one of those yearbooks. I could email the pictures if someone were willing and able to do this for me. This is a family that has some long roots in Dutchess Co. but from several directions. Finding these persons by process of elimination could maybe be done, but then I keep finding new pieces of the family in Dutchess Co., lots of people and by now multiple generations. Loreen Wells ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)
I'm in Oregon and I am not going to be able to get there myself. It doesn't seem likely I could get the school to do that kind of looking for me, but maybe they would? Loreen Wells USH78@aol.com wrote: > > I could almost guarantee you that The school library has a complete set of > year books > > > In a message dated 7/26/2008 9:53:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > loreenwl@peoplepc.com writes: > > Does anyone on this list have access to Poughkeepsie high school year > books from about the late 1930s to the early 1940s? I have some photos I > would like to identify. I got these photos from someone I discovered > doing genealogy. She is the widow of my father's cousin. She lived in > Norwalk CT those years and remembered a family of her husband's > relatives visiting from Poughkeepsie. The pictures were taken not long > after WWII. One of the people in the photos was about the same age as > she and her husband, she says. She can't remember anything about them > except that they came from Poughkeepsie. Since her husband was b. in > 1920 and she was b. in 1923, it occurred to me that the young woman in > the photos could be in one of those yearbooks. I could email the > pictures if someone were willing and able to do this for me. > > This is a family that has some long roots in Dutchess Co. but from > several directions. Finding these persons by process of elimination > could maybe be done, but then I keep finding new pieces of the family in > Dutchess Co., lots of people and by now multiple generations. > > Loreen Wells > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Does anyone on this list have access to Poughkeepsie high school year books from about the late 1930s to the early 1940s? I have some photos I would like to identify. I got these photos from someone I discovered doing genealogy. She is the widow of my father's cousin. She lived in Norwalk CT those years and remembered a family of her husband's relatives visiting from Poughkeepsie. The pictures were taken not long after WWII. One of the people in the photos was about the same age as she and her husband, she says. She can't remember anything about them except that they came from Poughkeepsie. Since her husband was b. in 1920 and she was b. in 1923, it occurred to me that the young woman in the photos could be in one of those yearbooks. I could email the pictures if someone were willing and able to do this for me. This is a family that has some long roots in Dutchess Co. but from several directions. Finding these persons by process of elimination could maybe be done, but then I keep finding new pieces of the family in Dutchess Co., lots of people and by now multiple generations. Loreen Wells
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindatrout03 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/619.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello. I found my gggg grandmother's name - born abt 1850 (1848) Her Name was Mary Phelan. Just beginning my search to find where in Ireland my ancestor's came from. No one knows and I want to know. Thank you if you have any other info. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Mary Thanks, but it did not find them listed here. Fred > -----Original Message----- > From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Downes > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:06 AM > To: nydutche@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] NY marriages > > Fred, if the marriage took place in NYC you might be able to find it here: > > http://www.italiangen.org/NYCMarriage.stm > > That's the groom's index. There's also a bride's index: > http://www.italiangen.org/NYCBrides.stm > > Best, > Mary > > > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:48:24 -0400, Fred wrote: > > Thanks > > Well as I am in Virginia is their access to the index > > online. Most likely the marriage took place in New York > > City between June 10, 1882 and Dec 1883. Some other > > states have records like this online where you can do > > search on the name and locate the record to order it. > > > > Do you have to go thru every location in NY to search and > > do you know of any one that does lookups. > > > > thanks > > Fred > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche- > >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max Ward Sent: > >> Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:35 PM To: > >> nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] NY > >> marriages > >> > >> Such as it is, yes. The NYS archives is located at the > >> NYS Library in Albany. They have a statewide microfiche > >> index of births marriages, and deaths. Unfortunately, > >> although the state required it beginning in 1880, > >> > > you > >> won't see a lot of marriage records until about 1885-6, > >> because that's > >> > > when > >> most towns got around to doing it. You might get lucky > >> if your 82-84 marriage occurred in a town that was an > >> "early adopter" but it's pretty iffy. > >> > >> Sorry that the answer isn't more positive. > >> > >> Max > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche- > >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Thursday, > >> July 24, 2008 10:04 PM > >> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; nydutche@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [NYDUTCHE] NY marriages > >> > >> Is there a central location where someone can search > >> for a marriage record in NY State between 1882-1884?? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Fred > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > >> body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYDUTCHE- request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > >> body of the message > >> > >> __________ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __________ > >> > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> http://www.eset.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: annastyles1 Surnames: knapp edwards Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/5625.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could Sarah be Mary?? In 1850 Monroe county, OH I found a David Knapp age 57 born in NY living with wife Mary and among other children a Daughter Lavina age 19 (1831). They were dwelling number 193 in Union Township. Also in Union Township in 1850 dwelling number 238 was a Thomas and Elizabeth Edwards with a son named Thomas aged 24 (1826) Ten years later in 1860, Noble County (neighboring Monroe County) OH, Stock township there was a Thomas age 32 (1828) and Lavina Edwards age 28 (1832)with a son named John W. age 6. Is this the same David? Could Mary be a nickname for Sarah or two different wifes?? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Fred, if the marriage took place in NYC you might be able to find it here: http://www.italiangen.org/NYCMarriage.stm That's the groom's index. There's also a bride's index: http://www.italiangen.org/NYCBrides.stm Best, Mary On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:48:24 -0400, Fred wrote: > Thanks > Well as I am in Virginia is their access to the index > online. Most likely the marriage took place in New York > City between June 10, 1882 and Dec 1883. Some other > states have records like this online where you can do > search on the name and locate the record to order it. > > Do you have to go thru every location in NY to search and > do you know of any one that does lookups. > > thanks > Fred > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max Ward Sent: >> Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:35 PM To: >> nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] NY >> marriages >> >> Such as it is, yes. The NYS archives is located at the >> NYS Library in Albany. They have a statewide microfiche >> index of births marriages, and deaths. Unfortunately, >> although the state required it beginning in 1880, >> > you >> won't see a lot of marriage records until about 1885-6, >> because that's >> > when >> most towns got around to doing it. You might get lucky >> if your 82-84 marriage occurred in a town that was an >> "early adopter" but it's pretty iffy. >> >> Sorry that the answer isn't more positive. >> >> Max >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Thursday, >> July 24, 2008 10:04 PM >> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; nydutche@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NYDUTCHE] NY marriages >> >> Is there a central location where someone can search >> for a marriage record in NY State between 1882-1884?? >> >> Thanks >> Fred >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDUTCHE- request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> >> __________ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message
Thanks Well as I am in Virginia is their access to the index online. Most likely the marriage took place in New York City between June 10, 1882 and Dec 1883. Some other states have records like this online where you can do search on the name and locate the record to order it. Do you have to go thru every location in NY to search and do you know of any one that does lookups. thanks Fred > -----Original Message----- > From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Max Ward > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:35 PM > To: nydutche@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCHE] NY marriages > > Such as it is, yes. The NYS archives is located at the NYS Library in > Albany. They have a statewide microfiche index of births marriages, and > deaths. Unfortunately, although the state required it beginning in 1880, you > won't see a lot of marriage records until about 1885-6, because that's when > most towns got around to doing it. You might get lucky if your 82-84 > marriage occurred in a town that was an "early adopter" but it's pretty > iffy. > > Sorry that the answer isn't more positive. > > Max > > -----Original Message----- > From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche- > bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Fred > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 PM > To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; nydutche@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYDUTCHE] NY marriages > > Is there a central location where someone can search for a marriage record > in NY State between 1882-1884?? > > Thanks > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com
Such as it is, yes. The NYS archives is located at the NYS Library in Albany. They have a statewide microfiche index of births marriages, and deaths. Unfortunately, although the state required it beginning in 1880, you won't see a lot of marriage records until about 1885-6, because that's when most towns got around to doing it. You might get lucky if your 82-84 marriage occurred in a town that was an "early adopter" but it's pretty iffy. Sorry that the answer isn't more positive. Max -----Original Message----- From: nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydutche-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 PM To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; nydutche@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYDUTCHE] NY marriages Is there a central location where someone can search for a marriage record in NY State between 1882-1884?? Thanks Fred ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDUTCHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Is there a central location where someone can search for a marriage record in NY State between 1882-1884?? Thanks Fred
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CARLVANWAGENEN Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/6153.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Glennie Van Wagner m. Harvey Kortright (9895) (10850) ESTHER KORTRIGHT, b 10/25/1885, d 1925, buried Wappingers Rural Cemetery. (10851) JESSIE KORTRIGHT, b 11/4/1887, d 1905, buried Wappingers Rural Cemetery. (10852) FRANK KORTRIGHT, b 4/1/1890, d 1923, buried Wappingers Rural Cemetery. (10853) NOLIE KORTRIGHT, 1892-1895, buried Wappingers Rural Cemetery. (10854) HENRY KORTRIGHT, 1893-1893, buried Wappingers Rural Cemetery. (10855) GEORGE KORTRIGHT, 1896-1905, buried Wappingers Rural Cemetery. (10856) JOHN LEROY KORTRIGHT, nfd. (10857) PHOEBE KORTRIGHT, b ca1901 m. GEORGE V. HOLMES, b ca1900 NY. In 1930c at 49 Mill Street, Wappingers Falls, George age 30, machinist at Federal Bearing, Phoebe age 29, living with her parents (she was unknown prior to finding her in this census record). (10858) HAROLD KORTRIGHT, 1903-1972, buried Wappingers Rural Cemetery. In 1930c at 49 Mill Street, Wappingers Falls, age 26, unmarried, living with his parents. (10859) GLENNIE E. KORTRIGHT, 1905-1982, m ________ MCNITT, nfd, buried Wappingers Rural Cemetery. In 1930c at 49 Mill Street, Wappingers Falls, Glennie age 24, living with her parents At time of the mother's death on 1/15/1942, her obituary indicated that only three of her ten children had survived her. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cravin_wallace Surnames: Acker, Crump, Hawkins, Robinson, Colson?, Taper? Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.dutchess/9743/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My mother's full name is Ernestine Jennifer Washington (nee. Acker). Her father's name is Ernest Acker (surnames Acker, Crump) and her mother's maiden name was Jean Hawkins (surnames Hawkins, Robinson) These four surnames are all here in Baltimore, although they all didn't originate here. I was browsing around and came across Gino's and other inquiries about the Crumps of North Carolina. I've also included information on the Acker side of the family since that name has been prevalent with MY direct ancestry. I've included here some family history in case any of this sounds similar to anyone else's "family stories". Please note that unless I indicate otherwise, most of this information has been verified through court documents, land sale receipts, birth and death certificates, funeral obituaries and the 1930 Census. I will provide birth and death dates at the end of this thread unless it pertains to the information given. Well here goes! According to my grandfather Ernest Acker, his maternal grandfather, Robert Crump, was born in Albermarle, N.C. His parents were Solomon Crump and Ann Taper (According to my great-grandmother, either Ann or her mother was caucasian). I haven't had a chance to verify Solomon and Ann's dates and locations. My grandfather states that they were from Albermarle, N.C. They had at least two, possibly more children, Uncle Atts(?) (who had 6 children himself-we have pictures!) and Robert Crump, both born in Albermarle. I was also told that Solomon bootlegged corn liquor for a living. This is not surprising, since his son, Robert did the same thing. Robert Crump (aged 22) married Lillie Colson (aged 19) December 27, 1906 in Cottonville, Stanly County, N.C. and had two children, Vera Mae and Nathaniel Sr. Lillie seems to have disappeared early on. We don't know what happened to her, only that according to the 1930 census for Fallowfield, Washington County, Pennsylvania, he remarried at ! the ages of 36 (may be written incorrectly by the Enumerator of the document; won't know until I can verify it) and at 43 to Virginia, 24 years old. I will start to verify Lillie's whereabouts soon. During his early years, Robert owned land in Norwood, N.C. He owned a hotel, a house of ill-repute, and a gambling hall on this property. Eventually he got out of it and began working as a laboror. As a result, he traveled back and forth throughout the states of North and South Carolinas, Virginia, West Virginia (where my grandfather was born), and Pennsylvania. Vera Mae married John Henry Acker and had two sons. Her firstborn, Haywood L.Acker, died in infancy of diphtheria in Pennsylvania. Robert Crump eventually began working for Bethlehem Steel. According to the census for Pennsylvania, the name of the labor camp in which they lived was the Steam Railroad Laboror Camp. While there, John H. Acker was incarcerated at the state peneteniary for the murder of Bill Butler (convicted in 1937 or 1938). About 3 months afterwards, their labor camp was forcibly disbanded by the Klu Klux Klan and ran out of Pennsylvania. Apparently, the locals didn't like the drinking (provided by Robert, more than likely), loud noises, and partying that was going on late at night. Nathaniel fled to New Jersey. Robert took Vera Mae and her younger son, Ernest, and fled to Baltimore. All stayed at these locations until their deaths. Vera finalized her divorce from her husband September 9, 1943 and married John Stevenson very soon thereafter (he's orig. from S! outh Carolina). They met at the labor camp and he is listed 4 names under Nathaniel Crump's in the 1930 Census. Robert Crump worked for Sparrow's Point here in Baltimore, a subsidiary of Bethlehem Steel of Pennsylvania, until he retired. My grandfather, Ernest Acker, married Jean Hawkins on August 18, 1949. Five of their seven children, my mother being the oldest, are still living today (the youngest twin died in 1995, age 37, and a brother, several years later). Okay! Here are everybody's dates: Solomon Crump, Ann Taper, dates for both are unknown Robert Crump (b. 8/6/1884-d.8/1966)married Lillie Colson (b. 1887?-d.?), 2 children, Vera Mae Crump and Nathaniel Crump. Vera Mae Crump (b.3/16/1909-d.4/14/2002) married John Henry Acker. Had two children, the oldest dying of either diphtheria or dysentry (severe dehydration, vomiting, diahrea, fever, etc. maybe from these symptoms, someone can figure out what it was). Youngest is Ernest Acker (see below). She finalized her divorce (9/4/1943, Baltimore City) and remarried John Stevenson (b.4/10/1908-d.3/16/1976). No children. Nathaniel Crump Sr. (b.10/10/1911-d.3/8/1994) married Grace Hodges (b.12/17/1917-d.10/26/1974). Had 6 children, all still living in both New Jersey and in New York with children of their own. Ernest Acker, Vera's younger child (b.6/11/1931) was born in Hawksnest, Fayette County, West Virginia. The family did a LOT of migration at this time. locations included Charleston, W.Va., Dublin Va, North and South Carolinas, Virginia, etc. They went wherever work was before they settled again in Pennsylvania for a while. They fled to Baltimore in 1937, Ernest met my grandmother, Jean Hawkins (b.3/31/1932-d.3/24/2002)) and had seven children, five of whom are still alive today with their own children (the deceased twin-aged 37 had one daughter; the deceased brother had none). They married 8/18/1949 in Baltimore City. Their oldest child is my mother, Ernestine Jennifer Acker (b.11/21/1948). She married George Melvin Washington (5/20/1944) on December 27, 1966. I, Trina Lanell Washington, was born 10/28/1968. I have two children (aged 17 yrs old and 2yrs old) and two sisters. At the time of my great-grandmother Ma Vera's (or Mama Vera, we called her both) death, she had about 12 great-grandchildren and 11 GREAT-GREAT grandchildren! What can I say? My family just believes in having our children early and in numbers! I hope that this helps somewhat. This isn't even HALF of what I have. If you are interested in the other surnames of my mother's family or unmentioned siblings, PLEASE email me at either cravin_wallace@yahoo.com or at twashi2@hotmail.com and maybe we can swap notes. If ANYONE has ANY information on Solomon Crump, Ann Taper or Lillie Colson, DEFINITELY email me. I don't believe that any of our Crumps are descendents of slaves, although I may be wrong. I won't know until I can get more info on these three people and their parents and grandparents. In the meantime...Happy Hunting! FYI- it's stated that a certain famous singer, Stephanie Mills, is distantly related to our branch of the Crumps through Robert's brother Uncle Atts Crump of Albermarle, N.C. She is decended through one of his 6 children (remember! we have pictures of a few of them!). I had spoken with her briefly a few years ago, and she did also believe that we are all related. The New Jersey Crumps are going to try and verify this at that particular branch's next yearly family reunion. I'll post if I find out any more info. TTFN! (Ta-ta-for-now! for all of you tigger fans!) :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.